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Re: Japanese space shot |
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 14:48:25 -0700, "MosZibby" <APATHY@ATJ> wrote in message
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"Nellie Rumery" <slrnmr@adelphia.net> wrote in message
Why did the weatherman have to report the first manned Japanese space
shot? There was a little nip in the air
Semi sorta on topic.
Was talking to a neighbor--Marge is 83--and space flight
was brought up. She said she remembered when Sputnik
orbited. All the kids in the neighborhood went outside to
look at it. Then, just in case the Russians were looking, the
kids flipped it the finger.
losing is a *****, innit?
btw Beagle 2 (UK Mars probe) will hopefully touch down on Mars on Dec 25
2003. it's mission is to search for life. be a ***** if the Brits discover
life on Mars, huh, considering that NASA has lost most of its Mars probes?
and by 2015 China aims to have a man on the Moon and establish a moon base.
The Chinese intend launching a space station before that and by 2020 the EU
hopes to land a man on Mars.
I wonder if NASA can pull anything out of the hat to compete with these
space initiatives?
Next year we could see the first private company to put a 3 man spaceship
into space and win the X prize of $10 million. If SpaceShipOne is
successful, space tourism could become within the reach of the ordinary
person. You wouldn't need to pony up $20 million for a couple of days in the
ISS.
QUESTION: how much would you be prepared to spend to experience a couple of
hours in space orbiting our planet?
Demand for this would be phenomenal, I imagine. Realistically speaking a
price of about US$10 000 should be targeted.
But I'd love to experience walking on the moon, even if only for a few
hours, like the Apollo astronauts did.
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29 Dec 2003 11:25:55 AM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Mon, 29 Dec 2003 01:17:53 +0200, a stranger
called by some "No facts" <face.them@dot.com> came forth and told
this tale in alt.atheism
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 17:25:04 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
I'm proud of my home. Aren't you?
sure. but Americans are blindly patriotic. sickenly so.
so you say. According to some Americans, I'm practicly a traitor. We
do get all types here, you know.
But still, it flies.
no shuttle has been launched since Columbia disintegrated over Palestine,
Texas.
True. And after Challenger, we suspended flights until we knew what
went wrong there. We will fly again.
So, when is someone else lifting a reusable STS?
Now I'm chinese? How many decades was Martin Luther King held in
prison?
shot by an American white man.
That wasn't my question. How many decades did the government of the
US hold him in prison?
When was Jesse Jackson beaten to death by the FBI? Friend, I
spent much of my youth making damn sure South Africa was an
international pariah. It seems to have worked.
all that work and you still have no facts or insight into South Africa.
And you don't know squat about the US. Ever consider that we are
patriotic because we have a good thing going?
(Oh, I've been to to the RSA. Went to Ladysmith for the centennial of
the Siege. My Great-Grandfather fought there. Nice place.)
you don't know what it's like to live here and you never will.
And you know about the United States how, exactly? I might emigrate
someday.
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Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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30 Dec 2003 04:01:33 AM |
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On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 17:25:55 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
<sko0vv0bpjiagtnplf56bjd1jq99b9uof9@4ax.com>:
Lo, many moons past, on Mon, 29 Dec 2003 01:17:53 +0200, a stranger
called by some "No facts" <face.them@dot.com> came forth and told
this tale in alt.atheism
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 17:25:04 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
But still, it flies.
no shuttle has been launched since Columbia disintegrated over Palestine,
Texas.
True. And after Challenger, we suspended flights until we knew what
went wrong there. We will fly again.
that would be unwise.
the shuttle is past its expiry date.
So, when is someone else lifting a reusable STS?
I don't believe in the reusable model.
Now I'm chinese? How many decades was Martin Luther King held in
prison?
shot by an American white man.
That wasn't my question. How many decades did the government of the
US hold him in prison?
what crime did he commit?
Nelson Mandela was convicted of treason because he was plotting against the
state.
the ANC had started its armed wing and begun an armed struggle.
it is ridiculous to try to compare King with Mandela.
King never endorsed violence. Mandela did.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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30 Dec 2003 10:08:29 AM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Tue, 30 Dec 2003 12:01:33 +0200, a stranger
called by some "Mandela" <tutu@black.org> came forth and told this
tale in alt.atheism
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 17:25:55 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
<sko0vv0bpjiagtnplf56bjd1jq99b9uof9@4ax.com>:
True. And after Challenger, we suspended flights until we knew what
went wrong there. We will fly again.
that would be unwise.
the shuttle is past its expiry date.
Some of them are. Atlantis is still a capable bird, as is Discovery.
The only two losses came from an inadvisible launch due to political
pressure, and damage incured on launch.
So, when is someone else lifting a reusable STS?
I don't believe in the reusable model.
Why? Big dumb boosters cost more in the long run, and burning up
expensive hardware is a waste. It's like buying a new car when you
need to go anywhere!
That wasn't my question. How many decades did the government of the
US hold him in prison?
what crime did he commit?
Nelson Mandela was convicted of treason because he was plotting against the
state.
*snort* I've read about his trial.. no real defense, no chance for
testimony. It was a show trial, nothing more.
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was advocating the violation of laws in
several US states. He could have been charged with sedition (some
southern Congressmen called for that, BTW.)
the ANC had started its armed wing and begun an armed struggle.
Because the RSA was run by pig-headed bastards who had AWB uniforms in
their closets at home.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "Mandela" |
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31 Dec 2003 12:32:54 AM |
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On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 16:08:29 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
<ve83vvo8m8o068m8apioe47evhcdv1dhgt@4ax.com>:
Lo, many moons past, on Tue, 30 Dec 2003 12:01:33 +0200, a stranger
called by some "Mandela" <tutu@black.org> came forth and told this
tale in alt.atheism
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 17:25:55 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
<sko0vv0bpjiagtnplf56bjd1jq99b9uof9@4ax.com>:
True. And after Challenger, we suspended flights until we knew what
went wrong there. We will fly again.
that would be unwise.
the shuttle is past its expiry date.
Some of them are. Atlantis is still a capable bird, as is Discovery.
it'll be interesting if they ever fly again.
So, when is someone else lifting a reusable STS?
I don't believe in the reusable model.
Why? Big dumb boosters cost more in the long run, and burning up
expensive hardware is a waste. It's like buying a new car when you
need to go anywhere!
so design and build a new shuttle fleet then. the current fleet was only
supposed to last for 20 years.
That wasn't my question. How many decades did the government of the
US hold him in prison?
what crime did he commit?
Nelson Mandela was convicted of treason because he was plotting against the
state.
*snort* I've read about his trial.. no real defense, no chance for
testimony. It was a show trial, nothing more.
not at all. Mandela was guilty of plotting to violently overthrow the state.
