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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" |
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28 Oct 2006 01:21:13 AM |
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Re: My reason I want |
Pax wrote:
"Mark T" <moi@09375963546864676755877579565567424> wrote in message
news:4542ae78$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
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Quoting the Bible is NOT quoting God.
Why?
Without the counsel of the Holy Spirit, Mark's interpretation of
Scripture will remain meaningless.
You quote atheists, agnostics, ignorant "learned" men, liars, simpletons and
yourself... ad infinitum, ad nauseam. You misquote the Bible for your own
amusement. God's words seem lacking where you're concerned however. Who is
God to you? Where do you find His words? How do you find Him? Do you ever
look?
Mark is "ever seeing but never perceiving."
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/758699d8bd036a60?
What if you are proven to be right in the end, and all of us "foolish
believers" are wrong? What if the Bible were just a book of fables written
by men with too much time on their hands and too many ulterior motives? What
if faith is futile and hope of taking part in God's Kingdom is a joke played
on idiots? What will you have gained? One day you, just as all the rest of
us, will take your last breath. Then what? Then nothing.
Nothing. And so much of your life spent fighting hope and cursing faith;
hating strangers, working so hard at cultivating enemies. So much time
wasted destroying your own chances at joy in this life, as you spend all
your time reading "fairy tales" you don't even enjoy, looking for your next
"good" argument in a battle of words with no real purpose past the battle
itself.
There are places where logic fails. There are times when logic damns... even
if that damnation is only in this life. But, for those cursed with too much
logic, Pascal's Wager seems the best bet, since if you're wrong in having
faith, you lose nothing in the end... but, if you're right...
Do you think a fool knows he's a fool? It would seem the last person able to
make that assessment would be the fool himself. I can't judge that about
myself. I can only have faith that God loves fools too, in case I happen to
be one. He's never required wisdom, only love, and even a fool can love
completely and without question.
Jesus is Lord - Pax
"Jesus is KING of kings and LORD of lords." -- Holy Spirit
Amen !
Laus Deo ! ! !
Marana tha ! ! ! ! ! ! !
May GOD continue to heal our hearts with HIS living water, dear sister
Sherri whom I love unconditionally.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew <><
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Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
As for knowing who are the very elect, these you will know by the
unconditional love they have for everyone including their enemies
(Matthew 5:44-45, 1 Corinthians 13:3, James 2:14-17).
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f4dad7fe68478acf?
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| User: "Pax" |
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| Title: Re: My reason I want |
31 Oct 2006 05:50:17 PM |
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"Kadaitcha Man" <*****-you.ya.*****@kiss-my-big-black-*****.com> wrote in
message news:4tw4uc$jw9$0@lax-love-bubbles.com.bz...
Pax <SherriFWhite@sbcglobal.net>, the supposititious caddy, objurgated:
"Kadaitcha Man" <*****-you.ya.*****@kiss-my-big-black-*****.com> wrote in
message news:x0h007$hj3$d@peaked-air-bags.com...
Pax <SherriFWhite@sbcglobal.net>, the herbal flaxdresser, spat out:
"Kadaitcha Man" <*****-you.ya.*****@kiss-my-big-black-*****.com> wrote
in message news:efx1th$fxr$c@inflexible-bubbies.org...
Pax <SherriFWhite@sbcglobal.net>, the sharpener of mill stones,
cawed:
"Kadaitcha Man" <*****-you.ya.*****@kiss-my-big-black-*****.com> wrote
in message news:t1amey$utx$4@miniature-twin-peaks.net...
Results 1 - 100 of about 765,000 English pages for are bees
conscious behavioural science. (0.34 seconds)
Happy reading. Don't come back any time soon.
Since it's your argument for... well, whatever reason... then
seems it's your interest to discover<BITCHSLAP>
Results 1 - 100 of about 765,000 English pages for are bees
conscious behavioural science. (0.34 seconds)
Happy reading. Don't come back any time soon.
LOL
Original thought isn't your long suit, is it?
Your utterly absurd pontifications are the echoes of slaps up the
side of the head bouncing around inside your hollow skull, not
original thought, you pillocking great nitwit.
Sorry, but you're becoming rather boring. B-bye now. <wave>
Real meaning: "I won't reply anymore therefore I win!"
You really don't get it<BITCHSLAP>
You're a veritable mine of very old lames.
, do you? There are no "winners" or "losers"
in these types of conversations. It's not a debate, because you
haven't really said anything, and I've given you plenty of
opportunities. In a debate, each person makes his point... or not.
That's about it, but it can be fun.
However, I really don't feel any need to have a meaningless one-sided
conversation with you that consists of nothing but brainless insults
from your side for some reason I'm not privy enough to figure out.
Will you do anything other than insult me? Doubtful. Will you offer
any substantial arguments to justify in any way your insults of me
and/or my comments? Doubtful. Do you actually know anything? Doubtful.
Your one and only gambit is insults. That's it. Your total
repertoire. If you don't realize how fast that becomes boring, you're
very young, or... well I won't go into the alternatives.
You want to talk. Talk. You want to debate, I'll try my best. You
want to insult. Go play with someone else.
Nice foamout, btw, Frothy.
Jesus is Lord - Pax
PS: Clever is not spelled p r i v y.
HTH & HAND
You just proved my point.
See my post before last.
Jesus is Lord - Pax
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| User: "Kadaitcha Man" |
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| Title: Re: My reason I want |
31 Oct 2006 05:54:34 PM |
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Pax <SherriFWhite@sbcglobal.net>, the boneless parchmenter, honked:
"Kadaitcha Man" <*****-you.ya.*****@kiss-my-big-black-*****.com> wrote in
message news:4tw4uc$jw9$0@lax-love-bubbles.com.bz...
Pax <SherriFWhite@sbcglobal.net>, the supposititious caddy,
objurgated:
"Kadaitcha Man" <*****-you.ya.*****@kiss-my-big-black-*****.com> wrote
in message news:x0h007$hj3$d@peaked-air-bags.com...
Pax <SherriFWhite@sbcglobal.net>, the herbal flaxdresser, spat out:
"Kadaitcha Man" <*****-you.ya.*****@kiss-my-big-black-*****.com> wrote
in message news:efx1th$fxr$c@inflexible-bubbies.org...
