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Religions > Atheism |
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"John Jukes" |
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28 Jan 2004 09:42:03 AM |
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Re: My discussion with a Muslim |
stephen wrote:
Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
I had a discussion with a Muslim person the other day. He was telling
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The Muslim guy got very excited and said that only a Muslim can go
to
heaven.
I felt like I was talking to a fanatic at this point.
What is bothersome is that this intolerance of others is what
appears
to be the problem with Muslims in the Western Society.
I am an athiest, and I have a number of athiest and agnostic friends.
We have pretty much stopped making a distinction between which
mythology is followed by any given individual, but rather on whether
they are a fundamentalist. "Fundie" for short.
We find that there are reasonable people from from just about every
sect, and far too many unreasonable ones, as well.
I think the risk from fundie Christians is far higher in North America
than from fundie Muslims. The former have been much more effective
in imposing their belief sets on others, and they have highjacked
the republican party in the US and must bear some of the responsibilty
for the evil that GWB has, and is, doing.
Why can't they just live and let live, happy in their belief that I
and those who believe in reason, as I do, will go to hell.
--
Stephen
The more I study religions the more I am convinced that man
never worshipped anything but himself.
Richard Burton
All followers of Religions are basically fanatics. The original poster
should realize this.
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| User: "nightwriter" |
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| Title: Re: My discussion with a Muslim |
28 Jan 2004 09:52:17 AM |
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"John Jukes" <JJukes-no-spam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c3VwbGV4.85b61c1eaa42edb9d1b6b85b6008843b@1075304523.nulluser.com...
stephen wrote:
Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
I had a discussion with a Muslim person the other day. He was telling
...
The Muslim guy got very excited and said that only a Muslim can go
to
heaven.
I felt like I was talking to a fanatic at this point.
What is bothersome is that this intolerance of others is what
appears
to be the problem with Muslims in the Western Society.
I am an athiest, and I have a number of athiest and agnostic friends.
We have pretty much stopped making a distinction between which
mythology is followed by any given individual, but rather on whether
they are a fundamentalist. "Fundie" for short.
We find that there are reasonable people from from just about every
sect, and far too many unreasonable ones, as well.
I think the risk from fundie Christians is far higher in North America
than from fundie Muslims. The former have been much more effective
in imposing their belief sets on others, and they have highjacked
the republican party in the US and must bear some of the responsibilty
for the evil that GWB has, and is, doing.
Why can't they just live and let live, happy in their belief that I
and those who believe in reason, as I do, will go to hell.
--
Stephen
The more I study religions the more I am convinced that man
never worshipped anything but himself.
Richard Burton
All followers of Religions are basically fanatics. The original poster
should realize this.
ahhh relativism. nothing like a quick burst of it to try and trump another
post. stephen, you have a good point. i concur.
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| User: "Daniel Kolle" |
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| Title: Re: My discussion with a Muslim |
28 Jan 2004 12:18:04 PM |
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"John Jukes" <JJukes-no-spam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<c3VwbGV4.85b61c1eaa42edb9d1b6b85b6008843b@1075304523.nulluser.com>...
All followers of Religions are basically fanatics. The original poster
should realize this.
Not necessarly. Some theists are casual in their belief.
By fanatic, what do you mean? Do you mean abortion clinic bombing and
sucide bombing fanatic? Few religious people are fanatic in that
sense.
Some religious people, however, are very devout. This devotion my seem
to fanaticism to some people, I guess.
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| User: "veranda" |
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| Title: Re: My discussion with a Muslim |
30 Jan 2004 12:32:05 AM |
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"Daniel Kolle" <DKolle@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7614cd74.0401281018.252cd01b@posting.google.com...
"John Jukes" <JJukes-no-spam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<c3VwbGV4.85b61c1eaa42edb9d1b6b85b6008843b@1075304523.nulluser.com>...
All followers of Religions are basically fanatics. The original poster
should realize this.
Not necessarly. Some theists are casual in their belief.
By fanatic, what do you mean? Do you mean abortion clinic bombing and
sucide bombing fanatic? Few religious people are fanatic in that
sense.
Some religious people, however, are very devout. This devotion my seem
to fanaticism to some people, I guess.
Dividing it in 'violent' and 'non-violent' fanatics is an
oversimplification ?
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| User: "johnnospaml" |
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| Title: Re: My discussion with a Muslim |
28 Jan 2004 07:00:28 PM |
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Daniel Kolle wrote:
"John Jukes" <JJukes-no-spam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<c3VwbGV4.85b61c1eaa42edb9d1b6b85b6008843b@1075304523.nulluser.com>...
