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User:	"George Hammond"
Date:	07 Sep 2006 08:20:14 PM
Object:	Re: MYSTERIOUS TIME DILATION IN DREAMS ?

On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 21:07:01 GMT, George Hammond
<nowhere1@notspam.org> wrote:
On 7 Sep 2006 06:36:35 -0700, "shevek" <shevek4@yahoo.com>
wrote:
< BIG SNIP >

[Hammond]
Yeah... well that's the problem... you have no competency
in Relativity apparently.

[shevek]
Funny thing, all my relativity courses and papers haven't included
study of "biological growth".

[Hammond]
Relativity courses deal with THEORETICAL physics--
theoretical physicists are supposed to be able to "do"
applied physics" w/o any special training doncha know.
<SNIP>

[shevek]
God is "what"?.

[Hammond]
I'll repeat it again for you:

.................................................................
DEFINITION OF GOD

"God" so called (i.e. the God of the Bible for instance)
is in fact a "curvature of Psychometric space" meaning it
is a "magnification and speeding up" of (subjective)
spacetime which makes the world look "bigger and faster"
than it actually is... and this phenomea is universally
called "GOD"
.................................................................

[shevek]
You haven't proven that god is anything. You have defined the word, in
such a way that almost nobody will agree with your definition. How is
that productive?

[Hammond]
Will you please go to the blackboard and write
100 times:
There is no such thing as a "definition of God"
there is only a "physical description of God" and
this is so because God is a physical phenomenon
not an arbitratry convention as commonly supposed.
As a matter of fact, the PHYSICAL DESCRIPTION of
God is contained in the 1,333 pages of the King
James Bible for instance.
... ALL I AM CLAIMING.... is that this historic
PHYSICAL DESCRIPTION OF GOD has now been
scientifically explained, confirmed and PROVEN
and PEER-PUBLISHED by HAMMOND as being
caused by a "curvature of subjerctive spacetime"
(Caused by the Secular Trend in braingrowth)
and the existence of this curvature (which is God)
has been measured to two decimal point accuracy
using the published data existing in 75 years of
Psychometry, Biology, Neuropsychology and General
Relativity data..... and has in fact been published
by Hammond in the peer reviewed literature in
2003... copy of said publlshed paper is posted at
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god/Hammond5s1.html
for your reading convenience.

[shevek]
And which one?

[Hammond]
Don't be stupid... whaddau mean "which one"...
certainly there can't be more than ONE
SUBJECTIVE CURVATURE OF SPACETIME
CAUSED BY BRAINGROWTH......

OBVIOUSLY THEN

THERE IS ONLY ONE "GOD"

[shevek]
Why not? A subjective curvature of spacetime is caused by e.g. several
thousand different phenethylamines when they are in your nervous
system. Each one could be a god by your definition.

[Hammond]
Look Shevek.... we're here to talk about the FOREST
NOT THE TREES!
For example a 9 year old is only HALF GROWN which means
his world is TWICE AS BIG AND TWICE AS FAST as your
world.... and HAMMOND has proven and published that this is
because his world has TWICE THE (SUBJECTIVE) CURVATURE that
your world has and that this is PROVEABLY caused by the fact
that his BRAIN is only HALF GROWN and therefore his MENTAL
SPEED is only half what yours is (50% TIME DILATION) and
that objects are TWICE AS BIG to him as they are to you (50%
length contraction)... and this phenomenon EXPLAINS GOD AND
THE ENTIRE BIBLE..........thus, "God and the entire Bible"
is shown, ("Proved") to be caused by a "classical metrical
curvature of subjective spacetime caused by braingrowth".
Of singular importance is that NO ONE ever reaches "full
growth" so that therefore, the world looks BIGGER AND FASTER
to everyone..... or "everyone is subject to God" as the
theologians put it.
NOW........... we don't need to sit here and sing:
... the shin bone is connected to the thigh bone,
and the thigh bone is connected to the hip bone...
nor do we need to discuss "a thousand phenotymines
either...!

[shevek]
Those are the questions I want
answered.

[Hammond]
I JUST ANSWERED THEM.....!

I'VE ANSWERED THEM A THOUSAND TIMES ON USENET ...!

WHADAU WANT ME TO DO PLAY A RECORDING OF MY
ANSWER OVER AND OVER A MILLION TIMES..,. ?

[shevek]
You may be interested in the quantized one dimensional "Satori"
psychometry scheme (e.g.

http://www.syti.net/GB/PVELillyLevelsGB.html

but this is openly acknowledged as a gross simplification.

[Hammond]
Look the scientific proof of God I've discovered and
published is based on 150 YEARS OF MAINSTREAM
PUBLISHED RESEARCH IN:

Biology (Roux, Conklin, Owen......)
Neurolopsychology (Bell-Magendie, Sperry.....)
Psychometry (Eyesenck, Cattell, Thurstone....)
Relativity (Einstein,
Freidman,Schwarzchild....)

[shevek]
Why do you insist on using the word proof, without any provable
statement after it?

[Hammond]
The "proveable statemnt" (the scientific proof of God")
has
BEEN REPEATED IN YOUR FACE
A THOUSAND TIMES........."
PLEASE READ MY LIPS IF YOU ARE
HARD OF HEARING:
..................................................................
D-E-S-C-R-I-P-T-I-O-N OF GOD
"God" so called (i.e. the God of the Bible for instance)
is in fact a "curvature of Psychometric space" meaning it
is a "magnification and speeding up" of (subjective)
spacetime which makes the world look "bigger and faster"
than it actually is... and this phenomea is universally
called "GOD".... and this scientific explanation
EXPLAINS GOD AND THE ENTIRE BIBLE......
and naturally therefore constitutes a
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD, SO CALLED!
..................................................................

[shevek]
You have defined "God".. now what are you going to prove about it?

[Hammond]
[I just told you there is NO SUCH THING
AS A DEFINITION OF GOD..... there is only
a REAL PHYSICAL EXPLANATION OF GOD...
and thatREAK OHYSICAL EXPLANATION OF GOD
is what I have discovered, proven
and published. READ MY LIPS!!!

Publications by world famous scientists in
THOUSANDS of peer reviewed papers.....

