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"Cliff" |
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05 Oct 2005 03:40:54 PM |
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Re: Lack of Pirates cause global warming. |
On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 09:53:48 -0700, Stuart Grey
<stuart.grey@nospam.comcast.net> wrote:
Cliff wrote:
On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 18:00:45 -0700, Stuart Grey
I'd hate to hear from you on "creation science" so
don't even start.
Creation science is to the right wing what diversity, socialism, and
global warming is to the left wing.
Have any cites?
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Cliff
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06 Oct 2005 07:27:30 PM |
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PIRATES LIKE GEORGE BUSH CAUSE GLOBAL WARMING
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| User: "eddie wilson" |
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31 Oct 2005 01:52:49 PM |
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PIRATES LIKE GEORGE BUSH CAUSE GLOBAL WARMING
Bush is a fake cowboy, not a pirate. Steve Van Zandt is a pirate.
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07 Oct 2005 10:10:26 AM |
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On 6 Oct 2005 17:27:30 -0700, wrote:
PIRATES LIKE GEORGE BUSH CAUSE GLOBAL WARMING
Its his farts. RIght?
Gunner
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the ***** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
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| User: "Katt" |
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25 Oct 2005 05:28:30 AM |
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"Gunner" <gunnerNOSPAM@lightspeed.net> wrote in message
news:du3dk1ttosee4j6p3te9hsqfgnaeatfgnv@4ax.com...
On 6 Oct 2005 17:27:30 -0700, wrote:
---begin nominated portion---
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.
---end nominated portion---
My nomination for the year's most self-deluding and historically uninformed
posting: so completely, drivellingly clueless that it could never even be
corrected.
Seconds...?
Katt.
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| User: "gruhn" |
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30 Oct 2005 01:44:29 AM |
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---begin nominated portion---
---begin nominated portion---
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.
---end nominated portion---
My nomination for the year's most self-deluding and historically
uninformed posting: so completely, drivellingly clueless that it could
never even be corrected.
Seconds...?
Katt.
---end nominated portion---
I nominate the above for its complete and utter failure to refute, rebut,
explain, illuminate or otherwise advance my knowledge. While it has been
helpful in helping to characterize Katt, it was useless in terms of making
any argument on the topic which it... one hesitates to say "addressed".
Perhaps "attacked" will suffice.
One might try complaining that I have not supported the specific
"historically uninformed" aspect of my nomination. Let me point out that
anybody even casually browsing misc.survivalism recently would recognize the
snippet nominated as frequently presented. That is, a knowledge of history
reaching back, oh say... a week; and a facility for historical deducation
capable of recognizing that A = A is sufficient to know not to label the
above as "_a_ post." Further, I might add, that basic knowledge of usenet or
even a spot of casual observation and some guesswork would recognize that
the part quoted is not even "a _post_" but rather an appendix to a post; a
signature.
One might argue that what I have written corrects that which I have
nominated. I maintain that the evident self delusion and drivelling
cluelessness exhibited in the nominee indicate that no matter what kind of
counter argument, explanation or refutation is posted, the nominee will
never be made correct.
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| User: "mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges" |
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25 Oct 2005 06:57:11 AM |
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In article <iNn7f.8542$Ce5.8326@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net>, "Katt" <kattt@t.com>
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"Gunner" <gunnerNOSPAM@lightspeed.net> wrote in message
news:du3dk1ttosee4j6p3te9hsqfgnaeatfgnv@4ax.com...
On 6 Oct 2005 17:27:30 -0700, wrote:
---begin nominated portion---
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.
---end nominated portion---
My nomination for the year's most self-deluding and historically uninformed
posting: so completely, drivellingly clueless that it could never even be
corrected.
its been pointed out to him before
its a blackhole of hypocrisy that contradicts itself within one sentence
if you require others to play under rules (-play nice- or otherwise)
then they arent self determinant
if they are self determinant
then you cannot require they follow your rules
it also is not applied to the usa
ask iranians and filipinos and mohawks and honduarans
and vietnamese and haitians and cherokees whether the usa plays nice
yet if russia or france merely ask the usa to play by the same rules
the usa demands others play (un charter or npt etc)
the usa whines like some fat kid that has it tenth candy bar taken away
gunner resolves these contradiction with a higher contradiction
he declares that his side is moral no matter what his side does
and their side is evol unless they do exactly what he wants them to do
and he declares this is not moral relativism
arf meow arf - dogs and cats living together
if you meet buddha on the usenet
killfile him
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| User: "Gio Medici" |
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25 Oct 2005 09:39:41 AM |
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mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges wrote:
(Gunner's sig)
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.
