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Date: 08 Dec 2007 02:24:51 PM
Object: Re: Natural selection strikes (some prefer ignorance)
"curtjester1" <curtjester1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Is viewing evolution as a religious myth coated with psuedo-scientific
jargon and imagination wrong?

It's so sad when people like yourself would rather remain ignorant when the
facts are out there for everyone.
.

User: "curtjester1"

Title: Re: Natural selection strikes (some prefer ignorance) 08 Dec 2007 03:21:31 PM
On 8 Dec, 15:24, D=E4rFl=E4ken <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

"curtjester1" <curtjest...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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Is viewing evolution as a religious myth coated with psuedo-scientific
jargon and imagination wrong?


It's so sad when people like yourself would rather remain ignorant when th=

e

facts are out there for everyone.

It's so sad to see redundant false piety especially when all they can
do is generalize and offer no proof, much less specific proof.
CJ
.
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Title: Re: Natural selection strikes (some prefer ignorance) 08 Dec 2007 03:53:48 PM
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On 8 Dec, 15:24, DärFläken <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

"curtjester1" <curtjest...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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Is viewing evolution as a religious myth coated with psuedo-scientific
jargon and imagination wrong?


It's so sad when people like yourself would rather remain ignorant when
the
facts are out there for everyone.

It's so sad to see redundant false piety especially when all they can
do is generalize and offer no proof, much less specific proof.
The proof is right there for all to see. You choose to remain ignorant.
CJ
.
User: "~s.a.b.a g.r.a.c.i.l.e~"

Title: Re: Natural selection strikes (some prefer ignorance) 12 Dec 2007 12:29:30 PM
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On 8 Dec, 15:24, DärFläken <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

"curtjester1" <curtjest...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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Is viewing evolution as a religious myth coated with psuedo-scientific
jargon and imagination wrong?


It's so sad when people like yourself would rather remain ignorant when the
facts are out there for everyone.


It's so sad to see redundant false piety especially when all they can
do is generalize and offer no proof, much less specific proof.

The proof is right there for all to see. You choose to remain ignorant.


The proof isn't proof because some books in the library make it so.
Also,they turn their 'spesific', home made 'proof' into grand scale proof of
spieces developing slowly for billions of years which definetly hasn't been
proven in any way, shape or form. But this is their big leap of faith.
Saba
.
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Title: Re: Natural selection strikes (some prefer ignorance) 12 Dec 2007 02:17:19 PM
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On 8 Dec, 15:24, DärFläken <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

"curtjester1" <curtjest...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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Is viewing evolution as a religious myth coated with psuedo-scientific
jargon and imagination wrong?


It's so sad when people like yourself would rather remain ignorant when
the
facts are out there for everyone.


It's so sad to see redundant false piety especially when all they can
do is generalize and offer no proof, much less specific proof.

The proof is right there for all to see. You choose to remain ignorant.


The proof isn't proof because some books in the library make it so.

Then go to the Museums yourself as I did! The Museum of Natural History in
NYC has halls full of evidence for evolution. You only seem to know what
the fundy sites and your pastor tell you. You appear to be totally unaware
of the evidence. Did you know there is NO EVIDENCE the Hebrews wandered in
the desert all those years? Israeli arch's could find not one shred of
evidence such as a pot shard or bit of jewelry - nothing! Also, not one
scrap of evidence has been found for a flood that covered the entire earth
for a year.

Also,they turn their 'spesific', home made 'proof' into grand scale proof
of
spieces developing slowly for billions of years which definetly hasn't
been
proven in any way, shape or form. But this is their big leap of faith.

You seem ignorant of the evidence we have on evolution. Perhaps you can
watch some of the shows on the educational stations that cover the subject
if you don't care to read about it.


Saba

.
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Title: Re: Natural selection strikes (some prefer ignorance) 31 Dec 2007 10:28:13 PM
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"curtjester1" <curtjest...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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Is viewing evolution as a religious myth coated with psuedo-scientific
jargon and imagination wrong?


It's so sad when people like yourself would rather remain ignorant when the
facts are out there for everyone.


It's so sad to see redundant false piety especially when all they can
do is generalize and offer no proof, much less specific proof.

The proof is right there for all to see. You choose to remain ignorant.



The proof isn't proof because some books in the library make it so.


Then go to the Museums yourself as I did! The Museum of Natural History in NYC has halls full of
evidence for evolution. You only seem to know what the fundy sites and your pastor tell you. You
appear to be totally unaware of the evidence. Did you know there is NO EVIDENCE the Hebrews
wandered in the desert all those years? Israeli arch's could find not one shred of evidence such
as a pot shard or bit of jewelry - nothing! Also, not one scrap of evidence has been found for a
flood that covered the entire earth for a year.