I don'tpay attention to off the wall nuts who aren't
published in the peer reviewed literature..!

BY THE WAY.....:

My peer reviewed publications are:

Hammond G.E (1994) The Cartesian Theory, in
New Ideas In Psychology, Vol 12(2) 153-167
Pergamon Press. Online copy of peer/published
paper is posted at:
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god/cart.html

Hammond G.E.(2003) A Semiclassical Proof of God
Noetic Journal, Vol 4(3) July 2003, pp 231-244(Noetic
Press)
Online copy of peer/published paper is posted at:
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god/Hammond5s1.html

========================================
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
========================================

[shevek]
Has anyone ever told you you come across as a chat bot?
I'm not attaching my CV. Maybe you can figure out why for yourself.

[Hammond]
Anybody who would use such a tedious supercilious and
middle class term as "chat bot" doesn't need to "post his
CV".... we already know everything of importance about the
person from just the single use of that (boring, middle
class, tedious, supercilious phrase).
finally, If you want to talk to me you'll have to talk
competent science. No one is interested in boring and
tedious "common knowlege" or "common assumptions".
========================================
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
========================================
.

User: ""
Title: Re: MYSTERIOUS TIME DILATION IN DREAMS ?	08 Sep 2006 10:50:11 AM

George Hammond wrote:

On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 21:07:01 GMT, George Hammond
<nowhere1@notspam.org> wrote:

On 7 Sep 2006 06:36:35 -0700, "shevek" <shevek4@yahoo.com>
wrote:

< BIG SNIP >

[Hammond]
Yeah... well that's the problem... you have no competency
in Relativity apparently.

[shevek]
Funny thing, all my relativity courses and papers haven't included
study of "biological growth".

[Hammond]
Relativity courses deal with THEORETICAL physics--
theoretical physicists are supposed to be able to "do"
applied physics" w/o any special training doncha know.

The question is where to apply the physics. Applying classical
relativity to things with relative motions v<<c is a mistake.

<SNIP>

[shevek]
God is "what"?.

[shevek]
You haven't proven that god is anything. You have defined the word, in
such a way that almost nobody will agree with your definition. How is
that productive?

Just above, you gave me your "DEFINITION OF GOD", and now you want me
to write 100 times that there is no such thing?

As a matter of fact, the PHYSICAL DESCRIPTION of
God is contained in the 1,333 pages of the King
James Bible for instance.
... ALL I AM CLAIMING.... is that this historic
PHYSICAL DESCRIPTION OF GOD has now been
scientifically explained, confirmed and PROVEN
and PEER-PUBLISHED by HAMMOND as being
caused by a "curvature of subjerctive spacetime"
(Caused by the Secular Trend in braingrowth)
and the existence of this curvature (which is God)
has been measured to two decimal point accuracy
using the published data existing in 75 years of
Psychometry, Biology, Neuropsychology and General
Relativity data..... and has in fact been published
by Hammond in the peer reviewed literature in
2003... copy of said publlshed paper is posted at
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god/Hammond5s1.html
for your reading convenience.

Just curious, I see your dataset is in English language surveys of
self-descriptive adjectives. How many people were surveyed?

[shevek]
And which one?

[Hammond]
Don't be stupid... whaddau mean "which one"...
certainly there can't be more than ONE
SUBJECTIVE CURVATURE OF SPACETIME
CAUSED BY BRAINGROWTH......

OBVIOUSLY THEN

THERE IS ONLY ONE "GOD"

[shevek]
Why not? A subjective curvature of spacetime is caused by e.g. several
thousand different phenethylamines when they are in your nervous
system. Each one could be a god by your definition.

[Hammond]
Look Shevek.... we're here to talk about the FOREST
NOT THE TREES!

Kind of difficult to say that much about a forest without mentioning
the trees, wouldn't you say?

For example a 9 year old is only HALF GROWN which means
his world is TWICE AS BIG AND TWICE AS FAST as your
world.... and HAMMOND has proven and published that this is
because his world has TWICE THE (SUBJECTIVE) CURVATURE that
your world has and that this is PROVEABLY caused by the fact
that his BRAIN is only HALF GROWN and therefore his MENTAL
SPEED is only half what yours is (50% TIME DILATION) and
that objects are TWICE AS BIG to him as they are to you (50%
length contraction)... and this phenomenon EXPLAINS GOD AND
THE ENTIRE BIBLE..........thus, "God and the entire Bible"
is shown, ("Proved") to be caused by a "classical metrical
curvature of subjective spacetime caused by braingrowth".
Of singular importance is that NO ONE ever reaches "full
growth" so that therefore, the world looks BIGGER AND FASTER
to everyone..... or "everyone is subject to God" as the
theologians put it.

Why do you suppose a 9 year old is "half grown"? His/her brain is
nearly full-size.. on some tests they perform faster (faster reflexes)
than a 50 year old. At that age, one year is about 10% of the whole
life, whereas for a 50 year old it is 2%.
These are good points you make..
but to drag in "God" to this discussion could only be a ploy to attract
attention.. in which case you are quite successful. If you like the
kind of attention you get, keep up the good work.

NOW........... we don't need to sit here and sing:

... the shin bone is connected to the thigh bone,
and the thigh bone is connected to the hip bone...

nor do we need to discuss "a thousand phenotymines
either...!

That would be for a different newsgroup. Phenethylamines.
PIHKAL.

[shevek]
Those are the questions I want
answered.

[Hammond]
I JUST ANSWERED THEM.....!

I'VE ANSWERED THEM A THOUSAND TIMES ON USENET ...!

WHADAU WANT ME TO DO PLAY A RECORDING OF MY
ANSWER OVER AND OVER A MILLION TIMES..,. ?

[shevek]
Why do you insist on using the word proof, without any provable
statement after it?