He even admits this himself.
Mandela certainly was guilty as charged. Of course you can argue that the
state he was plotting to overthrow was illegitimate.
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was advocating the violation of laws in
several US states. He could have been charged with sedition (some
southern Congressmen called for that, BTW.)
Did he go so far as to advocate that the entire US government be violently
overthrown? Was he the head of the armed wing of an underground movement?
Was he caught in possession of explosives and other weapons?
the ANC had started its armed wing and begun an armed struggle.
Because the RSA was run by pig-headed bastards who had AWB uniforms in
their closets at home.
It doesn't matter. Mandela was guilty as charged. He was a terrorist.
incidentally, the United States still classes ANC cadres as terrorists and
does not admit them into the US.
exceptions are made for various people. Mandela being one of them.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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31 Dec 2003 09:32:14 AM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Wed, 31 Dec 2003 08:32:54 +0200, a stranger
called by some "Mandela" <a.terrorist@sa.com> came forth and told
this tale in alt.atheism
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 16:08:29 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
Some of them are. Atlantis is still a capable bird, as is Discovery.
it'll be interesting if they ever fly again.
Flights are already scheduled.
Why? Big dumb boosters cost more in the long run, and burning up
expensive hardware is a waste. It's like buying a new car when you
need to go anywhere!
so design and build a new shuttle fleet then. the current fleet was only
supposed to last for 20 years.
We are. Some models have even flown in-atmosphere test flights.
*snort* I've read about his trial.. no real defense, no chance for
testimony. It was a show trial, nothing more.
not at all. Mandela was guilty of plotting to violently overthrow the state.
He even admits this himself.
A state that richly deserved to be overthrown.
Mandela certainly was guilty as charged. Of course you can argue that the
state he was plotting to overthrow was illegitimate.
Which it was. and his trial was a sham. Only his stature prevented
him from getting the Biko treatment.
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was advocating the violation of laws in
several US states. He could have been charged with sedition (some
southern Congressmen called for that, BTW.)
Did he go so far as to advocate that the entire US government be violently
overthrown? Was he the head of the armed wing of an underground movement?
Was he caught in possession of explosives and other weapons?
Nope.. but the Black Muslims have advocated change by any means
necessary, and some of them have acquired arms. Of course, it's legal
here. And they mostly worked in states that were traditionally free.
Where in the RSA could a Martin Luther King gone to organize a
non-violent movement against apartheid?
the ANC had started its armed wing and begun an armed struggle.
Because the RSA was run by pig-headed bastards who had AWB uniforms in
their closets at home.
It doesn't matter. Mandela was guilty as charged. He was a terrorist.
incidentally, the United States still classes ANC cadres as terrorists and
does not admit them into the US.
exceptions are made for various people. Mandela being one of them.
Being President of a nation might have something to do with that.
Amazing how the moment aprtheid dropped, this terrorist was swept into
office by the majority.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "Doogie Berry" |
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31 Dec 2003 10:08:16 PM |
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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 15:32:14 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
<4oq5vv0btdps9m1iqtcpavkb5g0cgiu244@4ax.com>:
Lo, many moons past, on Wed, 31 Dec 2003 08:32:54 +0200, a stranger
called by some "Mandela" <a.terrorist@sa.com> came forth and told
this tale in alt.atheism
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 16:08:29 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
Some of them are. Atlantis is still a capable bird, as is Discovery.
it'll be interesting if they ever fly again.
Flights are already scheduled.
bon voyage.
*snort* I've read about his trial.. no real defense, no chance for
testimony. It was a show trial, nothing more.
not at all. Mandela was guilty of plotting to violently overthrow the state.
He even admits this himself.
A state that richly deserved to be overthrown.
well turns out that it wasn't overthrown by violence. that whole course they
embarked on was one dead end.
South Africans negotiated their future.
Mandela certainly was guilty as charged. Of course you can argue that the
state he was plotting to overthrow was illegitimate.
Which it was. and his trial was a sham. Only his stature prevented
him from getting the Biko treatment.
who knows what kept him alive? Perhaps it was God's will that he live?
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was advocating the violation of laws in
several US states. He could have been charged with sedition (some
southern Congressmen called for that, BTW.)
Did he go so far as to advocate that the entire US government be violently
overthrown? Was he the head of the armed wing of an underground movement?
Was he caught in possession of explosives and other weapons?
Nope.. but the Black Muslims have advocated change by any means
necessary, and some of them have acquired arms. Of course, it's legal
here.
Quite recently a youngster aged around 20 was jailed by your government for
setting up a web site which advocated terrorist activities. a black guy.
it's not legal in the US to plot to overthrow the US government by violent
means. Anyone caught inciting such activity would be dealt with very
harshly, especially in the current climate.
And they mostly worked in states that were traditionally free.
Where in the RSA could a Martin Luther King gone to organize a
non-violent movement against apartheid?
What are you a schmuck?
the ANC had started its armed wing and begun an armed struggle.
Because the RSA was run by pig-headed bastards who had AWB uniforms in
their closets at home.
It doesn't matter. Mandela was guilty as charged. He was a terrorist.
incidentally, the United States still classes ANC cadres as terrorists and
does not admit them into the US.
exceptions are made for various people. Mandela being one of them.
Being President of a nation might have something to do with that.
he's no longer president. quite recently the US blocked the entry of a
prominent South African who no longer enjoys diplomatic status.
Only ANC cadres (members of the armed wing) who enjoy diplomatic status are
allowed entry into the United States. All others are still classed by the US
as terrorists and as such are denied entry.
duh. I don't have to prove anything here. Your own government agrees with
me.
Amazing how the moment aprtheid dropped, this terrorist was swept into
office by the majority.
Mandela was probably the best South African president ever. well that's my
vote - that he was.
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| User: "Scab" |
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25 Dec 2003 11:08:45 PM |
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Man on the moon, parrot in training, pecked out
news:71jmuvsth0mi1hdth0fd908cpmj6ssam0l@4ax.com on Thu 25 Dec 2003
03:19:10p:
On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 05:55:26 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
<tkukuv0cveva6bmce8qqav9aj8vm2vlsbr@4ax.com>:
Lo, many moons past, on Wed, 24 Dec 2003 02:56:32 +0200, a stranger
called by some "Beagle 2" <mars.lander@mars.base> came forth and told
this tale in alt.atheism
losing is a *****, innit?
btw Beagle 2 (UK Mars probe) will hopefully touch down on Mars on Dec
25 2003. it's mission is to search for life. be a ***** if the Brits
discover life on Mars, huh, considering that NASA has lost most of
its Mars probes?