Also,they turn their 'spesific', home made 'proof' into grand scale proof of
spieces developing slowly for billions of years which definetly hasn't been
proven in any way, shape or form. But this is their big leap of faith.


You seem ignorant of the evidence we have on evolution. Perhaps you can watch some of the shows
on the educational stations that cover the subject if you don't care to read about it.

I can't disguss this with someone who doesn't know science or logic.
One has to know that the first and most grave fallacy is to conclude from
something spesific (oh, we saw a flie change when put in this environment)
into something general (all flies,therefore animals 'turns' into other spieces
in this environment).. its all ***** and they are walloping in the first and
foremost fallacy known to anybody with an introduction course in philosophy.
You need to take one as you don't even grasp the simple concept of
fallacies in concluding things. They do this in a grand scale. Ok?
S



Saba


.
User: "Sanitys Little Helper"

Title: Re: Natural selection strikes (some prefer ignorance) 01 Jan 2008 05:34:33 AM
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"curtjester1" <curtjest...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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com...

Is viewing evolution as a religious myth coated with
psuedo-scientific jargon and imagination wrong?


It's so sad when people like yourself would rather remain ignorant
when the facts are out there for everyone.


It's so sad to see redundant false piety especially when all they
can do is generalize and offer no proof, much less specific proof.

The proof is right there for all to see. You choose to remain
ignorant.



The proof isn't proof because some books in the library make it so.


Then go to the Museums yourself as I did! The Museum of Natural
History in NYC has halls full of evidence for evolution. You only
seem to know what the fundy sites and your pastor tell you. You
appear to be totally unaware of the evidence. Did you know there is
NO EVIDENCE the Hebrews wandered in the desert all those years?
Israeli arch's could find not one shred of evidence such as a pot
shard or bit of jewelry - nothing! Also, not one scrap of evidence
has been found for a flood that covered the entire earth for a year.

Also,they turn their 'spesific', home made 'proof' into grand scale
proof of spieces developing slowly for billions of years which
definetly hasn't been proven in any way, shape or form. But this is
their big leap of faith.


You seem ignorant of the evidence we have on evolution. Perhaps you
can watch some of the shows on the educational stations that cover
the subject if you don't care to read about it.


I can't disguss this with someone who doesn't know science or logic.
One has to know that the first and most grave fallacy is to conclude
from something spesific (oh, we saw a flie change when put in this
environment) into something general (all flies,therefore animals
'turns' into other spieces in this environment).. its all ***** and
they are walloping in the first and foremost fallacy known to anybody
with an introduction course in philosophy. You need to take one as you
don't even grasp the simple concept of fallacies in concluding things.
They do this in a grand scale. Ok?

Got any evidence of your sky-daddy?
Didn't think so.
--
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Lord Mayor of Dis
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Title: Re: Natural selection strikes (some prefer ignorance) 01 Jan 2008 06:48:42 PM
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"curtjester1" <curtjest...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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com...

Is viewing evolution as a religious myth coated with
psuedo-scientific jargon and imagination wrong?


It's so sad when people like yourself would rather remain ignorant
when the facts are out there for everyone.


It's so sad to see redundant false piety especially when all they
can do is generalize and offer no proof, much less specific proof.

The proof is right there for all to see. You choose to remain
ignorant.



The proof isn't proof because some books in the library make it so.


Then go to the Museums yourself as I did! The Museum of Natural
History in NYC has halls full of evidence for evolution. You only
seem to know what the fundy sites and your pastor tell you. You
appear to be totally unaware of the evidence. Did you know there is
NO EVIDENCE the Hebrews wandered in the desert all those years?
Israeli arch's could find not one shred of evidence such as a pot
shard or bit of jewelry - nothing! Also, not one scrap of evidence
has been found for a flood that covered the entire earth for a year.

Also,they turn their 'spesific', home made 'proof' into grand scale
proof of spieces developing slowly for billions of years which
definetly hasn't been proven in any way, shape or form. But this is
their big leap of faith.


You seem ignorant of the evidence we have on evolution. Perhaps you
can watch some of the shows on the educational stations that cover
the subject if you don't care to read about it.


I can't disguss this with someone who doesn't know science or logic.
One has to know that the first and most grave fallacy is to conclude
from something spesific (oh, we saw a flie change when put in this
environment) into something general (all flies,therefore animals
'turns' into other spieces in this environment).. its all ***** and
they are walloping in the first and foremost fallacy known to anybody
with an introduction course in philosophy. You need to take one as you
don't even grasp the simple concept of fallacies in concluding things.
They do this in a grand scale. Ok?


