Jason Gastrich wrote:
hdsienkiew...@yahoo.com wrote:
Jason Gastrich wrote:
hdsienkiew...@yahoo.com wrote:
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You haven't made any point except for your usual opinionated
nonsense. The time where you could go unchallenged bashing me,
Davey, and others has ended.
Really, Jason?
Nope. I'm just getting warmed up.
Your rather well-timed and fortuitous return to posting - a day
after
I told Davey publicly that I would be busy traveling this week and
would not have much time to post, is interestingly coincidental.
Look at your ego.
Well, Jason, while I won't deny having an ego, I am also amused at how
you wave this off.
But it's neither here nor there, is it?
On the other hand, having YOU presume to make a point about the ego of
another is somewhat akin to having Hitler lead a study of Torah.
It just doesn't work, Jason.
But that's okay. You can wait.
So can I.
But it's going to be fun, I promise you.
For me, of course.
Looking forward to it, Jason!
See you Thursday.
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I didn't come here to talk to you,
Yes you did, Jason. I pushed you into this; and quite intentionally,
too.
In fact, I find it interesting that you made all those brave noises at
me a few days ago, but after I respond, you decide that you "didn't
come here to talk to" me.
You came here full of fire and figuring you were going to give me my
comeuppance, but when I respond, you're not here to talk to me.
Fascinating.
but since you are here - or when you are
here - I'll try not to ignore you; even though you have done nothing
to earn
my respect
Jason, I'm curious, because you use this a lot.
Why do you think ANYONE even CARES about YOUR "respect?"
Who are you that anyone should care?
Really, youngster, you are such a reprehensible person that not having
your respect would be a boon, I should think.
and everything to bring shame to yourself.
Well, if it is "everything," you should have no problem listing a few.
How long shall I wait for that?
Maybe it has something to do with the way you present yourself.
Davey says it's because you're young and he implies but has never
outright said - that I can recall - that you have a maturity
issue.
Davey is a good guy and he supports me and JCSM.
I never said he doesn't support you, Jason. Do try to keep up.
Don't act like he
has taken another side.
I didn't say he'd taken another side, either, so why would I act like
he had?
Davey MAKES EXCUSES for you, Jason, but he has also acknowledged, even
if only grudginly, that you have maturity issues.
HE says it's because of your zeal.
I think it's something else, of course.
We know what Davey has said and he hasn't
said what you're alluding to.
Well, apparently, you DON'T know what Davey has said.
Then again, you seem to be having trouble keeping up with much of what
is said, so maybe you're just confu...
No, I won't take that route.
I certainly agree with THAT.
You're 30 years old. When do you plan to start acting like a
REAL
christian.
If you have a specific issue, feel free to post it.
Where have you BEEN, Jason?
I think I've posted lots of "specific" issues in the past few months,
haven't I?
I'll address
it. I know you chickened out regarding the 60-90 minute - ASK
ANYTHING YOU WANT - chat room challenge. You even tried to spin
your fear into something else by saying I was controlling
everything
when I clearly told you that you could - ASK ANYTHING YOU WANT.
My fear.
That's a funny one, Jason.
You run from me for MONTHS, then finally toss a PROPOSAL (not a
"challenge," it didn't become THAT until I turned you down) my way. I
reject the terms, which to you were nonnegotiable, and *I* "chickened
out."
Funny stuff, Jason, made moreso by the things you DIDN'T mention about
your "challenge."
I was told that there would be specific things I MUST ask.
I was to post it where YOU demanded.
YOU would determine the time limits.
NO ONE ELSE could participate.
And Jason? I know I can ask anything I want, but that was never an
issue since, from my point of view, THAT is ALSO nonnegotiable.
Now, as I told Davey, I had some terms I would accept, but rather than
suggest them, I simply rejected yours.
You see, I KNEW you would behave as you did.
I gave you lots of reasons why I rejected your terms. You did not
rebut any of them or show any of them to be invalid.
You simply threw a temper tantrum, which is EXACTLY what I expected you
to do and, frankly, what I intended you to do.
*I* dictate the terms of my participation in these things, Jason.
Not you.
I'm taking you and your "ministry" down, Jason. Every means that I use
to do so will be legal and irrevocable. I will use the power of the
consumer, the power of business law, the power of the Internet and
whatever else, as long as it violates no laws, it's fair game.
And you know what the beautiful part of all of that is?
You're going to help me.
In fact, you've already started. Your recent performance in these
newsgroups is a marvelous beginning to the end of Jesus Christ Saves
Ministries.
Now, I confess, it may not ultimately happen that way. Even Peter
Popoff and Bob Larson continue to have marginally successful ministries
- even as founded on fraud as they are; but that happens, too.
Anyhow, I act like a real Christian every day.
No, you act like an egomaniac every day.
I just don't brag
about the good things I do.
Like the miracles, the 60,000 web pages, the 3,000 or 4,000 "answers"
that may be found in your "masterpiece" of an e-book?
What about your "awesome" debating skills that have people like Dan
Barker allegedly afraid to debate you (again)?
Hey, then there's that master's degree - the one you got from the
diploma mill.
My goodness, Jason, then there's that doctorate!
There's the MILLIONS your web sites reach each and every month (or
year, I can't remember at the moment). So many languages, too!
Jason, I could go on and on and on...because YOU go on and on and
on...about YOU.
None of this is about God or Jesus or being a good christian.
It's all about you.
I don't tell them to you and I'm not
sure I ever will, David. Right now, I don't trust you to get the
facts straight, so why should I tell you every good deed I do in
order to prove to you that I'm a "REAL christian"? Prove to me
that
you need this kind of information about me, David.
Ever hear of a thing called "credibility," Jason?
If you had any, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Prove to me why
I should do this for your benefit.
Well, now, I never said you'd be doing anything for MY benefit.
Your benefit is another matter.
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