All followers of Religions are basically fanatics. The original poster
should realize this.
Not necessarly. Some theists are casual in their belief.
By fanatic, what do you mean? Do you mean abortion clinic bombing and
sucide bombing fanatic? Few religious people are fanatic in that
sense.
Some religious people, however, are very devout. This devotion my seem
to fanaticism to some people, I guess.
....it seems that many, if not all atheist and non-believers, are
fanatical anti-religious hate mongers with the reasoning
capability and mentality of the KKK.
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| User: "shadow self" |
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| Title: Re: My discussion with a Muslim |
29 Jan 2004 10:34:52 PM |
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"john(nospam)l" <"john(nospam)l"@tcn.net> wrote in message
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...it seems that many, if not all atheist and non-believers, are
fanatical anti-religious hate mongers with the reasoning
capability and mentality of the KKK.
Generalise much?
It's a good thing that most x-ians I know are absolutely NOTHING like you.
They have tolerance, compassion, and open-mindedness. We atheists are not
all anti-religion, John. Actually, I don't know even one who *is*.
However, we sane human beings (religious or non) are anti-Lauzon, and
against other kooks like you. Where's your army of god-loving supporters in
the newsgroups, John? Why aren't they coming to your aid, backing up your
messages of intolerence? Oh, wait... I know. Many of them read what you
post, but they're all looking at you like you're in the corner of the room,
foaming at the mouth.
Now hurry up and accuse me of being a homosexual or an abortionist, then
shut the hell up.
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| User: "Stranger" |
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| Title: Re: My discussion with a Muslim |
28 Jan 2004 07:21:56 PM |
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"john(nospam)l" <"john(nospam)l"@tcn.net> wrote in message
news:_YYRb.6340$Ur.367211@localhost...
Daniel Kolle wrote:
"John Jukes" <JJukes-no-spam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<c3VwbGV4.85b61c1eaa42edb9d1b6b85b6008843b@1075304523.nulluser.com>...
All followers of Religions are basically fanatics. The original poster
should realize this.
Not necessarly. Some theists are casual in their belief.
By fanatic, what do you mean? Do you mean abortion clinic bombing and
sucide bombing fanatic? Few religious people are fanatic in that
sense.
Some religious people, however, are very devout. This devotion my seem
to fanaticism to some people, I guess.
...it seems that many, if not all atheist and non-believers, are
fanatical anti-religious hate mongers with the reasoning
capability and mentality of the KKK.
Atheists dont teach hate, let alone from books with fairy tails.
KKK are religious fanatic people, they dont even come close to Athiesm.
They use bibles as a legal way to torment people.
p.s. Athiests means non-religious, whats the "non-believers" standing for?
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| User: "Daniel Kolle" |
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| Title: Re: My discussion with a Muslim |
28 Jan 2004 08:23:50 PM |
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On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 20:00:28 -0500, "john(nospam)l"
<"john(nospam)l"@tcn.net> thought hard and said:
Daniel Kolle wrote:
"John Jukes" <JJukes-no-spam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<c3VwbGV4.85b61c1eaa42edb9d1b6b85b6008843b@1075304523.nulluser.com>...
All followers of Religions are basically fanatics. The original poster
should realize this.
Not necessarly. Some theists are casual in their belief.
By fanatic, what do you mean? Do you mean abortion clinic bombing and
sucide bombing fanatic? Few religious people are fanatic in that
sense.
Some religious people, however, are very devout. This devotion my seem
to fanaticism to some people, I guess.
...it seems that many, if not all atheist and non-believers, are
fanatical anti-religious hate mongers with the reasoning
capability and mentality of the KKK.
You, too, are generalizing.
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| User: "denrub" |
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| Title: Re: My discussion with a Muslim |
29 Jan 2004 12:25:52 PM |
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On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 20:00:28 -0500, "john(nospam)l"
<"john(nospam)l"@tcn.net> wrote:
...it seems that many, if not all atheist and non-believers, are
fanatical anti-religious hate mongers with the reasoning
capability and mentality of the KKK.
How much "reasoning" ability does it take to cut'n paste
"IgotnoLifeSite News" items?
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| User: "denrub" |
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| Title: Re: My discussion with a Muslim |
29 Jan 2004 12:40:22 AM |
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On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 20:00:28 -0500, "john(nospam)l"
<"john(nospam)l"@tcn.net> wrote:
Daniel Kolle wrote:
"John Jukes" <JJukes-no-spam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<c3VwbGV4.85b61c1eaa42edb9d1b6b85b6008843b@1075304523.nulluser.com>...