Got any evidence of your sky-daddy?

Didn't think so.

That didn't address the ugliest fallacy done in evolution making theory.
S



--
David Silverman D.B.E.
aa #2208
Lord Mayor of Dis

And now, today's sponsor message:

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Title: Re: Natural selection strikes (some prefer ignorance) 02 Jan 2008 10:02:11 AM
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wrote:

"curtjester1" <curtjest...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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Is viewing evolution as a religious myth coated with
psuedo-scientific jargon and imagination wrong?


It's so sad when people like yourself would rather remain
ignorant when the facts are out there for everyone.


It's so sad to see redundant false piety especially when all they
can do is generalize and offer no proof, much less specific
proof.

The proof is right there for all to see. You choose to remain
ignorant.



The proof isn't proof because some books in the library make it
so.


Then go to the Museums yourself as I did! The Museum of Natural
History in NYC has halls full of evidence for evolution. You only
seem to know what the fundy sites and your pastor tell you. You
appear to be totally unaware of the evidence. Did you know there
is NO EVIDENCE the Hebrews wandered in the desert all those years?
Israeli arch's could find not one shred of evidence such as a pot
shard or bit of jewelry - nothing! Also, not one scrap of evidence
has been found for a flood that covered the entire earth for a
year.

Also,they turn their 'spesific', home made 'proof' into grand
scale proof of spieces developing slowly for billions of years
which definetly hasn't been proven in any way, shape or form. But
this is their big leap of faith.


You seem ignorant of the evidence we have on evolution. Perhaps
you can watch some of the shows on the educational stations that
cover the subject if you don't care to read about it.


I can't disguss this with someone who doesn't know science or logic.
One has to know that the first and most grave fallacy is to conclude
from something spesific (oh, we saw a flie change when put in this
environment) into something general (all flies,therefore animals
'turns' into other spieces in this environment).. its all *****
and they are walloping in the first and foremost fallacy known to
anybody with an introduction course in philosophy. You need to take
one as you don't even grasp the simple concept of fallacies in
concluding things. They do this in a grand scale. Ok?


Got any evidence of your sky-daddy?

Didn't think so.


That didn't address the ugliest fallacy done in evolution making
theory.

You don't have much comprehension of anything, do you? You aren't a
Jehovah's witness or something are you? That at least would explain why
you are such a fucking hypocrite and a liar, as well as why you have
zero comprehension even of what science is, let alone what it explains,
and it would also mean that basic logic eludes you, so pretty
comprehensively, you aren't in any position to raise issues about what
time of day it is, let alone evolution. At least not until you have
expalained to us why you believe in God, and explained it in a manner
that contains both evidence and logic.
Your call.
--
David Silverman D.B.E.
aa #2208
Lord Mayor of Dis
And now, today's sponsor message:
For the P.T. Barnum of non-verified medicine, it's got to be:
Earthquack.

.


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Title: Re: Natural selection strikes (some prefer ignorance) 01 Jan 2008 10:56:30 AM
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Is viewing evolution as a religious myth coated with
psuedo-scientific jargon and imagination wrong?


It's so sad when people like yourself would rather remain ignorant
when the facts are out there for everyone.


It's so sad to see redundant false piety especially when all they
can do is generalize and offer no proof, much less specific proof.

The proof is right there for all to see. You choose to remain
ignorant.



The proof isn't proof because some books in the library make it so.


Then go to the Museums yourself as I did! The Museum of Natural
History in NYC has halls full of evidence for evolution. You only
seem to know what the fundy sites and your pastor tell you. You
appear to be totally unaware of the evidence. Did you know there is
NO EVIDENCE the Hebrews wandered in the desert all those years?
Israeli arch's could find not one shred of evidence such as a pot
shard or bit of jewelry - nothing! Also, not one scrap of evidence
has been found for a flood that covered the entire earth for a year.

Also,they turn their 'spesific', home made 'proof' into grand scale
proof of spieces developing slowly for billions of years which
definetly hasn't been proven in any way, shape or form. But this is
their big leap of faith.


You seem ignorant of the evidence we have on evolution. Perhaps you
can watch some of the shows on the educational stations that cover
the subject if you don't care to read about it.


I can't disguss this with someone who doesn't know science or logic.
One has to know that the first and most grave fallacy is to conclude
from something spesific (oh, we saw a flie change when put in this
environment) into something general (all flies,therefore animals
'turns' into other spieces in this environment).. its all ***** and
they are walloping in the first and foremost fallacy known to anybody
with an introduction course in philosophy. You need to take one as you
don't even grasp the simple concept of fallacies in concluding things.
They do this in a grand scale. Ok?