Most? Hardly.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3344693.stm
"Despite more than 30 missions launched to the Red Planet since the
1960s, only three landers have reached the Martian surface
successfully after a 400 million kilometre (250 million miles)
journey."
and by 2015 China aims to have a man on the Moon and establish a moon
base. The Chinese intend launching a space station before that and by
2020 the EU hopes to land a man on Mars.
I wonder if NASA can pull anything out of the hat to compete with
these space initiatives?
Other than the only reusable spacecraft in history?
i'm not a fan of the shuttle.
And the first manned mission to the Moon?
It would be nice if America was still _able_ to do that. But right
now, NASA is _incapable_ of sending anything (let alone a man / woman)
to the moon.
There are some who doubt that the Apollo missions actually did achieve
that goal. It's not as if we can obtain direct physical confirmation
of it now. We have no spacecraft in orbit around the moon sending back
pictures of the Apollo landing sites.
30+ years on and we have gone backwards from 1969. We should have had
a permanent base on the moon for over 2 decades already.
However, America has preferred to spend its money on making war.
This is a sweeping generalization. America doesn't start wars, it
finishes them. As for a moon base, what would be the point? Tourism?
Rock collecting?
Everybody remembers Columbus.. who was the second guy to reach
America?
the Indians got there first. Columbus was just the first white
European man to find it. In South Africa, we no longer view history
through a "whites only" perspective. It's quite a racist outlook you
have there.
It is possible that Vikings found it before Columbus and before them,
Eqyptians.
if you recall, Thor Heyerdahl proved that it could be done.
Next year we could see the first private company to put a 3 man
spaceship into space and win the X prize of $10 million. If
SpaceShipOne is successful, space tourism could become within the
reach of the ordinary person. You wouldn't need to pony up $20
million for a couple of days in the ISS.
One can only hope.
I am rooting for them. They amaze me. Just recently (December 2003) I
read an article about their exploits. They became the first private
company to break the sound barrier ever, without government
assistance.
All they are doing right now is spending money on R & D.
That's the thing with space - you need deep pockets and an unshakeable
faith that your efforts will be rewarded.
I believe that they will win the X-prize next year. I hope that they
will become the first private company to offer the public the
opportunity to experience earth orbits.
That's not the first goal, though. All they aim to do is reach space
(100km altitude), experience a few seconds of weightlessness at the
apogee and then descend.
I would imagine that they are just as ambitious as China, in that they
will be looking to reach the Moon as soon as they are able.
There's no way they could get the price cheap enough for the average Joe
to enjoy. Even for the super wealthy, the cost-return ratio would
probably not be enough to incite the interest it would take to keep the
company profitable.
QUESTION: how much would you be prepared to spend to experience a
couple of hours in space orbiting our planet?
Demand for this would be phenomenal, I imagine. Realistically
speaking a price of about US$10 000 should be targeted.
That's per kilogram, right? :)
Beagle 2 is valued at $62 million. it weighs 68kg. it has travelled
400 million kilometres, taking 6 months to do so.
i'm not sure how much it would cost to insert a 70kg person into orbit
for a few hours and then bring them down safely.
I know it doesn't cost $20 million. The Russians were able to charge
that because they had zero competition (NASA is not prepared to ferry
members of the public).
It most likely does not even cost $10 million. I would imagine that
Dennis Tito and Mark Shuttleworth's trips each cost the Russians
around $2 million.
And that was for a few days in orbit.
So I'm confident that a few orbits could be brought down rapidly to
below $100 000. From there it becomes feasible to target $10 000.
$10,000 would cover the first ten seconds of fuel it would take to get
them off the ground.
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| User: "Zepu" |
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27 Dec 2003 05:32:11 AM |
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"Scab" <s_bauer69OUT@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Douglas D. Anderson, parrot in training, pecked out
news:W93Hb.75120$JW3.18071@twister.nyroc.rr.com on Fri 26 Dec 2003
04:06:30p:
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote
Lo, many moons past, on Fri, 26 Dec 2003 05:08:45 GMT, a stranger
called by some Scab <s_bauer69OUT@hotmail.com> came forth and told
this tale in alt.atheism
This is a sweeping generalization. America doesn't start wars, it
finishes them. As for a moon base, what would be the point?
Tourism? Rock collecting?
There is one hell of a lot of science remain to be done on lunar
geology.
The few hundred pounds of rock we collected during the Apollo
missions literally changed our view on how the solar system formed,
the age of the planets, and the environment in deep space. And, as
with most science, the answers we got only opened more questions.
Although I am heavily indebted to science and technology for keeping
me employed, and all those Jewish rocket scientists <Jewish rocket
scientists standing in the audience as spotlights sweep them and the
audience roars in applause> and sundry Europeans, mathematicians,
scientists, American capitalists and industrialists <more applause and
spotlights as Lord Snow calls James Clerk Maxwell, Hertz, Newton,
Laplace, Fourier, Rutherford, Leon Redbone and... no wait...not
Leon... on stage to variously receive the prestigious awards,
dignities and other kudos befitting their esteemed contributions> on
the other hand, the argument could be raised that there are abundant
fields susceptible to scientific research of questionable value, for
example, "Do cockroaches feel amusement?" or "The effects of Jell-O
on vinyl combustion". The quest for knowledge needs to be tempered by
practical considerations of value. I for one, believe Steven Hawking
should be euthanized. He's obviously diseased, having spent too much
time in black holes, and other holes he has no business being in.
That guy's a freak, but an intelligent freak. I'd love to see Hawking
and Carl Sagan duke it out about the origins of the universe, black
holes, and the effects of Jell-O on cockroaches.
Sagan is dead.
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27 Dec 2003 12:29:18 PM |
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Zepu, parrot in training, pecked out
news:bsjqcq$dm1tf$1@ID-218654.news.uni-berlin.de on Sat 27 Dec 2003
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"Scab" <s_bauer69OUT@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Douglas D. Anderson, parrot in training, pecked out
news:W93Hb.75120$JW3.18071@twister.nyroc.rr.com on Fri 26 Dec 2003
04:06:30p:
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote
Lo, many moons past, on Fri, 26 Dec 2003 05:08:45 GMT, a stranger
called by some Scab <s_bauer69OUT@hotmail.com> came forth and
told this tale in alt.atheism
This is a sweeping generalization. America doesn't start wars,
it finishes them. As for a moon base, what would be the point?
Tourism? Rock collecting?
There is one hell of a lot of science remain to be done on lunar
geology.
The few hundred pounds of rock we collected during the Apollo
missions literally changed our view on how the solar system
formed, the age of the planets, and the environment in deep space.
And, as with most science, the answers we got only opened more
questions.
