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"Jon" |
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11 Dec 2005 06:34:45 PM |
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Re: Lies,lies, and damn lies |
On 11 Dec 2005 07:45:50 -0800, "tedw" <tedw2@earthlink.net> wrote in message
<1134315950.056681.225410@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
This morning Im fed up. Im fed up with all the lies in the so-called
recovery movement. If you want to read the same old thing about having
a "disease' and going to 90 meetings in 90 days go somewhere ..
I know. All the experts say addiction is a "disease". But I know
better. You know how I know. I shot dope with people like you. I know
you don't have a "disease". The truth is you're a rotten swine.
of course.
ditto for xtians.
No damn good. The truth is your evil.
true. this is very true.
xtians too.
That sounds kind of negative I know. But its true. Remember I drank and
shot dope with the likes of you for nearly a decade and ½ .. I know
about the burgalaries you did, the cars you stole, the money you took
when nobody was looking. I know about the gun you stuck in peoples
face. The hot credit cards you sold. The purse you snatched. Maybe even
the murder you committed. How about that "friend" whose wife you
screwed. Or that person you helped get their first fix. The list is
pretty long. That's the bad news. You're a selfish swine.rotten,
hatefilled swine. .
true. and they remain the same old pigs even once they've stopped using.
The good news is this:
I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance"
(Luke 5:29-32).
And you qualify. But you have to admit to the truth. A tepid admission
that you have a "disease" isn't going to fill the bill. Admitting
that your evil is probably the most important thing you can do, and the
most painful. But its also the most hopeful. You see being evil is not
necessarily a permanent condition.
what if they're bad to the bone?
A minister friend of mine puts it this way:
"You cant be born again unless you admit your evil"
What it is you want? Do you want truth or lies? Do you want the old
nature or do you want a new nature?
http://Christianrecovery.blogspot.com
all i know is i never met anyone who was born more than once.
and dunking someone in water, just makes them wet.
eating some bread and wine, just gives them a snack.
--
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Jon Upfold, universal arsehole, ***** extraordinaire
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| User: "GaryE" |
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| Title: Re: Lies,lies, and damn lies |
11 Dec 2005 07:00:56 PM |
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On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 02:34:45 +0200, "Jon" <jon@upfold.co.za> wrote:
all i know is i never met anyone who was born more than once.
and dunking someone in water, just makes them wet.
eating some bread and wine, just gives them a snack.
--
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
A sane and wise man.....
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| User: "Jon" |
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| Title: Re: Lies,lies, and damn lies |
12 Dec 2005 04:30:18 AM |
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On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:00:56 -0600, GaryE <garyexxxxxxx@swbell.net> wrote in
message <ktipp1p5rakpijrdjjoc4te4djvps10bvo@4ax.com>:
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 02:34:45 +0200, "Jon" <jon@upfold.co.za> wrote:
all i know is i never met anyone who was born more than once.
and dunking someone in water, just makes them wet.
eating some bread and wine, just gives them a snack.
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
A sane and wise man.....
hoo dat?
--
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Jon Upfold, universal arsehole, ***** extraordinaire
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