Pax <SherriFWhite@sbcglobal.net>, the sharpener of mill stones,
cawed:
"Kadaitcha Man" <*****-you.ya.*****@kiss-my-big-black-*****.com>
wrote in message news:t1amey$utx$4@miniature-twin-peaks.net...
Results 1 - 100 of about 765,000 English pages for are bees
conscious behavioural science. (0.34 seconds)
Happy reading. Don't come back any time soon.
Since it's your argument for... well, whatever reason... then
seems it's your interest to discover<BITCHSLAP>
Results 1 - 100 of about 765,000 English pages for are bees
conscious behavioural science. (0.34 seconds)
Happy reading. Don't come back any time soon.
LOL
Original thought isn't your long suit, is it?
Your utterly absurd pontifications are the echoes of slaps up the
side of the head bouncing around inside your hollow skull, not
original thought, you pillocking great nitwit.
Sorry, but you're becoming rather boring. B-bye now. <wave>
Real meaning: "I won't reply anymore therefore I win!"
You really don't get it<BITCHSLAP>
You're a veritable mine of very old lames.
, do you? There are no "winners" or "losers"
in these types of conversations. It's not a debate, because you
haven't really said anything, and I've given you plenty of
opportunities. In a debate, each person makes his point... or not.
That's about it, but it can be fun.
However, I really don't feel any need to have a meaningless
one-sided conversation with you that consists of nothing but
brainless insults from your side for some reason I'm not privy
enough to figure out. Will you do anything other than insult me?
Doubtful. Will you offer
any substantial arguments to justify in any way your insults of me
and/or my comments? Doubtful. Do you actually know anything?
Doubtful. Your one and only gambit is insults. That's it. Your total
repertoire. If you don't realize how fast that becomes boring,
you're very young, or... well I won't go into the alternatives.
You want to talk. Talk. You want to debate, I'll try my best. You
want to insult. Go play with someone else.
Nice foamout, btw, Frothy.
Jesus is Lord - Pax
PS: Clever is not spelled p r i v y.
HTH & HAND
You just proved my point.
I never mentioned the top of your head.
See my post before last.
You see it, you flapping great moron.
Jesus is Lord - Pax
--
alt.usenet.kooks - Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker:
September 2005 and April 2006
"K-Man's particular genius, however, lies not merely in his humour,
but his ability to make posters who had previously seemed reasonably
well-balanced turn into foaming, frothing, death threat-uttering
maniacs" - Snarky, Demon Lord of Confusion
"If the truth be known, the only reason Osama is still on the loose is
because he himself hasn't fallen victim to the K-Man." - Wog George
Thou bolting hutch of beastliness. Thou prating, rough-hewn one
deformed.
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| User: "lynx" |
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| Title: Re: My reason I want |
31 Oct 2006 06:17:23 PM |
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Pax wrote:
"Kadaitcha Man" <*****-you.ya.*****@kiss-my-big-black-*****.com> wrote in
message news:x0h007$hj3$d@peaked-air-bags.com...
Pax <SherriFWhite@sbcglobal.net>, the herbal flaxdresser, spat out:
"Kadaitcha Man" <*****-you.ya.*****@kiss-my-big-black-*****.com> wrote in
message news:efx1th$fxr$c@inflexible-bubbies.org...
Pax <SherriFWhite@sbcglobal.net>, the sharpener of mill stones,
cawed:
"Kadaitcha Man" <*****-you.ya.*****@kiss-my-big-black-*****.com> wrote
in message news:t1amey$utx$4@miniature-twin-peaks.net...
Results 1 - 100 of about 765,000 English pages for are bees
conscious behavioural science. (0.34 seconds)
Happy reading. Don't come back any time soon.
Since it's your argument for... well, whatever reason... then seems
it's your interest to discover<BITCHSLAP>
Results 1 - 100 of about 765,000 English pages for are bees conscious
behavioural science. (0.34 seconds)
Happy reading. Don't come back any time soon.
LOL
Original thought isn't your long suit, is it?
Your utterly absurd pontifications are the echoes of slaps up the side of
the head bouncing around inside your hollow skull, not original thought,
you pillocking great nitwit.
Sorry, but you're becoming rather boring. B-bye now. <wave>
Real meaning: "I won't reply anymore therefore I win!"
You really don't get it, do you? There are no "winners" or "losers" in these
types of conversations. It's not a debate, because you haven't really said
anything, and I've given you plenty of opportunities. In a debate, each
person makes his point... or not. That's about it, but it can be fun.
However, I really don't feel any need to have a meaningless one-sided
conversation with you that consists of nothing but brainless insults from
your side for some reason I'm not privy enough to figure out.
Will you do anything other than insult me? Doubtful. Will you offer any
substantial arguments to justify in any way your insults of me and/or my
comments? Doubtful. Do you actually know anything? Doubtful.
Your one and only gambit is insults. That's it. Your total repertoire. If
you don't realize how fast that becomes boring, you're very young, or...
well I won't go into the alternatives.
You want to talk. Talk. You want to debate, I'll try my best. You want to
insult. Go play with someone else.
Jesus is Lord - Pax
Well, what would you expect from alt.usenet.kooks ?
--
rgds,
Pete
=====
http://pw352.blogspot.com/
'Some people kiss with their eyes closed- then marry the same way!'
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| User: "Pax" |
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31 Oct 2006 06:29:12 PM |
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"lynx" <none@nothere.com> wrote in message
news:nIR1h.56651$rP1.3314@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Pax wrote:
"Kadaitcha Man" <*****-you.ya.*****@kiss-my-big-black-*****.com> wrote in
message news:x0h007$hj3$d@peaked-air-bags.com...
Pax <SherriFWhite@sbcglobal.net>, the herbal flaxdresser, spat out:
"Kadaitcha Man" <*****-you.ya.*****@kiss-my-big-black-*****.com> wrote in
message news:efx1th$fxr$c@inflexible-bubbies.org...