Got any evidence of your sky-daddy?

Didn't think so.

She'll send you to a few fundy websites that use the bible to prove the
bible is true. They all follow the same path.



--
David Silverman D.B.E.
aa #2208
Lord Mayor of Dis

And now, today's sponsor message:

For the P.T. Barnum of non-verified medicine, it's got to be:
Earthquack.

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Title: Re: Natural selection strikes (some prefer ignorance) 01 Jan 2008 10:55:03 AM
"~s.a.b.a g.r.a.c.i.l.e~" <veronisc@frisurf.no> wrote in message
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You seem ignorant of the evidence we have on evolution. Perhaps you can
watch some of the shows on the educational stations that cover the
subject if you don't care to read about it.


I can't disguss this with someone who doesn't know science or logic.
One has to know that the first and most grave fallacy is to conclude from
something spesific (oh, we saw a flie change when put in this environment)
into something general (all flies,therefore animals 'turns' into other
spieces
in this environment).. its all ***** and they are walloping in the
first and
foremost fallacy known to anybody with an introduction course in
philosophy.
You need to take one as you don't even grasp the simple concept of
fallacies in concluding things. They do this in a grand scale. Ok?

So all the evidence for evolution isn't really there? They hallucinate the
rock record and the fossils? Eveyone who sees it is hallucinating?
Thousands of those who study the origins of man and animals are all liars?
Where is your evidence for a magical fantastical creation? Where is your
evidence for the gods?
.
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Title: Re: Natural selection strikes (some prefer ignorance) 01 Jan 2008 06:52:38 PM
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You seem ignorant of the evidence we have on evolution. Perhaps you can watch some of the shows
on the educational stations that cover the subject if you don't care to read about it.


I can't disguss this with someone who doesn't know science or logic.
One has to know that the first and most grave fallacy is to conclude from
something spesific (oh, we saw a flie change when put in this environment)
into something general (all flies,therefore animals 'turns' into other spieces
in this environment).. its all ***** and they are walloping in the first and
foremost fallacy known to anybody with an introduction course in philosophy.
You need to take one as you don't even grasp the simple concept of
fallacies in concluding things. They do this in a grand scale. Ok?


So all the evidence for evolution isn't really there? They hallucinate the rock record and the
fossils? Eveyone who sees it is hallucinating? Thousands of those who study the origins of man
and animals are all liars? Where is your evidence for a magical fantastical creation? Where is
your evidence for the gods?

One can fill up a library with *****, yes. Look at the freaking WTS's
endless material of crap and all the millions believing every single word of it.
So dont' tell me it's not possible to do that.
S


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User: "=?iso-8859-1?B?RORyRmzka2Vu?="

Title: Re: Natural selection strikes (some prefer ignorance) 02 Jan 2008 05:19:44 PM
"~s.a.b.a g.r.a.c.i.l.e~" <veronisc@frisurf.no> wrote in message
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"DärFläken" <invalid@invalid.invalid> skrev i melding
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"~s.a.b.a g.r.a.c.i.l.e~" <veronisc@frisurf.no> wrote in message
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You seem ignorant of the evidence we have on evolution. Perhaps you
can watch some of the shows on the educational stations that cover the
subject if you don't care to read about it.


I can't disguss this with someone who doesn't know science or logic.
One has to know that the first and most grave fallacy is to conclude
from
something spesific (oh, we saw a flie change when put in this
environment)
into something general (all flies,therefore animals 'turns' into other
spieces
in this environment).. its all ***** and they are walloping in the
first and
foremost fallacy known to anybody with an introduction course in
philosophy.
You need to take one as you don't even grasp the simple concept of
fallacies in concluding things. They do this in a grand scale. Ok?


So all the evidence for evolution isn't really there? They hallucinate
the rock record and the fossils? Eveyone who sees it is hallucinating?
Thousands of those who study the origins of man and animals are all
liars? Where is your evidence for a magical fantastical creation? Where
is your evidence for the gods?


One can fill up a library with *****, yes. Look at the freaking WTS's
endless material of crap and all the millions believing every single word
of it.
So dont' tell me it's not possible to do that.

The bones are REAL, the ***** from the WTS is mere words on a page. Why
are you changing the subject? I saw many fossils myself at the Museum of
Natural History in NYC. They exist. They are real.


S




.