All followers of Religions are basically fanatics. The original poster
should realize this.
Not necessarly. Some theists are casual in their belief.
By fanatic, what do you mean? Do you mean abortion clinic bombing and
sucide bombing fanatic? Few religious people are fanatic in that
sense.
Some religious people, however, are very devout. This devotion my seem
to fanaticism to some people, I guess.
...it seems that many, if not all atheist and non-believers, are
fanatical anti-religious hate mongers with the reasoning
capability and mentality of the KKK.
The KKK requires members to be Christian.
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| User: "johnnospaml" |
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| Title: Re: My discussion with a Muslim |
29 Jan 2004 05:25:46 PM |
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denrub wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 20:00:28 -0500, "john(nospam)l"
<"john(nospam)l"@tcn.net> wrote:
Daniel Kolle wrote:
"John Jukes" <JJukes-no-spam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<c3VwbGV4.85b61c1eaa42edb9d1b6b85b6008843b@1075304523.nulluser.com>...
All followers of Religions are basically fanatics. The original poster
should realize this.
Not necessarly. Some theists are casual in their belief.
By fanatic, what do you mean? Do you mean abortion clinic bombing and
sucide bombing fanatic? Few religious people are fanatic in that
sense.
Some religious people, however, are very devout. This devotion my seem
to fanaticism to some people, I guess.
...it seems that many, if not all atheist and non-believers, are
fanatical anti-religious hate mongers with the reasoning
capability and mentality of the KKK.
The KKK requires members to be Christian.
....no, they require them to be like you.
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| User: "Blake" |
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| Title: Re: My discussion with a Muslim |
29 Jan 2004 05:35:43 PM |
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"john(nospam)l" <"john(nospam)l"@tcn.net> wrote in message
news:iGgSb.6515$Ur.373947@localhost...
denrub wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 20:00:28 -0500, "john(nospam)l"
<"john(nospam)l"@tcn.net> wrote:
Daniel Kolle wrote:
"John Jukes" <JJukes-no-spam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<c3VwbGV4.85b61c1eaa42edb9d1b6b85b6008843b@1075304523.nulluser.com>...
All followers of Religions are basically fanatics. The original poster
should realize this.
Not necessarly. Some theists are casual in their belief.
By fanatic, what do you mean? Do you mean abortion clinic bombing and
sucide bombing fanatic? Few religious people are fanatic in that
sense.
Some religious people, however, are very devout. This devotion my seem
to fanaticism to some people, I guess.
...it seems that many, if not all atheist and non-believers, are
fanatical anti-religious hate mongers with the reasoning
capability and mentality of the KKK.
The KKK requires members to be Christian.
...no, they require them to be like you.
For a good discussion on the KKK in Canada, you should check out
can.politics. Some guy tried to point out how the Western provinces were
had the only KKK clavens in Canada and then someone with more insight
brought up the cross burnings in Oakville in the '30's and stuff in SW
Ontario.
Way too much info.
Being of Christian birth but not faith, I prefer to see religious zealots of
all kinds enjoy their happy lives within the confines of their respective
Churches, Synagogues and Mosques and leave the rest of us who don't accept
the supernatural to live in common sense and not fairy tales.
As Joey Ramone once said:
THE KKK TOOK MY BABY AWAY Lyrics
She went away for the holidays
Said she's going to LA
But she never got there
She never got there's
She never got there, they say
She went away for the holidays
Said she's going to LA
But she never got there
She never got there,
She never got there, they say
The KKK took my baby away
They took her away, away from me
The KKK took my baby away
They took her away, away from me
Now I don't know where my baby can be
They took her from me they took her from me
I don't know where my baby can be
They took her from me they took her from me
Ring me, ring me, ring me up the president
And find out where my baby went
Ring me, ring me, ring me up the FBI
And find out if my baby's alive, yeah, yeah, yeah
Ooo... ooo... ooo...
She went away for holidays
Said she's going to LA
But she never got there
She never got there's
She never got there, they say
She went away for holidays
Said she's going to LA
But she never got there
She never got there's
She never got there, they say
The KKK took my baby away
They took her away, away from me
The KKK took my baby away
They took her away, away from me
The KKK took my baby away
They took her away, away from me
The KKK took my baby away
They took my girl, they took my baby away
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