[Hammond]
The "proveable statemnt" (the scientific proof of God")
has

BEEN REPEATED IN YOUR FACE
A THOUSAND TIMES........."
PLEASE READ MY LIPS IF YOU ARE
HARD OF HEARING:

.................................................................
D-E-S-C-R-I-P-T-I-O-N OF GOD
"God" so called (i.e. the God of the Bible for instance)
is in fact a "curvature of Psychometric space" meaning it
is a "magnification and speeding up" of (subjective)
spacetime which makes the world look "bigger and faster"
than it actually is... and this phenomea is universally
called "GOD".... and this scientific explanation
EXPLAINS GOD AND THE ENTIRE BIBLE......
and naturally therefore constitutes a
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD, SO CALLED!
.................................................................

Now you are bringing "the entire bible" into your "proof". I think you
should go the other direction and consolidate your work. Otherwise you
will need a psychometric explanation for the parting of the red sea and
the stories of Gilgamesh and Enkidu.
Perhaps you are claiming that psychometry can explain what people have
done to these stories in the last 2000 years.

[shevek]
You have defined "God".. now what are you going to prove about it?

[shevek]
Has anyone ever told you you come across as a chat bot?
I'm not attaching my CV. Maybe you can figure out why for yourself.

?? Maybe you don't know what a chat bot is. It's a script running in
a thread that trolls newsgroups and chat networks saying all kinds of
things but eventually including the same URL the author wants you to
visit. They are getting better and better at passing Turing tests.

finally, If you want to talk to me you'll have to talk
competent science. No one is interested in boring and
tedious "common knowlege" or "common assumptions".

If we don't get the common sense right, we will find it difficult to
construct good science on its back.
Cheers - shev
.

User: "George Hammond"
Title: Re: MYSTERIOUS TIME DILATION IN DREAMS ?	09 Sep 2006 12:25:07 PM

On 8 Sep 2006 08:50:11 -0700,

wrote:

George Hammond wrote:

On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 21:07:01 GMT, George Hammond
<nowhere1@notspam.org> wrote:

On 7 Sep 2006 06:36:35 -0700, "shevek" <

>
wrote:

< BIG SNIP >

[Hammond]
Yeah... well that's the problem... you have no competency
in Relativity apparently.

[shevek]
Funny thing, all my relativity courses and papers haven't included
study of "biological growth".

[Hammond]
Relativity courses deal with THEORETICAL physics--
theoretical physicists are supposed to be able to "do"
applied physics" w/o any special training doncha know.

[Shevek]
The question is where to apply the physics. Applying classical
relativity to things with relative motions v<<c is a mistake.

[Hammond]
GENERAL RELATIVITY APPLIES EVEN IF V=ZERO
NEVER MIND V<<C !!!
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT !!

<SNIP>

[shevek]
God is "what"?.

[shevek]
You haven't proven that god is anything. You have defined the word, in
such a way that almost nobody will agree with your definition. How is
that productive?

Just above, you gave me your "DEFINITION OF GOD", and now you want me
to write 100 times that there is no such thing?

[Hammond]
Amateurs loosly use the world "definition" when they are
talking about a "description".
For instance.... THERE IS NO "definition of the Moon"
there is only a "description of the Moon".
On the other hand there is a "definition of Golf", because
GOLF IS AN ARBITRARY CONVENTION....THE MOON IS NOT!
AND NEITHER IS GOD........
THEREFORE "GOD", LIKE THE MOON, DOES NOT
HAVE A "DEFINITION" IT ONLY HAS A DESCRIPTION.
surely you don';t expect me to sit here and waste my breath
talking to a newbie amateur chat-bot like you about such
trivialities!!!

Just curious, I see your dataset is in English language surveys of
self-descriptive adjectives. How many people were surveyed?

[Hammond]
WRONG AGAIN...... Psychometric datas has been surveyed in
all 250 languages of the world and has been PUBLISHED in all
of the major languages for DECADES..... with MILLIONS of
people being tested. Just because YOU are unfamiliar with
all this research doesn't mean it doesn't exist!

[shevek]
And which one?

[Hammond]
Don't be stupid... whaddau mean "which one"...
certainly there can't be more than ONE
SUBJECTIVE CURVATURE OF SPACETIME
CAUSED BY BRAINGROWTH......

OBVIOUSLY THEN

THERE IS ONLY ONE "GOD"

[shevek]
Why not? A subjective curvature of spacetime is caused by e.g. several
thousand different phenethylamines when they are in your nervous
system. Each one could be a god by your definition.

[Hammond]
Look Shevek.... we're here to talk about the FOREST
NOT THE TREES!

Kind of difficult to say that much about a forest without mentioning
the trees, wouldn't you say?

[Hammond]
I don't respond to "chatbot" statments like that.
Sorry, pedal it soemhere else.

Why do you suppose a 9 year old is "half grown"?

[Hammond]
Whataru stupid? Everyone knows adulthood in humans is
reached at age 18... meaning GROWTH STOPS at 18.
And, as Feynman once said "everything is linear to first
order" which mean that 18/2=9 years old must be HALF
GROWN... surely that math is not over your head is it... or
do you just want to be a chatbot and type a lot of horseshit
about "non linearity" blah, blah, blah....
either talk seriously and competently scientifically or
I'm going to add your name to the killfile list.

His/her brain is
nearly full-size.. on some tests they perform faster (faster reflexes)
than a 50 year old. At that age, one year is about 10% of the whole
life, whereas for a 50 year old it is 2%.

[Hammond]
I just told you we are not here to play "CHATBOT DISCUSSES
THE EXCEPTIONS THAT PROVE THE RULE".
/either post something normal, rational and intelliegent
and scientifically competent if you want to talk to me...
there are a million wiseacres on Usenet...I kill file them
the minute they walk thru the door.

These are good points you make..

[Hammond]
The next thing you'll tell me is that the Pope is a
Catholic!

but to drag in "God" to this discussion could only be a ploy to attract
attention.. in which case you are quite successful. If you like the
kind of attention you get, keep up the good work.

[Hammond]
Please refrain from using amateur newbie words like "ploy"..
such servile gullibility drives me up a wall!

That would be for a different newsgroup. Phenethylamines.
PIHKAL.

[shevek]
Those are the questions I want
answered.

[Hammond]
I JUST ANSWERED THEM.....!

I'VE ANSWERED THEM A THOUSAND TIMES ON USENET ...!