User: "~s.a.b.a g.r.a.c.i.l.e~"

Title: Re: Natural selection strikes (some prefer ignorance) 01 Jan 2008 06:50:13 PM
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"~s.a.b.a g.r.a.c.i.l.e~" <veronisc@frisurf.no> wrote in message
news:Wfedne7BLf3rXOTaRVnzvQA@telenor.com...

You seem ignorant of the evidence we have on evolution. Perhaps you can watch some of the shows
on the educational stations that cover the subject if you don't care to read about it.


I can't disguss this with someone who doesn't know science or logic.
One has to know that the first and most grave fallacy is to conclude from
something spesific (oh, we saw a flie change when put in this environment)
into something general (all flies,therefore animals 'turns' into other spieces
in this environment).. its all ***** and they are walloping in the first and
foremost fallacy known to anybody with an introduction course in philosophy.
You need to take one as you don't even grasp the simple concept of
fallacies in concluding things. They do this in a grand scale. Ok?


So all the evidence for evolution isn't really there? They hallucinate the rock record and the
fossils? Eveyone who sees it is hallucinating? Thousands of those who study the origins of man
and animals are all liars? Where is your evidence for a magical fantastical creation? Where is
your evidence for the gods?

look, you really need to not be so gullible. Yes, its all made up, the illustrations
in the books are very catching, and like JW's they link things up towards their
"evidence" and it looks so dandy its easy to fall for it :)
S


.
User: "=?iso-8859-1?B?RORyRmzka2Vu?="

Title: Re: Natural selection strikes (some prefer ignorance) 02 Jan 2008 05:17:58 PM
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news:Wfedne7BLf3rXOTaRVnzvQA@telenor.com...

You seem ignorant of the evidence we have on evolution. Perhaps you
can watch some of the shows on the educational stations that cover the
subject if you don't care to read about it.


I can't disguss this with someone who doesn't know science or logic.
One has to know that the first and most grave fallacy is to conclude
from
something spesific (oh, we saw a flie change when put in this
environment)
into something general (all flies,therefore animals 'turns' into other
spieces
in this environment).. its all ***** and they are walloping in the
first and
foremost fallacy known to anybody with an introduction course in
philosophy.
You need to take one as you don't even grasp the simple concept of
fallacies in concluding things. They do this in a grand scale. Ok?


So all the evidence for evolution isn't really there? They hallucinate
the rock record and the fossils? Eveyone who sees it is hallucinating?
Thousands of those who study the origins of man and animals are all
liars? Where is your evidence for a magical fantastical creation? Where
is your evidence for the gods?


look, you really need to not be so gullible. Yes, its all made up, the
illustrations
in the books are very catching,

I saw the actual fossils in the Museum Of Natural History in NYC. They are
not made up. They are real. Why do you deny they exist and are what they
are?
and like JW's they link things up towards their

"evidence" and it looks so dandy its easy to fall for it :)

S




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User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Natural selection strikes (some prefer ignorance) 01 Jan 2008 04:12:29 PM
On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 05:28:13 +0100, ~s.a.b.a g.r.a.c.i.l.e~ wrote:

I can't disguss this with someone who doesn't know science or logic. One
has to know that the first and most grave fallacy is to conclude from
something spesific (oh, we saw a flie change when put in this
environment) into something general (all flies,therefore animals 'turns'
into other spieces in this environment).. its all ***** and they are
walloping in the first and foremost fallacy known to anybody with an
introduction course in philosophy. You need to take one as you don't
even grasp the simple concept of fallacies in concluding things. They do
this in a grand scale. Ok?

Let's see. A choice between believing some of the brightest minds of our
age or a Usenet poster that can't spell.
Boy, that's a hard one!
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
“The most dangerous man to any government is the
man who is able to think things out... without regard
to the prevailing superstitions and taboos.
Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the
government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.â€
- H. L. Mencken
.
User: "~s.a.b.a g.r.a.c.i.l.e~"

Title: Re: Natural selection strikes (some prefer ignorance) 01 Jan 2008 06:50:58 PM
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> skrev i melding news:dfqq45-21f.ln1@eac.exists.not...

On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 05:28:13 +0100, ~s.a.b.a g.r.a.c.i.l.e~ wrote:

I can't disguss this with someone who doesn't know science or logic. One
has to know that the first and most grave fallacy is to conclude from
something spesific (oh, we saw a flie change when put in this
environment) into something general (all flies,therefore animals 'turns'
into other spieces in this environment).. its all ***** and they are
walloping in the first and foremost fallacy known to anybody with an
introduction course in philosophy. You need to take one as you don't
even grasp the simple concept of fallacies in concluding things. They do
this in a grand scale. Ok?



Let's see. A choice between believing some of the brightest minds of our
age or a Usenet poster that can't spell.