My nomination for the year's most self-deluding and historically uninformed
posting: so completely, drivellingly clueless that it could never even be
corrected.
its been pointed out to him before
its a blackhole of hypocrisy that contradicts itself within one sentence
if you require others to play under rules (-play nice- or otherwise)
then they arent self determinant
if they are self determinant
then you cannot require they follow your rules
it also is not applied to the usa
ask iranians and filipinos and mohawks and honduarans
and vietnamese and haitians and cherokees whether the usa plays nice
yet if russia or france merely ask the usa to play by the same rules
the usa demands others play (un charter or npt etc)
the usa whines like some fat kid that has it tenth candy bar taken away
gunner resolves these contradiction with a higher contradiction
he declares that his side is moral no matter what his side does
and their side is evol unless they do exactly what he wants them to do
and he declares this is not moral relativism
Maybe he has a brain tumor brought on by Agent Orange?
Then again maybe it's Alzheimers.
But before that he was, and still is, a warmonger.
And warmongers are rarely warriors.
Gio
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25 Oct 2005 10:58:03 AM |
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On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 08:39:41 -0600, Gio Medici <giomedici@sumware.com>
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gunner resolves these contradiction with a higher contradiction
he declares that his side is moral no matter what his side does
and their side is evol unless they do exactly what he wants them to do
and he declares this is not moral relativism
Maybe he has a brain tumor brought on by Agent Orange?
Then again maybe it's Alzheimers.
But before that he was, and still is, a warmonger.
And warmongers are rarely warriors.
Gio
Define warmonger.
Would that be like these people?
"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with
the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including,
if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to
respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its
weapons of mass destruction programs." -- From a letter signed by Joe
Lieberman, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara A. Milulski, Tom Daschle, & John
Kerry among others on October 9, 1998
"This December will mark three years since United Nations inspectors
last visited Iraq. There is no doubt that since that time, Saddam
Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that
biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be
back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to refine
delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile
program to develop longer- range missiles that will threaten the
United States and our allies." -- From a December 6, 2001 letter
signed by Bob Graham, Joe Lieberman, Harold Ford, & Tom Lantos among
others
"Whereas Iraq has consistently breached its cease-fire agreement
between Iraq and the United States, entered into on March 3, 1991, by
failing to dismantle its weapons of mass destruction program, and
refusing to permit monitoring and verification by United Nations
inspections; Whereas Iraq has developed weapons of mass destruction,
including chemical and biological capabilities, and has made positive
progress toward developing nuclear weapons capabilities" -- From a
joint resolution submitted by Tom Harkin and Arlen Specter on July 18,
2002
"Saddam's goal ... is to achieve the lifting of U.N. sanctions while
retaining and enhancing Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs.
We cannot, we must not and we will not let him succeed." -- Madeline
Albright, 1998
"(Saddam) will rebuild his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction and
some day, some way, I am certain he will use that arsenal again, as he
has 10 times since 1983" -- National Security Adviser Sandy Berger,
Feb 18, 1998
"Iraq made commitments after the Gulf War to completely dismantle all
weapons of mass destruction, and unfortunately, Iraq has not lived up
to its agreement." -- Barbara Boxer, November 8, 2002
"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are
confident that Saddam Hussein retained some stockpiles of chemical and
biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course
to build up his chemical and biological warfare capability.
Intelligence reports also indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons,
but has not yet achieved nuclear capability." -- Robert Byrd, October
2002
"There's no question that Saddam Hussein is a threat... Yes, he has
chemical and biological weapons. He's had those for a long time. But
the United States right now is on a very much different defensive
posture than we were before September 11th of 2001... He is, as far as
we know, actively pursuing nuclear capabilities, though he doesn't
have nuclear warheads yet. If he were to acquire nuclear weapons, I
think our friends in the region would face greatly increased risks as
would we." -- Wesley Clark on September 26, 2002
"What is at stake is how to answer the potential threat Iraq
represents with the risk of proliferation of WMD. Baghdad's regime did
use such weapons in the past. Today, a number of evidences may lead to
think that, over the past four years, in the absence of international
inspectors, this country has continued armament programs." -- Jacques
Chirac, October 16, 2002
"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of
threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction,
ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond
today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be
emboldened tomorrow." -- Bill Clinton in 1998
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports
show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and
biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his
nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to
terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no
evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11,
2001. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein
will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical
warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he
succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security
landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects
American security." -- Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2002
"I am absolutely convinced that there are weapons...I saw evidence
back in 1998 when we would see the inspectors being barred from
gaining entry into a warehouse for three hours with trucks rolling up
and then moving those trucks out." -- Clinton's Secretary of Defense
William Cohen in April of 2003
"Iraq is not the only nation in the world to possess weapons of mass
destruction, but it is the only nation with a leader who has used them
against his own people." -- Tom Daschle in 1998
"Saddam Hussein's regime represents a grave threat to America and our
allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades,
Saddam Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every
available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons.