WHADAU WANT ME TO DO PLAY A RECORDING OF MY
ANSWER OVER AND OVER A MILLION TIMES..,. ?

[shevek]
Why do you insist on using the word proof, without any provable
statement after it?

[Hammond]
The "proveable statemnt" (the scientific proof of God")
has

BEEN REPEATED IN YOUR FACE
A THOUSAND TIMES........."
PLEASE READ MY LIPS IF YOU ARE
HARD OF HEARING:

.................................................................
D-E-S-C-R-I-P-T-I-O-N OF GOD
"God" so called (i.e. the God of the Bible for instance)
is in fact a "curvature of Psychometric space" meaning it
is a "magnification and speeding up" of (subjective)
spacetime which makes the world look "bigger and faster"
than it actually is... and this phenomea is universally
called "GOD".... and this scientific explanation
EXPLAINS GOD AND THE ENTIRE BIBLE......
and naturally therefore constitutes a
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD, SO CALLED!
.................................................................

[Shevek]
Now you are bringing "the entire bible" into your "proof".

[Hammond]
Look... try to get SOME GRASP on who you are talking to, and
what you are talking about. You have already demonstrated
that you don'ty know that 18/9=2.
there is nothing "mysterious" abot GOD, nor is there
anything erudite and mysterious about RELIGION in general
including the "entire Bible".
Now either dummy up and try to realize that you are
talking to a wold class scholar, and that you are a dumb *****
juvenile nobody who likes to play "chatbot" on Usenet.
If you want to continue talking to me don't try to insult
me because you just sound stupid when you try to do so. Your
ONLY HOPE of continuing the PRIVILIGE of talking to me is to
be:
1. SINCERE
2. POLITE
3. PROFESSIONAL
failing that, you will be simply added to my VERY LENGTHY
KILLFILE list of amateur haranguers, harassers, stalkers and
psychotic wannabees.

I think you
should go the other direction and consolidate your work. Otherwise you
will need a psychometric explanation for the parting of the red sea and
the stories of Gilgamesh and Enkidu.

[Hammond]
Look kid... you wouldn't understand what the expression the
"parting of the Red Sea" means from a ketchup bottle even if
you were wearing rose colored glasses. At your age all you
can do is try to master simple minded science (general
relativity for instance and Linear Algebra (eigenvector
extraction)) and TRY TO BE POLITE when talking to your
superiors... meaning people like me!

Perhaps you are claiming that psychometry can explain what people have
done to these stories in the last 2000 years.

[Hammond]
I'M CLAIMING THAT I HAVE:
DISCOVERED
PROVEN
AND PEER REVIEWED/PUBLISHED
THE WORLD'S FIRST RIGOROUS
HARD SCIENCE PROOF OF GOD!!!
ISN'T THAT ENOUGH FOR YOU!!!!!!
FIR CHRISTS'S SAKE THE ENTIRE WORLD
IS SCREAMING FOR YOU SCIENTIFIC ASSHOLES
TO GET YOUR THUMB OUT OF YOUR MOUTHS AND
READ THE THING AND TELL THE WORLD THAT
YES
IT'S TRUE !!!!!!!!!!!

[shevek]
You have defined "God".. now what are you going to prove about it?

If we don't get the common sense right, we will find it difficult to
construct good science on its back.

[Hammond]
YOU ARE THE ONE HAVING TROUBLE
"GETTING THE COMMON SENSE RIGHT"

Cheers - shev

[Hammond]
Likewise I'm sure.
========================================
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
========================================
.

User: "shevek"
Title: Re: MYSTERIOUS TIME DILATION IN DREAMS ?	11 Sep 2006 09:48:32 AM

George Hammond wrote:

On 8 Sep 2006 08:50:11 -0700,

wrote:

George Hammond wrote:

On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 21:07:01 GMT, George Hammond
<nowhere1@notspam.org> wrote:

On 7 Sep 2006 06:36:35 -0700, "shevek" <

>
wrote:

< BIG SNIP >

[Hammond]
Yeah... well that's the problem... you have no competency
in Relativity apparently.

[shevek]
Funny thing, all my relativity courses and papers haven't included
study of "biological growth".

[Hammond]
Relativity courses deal with THEORETICAL physics--
theoretical physicists are supposed to be able to "do"
applied physics" w/o any special training doncha know.

[Shevek]
The question is where to apply the physics. Applying classical
relativity to things with relative motions v<<c is a mistake.

[Hammond]
GENERAL RELATIVITY APPLIES EVEN IF V=ZERO
NEVER MIND V<<C !!!
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT !!

Sure, and quantum mechanics applies to baseballs too. Good luck with
that when you're playing the infield.

<SNIP>

[shevek]
God is "what"?.

[shevek]
You haven't proven that god is anything. You have defined the word, in
such a way that almost nobody will agree with your definition. How is
that productive?

Just above, you gave me your "DEFINITION OF GOD", and now you want me
to write 100 times that there is no such thing?

So you retract your statement (above) which you called a "definition of
God"?

surely you don';t expect me to sit here and waste my breath
talking to a newbie amateur chat-bot like you about such
trivialities!!!

If they're so trivial, how come you keep changing your mind about them?

Just curious, I see your dataset is in English language surveys of
self-descriptive adjectives. How many people were surveyed?

I'm curious. What kind of surveys? How are you going to combine e.g.
the survey you mention in your paper (English language adjectives) with
other surveys?
What other languages do you speak, Mr. "I'm a world class scholar"?

[shevek]
And which one?

[Hammond]
Don't be stupid... whaddau mean "which one"...
certainly there can't be more than ONE
SUBJECTIVE CURVATURE OF SPACETIME
CAUSED BY BRAINGROWTH......

OBVIOUSLY THEN

THERE IS ONLY ONE "GOD"

[shevek]
Why not? A subjective curvature of spacetime is caused by e.g. several
thousand different phenethylamines when they are in your nervous
system. Each one could be a god by your definition.

[Hammond]
Look Shevek.... we're here to talk about the FOREST
NOT THE TREES!

Kind of difficult to say that much about a forest without mentioning
the trees, wouldn't you say?

[Hammond]
I don't respond to "chatbot" statments like that.
Sorry, pedal it soemhere else.

