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"David Vestal" |
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09 Apr 2005 09:20:37 PM |
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Re: Mirroring of The Alt.Atheism List |
How, exactly, was this necessitated? What risk has been avoided or
precluded by mirroring the pilfered list?
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| User: "Voice of Truth International Church" |
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| Title: Re: Mirroring of The Alt.Atheism List |
09 Apr 2005 09:36:52 PM |
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The risk that anyone attacking one site will not affect what's on the
other.
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| User: "David Vestal" |
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| Title: Re: Mirroring of The Alt.Atheism List |
09 Apr 2005 09:43:17 PM |
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"Voice of Truth International Church" <news@votic.org> wrote in
news:1113082612.539369.206140@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
David Vestal wrote:
How, exactly, was this necessitated? What risk has been avoided or
precluded by mirroring the pilfered list?
The risk that anyone attacking one site will not affect what's on the
other.
What information do you have that anyone plans to attack Jason's site?
After all, even Chicken Little had SOME information (albeit
misinterpreted) before he sounded the alarm. If you have none, then
the mirroring plan sounds more like a malicious insinuation than a
necessary precaution. So, what information do you have?
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| User: "Carson West" |
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| Title: Re: Mirroring of The Alt.Atheism List |
09 Apr 2005 09:49:46 PM |
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On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 14:43:17 -0700, David Vestal wrote:
"Voice of Truth International Church" <news@votic.org> wrote in
news:1113082612.539369.206140@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
David Vestal wrote:
How, exactly, was this necessitated? What risk has been
avoided or precluded by mirroring the pilfered list?
The risk that anyone attacking one site will not affect what's
on the other.
What information do you have that anyone plans to attack Jason's
site? After all, even Chicken Little had SOME information (albeit
misinterpreted) before he sounded the alarm. If you have none, then
the mirroring plan sounds more like a malicious insinuation than a
necessary precaution. So, what information do you have?
They're children, tweaking the noses of those with whom they disagree, and
they can't help but act like children.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Mirroring of The Alt.Atheism List |
09 Apr 2005 10:24:41 PM |
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In our last episode
<1113082612.539369.206140@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Voice of Truth
International Church pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare
proclaimed:
The risk that anyone attacking one site will not affect what's on the
other.
Ah, so now you want to dabble in libel by implying criminal activities
without any evidence to support the accusation?
Yeah, you people are *so moral. We should *all be so moral...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Group website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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| User: "Kate " |
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| Title: Re: Mirroring of The Alt.Atheism List |
09 Apr 2005 10:33:03 PM |
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On 9 Apr 2005 14:36:52 -0700, "Voice of Truth International Church"
<news@votic.org> wrote:
The risk that anyone attacking one site will not affect what's on the
other.
You mean if Gastrich get's his domain removed because of copyright
theft, you plan to mirror the theft?
How moral of you.
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| User: "Now Heres Clayton With The Weather" |
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| Title: Re: Mirroring of The Alt.Atheism List |
09 Apr 2005 11:10:25 PM |
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"Kate " <cobalt@newscene.com> wrote in message
news:429857a3.1042904296@news-west.newscene.com...
On 9 Apr 2005 14:36:52 -0700, "Voice of Truth International Church"
<news@votic.org> wrote:
The risk that anyone attacking one site will not affect what's on the
other.
You mean if Gastrich get's his domain removed because of copyright
theft, you plan to mirror the theft?
How moral of you.
It is Gastrich...it's a sock puppet!
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: Mirroring of The Alt.Atheism List |
10 Apr 2005 09:21:55 AM |
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On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:10:25 +1000 in alt.atheism, Now Here's Clayton
With The Weather ("Now Here's Clayton With The Weather"
<cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonymails.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
"Kate " <cobalt@newscene.com> wrote in message
news:429857a3.1042904296@news-west.newscene.com...
On 9 Apr 2005 14:36:52 -0700, "Voice of Truth International Church"
<news@votic.org> wrote:
The risk that anyone attacking one site will not affect what's on the
other.
You mean if Gastrich get's his domain removed because of copyright
theft, you plan to mirror the theft?
How moral of you.
It is Gastrich...it's a sock puppet!
Probably not. He's posting from somewhere in Hampshire / Berkshire.
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| User: "Voice of Truth International Church" |
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| Title: Re: Mirroring of The Alt.Atheism List |
10 Apr 2005 09:33:09 AM |
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"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
news:gkpg515q3d836v6rfe88na5amv1c82878a@4ax.com...
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:10:25 +1000 in alt.atheism, Now Here's Clayton
With The Weather ("Now Here's Clayton With The Weather"
<cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonymails.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
"Kate " <cobalt@newscene.com> wrote in message
news:429857a3.1042904296@news-west.newscene.com...
On 9 Apr 2005 14:36:52 -0700, "Voice of Truth International Church"
<news@votic.org> wrote:
The risk that anyone attacking one site will not affect what's on the
other.
You mean if Gastrich get's his domain removed because of copyright
theft, you plan to mirror the theft?
How moral of you.
It is Gastrich...it's a sock puppet!
Probably not. He's posting from somewhere in Hampshire / Berkshire.
Posting from London.
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: Mirroring of The Alt.Atheism List |
10 Apr 2005 09:56:52 AM |
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On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:33:09 +0100 in alt.atheism, Voice of Truth
International Church ("Voice of Truth International Church"
<news@votic.org>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
news:gkpg515q3d836v6rfe88na5amv1c82878a@4ax.com...