He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and
is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to
build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to
achieving that goal." -- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002
"The debate over Iraq is not about politics. It is about national
security. It should be clear that our national security requires
Congress to send a clear message to Iraq and the world: America is
united in its determination to eliminate forever the threat of Iraq's
weapons of mass destruction." -- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002
"I share the administration's goals in dealing with Iraq and its
weapons of mass destruction." -- ***** Gephardt in September of 2002
"Iraq does pose a serious threat to the stability of the Persian Gulf
and we should organize an international coalition to eliminate his
access to weapons of mass destruction. Iraq's search for weapons of
mass destruction has proven impossible to completely deter and we
should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in
power." -- Al Gore, 2002
"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that
Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing
capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass
destruction." -- Bob Graham, December 2002
"Saddam Hussein is not the only deranged dictator who is willing to
deprive his people in order to acquire weapons of mass destruction."
-- Jim Jeffords, October 8, 2002
"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and
developing weapons of mass destruction." -- Ted Kennedy, September 27,
2002
"There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein's regime is a serious danger,
that he is a tyrant, and that his pursuit of lethal weapons of mass
destruction cannot be tolerated. He must be disarmed." -- Ted Kennedy,
Sept 27, 2002
"I will be voting to give the president of the United States the
authority to use force - if necessary - to disarm Saddam Hussein
because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction
in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." -- John F.
Kerry, Oct 2002
"The threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is
real, but as I said, it is not new. It has been with us since the end
of that war, and particularly in the last 4 years we know after
Operation Desert Fox failed to force him to reaccept them, that he has
continued to build those weapons. He has had a free hand for 4 years
to reconstitute these weapons, allowing the world, during the
interval, to lose the focus we had on weapons of mass destruction and
the issue of proliferation." -- John Kerry, October 9, 2002
"(W)e need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous
dictator, leading an oppressive regime. We all know the litany of his
offenses. He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so
consistently prone to miscalculation. ...And now he is miscalculating
America’s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp
for weapons of mass destruction. That is why the world, through the
United Nations Security Council, has spoken with one voice, demanding
that Iraq disclose its weapons programs and disarm. So the threat of
Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but it is not
new. It has been with us since the end of the Persian Gulf War." --
John Kerry, Jan 23, 2003
"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a
threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the
mandates of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass
destruction and the means of delivering them." -- Carl Levin, Sept 19,
2002
"Every day Saddam remains in power with chemical weapons, biological
weapons, and the development of nuclear weapons is a day of danger for
the United States." -- Joe Lieberman, August, 2002
"Over the years, Iraq has worked to develop nuclear, chemical and
biological weapons. During 1991 - 1994, despite Iraq's denials, U.N.
inspectors discovered and dismantled a large network of nuclear
facilities that Iraq was using to develop nuclear weapons. Various
reports indicate that Iraq is still actively pursuing nuclear weapons
capability. There is no reason to think otherwise. Beyond nuclear
weapons, Iraq has actively pursued biological and chemical
weapons.U.N. inspectors have said that Iraq's claims about biological
weapons is neither credible nor verifiable. In 1986, Iraq used
chemical weapons against Iran, and later, against its own Kurdish
population. While weapons inspections have been successful in the
past, there have been no inspections since the end of 1998. There can
be no doubt that Iraq has continued to pursue its goal of obtaining
weapons of mass destruction." -- Patty Murray, October 9, 2002
"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware
that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue
of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in
the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a
threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the
weapons inspection process." -- Nancy Pelosi, December 16, 1998
"Even today, Iraq is not nearly disarmed. Based on highly credible
intelligence, UNSCOM [the U.N. weapons inspectors] suspects that Iraq
still has biological agents like anthrax, botulinum toxin, and
clostridium perfringens in sufficient quantity to fill several dozen
bombs and ballistic missile warheads, as well as the means to continue
manufacturing these deadly agents. Iraq probably retains several tons
of the highly toxic VX substance, as well as sarin nerve gas and
mustard gas. This agent is stored in artillery shells, bombs, and
ballistic missile warheads. And Iraq retains significant dual-use
industrial infrastructure that can be used to rapidly reconstitute
large-scale chemical weapons production." -- Ex-Un Weapons Inspector
Scott Ritter in 1998
"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working
aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear
weapons within the next five years. And that may happen sooner if he