Notice I didn't include a URL. Hence, not a chatbot. I'm glad you
like the new word but learn to use it properly and it will work better
for you.

Why do you suppose a 9 year old is "half grown"?

[Hammond]
Whataru stupid? Everyone knows adulthood in humans is
reached at age 18... meaning GROWTH STOPS at 18.

LOL!
Growth never stops, even of brain cells. Especially amongst a species
such as our own, for which neoteny is a survival mechanism enabling
continued learning.

And, as Feynman once said "everything is linear to first
order" which mean that 18/2=9 years old must be HALF
GROWN... surely that math is not over your head is it... or
do you just want to be a chatbot and type a lot of horseshit
about "non linearity" blah, blah, blah....
either talk seriously and competently scientifically or
I'm going to add your name to the killfile list.

I'm shaking in my boots. :)
According to your linear approximation above, I am twice full size at
age 36.
Feynman would surely agree. Therefore, I am two Gods. Let me send it
in to the Noetic journal.

His/her brain is
nearly full-size.. on some tests they perform faster (faster reflexes)
than a 50 year old. At that age, one year is about 10% of the whole
life, whereas for a 50 year old it is 2%.

These are good points you make..

[Hammond]
The next thing you'll tell me is that the Pope is a
Catholic!

but to drag in "God" to this discussion could only be a ploy to attract
attention.. in which case you are quite successful. If you like the
kind of attention you get, keep up the good work.

[Hammond]
Please refrain from using amateur newbie words like "ploy"..
such servile gullibility drives me up a wall!

to drag in "God" to this discussion could only be an attempt to attract
attention.. in which case you are quite successful. If you like the
kind of attention you get, keep up the good work.

That would be for a different newsgroup. Phenethylamines.
PIHKAL.

[shevek]
Those are the questions I want
answered.

[Hammond]
I JUST ANSWERED THEM.....!

I'VE ANSWERED THEM A THOUSAND TIMES ON USENET ...!

WHADAU WANT ME TO DO PLAY A RECORDING OF MY
ANSWER OVER AND OVER A MILLION TIMES..,. ?

[shevek]
Why do you insist on using the word proof, without any provable
statement after it?

[Hammond]
The "proveable statemnt" (the scientific proof of God")
has

BEEN REPEATED IN YOUR FACE
A THOUSAND TIMES........."
PLEASE READ MY LIPS IF YOU ARE
HARD OF HEARING:

[Shevek]
Now you are bringing "the entire bible" into your "proof".

[Hammond]
Look... try to get SOME GRASP on who you are talking to, and
what you are talking about. You have already demonstrated
that you don'ty know that 18/9=2.

Your love for falsehood is not so becoming.

there is nothing "mysterious" abot GOD,

There are plenty of mysterious things about everything. Right?

nor is there
anything erudite and mysterious about RELIGION in general
including the "entire Bible".
Now either dummy up and try to realize that you are
talking to a wold class scholar, and that you are a dumb *****
juvenile nobody who likes to play "chatbot" on Usenet.
If you want to continue talking to me don't try to insult
me because you just sound stupid when you try to do so. Your
ONLY HOPE of continuing the PRIVILIGE of talking to me is to
be:

1. SINCERE
2. POLITE
3. PROFESSIONAL

failing that, you will be simply added to my VERY LENGTHY
KILLFILE list of amateur haranguers, harassers, stalkers and
psychotic wannabees.

1. You don't know who you are talking to.
2. You have demonstrated less of all three than I have.
3. Your psychology research makes you about as qualified to discuss
biblical scripture as my astrophysics degree.

I think you
should go the other direction and consolidate your work. Otherwise you
will need a psychometric explanation for the parting of the red sea and
the stories of Gilgamesh and Enkidu.

Look sir,
As you can tell, I always try to be polite to my readers. Even you
Hammond, I will assume have something to say which I don't know, making
you in that regard my superior.
However, I've seen no evidence that you can listen and learn. Thus, I
find it hard to believe that you have studied such simple minded
science as general relativity.

Perhaps you are claiming that psychometry can explain what people have
done to these stories in the last 2000 years.

[Hammond]
I'M CLAIMING THAT I HAVE:

DISCOVERED
PROVEN
AND PEER REVIEWED/PUBLISHED

THE WORLD'S FIRST RIGOROUS
HARD SCIENCE PROOF OF GOD!!!

ISN'T THAT ENOUGH FOR YOU!!!!!!

Yes, I should have seen that as nonsense and not replied from the
start.
Next you should give us the
WORLDS FIRST RIGOROUS HARD SCIENCE PROOF OF PROTON
maybe you think Euclid gave us a
PROOF OF CIRCLES.

FIR CHRISTS'S SAKE

pun intended?

THE ENTIRE WORLD
IS SCREAMING FOR YOU SCIENTIFIC ASSHOLES
TO GET YOUR THUMB OUT OF YOUR MOUTHS AND
READ THE THING AND TELL THE WORLD THAT
YES
IT'S TRUE !!!!!!!!!!!

It's true: God.
It's been proven.
The following statement is true: "God".
The proof: people chose certain English language adjectives to describe
themselves.

[shevek]
You have defined "God".. now what are you going to prove about it?

Publications by world famous scientists in
THOUSANDS of peer reviewed papers.....

I don'tpay attention to off the wall nuts who aren't
published in the peer reviewed literature..!

BY THE WAY.....:

[snip]

If we don't get the common sense right, we will find it difficult to
construct good science on its back.

[Hammond]
YOU ARE THE ONE HAVING TROUBLE

"GETTING THE COMMON SENSE RIGHT"

At least I can admit it. A first step you don't seem to know how to
take.
A pleasure as always - shevek
.

User: "George Hammond"
Title: Re: MYSTERIOUS TIME DILATION IN DREAMS ?	11 Sep 2006 03:25:28 PM

On 11 Sep 2006 07:48:32 -0700, "shevek" <shevek4@yahoo.com>
wrote:

[Shevek]
The question is where to apply the physics. Applying classical
relativity to things with relative motions v<<c is a mistake.

[Hammond]
GENERAL RELATIVITY APPLIES EVEN IF V=ZERO
NEVER MIND V<<C !!!
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT !!