Although I am heavily indebted to science and technology for
keeping me employed, and all those Jewish rocket scientists <Jewish
rocket scientists standing in the audience as spotlights sweep them
and the audience roars in applause> and sundry Europeans,
mathematicians, scientists, American capitalists and industrialists
<more applause and spotlights as Lord Snow calls James Clerk
Maxwell, Hertz, Newton, Laplace, Fourier, Rutherford, Leon Redbone
and... no wait...not Leon... on stage to variously receive the
prestigious awards, dignities and other kudos befitting their
esteemed contributions> on the other hand, the argument could be
raised that there are abundant fields susceptible to scientific
research of questionable value, for example, "Do cockroaches feel
amusement?" or "The effects of Jell-O on vinyl combustion". The
quest for knowledge needs to be tempered by practical
considerations of value. I for one, believe Steven Hawking should
be euthanized. He's obviously diseased, having spent too much
time in black holes, and other holes he has no business being in.
That guy's a freak, but an intelligent freak. I'd love to see
Hawking and Carl Sagan duke it out about the origins of the universe,
black holes, and the effects of Jell-O on cockroaches.
Sagan is dead.
Gives Hawking a distinct advantage.
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Scab
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29 Dec 2003 09:18:57 AM |
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"Scab" <s_bauer69OUT@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Zepu, parrot in training, pecked out
news:bsmp14$e4l9i$2@ID-218654.news.uni-berlin.de on Sat 27 Dec 2003
08:21:48p:
"Scab" <s_bauer69OUT@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Ærchie, parrot in training, pecked out
news:jkuquv46ages64pp5a4n52881ou59gioqh@4ax.com on Sat 27 Dec 2003
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without a thought for posterity Scab plundered three dragon
hoards and indiscretely shared the experience with the world by
writing :
Ærchie, parrot in training, pecked out
news:85eouvk2ia2tponoh1kti2nfo2lttch9al@4ax.com on Fri 26 Dec 2003
06:35:06a:
without a thought for posterity Dr Tormento plundered three
dragon hoards and indiscretely shared the experience with the
world by writing :
Scab <s_bauer69OUT@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:Xns945CE1591E6BScab@140.99.99.130:
As for a moon base, what would be the point? Tourism?
Rock collecting?
You expect spaceheads to think about those questions?
Hell, they asked the Wright Bros the same question -
The Wright Brothers developed technology that had an immediate
impact on mankind. A moonbase would get a special on the Discovery
Channel and then be forgotten the next day.
Oh well, such is the attention span encouraged by modern education.
That "Immediate impact" took around 12 years - then the balsawood
and paper contraptions were used to drop hand grenades on other
people.
Come to think of it - that moonbase could do much the same thing.
The gap between the discovery of electro-manetic waves and radio
was even longer and its impact was minimal for many years.
When the Wright Bros flew that short distance at Kitty Hawk, some
people could see the practical implications right away. They could
see making planes that were faster and having the ability to carry
cargo or people. A moonbase would just sit there and be a moonbase,
and we'd be paying tens of thousands of dollars on a daily basis just
to keep a few scientists alive so they could gather more rock
samples.
Building a telescope array on the far side of the Moon would be a
giant step forward.
You need a base on the Moon to allow for construction of such an
array.
Setting up a telescope 240,000 miles closer to stars that are 500 million
light years away is not going to make any difference. We could still
gather more unobstructed light from Hubble because the moon has an
atmosphere, even though it's only 21% oxygen.
The Moon has no atmosphere at all.
The Far side of the Moon is shielded from earth's radio emissions and makes
a good spot for a radio telescope.
The Mother of all telescopes could be constructed on the Moon.
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news:bspgm5$f9708$6@ID-218654.news.uni-berlin.de on Mon 29 Dec 2003
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news:bsmp14$e4l9i$2@ID-218654.news.uni-berlin.de on Sat 27 Dec 2003
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"Scab" <s_bauer69OUT@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Ærchie, parrot in training, pecked out
news:jkuquv46ages64pp5a4n52881ou59gioqh@4ax.com on Sat 27 Dec 2003
05:31:51a:
without a thought for posterity Scab plundered three dragon
hoards and indiscretely shared the experience with the world by
writing :
Ærchie, parrot in training, pecked out
news:85eouvk2ia2tponoh1kti2nfo2lttch9al@4ax.com on Fri 26 Dec
2003 06:35:06a:
without a thought for posterity Dr Tormento plundered three
dragon hoards and indiscretely shared the experience with the
world by writing :
Scab <s_bauer69OUT@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:Xns945CE1591E6BScab@140.99.99.130:
As for a moon base, what would be the point? Tourism?
Rock collecting?
You expect spaceheads to think about those questions?
Hell, they asked the Wright Bros the same question -
The Wright Brothers developed technology that had an immediate
impact on mankind. A moonbase would get a special on the
Discovery Channel and then be forgotten the next day.
Oh well, such is the attention span encouraged by modern
education. That "Immediate impact" took around 12 years - then
the balsawood and paper contraptions were used to drop hand
grenades on other people.
Come to think of it - that moonbase could do much the same
thing.
The gap between the discovery of electro-manetic waves and radio
was even longer and its impact was minimal for many years.
When the Wright Bros flew that short distance at Kitty Hawk, some
people could see the practical implications right away. They
could see making planes that were faster and having the ability to
carry cargo or people. A moonbase would just sit there and be a
moonbase, and we'd be paying tens of thousands of dollars on a
daily basis just to keep a few scientists alive so they could
gather more rock samples.
Building a telescope array on the far side of the Moon would be a
giant step forward.
You need a base on the Moon to allow for construction of such an
array.
Setting up a telescope 240,000 miles closer to stars that are 500
million light years away is not going to make any difference. We
could still gather more unobstructed light from Hubble because the
moon has an atmosphere, even though it's only 21% oxygen.
The Moon has no atmosphere at all.
The Far side of the Moon is shielded from earth's radio emissions and
makes a good spot for a radio telescope.
The Mother of all telescopes could be constructed on the Moon.
Though it's much weaker than Earth's, with 21% oxygen, the moon does have
a light refracting atmosphere that would be more than enough to offset
the advantages of being 240,000 miles closer to what we're observing.
It's also a lot easier to fine-tune and repair the Hubble than it would
be for a moon-based telescope. A radio telescope would be more feasible
and less complicated to maintain. They could staff it with contestants
from the Survivor series and make up the cost difference with ad
revenues.