can obtain access to enriched uranium from foreign sources --
something that is not that difficult in the current world. We also
should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has
made in development of weapons of mass destruction." -- John
Rockefeller, Oct 10, 2002
"Saddam’s existing biological and chemical weapons capabilities pose a
very real threat to America, now. Saddam has used chemical weapons
before, both against Iraq’s enemies and against his own people. He is
working to develop delivery systems like missiles and unmanned aerial
vehicles that could bring these deadly weapons against U.S. forces and
U.S. facilities in the Middle East." -- John Rockefeller, Oct 10, 2002
"Whether one agrees or disagrees with the Administration’s policy
towards Iraq, I don’t think there can be any question about Saddam’s
conduct. He has systematically violated, over the course of the past
11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he
disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any
nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do. He lies and cheats; he
snubs the mandate and authority of international weapons inspectors;
and he games the system to keep buying time against enforcement of the
just and legitimate demands of the United Nations, the Security
Council, the United States and our allies. Those are simply the
facts." -- Henry Waxman, Oct 10, 2002
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the ***** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
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| User: "Gio Medici" |
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25 Oct 2005 02:48:41 PM |
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Gunner Asch <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
(Gio)
But before that he was, and still is, a warmonger.
And warmongers are rarely warriors.
Gio
Define warmonger.
Someone who will justify and encourage a country going to war despite
all evidence of it being criminal, ignorant, and/or stupid.
(or)
A bully with delusions of grandeur.
Would that be like these people?
You didn't think that I'd read further than this did you? 206 lines?
<snort>
Gio
"Think of it as your older brother knocking the ***** out of you
for letting in the cat."
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| User: "Gunner" |
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26 Oct 2005 02:58:01 AM |
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On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 13:48:41 -0600, Gio Medici <giomedici@sumware.com>
wrote:
Gunner Asch <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
(Gio)
But before that he was, and still is, a warmonger.
And warmongers are rarely warriors.
Gio
Define warmonger.
Someone who will justify and encourage a country going to war despite
all evidence of it being criminal, ignorant, and/or stupid.
(or)
A bully with delusions of grandeur.
Would that be like these people?
You didn't think that I'd read further than this did you? 206 lines?
<snort>
Gio
Snicker...then the vast number of Democrats are war mongers.
Gunner
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the ***** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
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| User: "Gio Medici" |
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26 Oct 2005 08:03:05 AM |
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Gunner <gunnerNOSPAM@lightspeed.net> wrote:
Define warmonger.
Someone who will justify and encourage a country going to war despite
all evidence of it being criminal, ignorant, and/or stupid.
(or)
A bully with delusions of grandeur.
Would that be like these people?
You didn't think that I'd read further than this did you? 206 lines?
<snort>
Gio
Snicker...then the vast number of Democrats are war mongers.
No, you hypocritical lieing *****, the majority of *politicians,
both Dem and Pug, are warmongers.
Pretending to be an idiot suits your arguments though.
Gio
"Think of it as your elder brother kicking your ***** for letting in the
cat."
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| User: "mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges" |
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26 Oct 2005 08:13:25 AM |
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In article <f8vul15f1bspo2ho650qdbjlkrpc1kprmq@4ax.com>,
Gio Medici <giomedici@sumware.com> wrote:
Gunner <gunnerNOSPAM@lightspeed.net> wrote:
Define warmonger.
Someone who will justify and encourage a country going to war despite
all evidence of it being criminal, ignorant, and/or stupid.
(or)
A bully with delusions of grandeur.
Would that be like these people?
You didn't think that I'd read further than this did you? 206 lines?
<snort>
Gio
Snicker...then the vast number of Democrats are war mongers.
No, you hypocritical lieing *****, the majority of *politicians,
both Dem and Pug, are warmongers.
Pretending to be an idiot suits your arguments though.
note he conflates two different times 1998 and 2002
in 1998 there were no inspsetions and usa could only guess what was going on
and so a little hystria is understandable even if wrong
in 2002 inspections were on the ground and working
and saddam hussein was complying with inspection demands
and the inspections were on the verge of proving no nbc in iraq
and we now know everything shrub told congress was a deliberate outright lie
gunner also blames congress for the poor intelligence results
instead of the president
apparently gunner doesnt understand the deifference
legislative and executive branch
arf meow arf - dogs and cats living together
if you meet buddha on the usenet
killfile him
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26 Oct 2005 09:58:40 AM |
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On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 07:03:05 -0600, Gio Medici <giomedici@sumware.com>
wrote:
Gunner <gunnerNOSPAM@lightspeed.net> wrote:
Define warmonger.