Pax <SherriFWhite@sbcglobal.net>, the sharpener of mill stones,
cawed:
"Kadaitcha Man" <*****-you.ya.*****@kiss-my-big-black-*****.com> wrote
in message news:t1amey$utx$4@miniature-twin-peaks.net...
Results 1 - 100 of about 765,000 English pages for are bees
conscious behavioural science. (0.34 seconds)
Happy reading. Don't come back any time soon.
Since it's your argument for... well, whatever reason... then seems
it's your interest to discover<BITCHSLAP>
Results 1 - 100 of about 765,000 English pages for are bees conscious
behavioural science. (0.34 seconds)
Happy reading. Don't come back any time soon.
LOL
Original thought isn't your long suit, is it?
Your utterly absurd pontifications are the echoes of slaps up the side
of
the head bouncing around inside your hollow skull, not original thought,
you pillocking great nitwit.
Sorry, but you're becoming rather boring. B-bye now. <wave>
Real meaning: "I won't reply anymore therefore I win!"
You really don't get it, do you? There are no "winners" or "losers" in
these types of conversations. It's not a debate, because you haven't
really said anything, and I've given you plenty of opportunities. In a
debate, each person makes his point... or not. That's about it, but it
can be fun.
However, I really don't feel any need to have a meaningless one-sided
conversation with you that consists of nothing but brainless insults from
your side for some reason I'm not privy enough to figure out.
Will you do anything other than insult me? Doubtful. Will you offer any
substantial arguments to justify in any way your insults of me and/or my
comments? Doubtful. Do you actually know anything? Doubtful.
Your one and only gambit is insults. That's it. Your total repertoire. If
you don't realize how fast that becomes boring, you're very young, or...
well I won't go into the alternatives.
You want to talk. Talk. You want to debate, I'll try my best. You want to
insult. Go play with someone else.
Jesus is Lord - Pax
Well, what would you expect from alt.usenet.kooks ?
So that's where he's posting from! Somehow, that's rather a disappointment
for me, someone should be much more interesting and a lot more fun before
they're allowed to earn the title of "kook". One thing's for sure, a kook
should *never* be boring. <grin>
rgds,
Pete
=====
http://pw352.blogspot.com/
'Some people kiss with their eyes closed- then marry the same way!'
Jesus is Lord - Pax
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| User: "Aratzio" |
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31 Oct 2006 06:32:04 PM |
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On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 00:17:23 GMT, lynx <none@nothere.com> got double
secret probation because:
Well, what would you expect from alt.usenet.kooks ?
The Spanish Inquisition.
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| User: "Enkidu" |
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31 Oct 2006 06:49:58 PM |
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Aratzio <a6ahlyv02@sneakemail.com> wrote in
news:nnqfk2966hgjbfgk9ksprlc1g18b0t84p1@4ax.com:
On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 00:17:23 GMT, lynx <none@nothere.com> got double
secret probation because:
Well, what would you expect from alt.usenet.kooks ?
The Spanish Inquisition.
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisistion.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
http://www.thoughts.leaddogs.org/
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
"I am very fond of truth, but not at all of martyrdom."
Voltaire (1694-1778) Letter to d'Alembert , August 20, 1770.
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| User: "Mark T moi@985789589745753432476988767465908974" |
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28 Oct 2006 08:03:55 PM |
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"Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
Point to an example somewhere to base such a fantasy on. Below you mention
pink unicorns and flying spaghetti monsters, both of those have something
from everyday life to draw on to begin the fantasy. What thing from
everyday
life was used to come up with the concept of God?
Initially, the gods were the sun and the moon, the seasons, the hearth,
the spirits of those who had lived before, the god of the hunt, of the
harvest, and of other very obvious manifestations of nature.
Yep! Sherri has obviously never read Joseph Campbell's "The Masks of God"
.... nor understood how Judaism (then Christianity) came into being. One
cannopt read one's contemporary views into ancient manusacripts.
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Quoting the Bible is NOT quoting God.
De t'ings dat yo li'ble to read in de Bible - It ain't necessarily so.
- Porgy and Bess (George Gershwin)
"We're Christians! We're not supposed to think!" Fanny Wype (Nudist Colony
Of The Dead)
"All things are probable. Try to believe." - Mark 17:1
"Really! Try to believe even if it's bloody stupid and irrational." - Mark
17:2
"Why? Because I said so, that's why! Don't ask questions. Just
believe." - Mark 17:3
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| User: "mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges" |
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28 Oct 2006 08:14:57 PM |
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In article <o8f7k21h96fp991ues52997n16r297dkao@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
What evidence do you have to support that partition? The mind appears to
be nothing more than self-awareness of brain activities and spirit
doesn't have any evidence at all.
Can you explain how self-awareness came about? The body is controlled by
electrochemical activities and other biochemical controls that are
outside the neuralogical system.
the brain and all its activities are yet beyond explanation
so anybody pretending they have definitive answers to the questions
is resorting to their own dogma
meow arf meow - they are performing horrible experiments in space
major grubert is watching you - beware the bakalite
there can only be one or two - the airtight garage has you neo
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| User: "Free Lunch" |
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28 Oct 2006 11:37:31 PM |
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On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 18:14:57 -0700, in alt.atheism
mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in
<mair_fheal-331BD4.18145728102006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>:
In article <o8f7k21h96fp991ues52997n16r297dkao@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
What evidence do you have to support that partition? The mind appears to
be nothing more than self-awareness of brain activities and spirit
doesn't have any evidence at all.
Can you explain how self-awareness came about? The body is controlled by
electrochemical activities and other biochemical controls that are
outside the neuralogical system.
the brain and all its activities are yet beyond explanation
so anybody pretending they have definitive answers to the questions
is resorting to their own dogma
Just because we don't understand everything in the brain, that doesn't
mean we don't understand anything about the brain.
meow arf meow - they are performing horrible experiments in space
major grubert is watching you - beware the bakalite
there can only be one or two - the airtight garage has you neo
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| User: "mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges" |
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28 Oct 2006 11:52:21 PM |
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In article <8vb8k21i931qlhdd5k6b0fqhmka8m0opfo@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 18:14:57 -0700, in alt.atheism
mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in
<mair_fheal-331BD4.18145728102006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>:
In article <o8f7k21h96fp991ues52997n16r297dkao@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
What evidence do you have to support that partition? The mind appears to
be nothing more than self-awareness of brain activities and spirit
doesn't have any evidence at all.