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news:jkuquv46ages64pp5a4n52881ou59gioqh@4ax.com on Sat 27 Dec 2003
05:31:51a:
without a thought for posterity Scab plundered three dragon
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writing :
Ærchie, parrot in training, pecked out
news:85eouvk2ia2tponoh1kti2nfo2lttch9al@4ax.com on Fri 26 Dec
2003 06:35:06a:
without a thought for posterity Dr Tormento plundered three
dragon hoards and indiscretely shared the experience with the
world by writing :
Scab <s_bauer69OUT@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:Xns945CE1591E6BScab@140.99.99.130:
As for a moon base, what would be the point? Tourism?
Rock collecting?
You expect spaceheads to think about those questions?
Hell, they asked the Wright Bros the same question -
The Wright Brothers developed technology that had an immediate
impact on mankind. A moonbase would get a special on the
Discovery Channel and then be forgotten the next day.
Oh well, such is the attention span encouraged by modern
education. That "Immediate impact" took around 12 years - then
the balsawood and paper contraptions were used to drop hand
grenades on other people.
Come to think of it - that moonbase could do much the same
thing.
The gap between the discovery of electro-manetic waves and radio
was even longer and its impact was minimal for many years.
When the Wright Bros flew that short distance at Kitty Hawk, some
people could see the practical implications right away. They
could see making planes that were faster and having the ability to
carry cargo or people. A moonbase would just sit there and be a
moonbase, and we'd be paying tens of thousands of dollars on a
daily basis just to keep a few scientists alive so they could
gather more rock samples.
Building a telescope array on the far side of the Moon would be a
giant step forward.
You need a base on the Moon to allow for construction of such an
array.
Setting up a telescope 240,000 miles closer to stars that are 500
million light years away is not going to make any difference. We
could still gather more unobstructed light from Hubble because the
moon has an atmosphere, even though it's only 21% oxygen.
The Moon has no atmosphere at all.
The Far side of the Moon is shielded from earth's radio emissions and
makes a good spot for a radio telescope.
The Mother of all telescopes could be constructed on the Moon.
Though it's much weaker than Earth's, with 21% oxygen, the moon does have
a light refracting atmosphere that would be more than enough to offset
the advantages of being 240,000 miles closer to what we're observing.
The atmosphere on earth is approximately 20% oxygen, 80% nitrogen.
The atmosphere on the Moon is non-existent.
It's also a lot easier to fine-tune and repair the Hubble than it would
be for a moon-based telescope.
If you had a permanently manned Moon base, that situation would be reversed.
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Zepu, parrot in training, pecked out
news:bstqal$18ehc$1@ID-218654.news.uni-berlin.de on Tue 30 Dec 2003
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08:18:57a:
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Zepu, parrot in training, pecked out
news:bsmp14$e4l9i$2@ID-218654.news.uni-berlin.de on Sat 27 Dec
2003 08:21:48p:
"Scab" <s_bauer69OUT@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Ærchie, parrot in training, pecked out
news:jkuquv46ages64pp5a4n52881ou59gioqh@4ax.com on Sat 27 Dec
2003 05:31:51a:
without a thought for posterity Scab plundered three dragon
hoards and indiscretely shared the experience with the world
by writing :
Ærchie, parrot in training, pecked out
news:85eouvk2ia2tponoh1kti2nfo2lttch9al@4ax.com on Fri 26 Dec
2003 06:35:06a:
without a thought for posterity Dr Tormento plundered
three dragon hoards and indiscretely shared the experience
with the world by writing :
Scab <s_bauer69OUT@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:Xns945CE1591E6BScab@140.99.99.130:
As for a moon base, what would be the point? Tourism?
Rock collecting?
You expect spaceheads to think about those questions?
Hell, they asked the Wright Bros the same question -
The Wright Brothers developed technology that had an
immediate impact on mankind. A moonbase would get a special
on the Discovery Channel and then be forgotten the next day.
Oh well, such is the attention span encouraged by modern
education. That "Immediate impact" took around 12 years -
then the balsawood and paper contraptions were used to drop
hand grenades on other people.
Come to think of it - that moonbase could do much the same
thing.
The gap between the discovery of electro-manetic waves and
radio was even longer and its impact was minimal for many
years.
When the Wright Bros flew that short distance at Kitty Hawk,
some people could see the practical implications right away.
They could see making planes that were faster and having the
ability to carry cargo or people. A moonbase would just sit
there and be a moonbase, and we'd be paying tens of thousands
of dollars on a daily basis just to keep a few scientists alive
so they could gather more rock samples.
Building a telescope array on the far side of the Moon would be
a giant step forward.
You need a base on the Moon to allow for construction of such an
array.
Setting up a telescope 240,000 miles closer to stars that are 500
million light years away is not going to make any difference. We
could still gather more unobstructed light from Hubble because the
moon has an atmosphere, even though it's only 21% oxygen.
The Moon has no atmosphere at all.
The Far side of the Moon is shielded from earth's radio emissions
and makes a good spot for a radio telescope.
The Mother of all telescopes could be constructed on the Moon.
Though it's much weaker than Earth's, with 21% oxygen, the moon does
have a light refracting atmosphere that would be more than enough to
offset the advantages of being 240,000 miles closer to what we're
observing.
The atmosphere on earth is approximately 20% oxygen, 80% nitrogen.
The atmosphere on the Moon is non-existent.
The space just above the moon's surface is not a total vacuum. The Apollo
program identified helium and argon atoms in the atmosphere, and Earth-
based observations added sodium and potassium ions to the list about six
years ago. The sodium is thought to be from the regolith, or surface
layer.
It's also a lot easier to fine-tune and repair the Hubble than it
would be for a moon-based telescope.
If you had a permanently manned Moon base, that situation would be
reversed.
Domino's doesn't deliver to the moon.
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Moon base, parrot in training, pecked out
news:qhppuvof79qnvhtketqq609484299clpga@4ax.com on Fri 26 Dec 2003
07:05:58p:
On 26 Dec 2003 13:12:23 GMT, Dr Tormento <reply@togroup.com> wrote in
message <Xns945D53A54FE4Arforschrcncom@199.184.165.239>:
Scab <s_bauer69OUT@hotmail.com> wrote in
As for a moon base, what would be the point? Tourism?
Rock collecting?
it is necessary to first construct a moon base before attempting a
manned mission to Mars.
any manned mission to Mars would need to construct a base there.
considering that it takes 6 months to reach Mars, spending a few hours
on the surface and then coming back would be an enormous waste of
money.
we need to establish a permanently manned Moon base first.
One or two manned missions to Mars might be desirable but anything beyond
that would be tourism. Who the hell cares about Mars?