Someone who will justify and encourage a country going to war despite
all evidence of it being criminal, ignorant, and/or stupid.
(or)
A bully with delusions of grandeur.
Would that be like these people?
You didn't think that I'd read further than this did you? 206 lines?
<snort>
Gio
Snicker...then the vast number of Democrats are war mongers.
No, you hypocritical lieing *****, the majority of *politicians,
both Dem and Pug, are warmongers.
Pretending to be an idiot suits your arguments though.
Gio
Look at all the wars in US history...and see what political party the
war presidents were. Then compare them in number.
Being an idiot explains your arguments.
Gunnner
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the ***** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
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| User: "Gio Medici" |
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27 Oct 2005 08:14:38 PM |
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Gunner <gunnerNOSPAM@lightspeed.net> wrote:
Snicker...then the vast number of Democrats are war mongers.
No, you hypocritical lieing *****, the majority of *politicians,
both Dem and Pug, are warmongers.
Pretending to be an idiot suits your arguments though.
Gio
Look at all the wars in US history...and see what political party the
war presidents were. Then compare them in number.
Being an idiot explains your arguments.
And the Congress that cheered them on and squandered the money.....
were they all Democrats too?
Gio
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| User: "Gunner" |
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27 Oct 2005 08:25:00 PM |
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On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 19:14:38 -0600, Gio Medici <giomedici@sumware.com>
wrote:
Gunner <gunnerNOSPAM@lightspeed.net> wrote:
Snicker...then the vast number of Democrats are war mongers.
No, you hypocritical lieing *****, the majority of *politicians,
both Dem and Pug, are warmongers.
Pretending to be an idiot suits your arguments though.
Gio
Look at all the wars in US history...and see what political party the
war presidents were. Then compare them in number.
Being an idiot explains your arguments.
And the Congress that cheered them on and squandered the money.....
were they all Democrats too?
Gio
Those in the last 60 or so years were. It wasnt until 1994 that
Congress became Republican controlled.
Gunner
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the ***** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
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| User: "mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges" |
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27 Oct 2005 08:38:31 PM |
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Those in the last 60 or so years were. It wasnt until 1994 that
Congress became Republican controlled.
now im confused because gunner blames all the problems
on evil democrats from 1998 and 2002
is that like how clinton was still running the country in september 2001?
arf meow arf - dogs and cats living together
if you meet buddha on the usenet
killfile him
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| User: "DaveJr" |
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27 Oct 2005 09:07:13 PM |
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Snicker...then the vast number of Democrats are war mongers.
No, you hypocritical lieing *****, the majority of *politicians,
both Dem and Pug, are warmongers.
Pretending to be an idiot suits your arguments though.
Gio
Look at all the wars in US history...and see what political party the
war presidents were. Then compare them in number.
Just Curious, how many official wars has the US been in since 1971? It
just seems as though the US is always at war, and has been my entire life.
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| User: "Gio Medici" |
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28 Oct 2005 08:03:25 AM |
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On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 01:25:00 GMT, Gunner <gunnerNOSPAM@lightspeed.net>
wrote:
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 19:14:38 -0600, Gio Medici <giomedici@sumware.com>
wrote:
Gunner <gunnerNOSPAM@lightspeed.net> wrote:
Snicker...then the vast number of Democrats are war mongers.
No, you hypocritical lieing *****, the majority of *politicians,
both Dem and Pug, are warmongers.
Pretending to be an idiot suits your arguments though.
Gio
Look at all the wars in US history...and see what political party the
war presidents were. Then compare them in number.
Being an idiot explains your arguments.
And the Congress that cheered them on and squandered the money.....
were they all Democrats too?
Gio
Those in the last 60 or so years were. It wasnt until 1994 that
Congress became Republican controlled.
Gunner
And the Republicans (or Democrats) always manage to be one or two
members missing when it comes time for a critical vote..... sorry, but
we're at war folks. <snort>
And everything remained essentially the same, including the outrageous
military budget. Except for the tax breaks for the warmongers of
course..... they got bigger.
Gio
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| User: "Cliff" |
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28 Oct 2005 07:23:36 PM |
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On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 07:03:25 -0600, Gio Medici <giomedici@sumware.com>
wrote:
sorry, but we're at war folks.
Huh??
With whom, exactly?