Oh yea the spelling argument.. lol You really have me now! lol.
S



Boy, that's a hard one!

--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"The most dangerous man to any government is the
man who is able to think things out... without regard
to the prevailing superstitions and taboos.
Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the
government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable."

- H. L. Mencken

.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Natural selection strikes (some prefer ignorance) 02 Jan 2008 05:17:21 AM
On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 01:50:58 +0100, ~s.a.b.a g.r.a.c.i.l.e~ wrote:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> skrev i melding
news:dfqq45-21f.ln1@eac.exists.not...

On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 05:28:13 +0100, ~s.a.b.a g.r.a.c.i.l.e~ wrote:

I can't disguss this with someone who doesn't know science or logic.
One has to know that the first and most grave fallacy is to conclude
from something spesific (oh, we saw a flie change when put in this
environment) into something general (all flies,therefore animals
'turns' into other spieces in this environment).. its all ***** and
they are walloping in the first and foremost fallacy known to anybody
with an introduction course in philosophy. You need to take one as you
don't even grasp the simple concept of fallacies in concluding things.
They do this in a grand scale. Ok?



Let's see. A choice between believing some of the brightest minds of
our age or a Usenet poster that can't spell.


Oh yea the spelling argument.. lol You really have me now! lol.

Yes, indeed.
When you so arrogantly claim to be more intelligent and better educated
than hundreds, even thousands of scholars, maybe you should be able to
spell.
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"Oh Log Cabin, full of taste, my stomach is with thee.
Blessed are three among syrups..."
- Homer
.


User: "ken"

Title: Re: Natural selection strikes (some prefer ignorance) 01 Jan 2008 07:33:13 PM
On Jan 1, 2:12=A0pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

Let's see. A choice between believing some of the brightest minds of our
age or a Usenet poster that can't spell.

Boy, that's a hard one!

--
Mark K. Bilbo =A0

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0
But not as hard as his head
Compulsive Delusionary Behaviour
"A very strong case can be made that many of the steadfastly-
religiously-convinced are actually mentally ill. The pleasant
escape from reality that they so often indulge in is no
more than the escape psychotics experience when they seek
refuge from reality in a delusional dreamworld of imaginary
beliefs."
(DSM III-R is the official catalogue of mental illness by the
American
Psychiatric Association.
.
User: "~s.a.b.a g.r.a.c.i.l.e~"

Title: Re: Natural selection strikes (some prefer ignorance) 01 Jan 2008 08:17:48 PM
"ken" <flakey714@aol.com> skrev i melding
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On Jan 1, 2:12 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

Let's see. A choice between believing some of the brightest minds of our
age or a Usenet poster that can't spell.

Boy, that's a hard one!

--
Mark K. Bilbo

But not as hard as his head
Compulsive Delusionary Behaviour
"A very strong case can be made that many of the steadfastly-
religiously-convinced are actually mentally ill. The pleasant
escape from reality that they so often indulge in is no
more than the escape psychotics experience when they seek
refuge from reality in a delusional dreamworld of imaginary
beliefs."
--well duh, that explain the evolution theoretics acting as total
maniacs :)'
S
(DSM III-R is the official catalogue of mental illness by the
American
Psychiatric Association.
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Natural selection strikes (some prefer ignorance) 02 Jan 2008 06:01:04 AM
On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 03:17:48 +0100, ~s.a.b.a g.r.a.c.i.l.e~ wrote:

"ken" <flakey714@aol.com> skrev i melding
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aa36-8fed035dabe4@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com...

On Jan 1, 2:12 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

Let's see. A choice between believing some of the brightest minds of
our age or a Usenet poster that can't spell.

Boy, that's a hard one!

--
Mark K. Bilbo


But not as hard as his head

Compulsive Delusionary Behaviour

"A very strong case can be made that many of the steadfastly-
religiously-convinced are actually mentally ill. The pleasant escape
from reality that they so often indulge in is no more than the
escape psychotics experience when they seek refuge from reality in a
delusional dreamworld of imaginary
beliefs."


--well duh, that explain the evolution theoretics acting as total
maniacs :)'

Oh certainly. Thousands of educated, credentialed, experienced scientists
are all just a pack of fools, felled by a Usenet troll.
Amazing stuff ennit?
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
“I believe in only one thing: liberty; but I do not
believe in liberty enough to want to force it upon anyone.â€
- H. L. Mencken
.