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:10:25 +1000 in alt.atheism, Now Here's Clayton
With The Weather ("Now Here's Clayton With The Weather"
<cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonymails.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
"Kate " <cobalt@newscene.com> wrote in message
news:429857a3.1042904296@news-west.newscene.com...
On 9 Apr 2005 14:36:52 -0700, "Voice of Truth International Church"
<news@votic.org> wrote:
The risk that anyone attacking one site will not affect what's on the
other.
You mean if Gastrich get's his domain removed because of copyright
theft, you plan to mirror the theft?
How moral of you.
It is Gastrich...it's a sock puppet!
Probably not. He's posting from somewhere in Hampshire / Berkshire.
Posting from London.
No, I think that's just where his DSL endpoint router is. There are
other reasons to suspect Berkshire / Hampshire, and probably a
connection to Aldermaston!
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| User: "Jez" |
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| Title: Re: Mirroring of The Alt.Atheism List |
10 Apr 2005 10:27:03 AM |
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Therion Ware wrote:
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:33:09 +0100 in alt.atheism, Voice of Truth
International Church ("Voice of Truth International Church"
<news@votic.org>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
news:gkpg515q3d836v6rfe88na5amv1c82878a@4ax.com...
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:10:25 +1000 in alt.atheism, Now Here's Clayton
With The Weather ("Now Here's Clayton With The Weather"
<cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonymails.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
"Kate " <cobalt@newscene.com> wrote in message
news:429857a3.1042904296@news-west.newscene.com...
On 9 Apr 2005 14:36:52 -0700, "Voice of Truth International Church"
<news@votic.org> wrote:
The risk that anyone attacking one site will not affect what's on the
other.
You mean if Gastrich get's his domain removed because of copyright
theft, you plan to mirror the theft?
How moral of you.
It is Gastrich...it's a sock puppet!
Probably not. He's posting from somewhere in Hampshire / Berkshire.
Posting from London.
No, I think that's just where his DSL endpoint router is. There are
other reasons to suspect Berkshire / Hampshire, and probably a
connection to Aldermaston!
Rochdale, Lancashire.
--
Jez, MBA.,
Country Dancing and Advanced Astrology, UBS.
'Realism is seductive because once you have accepted the reasonable
notion that you should base your actions on reality, you are too often
led to accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of what
that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
Howard Zinn
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: Mirroring of The Alt.Atheism List |
10 Apr 2005 10:37:55 AM |
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On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 11:27:03 +0100 in alt.atheism, Jez (Jez
<iced_spear@NODAMNSPAMpipex.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
Therion Ware wrote:
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:33:09 +0100 in alt.atheism, Voice of Truth
International Church ("Voice of Truth International Church"
<news@votic.org>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
news:gkpg515q3d836v6rfe88na5amv1c82878a@4ax.com...
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 09:10:25 +1000 in alt.atheism, Now Here's Clayton
With The Weather ("Now Here's Clayton With The Weather"
<cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonymails.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
"Kate " <cobalt@newscene.com> wrote in message
news:429857a3.1042904296@news-west.newscene.com...
On 9 Apr 2005 14:36:52 -0700, "Voice of Truth International Church"
<news@votic.org> wrote:
The risk that anyone attacking one site will not affect what's on the
other.
You mean if Gastrich get's his domain removed because of copyright
theft, you plan to mirror the theft?
How moral of you.
It is Gastrich...it's a sock puppet!
Probably not. He's posting from somewhere in Hampshire / Berkshire.
Posting from London.
No, I think that's just where his DSL endpoint router is. There are
other reasons to suspect Berkshire / Hampshire, and probably a
connection to Aldermaston!
Rochdale, Lancashire.
Home of the infamous Revd. Kevin Logan! Or was last time I looked,
anyway.
Anyway, note the British Monomarks (a private PO box) address in the
whois of votic.org
Now that said, this is interesting because BM 888 is shared by at
least two companies as a corespondence address:
NATIONWIDEINTERNETSERVICES.NET LIMITED
Beachbrook Ltd
Beachbrook Limited owns a domain beachbrook.co.uk which has a
registered company address of
5 Jupiter House
Calleva Park
ALDERMASTON <--- heh, home of British nuclear weapons!
Reading
Berkshire
RG7 8NN
which is in fact a unit in a light industrial business park
which in turn reveals the following companies at the same address.
software.plc.uk
calleva.com
and two people, who shall remain nameless for the moment.
If a companies house search confirms a link in terms of directors,
bwteen NationwideInternetServices, Beachbrook, and software.plc.uk
and/or calleva, then I think we'll have identified our man, or at
least got very close to him.
But companies house is offline of a Sunday, so we'll just have to wait
for the exciting conclusion to this exciting episode!
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: Mirroring of The Alt.Atheism List |
10 Apr 2005 06:17:32 PM |
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Isent the following to 'office@votic.org'
Jason Gastrich has informed members of free.christians that you are
mirroring his stolen list at
http://www.votic.org/jcsm/AltAtheismAtheistAgnosticList.htm.
He took it without permission after being explicitly asked not to.
I and a large number of others have asked that he remove the list and
failing that remove my name from his illicit copy.
Since this event took place seven people specifically asked to be formally
recognized as atheists. The reason given is that they do not want to be
associated with "christians" like Jason.
Do you?
If you are on the fence about it Google his "work" on alt.atheism.
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