Other than the US taxpayer & worker & homeowner & the
middle & lower classes ..... and truth.
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| User: "Gunner" |
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28 Oct 2005 10:12:10 AM |
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On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 07:03:25 -0600, Gio Medici <giomedici@sumware.com>
wrote:
Those in the last 60 or so years were. It wasnt until 1994 that
Congress became Republican controlled.
Gunner
And the Republicans (or Democrats) always manage to be one or two
members missing when it comes time for a critical vote..... sorry, but
we're at war folks. <snort>
And everything remained essentially the same, including the outrageous
military budget. Except for the tax breaks for the warmongers of
course..... they got bigger.
Gio
So..anyone who paid income tax, is a war monger? Interesting. Then I
would assume that you, on welfare, didnt pay any taxes, so didnt get
your tax cuts?
Gunner
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the ***** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
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| User: "Gio Medici" |
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28 Oct 2005 11:22:08 AM |
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Gunner <gunnerNOSPAM@lightspeed.net> wrote:
Those in the last 60 or so years were. It wasnt until 1994 that
Congress became Republican controlled.
Gunner
And the Republicans (or Democrats) always manage to be one or two
members missing when it comes time for a critical vote..... sorry, but
we're at war folks. <snort>
And everything remained essentially the same, including the outrageous
military budget. Except for the tax breaks for the warmongers of
course..... they got bigger.
Gio
So..anyone who paid income tax, is a war monger? Interesting. Then I
would assume that you, on welfare, didnt pay any taxes, so didnt get
your tax cuts?
Gunner
One would assume that when the head be off, the beast would die; but
in your case I assume too much.
Gio
"Think of it as your older brother knocking the ***** out of you
for letting in the cat."
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| User: "Gunner Asch" |
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29 Oct 2005 03:02:07 AM |
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On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 10:22:08 -0600, Gio Medici <giomedici@sumware.com>
wrote:
Gunner <gunnerNOSPAM@lightspeed.net> wrote:
Those in the last 60 or so years were. It wasnt until 1994 that
Congress became Republican controlled.
Gunner
And the Republicans (or Democrats) always manage to be one or two
members missing when it comes time for a critical vote..... sorry, but
we're at war folks. <snort>
And everything remained essentially the same, including the outrageous
military budget. Except for the tax breaks for the warmongers of
course..... they got bigger.
Gio
So..anyone who paid income tax, is a war monger? Interesting. Then I
would assume that you, on welfare, didnt pay any taxes, so didnt get
your tax cuts?
Gunner
One would assume that when the head be off, the beast would die; but
in your case I assume too much.
Gio
Laugh laugh laugh. It appears I hit a nerve. But then..all you have
are nerves. No neurons, only nerves...
Gunner
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the ***** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
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| User: "Gio Medici" |
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29 Oct 2005 09:44:00 AM |
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Gunner Asch <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
Look at all the wars in US history...and see what political party the
war presidents were. Then compare them in number.
Being an idiot explains your arguments.
And the Congress that cheered them on and squandered the money.....
were they all Democrats too?
Those in the last 60 or so years were. It wasnt until 1994 that
Congress became Republican controlled.
Gunner
And the Republicans (or Democrats) always manage to be one or two
members missing when it comes time for a critical vote..... sorry, but
we're at war folks. <snort>
And everything remained essentially the same, including the outrageous
military budget. Except for the tax breaks for the warmongers of
course..... they got bigger.
Gio
So..anyone who paid income tax, is a war monger? Interesting. Then I
would assume that you, on welfare, didnt pay any taxes, so didnt get
your tax cuts?
Gunner
One would assume that when the head be off, the beast would die; but
in your case I assume too much.
Gio
Laugh laugh laugh. It appears I hit a nerve. But then..all you have
are nerves. No neurons, only nerves...
Gunner
Let me get this straight..... you presume to claim the moral
highground for yourself and the Republicans because the evil
'warmonger' Democrats were in power back when you volunteered to help
them with the slaughter in Vietnam?
How's that for a nerve, buckwheat?
Gio
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| User: "Gunner Asch" |
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29 Oct 2005 10:53:26 AM |
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On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 08:44:00 -0600, Gio Medici <giomedici@sumware.com>
wrote:
Gunner Asch <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
Look at all the wars in US history...and see what political party the
war presidents were. Then compare them in number.
Being an idiot explains your arguments.
And the Congress that cheered them on and squandered the money.....
were they all Democrats too?
Those in the last 60 or so years were. It wasnt until 1994 that
Congress became Republican controlled.