User: "curtjester1"

Title: Re: Natural selection strikes (some prefer ignorance) 09 Dec 2007 01:04:50 PM
On 8 Dec, 16:53, D=E4rFl=E4ken <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

"curtjester1" <curtjest...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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On 8 Dec, 15:24, D=E4rFl=E4ken <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

"curtjester1" <curtjest...@hotmail.com> wrote in message


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Is viewing evolution as a religious myth coated with psuedo-scientific=
jargon and imagination wrong?


It's so sad when people like yourself would rather remain ignorant when
the
facts are out there for everyone.


It's so sad to see redundant false piety especially when all they can
do is generalize and offer no proof, much less specific proof.

The proof is right there for all to see. You choose to remain ignorant.

CJ

It's so appropo, I need to use it again.
It's so sad to see redundant false piety especially when all they can
do is generalize and offer no proof, much less specific proof.
CJ
.
User: "=?iso-8859-1?B?RORyRmzka2Vu?="

Title: Re: Natural selection strikes (some prefer ignorance) 09 Dec 2007 03:35:29 PM
"curtjester1" <curtjester1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On 8 Dec, 16:53, DärFläken <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

"curtjester1" <curtjest...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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On 8 Dec, 15:24, DärFläken <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

"curtjester1" <curtjest...@hotmail.com> wrote in message


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Is viewing evolution as a religious myth coated with psuedo-scientific
jargon and imagination wrong?


It's so sad when people like yourself would rather remain ignorant when
the
facts are out there for everyone.


It's so sad to see redundant false piety especially when all they can
do is generalize and offer no proof, much less specific proof.

The proof is right there for all to see. You choose to remain ignorant.

CJ

It's so appropo, I need to use it again.
It's so sad to see redundant false piety especially when all they can
do is generalize and offer no proof, much less specific proof.
The proof is right there for all to see. You choose to remain ignorant,
blind and dumb.
CJ
.
User: "curtjester1"

Title: Re: Natural selection strikes (some prefer ignorance) 10 Dec 2007 03:00:06 PM
On 9 Dec, 16:35, D=E4rFl=E4ken <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

"curtjester1" <curtjest...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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On 8 Dec, 15:24, D=E4rFl=E4ken <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:


"curtjester1" <curtjest...@hotmail.com> wrote in message


news:f6a40993-1dd7-4ee2-9ef9-aa1e0125a521@p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com.=

...


Is viewing evolution as a religious myth coated with psuedo-scientif=

ic

jargon and imagination wrong?


It's so sad when people like yourself would rather remain ignorant whe=

n

the
facts are out there for everyone.


It's so sad to see redundant false piety especially when all they can
do is generalize and offer no proof, much less specific proof.


The proof is right there for all to see. You choose to remain ignorant.


CJ


It's so appropo, I need to use it again.

It's so sad to see redundant false piety especially when all they can
do is generalize and offer no proof, much less specific proof.

The proof is right there for all to see. You choose to remain ignorant,
blind and dumb.

CJ- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

So, de-prove it.
http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/
CJ
.
User: "=?iso-8859-1?B?RORyRmzka2Vu?="

Title: Re: Natural selection strikes (some prefer ignorance) 10 Dec 2007 11:38:40 PM
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On 8 Dec, 15:24, DärFläken <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:


"curtjester1" <curtjest...@hotmail.com> wrote in message


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Is viewing evolution as a religious myth coated with
psuedo-scientific
jargon and imagination wrong?


It's so sad when people like yourself would rather remain ignorant
when
the
facts are out there for everyone.


It's so sad to see redundant false piety especially when all they can
do is generalize and offer no proof, much less specific proof.


The proof is right there for all to see. You choose to remain ignorant.


CJ


It's so appropo, I need to use it again.

It's so sad to see redundant false piety especially when all they can
do is generalize and offer no proof, much less specific proof.

The proof is right there for all to see. You choose to remain ignorant,
blind and dumb.

CJ- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

So, de-prove it.
Google is your friend. Also, see your own Public Library and the Museum Of
Natural History for the FACTS of evolution.
http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/
Creationism is not science. It's superstition.
CJ
.
User: "curtjester1"

Title: Re: Natural selection strikes (some prefer ignorance) 11 Dec 2007 09:47:57 AM
On 11 Dec, 00:38, D=E4rFl=E4ken <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

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"curtjester1" <curtjest...@hotmail.com> wrote in message


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...

On 8 Dec, 15:24, D=E4rFl=E4ken <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:


"curtjester1" <curtjest...@hotmail.com> wrote in message


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m...


Is viewing evolution as a religious myth coated with
psuedo-scientific
jargon and imagination wrong?


It's so sad when people like yourself would rather remain ignorant
when
the
facts are out there for everyone.