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27 Dec 2003 06:11:06 AM |
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Scab <s_bauer69OUT@hotmail.com> wrote in
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Moon base, parrot in training, pecked out
news:qhppuvof79qnvhtketqq609484299clpga@4ax.com on Fri 26 Dec 2003
07:05:58p:
On 26 Dec 2003 13:12:23 GMT, Dr Tormento <reply@togroup.com> wrote in
message <Xns945D53A54FE4Arforschrcncom@199.184.165.239>:
Scab <s_bauer69OUT@hotmail.com> wrote in
As for a moon base, what would be the point? Tourism?
Rock collecting?
it is necessary to first construct a moon base before attempting a
manned mission to Mars.
any manned mission to Mars would need to construct a base there.
considering that it takes 6 months to reach Mars, spending a few
hours on the surface and then coming back would be an enormous waste
of money.
we need to establish a permanently manned Moon base first.
One or two manned missions to Mars might be desirable but anything
beyond that would be tourism. Who the hell cares about Mars?
That's typical of spaceheads. Ask them "What's the point of a moon base?'
and they come back with 'To do more elaborate pointless things.' Those
propellers spinning on their beanies must get them confused.
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27 Dec 2003 06:18:45 AM |
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Scab <s_bauer69OUT@hotmail.com> wrote in
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Moon base, parrot in training, pecked out
news:qhppuvof79qnvhtketqq609484299clpga@4ax.com on Fri 26 Dec 2003
07:05:58p:
On 26 Dec 2003 13:12:23 GMT, Dr Tormento <reply@togroup.com> wrote in
message <Xns945D53A54FE4Arforschrcncom@199.184.165.239>:
Scab <s_bauer69OUT@hotmail.com> wrote in
As for a moon base, what would be the point? Tourism?
Rock collecting?
it is necessary to first construct a moon base before attempting a
manned mission to Mars.
any manned mission to Mars would need to construct a base there.
considering that it takes 6 months to reach Mars, spending a few
hours on the surface and then coming back would be an enormous waste
of money.
we need to establish a permanently manned Moon base first.
One or two manned missions to Mars might be desirable but anything
beyond that would be tourism. Who the hell cares about Mars?
why don't you care about Mars?
That's typical of spaceheads. Ask them "What's the point of a moon
base?'
and they come back with 'To do more elaborate pointless things.' Those
propellers spinning on their beanies must get them confused.
So you don't want to get off this rock and explore?
Why do children explore? Why do people explore?
Answer those questions and you will know why. I cannot explain curiosity to
you if you have none.
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"Zepu" <zepu@mailinator.com> wrote in
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So you don't want to get off this rock and explore?
Not for $500 billion I don't.
I cannot explain
curiosity to you if you have none.
I cannot explain common sense to you if you have none.
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27 Dec 2003 09:29:46 PM |
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On 27 Dec 2003 14:39:32 GMT, Dr Tormento <reply@togroup.com> wrote in
message <Xns945E626B6F241rforschrcncom@199.184.165.239>:
"Zepu" <zepu@mailinator.com> wrote in
news:bsjt3s$d19lo$1@ID-218654.news.uni-berlin.de:
So you don't want to get off this rock and explore?
Not for $500 billion I don't.
no one is offering you even one cent.
I cannot explain curiosity to you if you have none.
I cannot explain common sense to you if you have none.
stay on yer couch and watch soap operas. see if anyone cares.
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On 27 Dec 2003 14:39:32 GMT, Dr Tormento <reply@togroup.com> wrote in
message <Xns945E626B6F241rforschrcncom@199.184.165.239>:
"Zepu" <zepu@mailinator.com> wrote in
news:bsjt3s$d19lo$1@ID-218654.news.uni-berlin.de:
So you don't want to get off this rock and explore?
Not for $500 billion I don't.
no one is offering you even one cent.
I was referring to the cost you stupid propellerhead.
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Zepu, parrot in training, pecked out
news:bsjt3s$d19lo$1@ID-218654.news.uni-berlin.de on Sat 27 Dec 2003
05:18:45a:
"Dr Tormento" <reply@togroup.com> wrote in message
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Scab <s_bauer69OUT@hotmail.com> wrote in
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Moon base, parrot in training, pecked out
news:qhppuvof79qnvhtketqq609484299clpga@4ax.com on Fri 26 Dec 2003
07:05:58p:
On 26 Dec 2003 13:12:23 GMT, Dr Tormento <reply@togroup.com> wrote
in message <Xns945D53A54FE4Arforschrcncom@199.184.165.239>:
Scab <s_bauer69OUT@hotmail.com> wrote in
As for a moon base, what would be the point? Tourism?
Rock collecting?
it is necessary to first construct a moon base before attempting a
manned mission to Mars.
any manned mission to Mars would need to construct a base there.
considering that it takes 6 months to reach Mars, spending a few
hours on the surface and then coming back would be an enormous
waste of money.
we need to establish a permanently manned Moon base first.
One or two manned missions to Mars might be desirable but anything
beyond that would be tourism. Who the hell cares about Mars?
why don't you care about Mars?
Red rocks, red sand and no oxygen. What kind of vacation is that?
That's typical of spaceheads. Ask them "What's the point of a moon
base?'
and they come back with 'To do more elaborate pointless things.'
Those propellers spinning on their beanies must get them confused.
So you don't want to get off this rock and explore?
How many countries have you been to?
Why do children explore? Why do people explore?
Because they're curious about the unknown. We already know that Mars is
red rock and the moon is grey rock.
Answer those questions and you will know why. I cannot explain
curiosity to you if you have none.
If there were a colony of defenseless 18 year old women found on Mars,
I'd be curious.
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27 Dec 2003 09:18:53 PM |
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Zepu, parrot in training, pecked out
news:bsjt3s$d19lo$1@ID-218654.news.uni-berlin.de on Sat 27 Dec 2003
05:18:45a:
"Dr Tormento" <reply@togroup.com> wrote in message
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Scab <s_bauer69OUT@hotmail.com> wrote in
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Moon base, parrot in training, pecked out
news:qhppuvof79qnvhtketqq609484299clpga@4ax.com on Fri 26 Dec 2003
07:05:58p:
On 26 Dec 2003 13:12:23 GMT, Dr Tormento <reply@togroup.com> wrote
in message <Xns945D53A54FE4Arforschrcncom@199.184.165.239>:
Scab <s_bauer69OUT@hotmail.com> wrote in
As for a moon base, what would be the point? Tourism?
Rock collecting?
it is necessary to first construct a moon base before attempting a
manned mission to Mars.
any manned mission to Mars would need to construct a base there.
considering that it takes 6 months to reach Mars, spending a few
hours on the surface and then coming back would be an enormous
waste of money.
we need to establish a permanently manned Moon base first.
One or two manned missions to Mars might be desirable but anything
beyond that would be tourism. Who the hell cares about Mars?
why don't you care about Mars?
