On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 22:26:54 GMT, Xaonon <xaonon@hotpop.com> wrote in
message <slrnbuum5d.2np.xaonon@xaonon.local>:

Ned i bach <bsmp1a$e4l9i$3@ID-218654.news.uni-berlin.de>, Zepu
<zepu@mailinator.com> teithant i thiw hin:

"Xaonon" <xaonon@hotpop.com> wrote in message
news:slrnburs3p.ut4.xaonon@xaonon.local...

Ned i bach <q4lpuvspqm1krqg67vl0con5f7lhfeu3uf@4ax.com>, Hindsight is
20/20 <all.knowing@the.future.com> teithant i thiw hin:

there is a contingent of people out there who believe the Apollo
missions were faked.

There is a contingent of people who believe any damn thing you can
imagine. Who cares what the lunatic fringe thinks? They aren't
important.

It would be quite funny to discover that they were indeed faked.

All the more reason to go back to the moon and establish up a permanent
base, visible from Earth. That'd shut them up but good.

that's the thing, it is not possible to discern the Apollo landing sites
from earth.

Who cares what the lunatic fringe thinks?

Ned i bach <71jmuvsth0mi1hdth0fd908cpmj6ssam0l@4ax.com>, Man on the
moon <around@the.sun.one.more.time> teithant i thiw hin:

On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 05:55:26 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
<tkukuv0cveva6bmce8qqav9aj8vm2vlsbr@4ax.com>:

And the first manned mission to the Moon?

It would be nice if America was still _able_ to do that. But right
now, NASA is _incapable_ of sending anything (let alone a man /
woman) to the moon.

There are some who doubt that the Apollo missions actually did
achieve that goal. It's not as if we can obtain direct physical
confirmation of it now.

This is incorrect. The previous missions left more than lander stubs
and footprints on the moon; they also left arrays of corner-cube
retroreflectors, off of which Earth-based lasers can be bounced. The
speed with which the moon is receding from us is routinely measured in
this manner.

30+ years on and we have gone backwards from 1969. We should have had
a permanent base on the moon for over 2 decades already.

However, America has preferred to spend its money on making war.

Ugh, ain't that the truth. In the afterword to" 2001", Arthur C.
Clarke wrote:

-> ... By 2001, it seemed quite reasonable that there would be giant
-> space-stations in orbit round the Earth and---a little
later---manned -> expeditions to the planets.
->
-> In an ideal world, that would have been possible: the Vietnam War
would -> have paid for everything that Stanley Kubrick showed on the
Cinerama -> screen. Now we realize that it will take a little longer.

And twenty years later, nothing has changed. To me, the best argument
for privatizing space travel by far is what the government has done
with it so far---or more precisely, what it *hasn't* done.

QUESTION: how much would you be prepared to spend to experience a couple of
hours in space orbiting our planet?

Demand for this would be phenomenal, I imagine. Realistically speaking a
price of about US$10 000 should be targeted.

That's per kilogram, right? :)

"Beagle 2" <mars.lander@mars.base> wrote in

But I'd love to experience walking on the moon, even if only for a few
hours, like the Apollo astronauts did.

Don't be a ***** like them. Take off the suit and get a tan.

On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 02:56:32 +0200, "Beagle 2" <mars.lander@mars.base>
wrote in alt.tasteless.jokes:

On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 14:48:25 -0700, "MosZibby" <APATHY@ATJ> wrote in message
<vuhe2mbrjlnn51@corp.supernews.com>:

"Nellie Rumery" <slrnmr@adelphia.net> wrote in message

Why did the weatherman have to report the first manned Japanese space

shot? There was a little nip in the air
Semi sorta on topic.
Was talking to a neighbor--Marge is 83--and space flight
was brought up. She said she remembered when Sputnik
orbited. All the kids in the neighborhood went outside to
look at it. Then, just in case the Russians were looking, the
kids flipped it the finger.

losing is a *****, innit?
btw Beagle 2 (UK Mars probe) will hopefully touch down on Mars on Dec 25
2003. it's mission is to search for life. be a ***** if the Brits discover
life on Mars, huh, considering that NASA has lost most of its Mars probes?

OOPS!
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/space/12/26/mars.missions.ap/index.html

On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 14:48:25 -0700, "MosZibby" <APATHY@ATJ> wrote in message
<vuhe2mbrjlnn51@corp.supernews.com>:

"Nellie Rumery" <slrnmr@adelphia.net> wrote in message

Why did the weatherman have to report the first manned Japanese space

shot? There was a little nip in the air
Semi sorta on topic.
Was talking to a neighbor--Marge is 83--and space flight
was brought up. She said she remembered when Sputnik
orbited. All the kids in the neighborhood went outside to
look at it.