Can you explain how self-awareness came about? The body is controlled by
electrochemical activities and other biochemical controls that are
outside the neuralogical system.
the brain and all its activities are yet beyond explanation
so anybody pretending they have definitive answers to the questions
is resorting to their own dogma
Just because we don't understand everything in the brain, that doesn't
mean we don't understand anything about the brain.
show me the neuron the encodes self awareness
meow arf meow - they are performing horrible experiments in space
major grubert is watching you - beware the bakalite
there can only be one or two - the airtight garage has you neo
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| User: "Free Lunch" |
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| Title: Re: My reason I want |
28 Oct 2006 11:54:55 PM |
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On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 21:52:21 -0700, in alt.atheism
mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in
<mair_fheal-BC6F55.21522128102006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>:
In article <8vb8k21i931qlhdd5k6b0fqhmka8m0opfo@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 18:14:57 -0700, in alt.atheism
mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in
<mair_fheal-331BD4.18145728102006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>:
In article <o8f7k21h96fp991ues52997n16r297dkao@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
What evidence do you have to support that partition? The mind appears to
be nothing more than self-awareness of brain activities and spirit
doesn't have any evidence at all.
Can you explain how self-awareness came about? The body is controlled by
electrochemical activities and other biochemical controls that are
outside the neuralogical system.
the brain and all its activities are yet beyond explanation
so anybody pretending they have definitive answers to the questions
is resorting to their own dogma
Just because we don't understand everything in the brain, that doesn't
mean we don't understand anything about the brain.
show me the neuron the encodes self awareness
Why would you think that self-awareness is anything but an expected
emergent property of all complex brains?
meow arf meow - they are performing horrible experiments in space
major grubert is watching you - beware the bakalite
there can only be one or two - the airtight garage has you neo
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| User: "Kadaitcha Man" |
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| Title: Re: My reason I want |
29 Oct 2006 12:19:08 AM |
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Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>, the nervous magistrate, clamoured:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 21:52:21 -0700, in alt.atheism
mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in
<mair_fheal-BC6F55.21522128102006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>:
In article <8vb8k21i931qlhdd5k6b0fqhmka8m0opfo@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 18:14:57 -0700, in alt.atheism
mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in
<mair_fheal-331BD4.18145728102006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>:
In article <o8f7k21h96fp991ues52997n16r297dkao@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
What evidence do you have to support that partition? The mind
appears to be nothing more than self-awareness of brain
activities and spirit doesn't have any evidence at all.
Can you explain how self-awareness came about? The body is
controlled by
electrochemical activities and other biochemical controls that are
outside the neuralogical system.
the brain and all its activities are yet beyond explanation
so anybody pretending they have definitive answers to the questions
is resorting to their own dogma
Just because we don't understand everything in the brain, that
doesn't mean we don't understand anything about the brain.
show me the neuron the encodes self awareness
Why would you think that self-awareness is anything but an expected
emergent property of all complex brains?
Where in the challenge posed to you, you flapwitted fucktard, is there any
indication that poster believes what you pretend they might believe? Now,
deal with the challenge, fuckwad.
--
alt.usenet.kooks - Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker:
September 2005 and April 2006
"K-Man's particular genius, however, lies not merely in his humour,
but his ability to make posters who had previously seemed reasonably
well-balanced turn into foaming, frothing, death threat-uttering
maniacs" - Snarky, Demon Lord of Confusion
Thou doghearted nut. Thou rotting reverent braggart.
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| User: "Free Lunch" |
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29 Oct 2006 08:57:50 AM |
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On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 11:04:08 +0545, in alt.atheism
"Kadaitcha Man" <*****-you.ya.*****@kiss-my-big-black-*****.com> wrote in
<qrak79$qi1$w@inconsiderable-kumquats.net>:
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>, the nervous magistrate, clamoured:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 21:52:21 -0700, in alt.atheism
mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in
<mair_fheal-BC6F55.21522128102006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>:
In article <8vb8k21i931qlhdd5k6b0fqhmka8m0opfo@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 18:14:57 -0700, in alt.atheism
mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in
<mair_fheal-331BD4.18145728102006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>:
In article <o8f7k21h96fp991ues52997n16r297dkao@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
What evidence do you have to support that partition? The mind
appears to be nothing more than self-awareness of brain
activities and spirit doesn't have any evidence at all.
Can you explain how self-awareness came about? The body is
controlled by
electrochemical activities and other biochemical controls that are
outside the neuralogical system.
the brain and all its activities are yet beyond explanation
so anybody pretending they have definitive answers to the questions
is resorting to their own dogma
Just because we don't understand everything in the brain, that
doesn't mean we don't understand anything about the brain.
show me the neuron the encodes self awareness
Why would you think that self-awareness is anything but an expected
emergent property of all complex brains?
Where in the challenge posed to you, you flapwitted fucktard, is there any
indication that poster believes what you pretend they might believe? Now,
deal with the challenge, fuckwad.
Neurons don't encode self-awareness. The question didn't make sense. You
apparently couldn't understand that.
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| Title: Re: My reason I want |
29 Oct 2006 09:02:17 AM |
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Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>, the hoary siever, gnawed:
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 11:04:08 +0545, in alt.atheism
"Kadaitcha Man" <*****-you.ya.*****@kiss-my-big-black-*****.com> wrote in
<qrak79$qi1$w@inconsiderable-kumquats.net>:
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>, the nervous magistrate, clamoured:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 21:52:21 -0700, in alt.atheism
mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in
<mair_fheal-BC6F55.21522128102006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>:
In article <8vb8k21i931qlhdd5k6b0fqhmka8m0opfo@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 18:14:57 -0700, in alt.atheism
mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in
<mair_fheal-331BD4.18145728102006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>:
In article <o8f7k21h96fp991ues52997n16r297dkao@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
What evidence do you have to support that partition? The mind
appears to be nothing more than self-awareness of brain
activities and spirit doesn't have any evidence at all.