Red rocks, red sand and no oxygen. What kind of vacation is that?
You represent the lowest common denominator.
That's typical of spaceheads. Ask them "What's the point of a moon
base?'
and they come back with 'To do more elaborate pointless things.'
Those propellers spinning on their beanies must get them confused.
So you don't want to get off this rock and explore?
How many countries have you been to?
I'd rather go to the Moon than London.
Why do children explore? Why do people explore?
Because they're curious about the unknown. We already know that Mars is
red rock and the moon is grey rock.
If that is the extent of your curiosity, then I sincerely pity you.
Answer those questions and you will know why. I cannot explain
curiosity to you if you have none.
If there were a colony of defenseless 18 year old women found on Mars,
I'd be curious.
So what you're saying is that you're a homosexual weakling?
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news:bsmp0t$e4l9i$1@ID-218654.news.uni-berlin.de on Sat 27 Dec 2003
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news:bsjt3s$d19lo$1@ID-218654.news.uni-berlin.de on Sat 27 Dec 2003
05:18:45a:
"Dr Tormento" <reply@togroup.com> wrote in message
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news:qhppuvof79qnvhtketqq609484299clpga@4ax.com on Fri 26 Dec
2003 07:05:58p:
On 26 Dec 2003 13:12:23 GMT, Dr Tormento <reply@togroup.com>
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Scab <s_bauer69OUT@hotmail.com> wrote in
As for a moon base, what would be the point? Tourism?
Rock collecting?
it is necessary to first construct a moon base before
attempting a manned mission to Mars.
any manned mission to Mars would need to construct a base
there. considering that it takes 6 months to reach Mars,
spending a few hours on the surface and then coming back would
be an enormous waste of money.
we need to establish a permanently manned Moon base first.
One or two manned missions to Mars might be desirable but
anything beyond that would be tourism. Who the hell cares about
Mars?
why don't you care about Mars?
Red rocks, red sand and no oxygen. What kind of vacation is that?
You represent the lowest common denominator.
Are you trying to start a Mars fan club?
That's typical of spaceheads. Ask them "What's the point of a
moon
base?'
and they come back with 'To do more elaborate pointless things.'
Those propellers spinning on their beanies must get them confused.
So you don't want to get off this rock and explore?
How many countries have you been to?
I'd rather go to the Moon than London.
You'd stand a better chance of finding intelligent life on the moon, but
England has McDonald's.
Why do children explore? Why do people explore?
Because they're curious about the unknown. We already know that Mars
is red rock and the moon is grey rock.
If that is the extent of your curiosity, then I sincerely pity you.
I'd much rather explore the Himalayas, Africa, or the bar girls in
Bangkok.
Answer those questions and you will know why. I cannot explain
curiosity to you if you have none.
If there were a colony of defenseless 18 year old women found on
Mars, I'd be curious.
So what you're saying is that you're a homosexual weakling?
My bad. I thought you were crossposting _to_ the recovery groups.
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29 Dec 2003 07:34:15 AM |
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"Scab" <s_bauer69OUT@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Zepu, parrot in training, pecked out
news:bsmp0t$e4l9i$1@ID-218654.news.uni-berlin.de on Sat 27 Dec 2003
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news:bsjt3s$d19lo$1@ID-218654.news.uni-berlin.de on Sat 27 Dec 2003
05:18:45a:
"Dr Tormento" <reply@togroup.com> wrote in message
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Scab <s_bauer69OUT@hotmail.com> wrote in
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Moon base, parrot in training, pecked out
news:qhppuvof79qnvhtketqq609484299clpga@4ax.com on Fri 26 Dec
2003 07:05:58p:
On 26 Dec 2003 13:12:23 GMT, Dr Tormento <reply@togroup.com>
wrote in message
<Xns945D53A54FE4Arforschrcncom@199.184.165.239>:
Scab <s_bauer69OUT@hotmail.com> wrote in
As for a moon base, what would be the point? Tourism?
Rock collecting?
it is necessary to first construct a moon base before
attempting a manned mission to Mars.
any manned mission to Mars would need to construct a base
there. considering that it takes 6 months to reach Mars,
spending a few hours on the surface and then coming back would
be an enormous waste of money.
we need to establish a permanently manned Moon base first.
One or two manned missions to Mars might be desirable but
anything beyond that would be tourism. Who the hell cares about
Mars?
why don't you care about Mars?
Red rocks, red sand and no oxygen. What kind of vacation is that?
You represent the lowest common denominator.
Are you trying to start a Mars fan club?
What do you mean?
That's typical of spaceheads. Ask them "What's the point of a
moon
base?'
and they come back with 'To do more elaborate pointless things.'
Those propellers spinning on their beanies must get them confused.
So you don't want to get off this rock and explore?
How many countries have you been to?
I'd rather go to the Moon than London.
You'd stand a better chance of finding intelligent life on the moon, but
England has McDonald's.
I would imagine that someone such as yourself makes holiday trips based on
whether or not there is a MacDonald's.
Why do children explore? Why do people explore?
Because they're curious about the unknown. We already know that Mars
is red rock and the moon is grey rock.
If that is the extent of your curiosity, then I sincerely pity you.
I'd much rather explore the Himalayas, Africa, or the bar girls in
Bangkok.
Bangkok is an experiment in HIV. They're trying to see how many gullible
Americans they can give it to before their symptoms become too obvious.
Answer those questions and you will know why. I cannot explain
curiosity to you if you have none.
If there were a colony of defenseless 18 year old women found on
Mars, I'd be curious.
So what you're saying is that you're a homosexual weakling?
My bad. I thought you were crossposting _to_ the recovery groups.
This thread is being sent all over. I'm just hitting reply.
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29 Dec 2003 11:30:52 PM |
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Zepu, parrot in training, pecked out
news:bspglh$f9708$1@ID-218654.news.uni-berlin.de on Mon 29 Dec 2003
06:34:15a:
"Scab" <s_bauer69OUT@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Zepu, parrot in training, pecked out
news:bsmp0t$e4l9i$1@ID-218654.news.uni-berlin.de on Sat 27 Dec 2003
08:18:53p:
"Scab" <s_bauer69OUT@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Zepu, parrot in training, pecked out
news:bsjt3s$d19lo$1@ID-218654.news.uni-berlin.de on Sat 27 Dec
2003 05:18:45a:
"Dr Tormento" <reply@togroup.com> wrote in message
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Scab <s_bauer69OUT@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:Xns945DF164079BEScab@140.99.99.130:
Moon base, parrot in training, pecked out
news:qhppuvof79qnvhtketqq609484299clpga@4ax.com on Fri 26 Dec
2003 07:05:58p:
On 26 Dec 2003 13:12:23 GMT, Dr Tormento <reply@togroup.com>
wrote in message
<Xns945D53A54FE4Arforschrcncom@199.184.165.239>:
Scab <s_bauer69OUT@hotmail.com> wrote in
As for a moon base, what would be the point? Tourism?