Sure, and quantum mechanics applies to baseballs too. Good luck with
that when you're playing the infield.

[Hammond]
OK smart aleck ... we don't need to wade thru any more of
your pedantic, amateurish and booring remarks..... you've
made an incompetent scientific statment which proves that
you're just another chatty impudent amateur.
In the first place you don't know the difference between
SR and GR. In GR there are major dilation effects
with v<<C, in fact with v=0! The Schwarchild Solution for
instance has an INFINITE TIME DILATION at R=2M
even though it is aTOTALLY STATIC PROBLEM...... with
V=ZERO!!!
The same is true of CURVED PSYCHOMETRY SPACE.
Psychometry space is a STATIC PROBLEM
...... there is nothing "moving" in Psychometry Space... and
therefore the Time Dilation cannot be caused by VELOCITY.
In fact, it is a GRAVITATIONAL TIME DILATION NOT A VELOCITY
TIME DILATION WITH V=ZERO !!
ONCE AGAIN, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT; CHATBOT!
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User: "George Hammond"
Title: Re: MYSTERIOUS TIME DILATION IN DREAMS ?	12 Sep 2006 11:58:28 PM

On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 04:26:14 GMT, George Hammond
<nowhere1@notspam.org> wrote:
On 11 Sep 2006 19:00:43 -0700, "shevek4@yahoo.com"
<shevek4@yahoo.com> wrote:

[Hammond]
In the first place you don't know the difference between
SR and GR. In GR there are major dilation effects
with v<<C, in fact with v=0! The Schwarchild Solution for
instance has an INFINITE TIME DILATION at R=2M
even though it is aTOTALLY STATIC PROBLEM...... with
V=ZERO!!!

[shevek]
Very true, thank you for pointing out that gravity can be important for
v<<c. That's why I said "classical relativity".. but my apologies for
the baseball analogy. Infielders know full well the affect of the
gravity well upon which they stand.

[Hammond]
The same is true of CURVED PSYCHOMETRY SPACE.

Psychometry space is a STATIC PROBLEM

..... there is nothing "moving" in Psychometry Space... and
therefore the Time Dilation cannot be caused by VELOCITY.
In fact, it is a GRAVITATIONAL TIME DILATION NOT A VELOCITY
TIME DILATION WITH V=ZERO !!

[shevek]
OK, so we move from our physical metric space-time, in which meters and
seconds are defined to us by electromagnetic oscillators, to some other
psychometry space-time. Maybe you'd like to take this opportunity to
comment on the definition of metric in this psychometry space. How can
I measure one second of psychometry time?

[Hammond]
If you'd actually read my paper at:
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god/Hammond5s1.html
you wouldn't need to ask all these trivial questions.
So lets keep it simple.
The first thing you learn in a General Relativity course is
that gravity causes a time dilation. If a clock is sitting
in a gravitational potential, phi, it will have a time
dilation (1-phi) compared to an identical clock which is NOT
sitting in the gravitational field.
Now, as my paper shows, the "braingrowth deficit", BGD,
takes the place of the gravitational potential phi, in the
metric of "subjective spacetime".
(Note in passing that this fact is PROVED by showing that
the linear algebra of Psychometry is CAUSALLY identical to
the linear algebra of Linearized General Relativity, Hammond
2003)
IOW, my theory shows that a "mentally retarded" person
is "slow" in the exactly same way an astonaught appears
to "slow down" when he is dropped into a strong
gravitational field (say a black hole).
So a mentally "slow" person, or say an ungrown child, or a
mentally retarded person, manifests a "mental time dilation"
which is given by (1-BGD).... in other words, the "brain
growth deficit" takes the place of the "gravitational
potential" in the equation for the time dilation of
SUBJECTIVE (e.g. Psychometric) time.
OK... we have seen that a 9 year old has a BGD of
(nominally) 50% because his brain is only 1/2 grown.
Likewise a mentally retarded person with "the mind of a 9
year old" would have the same dilation.. i.e. (1-.5)=a 50%
time dilation. This means one second of "our time" is
actually equal to 1.5 seconds of "their" time.
By the way this can actually be experimentally demonstrated
using the "picture fusion frequency" (PFF) of ordinary movie
film. If you have a variable speed movie projector and vary
the speed, you will find that the flashing frames become a
"movie" to the normal adult at about 16 frames/sec.
this speed varies DRAMATICALLY with age (I.E. WITH BRAIN
GROWTH). For a 7 year old the PFF is 10 frames/s while for
a 15 yr old it is 15 f/s. That is a 33% difference!
OK... now consider you and me and the average guy.
It turns out that NO ONE ever reaches full growth,
in fact the average person is only about 85% fully grown
(according to Secular Trend data) by the time he stops
growing (age 18). This means that one second of "real time"
seems like .85 seconds to you and me... and the average guy.
this means the WHOLE WORLD looks like it's running 15%
FASTER THAN IT ACTUALLY IS !
So, to answer your question..... ONE SECOND OF REAL TIME
LOOKS TO YOU, LIKE IT IS ONLY .85 SECONDS LONG..... AND THAT
IS WHY THE WORLD APPEARS SO:
FRIGHTENING
OVERWHELMING AND
DANGEROUS
TO US AND MOST PEOPLE
IN THE WORLD.... because in fact it
LOOKS LIKE it is running 15% faster than it actually
is.
This effect is called "God" by the way. I.e., "God" is the
mythically 100% grown human being, and therefore only "God"
can see a second so that it actually looks one second
long... to the rest of us it looks only .85 seconds long..
i.e. the WORLD IS SPEEDED UP !
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User: "George Hammond"
Title: Re: MYSTERIOUS TIME DILATION IN DREAMS ?	13 Sep 2006 12:19:38 AM