Can you explain how self-awareness came about? The body is
controlled by
electrochemical activities and other biochemical controls that
are outside the neuralogical system.
the brain and all its activities are yet beyond explanation
so anybody pretending they have definitive answers to the
questions is resorting to their own dogma
Just because we don't understand everything in the brain, that
doesn't mean we don't understand anything about the brain.
show me the neuron the encodes self awareness
Why would you think that self-awareness is anything but an expected
emergent property of all complex brains?
Where in the challenge posed to you, you flapwitted fucktard, is
there any indication that poster believes what you pretend they
might believe? Now, deal with the challenge, fuckwad.
Neurons don't encode self-awareness. The question didn't make sense.
You apparently couldn't understand that.
And still you have not answered the question. Wasn't it you who just bitched
and bleated at someone over not providing a testable response? I'm sure it
was.
--
alt.usenet.kooks - Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker:
September 2005 and April 2006
"K-Man's particular genius, however, lies not merely in his humour,
but his ability to make posters who had previously seemed reasonably
well-balanced turn into foaming, frothing, death threat-uttering
maniacs" - Snarky, Demon Lord of Confusion
"If the truth be known, the only reason Osama is still on the loose is
because he himself hasn't fallen victim to the K-Man." - Wog George
Thou store of muttons. Thou goatish, abhorrent lucifer.
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| User: "mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges" |
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29 Oct 2006 09:21:01 AM |
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In article <cag9k2lup5c6maf3j28gip9otjiks08irq@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 11:04:08 +0545, in alt.atheism
"Kadaitcha Man" <*****-you.ya.*****@kiss-my-big-black-*****.com> wrote in
<qrak79$qi1$w@inconsiderable-kumquats.net>:
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>, the nervous magistrate, clamoured:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 21:52:21 -0700, in alt.atheism
mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in
<mair_fheal-BC6F55.21522128102006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>:
In article <8vb8k21i931qlhdd5k6b0fqhmka8m0opfo@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 18:14:57 -0700, in alt.atheism
mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in
<mair_fheal-331BD4.18145728102006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>:
In article <o8f7k21h96fp991ues52997n16r297dkao@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
What evidence do you have to support that partition? The mind
appears to be nothing more than self-awareness of brain
activities and spirit doesn't have any evidence at all.
Can you explain how self-awareness came about? The body is
controlled by
electrochemical activities and other biochemical controls that are
outside the neuralogical system.
the brain and all its activities are yet beyond explanation
so anybody pretending they have definitive answers to the questions
is resorting to their own dogma
Just because we don't understand everything in the brain, that
doesn't mean we don't understand anything about the brain.
show me the neuron the encodes self awareness
Why would you think that self-awareness is anything but an expected
emergent property of all complex brains?
Where in the challenge posed to you, you flapwitted fucktard, is there any
indication that poster believes what you pretend they might believe? Now,
deal with the challenge, fuckwad.
Neurons don't encode self-awareness. The question didn't make sense. You
apparently couldn't understand that.
then what does encode self awareness? the glia? the dura mater?
since i believe of the human soul
i dont have a problem claiming there is something nonphysical
to the human mind
but if you believe the brain is all there is
than the everything attribued to mind spirit or brain
has to be to expressed in neuron wirings and firings
meow arf meow - they are performing horrible experiments in space
major grubert is watching you - beware the bakalite
there can only be one or two - the airtight garage has you neo
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| User: "Free Lunch" |
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| Title: Re: My reason I want |
29 Oct 2006 09:14:35 PM |
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On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 07:21:01 -0800, in alt.atheism
mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in
<mair_fheal-DF3175.07205929102006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>:
In article <cag9k2lup5c6maf3j28gip9otjiks08irq@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 11:04:08 +0545, in alt.atheism
"Kadaitcha Man" <*****-you.ya.*****@kiss-my-big-black-*****.com> wrote in
<qrak79$qi1$w@inconsiderable-kumquats.net>:
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>, the nervous magistrate, clamoured:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 21:52:21 -0700, in alt.atheism
mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in
<mair_fheal-BC6F55.21522128102006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>:
In article <8vb8k21i931qlhdd5k6b0fqhmka8m0opfo@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 18:14:57 -0700, in alt.atheism
mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in
<mair_fheal-331BD4.18145728102006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>:
In article <o8f7k21h96fp991ues52997n16r297dkao@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
What evidence do you have to support that partition? The mind
appears to be nothing more than self-awareness of brain
activities and spirit doesn't have any evidence at all.
Can you explain how self-awareness came about? The body is
controlled by
electrochemical activities and other biochemical controls that are
outside the neuralogical system.
the brain and all its activities are yet beyond explanation
so anybody pretending they have definitive answers to the questions
is resorting to their own dogma
Just because we don't understand everything in the brain, that
doesn't mean we don't understand anything about the brain.
show me the neuron the encodes self awareness
Why would you think that self-awareness is anything but an expected
emergent property of all complex brains?
Where in the challenge posed to you, you flapwitted fucktard, is there any
indication that poster believes what you pretend they might believe? Now,
deal with the challenge, fuckwad.
Neurons don't encode self-awareness. The question didn't make sense. You
apparently couldn't understand that.
then what does encode self awareness? the glia? the dura mater?
Nothing.
since i believe of the human soul
i dont have a problem claiming there is something nonphysical
to the human mind
but if you believe the brain is all there is
than the everything attribued to mind spirit or brain
has to be to expressed in neuron wirings and firings
meow arf meow - they are performing horrible experiments in space
major grubert is watching you - beware the bakalite
there can only be one or two - the airtight garage has you neo
.