Gunner
And the Republicans (or Democrats) always manage to be one or two
members missing when it comes time for a critical vote..... sorry, but
we're at war folks. <snort>
And everything remained essentially the same, including the outrageous
military budget. Except for the tax breaks for the warmongers of
course..... they got bigger.
Gio
So..anyone who paid income tax, is a war monger? Interesting. Then I
would assume that you, on welfare, didnt pay any taxes, so didnt get
your tax cuts?
Gunner
One would assume that when the head be off, the beast would die; but
in your case I assume too much.
Gio
Laugh laugh laugh. It appears I hit a nerve. But then..all you have
are nerves. No neurons, only nerves...
Gunner
Let me get this straight..... you presume to claim the moral
highground for yourself and the Republicans because the evil
'warmonger' Democrats were in power back when you volunteered to help
them with the slaughter in Vietnam?
How's that for a nerve, buckwheat?
Gio
The fact of the matter is..most of the wars the US has been engaged in
through out its history, had a Democrat as a commander in chief when
the war started.
And most often, if it lasted more than one presidential term..were
finished by Republicans. I went to RVN with Richard Nixon as
president, both times.
And all wars are slaughter. Shrug..its the nature of war. You didnt
get the memo?
Gunner
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the ***** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
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| User: "Gio Medici" |
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29 Oct 2005 03:44:55 PM |
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Gunner Asch <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
Look at all the wars in US history...and see what political party the
war presidents were. Then compare them in number.
And the Congress that cheered them on and squandered the money.....
were they all Democrats too?
Those in the last 60 or so years were. It wasnt until 1994 that
Congress became Republican controlled.
(Gio)
Let me get this straight..... you presume to claim the moral
highground for yourself and the Republicans because the evil
'warmonger' Democrats were in power back when you volunteered to help
them with the slaughter in Vietnam?
How's that for a nerve, buckwheat?
The fact of the matter is..most of the wars the US has been engaged in
through out its history, had a Democrat as a commander in chief when
the war started.
And most often, if it lasted more than one presidential term..were
finished by Republicans. I went to RVN with Richard Nixon as
president, both times.
Did you refuse to fight under a Dem, and wait until the Pugs needed
your help? Was it Nixon that justified the war for you, or was it OK
even though the Dems 'started it'?
And all wars are slaughter. Shrug..its the nature of war. You didnt
get the memo?
Sure..... and war is fine with me. As a human I can't help but drool
at the prospect. It's the lieing I hate.
Gio
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| User: "Gio Medici" |
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31 Oct 2005 12:56:49 PM |
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Gunner Asch <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
Look at all the wars in US history...and see what political party the
war presidents were. Then compare them in number.
And the Congress that cheered them on and squandered the money.....
were they all Democrats too?
Those in the last 60 or so years were. It wasnt until 1994 that
Congress became Republican controlled.
(Gio)
Let me get this straight..... you presume to claim the moral
highground for yourself and the Republicans because the evil
'warmonger' Democrats were in power back when you volunteered to help
them with the slaughter in Vietnam?
How's that for a nerve, buckwheat?
The fact of the matter is..most of the wars the US has been engaged in
through out its history, had a Democrat as a commander in chief when
the war started.
And most often, if it lasted more than one presidential term..were
finished by Republicans. I went to RVN with Richard Nixon as
president, both times.
Did you refuse to fight under a Dem, and wait until the Pugs needed
your help? Was it Nixon that justified the war for you, or was it OK
even though the Dems 'started it'?
And all wars are slaughter. Shrug..its the nature of war. You didnt
get the memo?
Sure..... and war is fine with me. As a human I can't help but drool
at the prospect. It's the lieing I hate.
Gio
Still waiting, buckwheat; but usenet is so unreliable it's plausible
that you never got my first reply. Except that your history of
hypocricy and bailing out when pressed precedes you.
Think of it as your elder brother kicking your ***** for letting in the
cat.
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| User: "Gunner Asch" |
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| Title: Re: Lack of Pirates cause global warming. |
31 Oct 2005 01:44:29 PM |
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On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 11:56:49 -0700, Gio Medici <giomedici@sumware.com>
wrote:
Gunner Asch <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote:
Look at all the wars in US history...and see what political party the
war presidents were. Then compare them in number.
And the Congress that cheered them on and squandered the money.....
were they all Democrats too?
Those in the last 60 or so years were. It wasnt until 1994 that
Congress became Republican controlled.
(Gio)
Let me get this straight..... you presume to claim the moral
highground for yourself and the Republicans because the evil
'warmonger' Democrats were in power back when you volunteered to help
them with the slaughter in Vietnam?