On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 05:17:48 GMT, George Hammond
<nowhere1@notspam.org> wrote:
[Hammond]
POST SCRIPT:
PS: You may think a "15% speeding up of the world" is not a
big deal, but let me point out that this 15% speed increase
puts 15% of the world outside of the PFF bandwidth, so in
fact, 15% OF THE WORLD BECOMES INVISIBLE to the average
person!
This INVISBLE WORLD is the invisible world of Religion,
where it is called "HEAVEN". Heaven in other words is
actually part of this world that is INVISIBLE to every human
being, and it is this "MISSING" PART OF THE WORLD that is
the root cause of EVERY DIFFICULTY AND MISERY KNOWN TO
MAN... yea... even misery and difficulty ITSELF is caused by
this phenomenon!
George Hammond

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User: ""
Title: Re: MYSTERIOUS TIME DILATION IN DREAMS ?	13 Sep 2006 09:18:22 AM

George Hammond wrote:

On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 05:17:48 GMT, George Hammond
<nowhere1@notspam.org> wrote:

[Hammond]

POST SCRIPT:

PS: You may think a "15% speeding up of the world" is not a
big deal, but let me point out that this 15% speed increase
puts 15% of the world outside of the PFF bandwidth, so in
fact, 15% OF THE WORLD BECOMES INVISIBLE to the average
person!
This INVISBLE WORLD is the invisible world of Religion,
where it is called "HEAVEN". Heaven in other words is
actually part of this world that is INVISIBLE to every human
being, and it is this "MISSING" PART OF THE WORLD that is
the root cause of EVERY DIFFICULTY AND MISERY KNOWN TO
MAN... yea... even misery and difficulty ITSELF is caused by
this phenomenon!

Good luck selling that idea to the Guantanamo detainees.
.

User: "George Hammond"
Title: Re: MYSTERIOUS TIME DILATION IN DREAMS ?	13 Sep 2006 12:50:22 PM

On 13 Sep 2006 07:18:22 -0700,

wrote:

George Hammond wrote:

On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 05:17:48 GMT, George Hammond
<nowhere1@notspam.org> wrote:

[Hammond]

POST SCRIPT:

PS: You may think a "15% speeding up of the world" is not a
big deal, but let me point out that this 15% speed increase
puts 15% of the world outside of the PFF bandwidth, so in
fact, 15% OF THE WORLD BECOMES INVISIBLE to the average
person!
This INVISBLE WORLD is the invisible world of Religion,
where it is called "HEAVEN". Heaven in other words is
actually part of this world that is INVISIBLE to every human
being, and it is this "MISSING" PART OF THE WORLD that is
the root cause of EVERY DIFFICULTY AND MISERY KNOWN TO
MAN... yea... even misery and difficulty ITSELF is caused by
this phenomenon!

]shevek]
Good luck selling that idea to the Guantanamo detainees.

[Hammond]
WHAT "IDEA" ??????
Its a "scientifically proven fact" and the PROOF has
been published in the peer reviewed literature with a copy
of the paper posted at:
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god/Hammond5s1.html
for your reading convenience.
But..... since you are UNABLE to discuss the
peer-published proof... and can only offer a lame brain non
sequitor such as the above I assume you are now going to
retreat to your computer-science job where you belong and
will henceforth keep your pretentious nose out of
theoretical physics research where it obviously doesn't
belong.
..... or are ypu perhaps now going to appoint yourself
Secretary of State and take command at "Gitmo"
..... baah ha hah hah..... aaahhh ha ha ha hah.....!!!!!
You suck shevek.... you're just another half assed
anti-intellectual harasser posing as a "serious student of
science".
...... baah hah hah hah ha ha hah.........
baah.ha hah.. baah hah hah hah ha ha hah........
ha ha ha ha ...... ha ha hah hah hah haah..
aah ha ... baah hah hah hah ha ha hah......
ha ha ha ha ...... ha ha hah hah hah haah..!!!!
You're all done ***** head.... bye bye..
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User: "TMG"
Title: Re: MYSTERIOUS TIME DILATION IN DREAMS ?	13 Sep 2006 08:31:33 PM

George Hammond wrote:

..... baah hah hah hah ha ha hah.........
baah.ha hah.. baah hah hah hah ha ha hah........
ha ha ha ha ...... ha ha hah hah hah haah..
aah ha ... baah hah hah hah ha ha hah......
ha ha ha ha ...... ha ha hah hah hah haah..!!!!

And the meltdown continues.....
.

User: "shevek"
Title: Re: MYSTERIOUS TIME DILATION IN DREAMS ?	13 Sep 2006 02:11:17 PM

George Hammond wrote:

On 13 Sep 2006 07:18:22 -0700,

wrote:

George Hammond wrote:

On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 05:17:48 GMT, George Hammond
<nowhere1@notspam.org> wrote:

[Hammond]

POST SCRIPT:

PS: You may think a "15% speeding up of the world" is not a
big deal, but let me point out that this 15% speed increase
puts 15% of the world outside of the PFF bandwidth, so in
fact, 15% OF THE WORLD BECOMES INVISIBLE to the average
person!
This INVISBLE WORLD is the invisible world of Religion,
where it is called "HEAVEN". Heaven in other words is
actually part of this world that is INVISIBLE to every human
being, and it is this "MISSING" PART OF THE WORLD that is
the root cause of EVERY DIFFICULTY AND MISERY KNOWN TO
MAN... yea... even misery and difficulty ITSELF is caused by
this phenomenon!

]shevek]
Good luck selling that idea to the Guantanamo detainees.

[Hammond]
WHAT "IDEA" ??????

Its a "scientifically proven fact" and the PROOF has
been published in the peer reviewed literature with a copy
of the paper posted at:> [snip]
for your reading convenience.

There is no way a rational person could claim that it is a
scientifically proven fact that every difficulty and misery known to
man is caused by a time dilation phenomenon causing heaven to remain
invisible.
However, I am still having trouble discovering the motivation you have
for writing such a thing down.

But..... since you are UNABLE to discuss the
peer-published proof... and can only offer a lame brain non
sequitor such as the above I assume you are now going to
retreat to your computer-science job where you belong and
will henceforth keep your pretentious nose out of
theoretical physics research where it obviously doesn't
belong.

LOL. Nice try, but wrong.

.... or are ypu perhaps now going to appoint yourself
Secretary of State and take command at "Gitmo"
.... baah ha hah hah..... aaahhh ha ha ha hah.....!!!!!
You suck shevek.... you're just another half assed
anti-intellectual harasser posing as a "serious student of
science".