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| User: "mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges" |
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| Title: Re: My reason I want |
29 Oct 2006 10:43:03 PM |
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In article <fgrak2hfgkjoag3lpit8ma2p590vl35o1k@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 07:21:01 -0800, in alt.atheism
mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in
<mair_fheal-DF3175.07205929102006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>:
In article <cag9k2lup5c6maf3j28gip9otjiks08irq@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 11:04:08 +0545, in alt.atheism
"Kadaitcha Man" <*****-you.ya.*****@kiss-my-big-black-*****.com> wrote in
<qrak79$qi1$w@inconsiderable-kumquats.net>:
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>, the nervous magistrate, clamoured:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 21:52:21 -0700, in alt.atheism
mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in
<mair_fheal-BC6F55.21522128102006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>:
In article <8vb8k21i931qlhdd5k6b0fqhmka8m0opfo@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 18:14:57 -0700, in alt.atheism
mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in
<mair_fheal-331BD4.18145728102006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>:
In article <o8f7k21h96fp991ues52997n16r297dkao@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
What evidence do you have to support that partition? The mind
appears to be nothing more than self-awareness of brain
activities and spirit doesn't have any evidence at all.
Can you explain how self-awareness came about? The body is
controlled by
electrochemical activities and other biochemical controls that are
outside the neuralogical system.
the brain and all its activities are yet beyond explanation
so anybody pretending they have definitive answers to the questions
is resorting to their own dogma
Just because we don't understand everything in the brain, that
doesn't mean we don't understand anything about the brain.
show me the neuron the encodes self awareness
Why would you think that self-awareness is anything but an expected
emergent property of all complex brains?
Where in the challenge posed to you, you flapwitted fucktard, is there
any
indication that poster believes what you pretend they might believe? Now,
deal with the challenge, fuckwad.
Neurons don't encode self-awareness. The question didn't make sense. You
apparently couldn't understand that.
then what does encode self awareness? the glia? the dura mater?
Nothing.
then it doesnt exist? you are not aware of yourself?
meow arf meow - they are performing horrible experiments in space
major grubert is watching you - beware the bakalite
there can only be one or two - the airtight garage has you neo
.
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| Title: Re: My reason I want |
29 Oct 2006 11:29:52 PM |
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On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 20:43:03 -0800, in alt.atheism
mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in
<mair_fheal-C3DCAB.20430329102006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>:
In article <fgrak2hfgkjoag3lpit8ma2p590vl35o1k@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 07:21:01 -0800, in alt.atheism
mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in
<mair_fheal-DF3175.07205929102006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>:
In article <cag9k2lup5c6maf3j28gip9otjiks08irq@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 11:04:08 +0545, in alt.atheism
"Kadaitcha Man" <*****-you.ya.*****@kiss-my-big-black-*****.com> wrote in
<qrak79$qi1$w@inconsiderable-kumquats.net>:
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>, the nervous magistrate, clamoured:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 21:52:21 -0700, in alt.atheism
mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in
<mair_fheal-BC6F55.21522128102006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>:
In article <8vb8k21i931qlhdd5k6b0fqhmka8m0opfo@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 18:14:57 -0700, in alt.atheism
mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in
<mair_fheal-331BD4.18145728102006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>:
In article <o8f7k21h96fp991ues52997n16r297dkao@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
What evidence do you have to support that partition? The mind
appears to be nothing more than self-awareness of brain
activities and spirit doesn't have any evidence at all.
Can you explain how self-awareness came about? The body is
controlled by
electrochemical activities and other biochemical controls that are
outside the neuralogical system.
the brain and all its activities are yet beyond explanation
so anybody pretending they have definitive answers to the questions
is resorting to their own dogma
Just because we don't understand everything in the brain, that
doesn't mean we don't understand anything about the brain.
show me the neuron the encodes self awareness
Why would you think that self-awareness is anything but an expected
emergent property of all complex brains?
Where in the challenge posed to you, you flapwitted fucktard, is there
any
indication that poster believes what you pretend they might believe? Now,
deal with the challenge, fuckwad.
Neurons don't encode self-awareness. The question didn't make sense. You
apparently couldn't understand that.
then what does encode self awareness? the glia? the dura mater?
Nothing.
then it doesnt exist? you are not aware of yourself?
Self-awareness exists for a number of species. It isn't encoded, but a
result.
meow arf meow - they are performing horrible experiments in space
major grubert is watching you - beware the bakalite
there can only be one or two - the airtight garage has you neo
.
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| User: "mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges" |
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| Title: Re: My reason I want |
30 Oct 2006 12:33:06 AM |
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In article <2d3bk2p1dcr753dafblnpc8ujkb0bme6n5@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 20:43:03 -0800, in alt.atheism
mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in
<mair_fheal-C3DCAB.20430329102006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>:
In article <fgrak2hfgkjoag3lpit8ma2p590vl35o1k@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 07:21:01 -0800, in alt.atheism
mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in
<mair_fheal-DF3175.07205929102006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>:
In article <cag9k2lup5c6maf3j28gip9otjiks08irq@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 11:04:08 +0545, in alt.atheism
"Kadaitcha Man" <*****-you.ya.*****@kiss-my-big-black-*****.com> wrote in
<qrak79$qi1$w@inconsiderable-kumquats.net>:
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>, the nervous magistrate, clamoured:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 21:52:21 -0700, in alt.atheism
mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in
<mair_fheal-BC6F55.21522128102006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>:
In article <8vb8k21i931qlhdd5k6b0fqhmka8m0opfo@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 18:14:57 -0700, in alt.atheism
mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in
<mair_fheal-331BD4.18145728102006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>:
In article <o8f7k21h96fp991ues52997n16r297dkao@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
What evidence do you have to support that partition? The mind
appears to be nothing more than self-awareness of brain
activities and spirit doesn't have any evidence at all.
Can you explain how self-awareness came about? The body is
controlled by
electrochemical activities and other biochemical controls that
are
outside the neuralogical system.
the brain and all its activities are yet beyond explanation
so anybody pretending they have definitive answers to the
questions
is resorting to their own dogma
Just because we don't understand everything in the brain, that
doesn't mean we don't understand anything about the brain.
show me the neuron the encodes self awareness
Why would you think that self-awareness is anything but an expected
emergent property of all complex brains?
Where in the challenge posed to you, you flapwitted fucktard, is there
any
indication that poster believes what you pretend they might believe?
Now,
deal with the challenge, fuckwad.
Neurons don't encode self-awareness. The question didn't make sense.
You
apparently couldn't understand that.
then what does encode self awareness? the glia? the dura mater?
Nothing.
then it doesnt exist? you are not aware of yourself?