Rock collecting?
it is necessary to first construct a moon base before
attempting a manned mission to Mars.
any manned mission to Mars would need to construct a base
there. considering that it takes 6 months to reach Mars,
spending a few hours on the surface and then coming back
would be an enormous waste of money.
we need to establish a permanently manned Moon base first.
One or two manned missions to Mars might be desirable but
anything beyond that would be tourism. Who the hell cares
about Mars?
why don't you care about Mars?
Red rocks, red sand and no oxygen. What kind of vacation is that?
You represent the lowest common denominator.
Are you trying to start a Mars fan club?
What do you mean?
People in general could care less about Mars.
That's typical of spaceheads. Ask them "What's the point of a
moon
base?'
and they come back with 'To do more elaborate pointless
things.' Those propellers spinning on their beanies must get
them confused.
So you don't want to get off this rock and explore?
How many countries have you been to?
I'd rather go to the Moon than London.
You'd stand a better chance of finding intelligent life on the moon,
but England has McDonald's.
I would imagine that someone such as yourself makes holiday trips
based on whether or not there is a MacDonald's.
I'm most likely going to travel to places that have a McDonald's mainly
because I don't vacation in third world countries.
Why do children explore? Why do people explore?
Because they're curious about the unknown. We already know that
Mars is red rock and the moon is grey rock.
If that is the extent of your curiosity, then I sincerely pity you.
I'd much rather explore the Himalayas, Africa, or the bar girls in
Bangkok.
Bangkok is an experiment in HIV. They're trying to see how many
gullible Americans they can give it to before their symptoms become
too obvious.
AIDS is everywhere these days. Anyone who doesn't use protection might
as well play Russian Roulette.
Answer those questions and you will know why. I cannot explain
curiosity to you if you have none.
If there were a colony of defenseless 18 year old women found on
Mars, I'd be curious.
So what you're saying is that you're a homosexual weakling?
My bad. I thought you were crossposting _to_ the recovery groups.
This thread is being sent all over. I'm just hitting reply.
What are you recovering from?
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| User: "Zepu" |
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30 Dec 2003 04:36:49 AM |
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"Scab" <s_bauer69OUT@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Zepu, parrot in training, pecked out
news:bspglh$f9708$1@ID-218654.news.uni-berlin.de on Mon 29 Dec 2003
06:34:15a:
Are you trying to start a Mars fan club?
What do you mean?
People in general could care less about Mars.
I'm sure.
I'd much rather explore the Himalayas, Africa, or the bar girls in
Bangkok.
Bangkok is an experiment in HIV. They're trying to see how many
gullible Americans they can give it to before their symptoms become
too obvious.
AIDS is everywhere these days. Anyone who doesn't use protection might
as well play Russian Roulette.
If I knew the person had HIV / AIDS, I wouldn't fornicate with them under
any circumstances.
What are you recovering from?
I'm not sick.
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| User: "Scab" |
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02 Jan 2004 01:55:22 AM |
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Zepu, parrot in training, pecked out
news:bssrfk$15cge$1@ID-218654.news.uni-berlin.de on Tue 30 Dec 2003
03:36:49a:
"Scab" <s_bauer69OUT@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Zepu, parrot in training, pecked out
news:bspglh$f9708$1@ID-218654.news.uni-berlin.de on Mon 29 Dec 2003
06:34:15a:
Are you trying to start a Mars fan club?
What do you mean?
People in general could care less about Mars.
I'm sure.
Should that be understood in English or Valley Girl?
I'd much rather explore the Himalayas, Africa, or the bar girls in
Bangkok.
Bangkok is an experiment in HIV. They're trying to see how many
gullible Americans they can give it to before their symptoms become
too obvious.
AIDS is everywhere these days. Anyone who doesn't use protection
might as well play Russian Roulette.
If I knew the person had HIV / AIDS, I wouldn't fornicate with them
under any circumstances.
They need to set up little clinics at nightclubs or have drive-thru AIDS
tests so we could revert back to the care-free sex of the seventies.
What are you recovering from?
I'm not sick.
So you haven't even completed the first step.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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29 Dec 2003 11:27:51 AM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Mon, 29 Dec 2003 05:34:30 GMT, a stranger
called by some Scab <s_bauer69OUT@hotmail.com> came forth and told
this tale in alt.atheism
Zepu, parrot in training, pecked out
news:bsmp0t$e4l9i$1@ID-218654.news.uni-berlin.de on Sat 27 Dec 2003
08:18:53p:
You represent the lowest common denominator.
Are you trying to start a Mars fan club?
Too late.
http://www.marssociety.org/
I'd much rather explore the Himalayas, Africa, or the bar girls in
Bangkok.
I've been to Bangkok. It's not worth the trip.
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Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "Scab" |
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29 Dec 2003 11:30:28 PM |
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Douglas Berry, parrot in training, pecked out
news:bvo0vv0bve0serkcqqkmbbnb5b2ji1ho7u@4ax.com on Mon 29 Dec 2003
10:27:51a:
Lo, many moons past, on Mon, 29 Dec 2003 05:34:30 GMT, a stranger
called by some Scab <s_bauer69OUT@hotmail.com> came forth and told
this tale in alt.atheism
Zepu, parrot in training, pecked out
news:bsmp0t$e4l9i$1@ID-218654.news.uni-berlin.de on Sat 27 Dec 2003
08:18:53p:
You represent the lowest common denominator.
Are you trying to start a Mars fan club?
Too late.
http://www.marssociety.org/
They have a lifetime membership for $1,000. Makes you wonder how many
have actually paid it.
I'd much rather explore the Himalayas, Africa, or the bar girls in
Bangkok.
I've been to Bangkok. It's not worth the trip.
My buddy in the Navy told me some spinning basket stories that peaked my
curiosity.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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27 Dec 2003 09:27:52 PM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Sat, 27 Dec 2003 18:51:09 GMT, a stranger
called by some Scab <s_bauer69OUT@hotmail.com> came forth and told
this tale in alt.atheism
Zepu, parrot in training, pecked out
news:bsjt3s$d19lo$1@ID-218654.news.uni-berlin.de on Sat 27 Dec 2003
05:18:45a:
why don't you care about Mars?
Red rocks, red sand and no oxygen. What kind of vacation is that?
Shows what you know. What do you think makes the planet red? Oxides!
Mars is rusted. It's possible to ext | | | | | | |