Pretty poor insulting skills, even for a homosexual.
.

User: "Enkidu"
Title: Re: MYSTERIOUS TIME DILATION IN DREAMS ?	13 Sep 2006 10:21:52 PM

"shevek" <shevek4@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1158174677.662568.83190
@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com:

Its a "scientifically proven fact" and the PROOF has
been published in the peer reviewed literature with a copy
of the paper posted at:> [snip]
for your reading convenience.

There is no way a rational person could claim that it is a
scientifically proven fact that every difficulty and misery known to
man is caused by a time dilation phenomenon causing heaven to remain
invisible.

However, I am still having trouble discovering the motivation you have
for writing such a thing down.

He's a kook.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
http://www.thoughts.leaddogs.org/
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
"If there is a God, he is a malign thug."
Mark Twain (1835-1910)
.

User: "George Hammond"
Title: Re: MYSTERIOUS TIME DILATION IN DREAMS ?	13 Sep 2006 03:21:47 PM

On 13 Sep 2006 12:11:17 -0700, "shevek" <

>
wrote:

George Hammond wrote:

On 13 Sep 2006 07:18:22 -0700,

wrote:

George Hammond wrote:

On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 05:17:48 GMT, George Hammond
<nowhere1@notspam.org> wrote:

[Hammond]

POST SCRIPT:

PS: You may think a "15% speeding up of the world" is not a
big deal, but let me point out that this 15% speed increase
puts 15% of the world outside of the PFF bandwidth, so in
fact, 15% OF THE WORLD BECOMES INVISIBLE to the average
person!
This INVISBLE WORLD is the invisible world of Religion,
where it is called "HEAVEN". Heaven in other words is
actually part of this world that is INVISIBLE to every human
being, and it is this "MISSING" PART OF THE WORLD that is
the root cause of EVERY DIFFICULTY AND MISERY KNOWN TO
MAN... yea... even misery and difficulty ITSELF is caused by
this phenomenon!

]shevek]
Good luck selling that idea to the Guantanamo detainees.

[Hammond]
OH YES IT IS ..... fact is, there is ONLY ONE THING
WRONG WITH LIFE TO BEGIN WITH.... and that is
the existence of the "growth curve deficit", see:
http://www.geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god/Hammond5s1_files/img0.gif
.....this is the cause of EVERYTHING that is judged to be
"wrong" with the world.... and any half witted moron with
only a smattering of Science could easily see it.. and that
is WHY it is the "scientific explanation of God".
Now.... don't you think it is time you got back to your
fryolator job or job parking cars or whatever it is you're
supposed to be doing for a living?
If you post any more heckling to this thread I'm going to
add your name to my already lengthy killfile list.
sniveling impudent halfwit!
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User: "TMG"
Title: Re: MYSTERIOUS TIME DILATION IN DREAMS ?	13 Sep 2006 08:36:41 PM

shevek wrote:

George Hammond wrote:

[Hammond]

There is no way a rational person could claim that it is a
scientifically proven fact that every difficulty and misery known to
man is caused by a time dilation phenomenon causing heaven to remain
invisible.

However, I am still having trouble discovering the motivation you have
for writing such a thing down.

He's a self-proclaimed mental patient - having been involuntarily
committed several times. Stop trying to find science and rational
thinking in George's "proofs". He's crazy.
.

User: "George Hammond"
Title: Re: MYSTERIOUS TIME DILATION IN DREAMS ?	14 Sep 2006 10:23:09 AM

On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 21:36:41 -0400, TMG <

>
wrote:
==========NOTE:=======================
Most of the people listed below are amateur trolls.
Among them however are many dedicated and vicious
psychotic academics embedded at the PhD level in many
of our well known scientific institutions hiding behind
anonymous Usenet aliases. These professional level
harassers are dedicated to smearing Hammond's reputation
and his discovery on the Internet and are catagorically
committed to the suppression of the stunning discovery
of the world's first
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD
which has been published by Hammond in the peer reviewed
literature and is rapidly becoming internationally known via
the Internet.
All names on the list have been culled from off topic,
ad hominem, abusive postings to one or more of
Hammond's scientific discussion threads on Usenet.
George Hammond.
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User: "TMG"
Title: Re: MYSTERIOUS TIME DILATION IN DREAMS ?	09 Sep 2006 05:14:45 PM

George Hammond wrote:

[Hammond]
I don't respond to "chatbot" statments like that.

My, My,...you just were ranting and raving (even foaming at the mouth)
about another writer using the term "chatbot".
Getting boned up the ***** by REAL scientists has really warped your mind...
<SNIP>

[Hammond]
I just told you we are not here to play "CHATBOT DISCUSSES
THE EXCEPTIONS THAT PROVE THE RULE".

And here it is again. You really are a drolling idiot.

[Hammond]
Please refrain from using amateur newbie words like "ploy"..
such servile gullibility drives me up a wall!

Ya mean like "chatbot"?

[Hammond]
Look... try to get SOME GRASP on who you are talking to,

You mean a FAILED wannabe with a failed attempt at a scientific career,
ending up by being locked up in a mental ward, having been certified as
insane?

[Hammond]
I'M CLAIMING THAT I HAVE:

DISCOVERED
PROVEN
AND PEER REVIEWED/PUBLISHED

THE WORLD'S FIRST RIGOROUS
HARD SCIENCE PROOF OF GOD!!!

You claim such, but are lying.
Lying.
Lying.

ISN'T THAT ENOUGH FOR YOU!!!!!!

What? The LYING?
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User: "Michael Gray"
Title: Re: MYSTERIOUS TIME DILATION IN DREAMS ?	07 Sep 2006 10:37:27 PM

On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 01:20:14 GMT, George Hammond
<nowhere1@notspam.org> wrote:
- Refer: <q4h1g2pd65t3iqjvovav2hdp7ef3k6gs7c@4ax.com>

On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 21:07:01 GMT, George Hammond
<nowhere1@notspam.org> wrote:

:
Hammond, the delusional psychotic, is talking to himself again.
No-one else will listen to his pathetic ravings.
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