Self-awareness exists for a number of species. It isn't encoded, but a
result.
so now youre talking invisible essence and unseen presences
meow arf meow - they are performing horrible experiments in space
major grubert is watching you - beware the bakalite
there can only be one or two - the airtight garage has you neo
.
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| User: "Free Lunch" |
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| Title: Re: My reason I want |
30 Oct 2006 06:46:22 AM |
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On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 22:33:06 -0800, in alt.atheism
mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in
<mair_fheal-4F0B1C.22330629102006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>:
In article <2d3bk2p1dcr753dafblnpc8ujkb0bme6n5@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 20:43:03 -0800, in alt.atheism
mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in
<mair_fheal-C3DCAB.20430329102006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>:
In article <fgrak2hfgkjoag3lpit8ma2p590vl35o1k@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 07:21:01 -0800, in alt.atheism
mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in
<mair_fheal-DF3175.07205929102006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>:
In article <cag9k2lup5c6maf3j28gip9otjiks08irq@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 11:04:08 +0545, in alt.atheism
"Kadaitcha Man" <*****-you.ya.*****@kiss-my-big-black-*****.com> wrote in
<qrak79$qi1$w@inconsiderable-kumquats.net>:
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>, the nervous magistrate, clamoured:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 21:52:21 -0700, in alt.atheism
mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in
<mair_fheal-BC6F55.21522128102006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>:
In article <8vb8k21i931qlhdd5k6b0fqhmka8m0opfo@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 18:14:57 -0700, in alt.atheism
mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in
<mair_fheal-331BD4.18145728102006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>:
In article <o8f7k21h96fp991ues52997n16r297dkao@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
What evidence do you have to support that partition? The mind
appears to be nothing more than self-awareness of brain
activities and spirit doesn't have any evidence at all.
Can you explain how self-awareness came about? The body is
controlled by
electrochemical activities and other biochemical controls that
are
outside the neuralogical system.
the brain and all its activities are yet beyond explanation
so anybody pretending they have definitive answers to the
questions
is resorting to their own dogma
Just because we don't understand everything in the brain, that
doesn't mean we don't understand anything about the brain.
show me the neuron the encodes self awareness
Why would you think that self-awareness is anything but an expected
emergent property of all complex brains?
Where in the challenge posed to you, you flapwitted fucktard, is there
any
indication that poster believes what you pretend they might believe?
Now,
deal with the challenge, fuckwad.
Neurons don't encode self-awareness. The question didn't make sense.
You
apparently couldn't understand that.
then what does encode self awareness? the glia? the dura mater?
Nothing.
then it doesnt exist? you are not aware of yourself?
Self-awareness exists for a number of species. It isn't encoded, but a
result.
so now youre talking invisible essence and unseen presences
Nope. Don't assume that self-awareness is something special, just
because humans do it.
meow arf meow - they are performing horrible experiments in space
major grubert is watching you - beware the bakalite
there can only be one or two - the airtight garage has you neo
.
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| User: "mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges" |
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| Title: Re: My reason I want |
30 Oct 2006 07:51:51 AM |
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In article <hvsbk2hec0mfc7sqj6dihgnp9td5j46ab3@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
Nope. Don't assume that self-awareness is something special, just
because humans do it.
you continue to evade the suject for some reason
if you assume this is only a material universe
then everything is composed of only matter and energy
and so any property you care to ascribe to a system
must exist as some tracery of stone matter or energy
if self awareness is not attributed to particular neuron or neural circuit
then you have to attribute it to some pattern of signals
which exists ultimately as a coordinated sequence
of neural transmitter release-reception at synapses
and ion channels opening and ion pumps reionizing the cells
material objects
if self awareness does not exist then you are not self aware
if you are self aware show me where it exists
so that you can prove that only the material universe exists
meow arf meow - they are performing horrible experiments in space
major grubert is watching you - beware the bakalite
there can only be one or two - the airtight garage has you neo
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| User: "Free Lunch" |
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| Title: Re: My reason I want |
30 Oct 2006 05:11:10 PM |
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On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 05:51:51 -0800, in alt.atheism
mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in
<mair_fheal-69F4C4.05515130102006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>:
In article <hvsbk2hec0mfc7sqj6dihgnp9td5j46ab3@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
Nope. Don't assume that self-awareness is something special, just
because humans do it.
you continue to evade the suject for some reason
Nope. I continue to notice that your assumptions are unsupported. When
you can show that there is something biologically special about
self-awareness, then you will have a discussion. Until then, it's just
another result of life.
if you assume this is only a material universe
then everything is composed of only matter and energy
and so any property you care to ascribe to a system
must exist as some tracery of stone matter or energy
Given the evidence, it's the only rational conclusion. If you have
evidence to the contrary, offer it.
if self awareness is not attributed to particular neuron or neural circuit
It isn't.
then you have to attribute it to some pattern of signals
which exists ultimately as a coordinated sequence
of neural transmitter release-reception at synapses
and ion channels opening and ion pumps reionizing the cells
material objects
You still act as if self-awareness is something special. If you want to
persuade me, you need to provide evidence, not merely assertions.
if self awareness does not exist then you are not self aware
No one claimed it did not exist.
if you are self aware show me where it exists
so that you can prove that only the material universe exists
It exists as a part of life in organisms with complex neurological
systems.
meow arf meow - they are performing horrible experiments in space
major grubert is watching you - beware the bakalite
there can only be one or two - the airtight garage has you neo
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| User: "mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges" |
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| Title: Re: My reason I want |
30 Oct 2006 05:43:39 PM |
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if you assume this is only a material universe
then everything is composed of only matter and energy
and so any property you care to ascribe to a system
must exist as some tracery of stone matter or energy
Given the evidence, it's the only rational conclusion. If you have
evidence to the contrary, offer it.
if self awareness is not attributed to particular neuron or neural circuit
It isn't.
do you often contradict yourself so quickly?