How's that for a nerve, buckwheat?
The fact of the matter is..most of the wars the US has been engaged in
through out its history, had a Democrat as a commander in chief when
the war started.
And most often, if it lasted more than one presidential term..were
finished by Republicans. I went to RVN with Richard Nixon as
president, both times.
Did you refuse to fight under a Dem, and wait until the Pugs needed
your help? Was it Nixon that justified the war for you, or was it OK
even though the Dems 'started it'?
Actuallly..no. I wasnt old enough to join when that rat ***** LBJ
was in office. I joined the miltary to serve my country. And that is
something Leftist schmucks like you simply cannot fathom.
And all wars are slaughter. Shrug..its the nature of war. You didnt
get the memo?
Sure..... and war is fine with me. As a human I can't help but drool
at the prospect. It's the lieing I hate.
Actually..Id suspect the idea of war makes you ***** your panties. And
having been an active participant, war makes me ***** my pants too.
But..like having a root canal, sometimes its necessary. Give the huge
number of Dems who also that this was was necessary...Id say that its
only the extremist leftwing fringe kooks such as yourself, that have a
serious problem with us going in and doing wants necessary to
establish Iraq as a democracy. Now lets see...three national
elections, a popularly supported and voted Constitution, most of the
Bathaist and Feyadeen warlords dead or in custody, Sadam and his
henchmen being tried for capital crimes and soon to be given the "long
drop" etc etc.
Given your, and your ilks spew, and the lies you continue to
proliferate..Id have to say you must be a self hater and a traitor to
the rest of your bunch, if you hate lying as much as you say you do.
So why do you continue to demonstrate such extreme hypocrasy in
continuing to lie like a rug?
Gio
Still waiting, buckwheat; but usenet is so unreliable it's plausible
that you never got my first reply. Except that your history of
hypocricy and bailing out when pressed precedes you.
Blink blink...coming from you, when I ask for cites..and never getting
anything other than spewed opinion...thats a wee bit laughable.
Hugely laughable in fact...fucking hilarious. And no..I didnt see
your post. As you may have noted..I still havent dropped you into the
kill file, as your entertainment value is still of some worth.
Gunner
Think of it as your elder brother kicking your ***** for letting in the
cat.
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the ***** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
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| User: "JTEM" |
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31 Oct 2005 02:12:36 PM |
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"Gunner Asch" <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote
Actuallly..no. I wasnt old enough to join when that rat ***** LBJ
was in office. I joined the miltary to serve my country. And that is
something Leftist schmucks like you simply cannot fathom.
I served in Vietnam myself, with Bush.
Yeah, I know, it LOOKED like Texas, Alabama, Georgia &
whatever other guard unit we got shuffled off to when our
blatent disregard for service destroyed moral, but it was in
fact Vietnam.
(and I've got a hang-over to prove it)
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| User: "Gunner Asch" |
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31 Oct 2005 09:38:04 PM |
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On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:12:36 -0500, "JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Gunner Asch" <gunner@lightspeed.net> wrote
Actuallly..no. I wasnt old enough to join when that rat ***** LBJ
was in office. I joined the miltary to serve my country. And that is
something Leftist schmucks like you simply cannot fathom.
I served in Vietnam myself, with Bush.
Yeah, I know, it LOOKED like Texas, Alabama, Georgia &
whatever other guard unit we got shuffled off to when our
blatent disregard for service destroyed moral, but it was in
fact Vietnam.
(and I've got a hang-over to prove it)
blink blink..huh?
Gunner
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the ***** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
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| User: "Bushistas Support Fascist Ass-Reaming Murderers" |
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02 Nov 2005 07:02:14 PM |
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I was busily flonking away in alt.usenet.kooks, when The Goddess Eris
Herself suddenly made me reply to Gunner Asch:
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:12:36 -0500, "JTEM" wrote:
"Gunner Asch" wrote
Actuallly..no. I wasnt old enough to join when that rat ***** LBJ
was in office. I joined the miltary to serve my country. And that is
something Leftist schmucks like you simply cannot fathom.
I served in Vietnam myself, with Bush.
Yeah, I know, it LOOKED like Texas, Alabama, Georgia &
whatever other guard unit we got shuffled off to when our
[blatant] disregard for service destroyed [morale], but it was in
fact Vietnam.
(and I've got a hang-over to prove it)
blink blink..huh?
There, is it easier to understand now?
Gunner
"Pax Romana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the ***** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
<edited for honesty>
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Hail Eris! mhm 29x21
"Gay men deserve to die." -- John Wentzky
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