You still act as if self-awareness is something special. If you want to
persuade me, you need to provide evidence, not merely assertions.
you are the one try to evade the issue
meow arf meow - they are performing horrible experiments in space
major grubert is watching you - beware the bakalite
there can only be one or two - the airtight garage has you neo
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| User: "The Demon Prince of Absurdity" |
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| Title: Re: My reason I want |
31 Oct 2006 11:56:27 PM |
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On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 15:43:39 -0800, mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten
tomys des anges did the cha-cha, and screamed:
if you assume this is only a material universe then everything is
composed of only matter and energy and so any property you care to
ascribe to a system must exist as some tracery of stone matter or
energy
Given the evidence, it's the only rational conclusion. If you have
evidence to the contrary, offer it.
if self awareness is not attributed to particular neuron or neural
circuit
It isn't.
do you often contradict yourself so quickly?
If you want TRVTH, it's in a box over there. ----->
Personally, I think it's a load of old toss, but whatever.
Self-contradiction is itself a sign of higher intelligence, though not
always a sign of high intellect. Except when it is. See?
You still act as if self-awareness is something special. If you want to
persuade me, you need to provide evidence, not merely assertions.
you are the one try to evade the issue
I think a certain pair of blind men are arguing over two different parts
of an elephant...
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| User: "Kadaitcha Man" |
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| Title: Re: My reason I want |
01 Nov 2006 01:42:30 AM |
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The Demon Prince of Absurdity <absurd_number_of_nicks@hell.corn>, the
waterproof leggings maker, discharged:
On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 15:43:39 -0800, mariposas rand mair fheal
greykitten tomys des anges did the cha-cha, and screamed:
you are the one try to evade the issue
I think a certain pair of blind men are arguing over two different
parts of an elephant...
Want to find out which end did you get stuck with, mate?
Does your arm feel warm and wet, and stink of hay? Or does your arm feel
warm and wet, and stink of hay?
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because he himself hasn't fallen victim to the K-Man." - Wog George
Thou viperous worm. Thou putrefying, bloodsucking tedious
stumbling-block.
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| User: "Barry OGrady" |
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| Title: Re: My reason I want |
30 Oct 2006 05:54:42 PM |
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On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 05:51:51 -0800, mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <hvsbk2hec0mfc7sqj6dihgnp9td5j46ab3@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
Nope. Don't assume that self-awareness is something special, just
because humans do it.
you continue to evade the suject for some reason
if you assume this is only a material universe
then everything is composed of only matter and energy
and so any property you care to ascribe to a system
must exist as some tracery of stone matter or energy
That does seem to be the case.
if self awareness is not attributed to particular neuron or neural circuit
then you have to attribute it to some pattern of signals
which exists ultimately as a coordinated sequence
of neural transmitter release-reception at synapses
and ion channels opening and ion pumps reionizing the cells
material objects
if self awareness does not exist then you are not self aware
if you are self aware show me where it exists
so that you can prove that only the material universe exists
An MRI would probably show that.
Barry
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Home page
http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og
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| User: "mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges" |
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| Title: Re: My reason I want |
30 Oct 2006 05:47:06 PM |
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if self awareness does not exist then you are not self aware
if you are self aware show me where it exists
so that you can prove that only the material universe exists
An MRI would probably show that.
http://images.google.com/images?q=brain+mri
show me
meow arf meow - they are performing horrible experiments in space
major grubert is watching you - beware the bakalite
there can only be one or two - the airtight garage has you neo
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| User: "Barry OGrady" |
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| Title: Re: My reason I want |
30 Oct 2006 10:40:22 PM |
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On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 15:47:06 -0800, mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote:
if self awareness does not exist then you are not self aware
if you are self aware show me where it exists
so that you can prove that only the material universe exists
An MRI would probably show that.
http://images.google.com/images?q=brain+mri
show me
http://images.google.com/images?q=brain+mri
Barry
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Home page
http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og
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| User: "mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges" |
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| Title: Re: My reason I want |
28 Oct 2006 11:59:02 PM |
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In article <jvc8k2hvldgmc75gecd23kqm7qlnh4hu4d@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 21:52:21 -0700, in alt.atheism
mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in
<mair_fheal-BC6F55.21522128102006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>:
In article <8vb8k21i931qlhdd5k6b0fqhmka8m0opfo@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 18:14:57 -0700, in alt.atheism
mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges
<mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in
<mair_fheal-331BD4.18145728102006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>:
In article <o8f7k21h96fp991ues52997n16r297dkao@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
What evidence do you have to support that partition? The mind
appears to
be nothing more than self-awareness of brain activities and spirit
doesn't have any evidence at all.
Can you explain how self-awareness came about? The body is controlled
by
electrochemical activities and other biochemical controls that are
outside the neuralogical system.
the brain and all its activities are yet beyond explanation
so anybody pretending they have definitive answers to the questions
is resorting to their own dogma
Just because we don't understand everything in the brain, that doesn't
mean we don't understand anything about the brain.
show me the neuron the encodes self awareness
Why would you think that self-awareness is anything but an expected
emergent property of all complex brains?
expected? expected?
expected?
you believe you have system that will have answer the question eventually
but it is unable to answer the question today
thats just your way of saying dogma
if you want to avoid dogma just accept the limits of your knowledge
and say simply -i dont know-
meow arf meow - they are performing horrible experiments in space
major grubert is watching you - beware the bakalite
there can only be one or two - the airtight garage has you neo
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| User: "Mark T moi@985789589745753432476988767465908974" |
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| Title: Re: My reason I want |
28 Oct 2006 07:41:53 PM |
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"Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
Every man is one in three: body, mind and spirit.
What evidence do you have to support that partition?
Nil!
The mind appears to be nothing more than self-awareness of brain
activities and spirit
doesn't have any evidence at all.
Mind and spirit are the same.
Without any one of those
elements, a man is not complete and can't live.
How would anyone know if a spirit went missing?
You wouldn't as mind / spirit includes consciousness.
Of the three elements that make us up, in a way the body is the least,
since
it's whole purpose is merely to carry out the will of the mind and spirit.
Yet, if you have seen the body, you have seen the mind and spirit.
Does this mean something?
Nope.
This is the God that supposedly murdered everyone on earth except for
eight people?
.... only according to the Bible.
Value truth over the bible.
"De t'ings dat yo li'ble to read in de Bible - It ain't necessarily so."
- Porgy and Bess (George Gershwin)
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