It's so sad to see redundant false piety especially when all they can
do is generalize and offer no proof, much less specific proof.


The proof is right there for all to see. You choose to remain ignorant=

..


CJ


It's so appropo, I need to use it again.


It's so sad to see redundant false piety especially when all they can
do is generalize and offer no proof, much less specific proof.


The proof is right there for all to see. You choose to remain ignorant,
blind and dumb.


CJ- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


So, de-prove it.

Google is your friend. Also, see your own Public Library and the Museum O=

f

Natural History for the FACTS of evolution.

http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/

Creationism is not science. It's superstition.

CJ- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

IOW, you can't prove it, nor support it, but relegate it to some third
party that you cannot even get support from, and then piously
generalize in a negative reduntant manner about something that is well-
supported by logic and common sense.
CJ
.
User: "=?iso-8859-1?B?RORyRmzka2Vu?="

Title: Re: Natural selection strikes (some prefer ignorance) 11 Dec 2007 11:14:47 AM
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On 8 Dec, 15:24, DärFläken <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote:


"curtjester1" <curtjest...@hotmail.com> wrote in message


news:f6a40993-1dd7-4ee2-9ef9-aa1e0125a521@p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...


Is viewing evolution as a religious myth coated with
psuedo-scientific
jargon and imagination wrong?


It's so sad when people like yourself would rather remain ignorant
when
the
facts are out there for everyone.


It's so sad to see redundant false piety especially when all they can
do is generalize and offer no proof, much less specific proof.


The proof is right there for all to see. You choose to remain
ignorant.


CJ


It's so appropo, I need to use it again.


It's so sad to see redundant false piety especially when all they can
do is generalize and offer no proof, much less specific proof.


The proof is right there for all to see. You choose to remain ignorant,
blind and dumb.


CJ- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


So, de-prove it.

Google is your friend. Also, see your own Public Library and the Museum
Of
Natural History for the FACTS of evolution.

http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/

Creationism is not science. It's superstition.

CJ- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

IOW, you can't prove it, nor support it,
Sure I can but you refuse to or are unable to learn anything. You expect to
learn about evolution and all the evidence from a short message on this
group? That too shows your utter ignorance. Where is the proof or evidence
of your gods and demons?
but relegate it to some third
party that you cannot even get support from,
You want everything know about evolution explained in a few sentences?
and then piously
generalize in a negative reduntant manner about something that is well-
supported by logic and common sense.
What logic and common sense supports myths and fables about monster demons
and blood lusting gods?
CJ
.
User: "~s.a.b.a g.r.a.c.i.l.e~"

Title: Re: Natural selection strikes (some prefer ignorance) 12 Dec 2007 12:53:18 PM
A funny commercial.. but how, through William Dembski's explanatory filter,
would you conclude that this sequence were made and not a result of coincidences?
Comparing this to the analygo of a tornado on a junkyard producing a boeing 747, what's
the difference? Well, here, only a microtornado, a breath of air onto the Honda set,
and the whole sequence would fail. This is called irreducible complexity
and such is life, in real life. Watch creation in action:
http://www.steelcitysfinest.com/HondaAccordAd.htm
btw, evolution theory stems from an old Hindu myth about creatures
developing into higher forms.. it's a mythspun theory from beginning to
end. One should be able to at least recognise its a leap of faith involved
in it, a big one in fact, as the evidence on a large scale is contradicting
it. But nevermind that, I guess.
Saba
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User: "=?iso-8859-1?B?RORyRmzka2Vu?="

Title: Re: Natural selection strikes (some prefer ignorance) 12 Dec 2007 02:12:21 PM
"~s.a.b.a g.r.a.c.i.l.e~" <veronisc@frisurf.no> wrote in message
news:xoWdnem76Ze_s_3aRVnzvQA@telenor.com...

A funny commercial.. but how, through William Dembski's explanatory filter,
would you conclude that this sequence were made and not a result of
coincidences?
Comparing this to the analygo of a tornado on a junkyard producing a
boeing 747, what's
the difference?

You're trying to compare something *biological* to something that is not
biological. That can't be done. It's like comparing a shoe with a kitten or
a tree with a chair.
Well, here, only a microtornado, a breath of air onto the Honda set,

and the whole sequence would fail. This is called irreducible complexity
and such is life, in real life. Watch creation in action:

http://www.steelcitysfinest.com/HondaAccordAd.htm


btw, evolution theory stems from an old Hindu myth about creatures
developing into higher forms..

Wrong Saba, it stems from the *evidence* found over the past 150 years. It
has nothing to do with Hinduism or any other religious belief system. You
are unaware of the evidence because your schools don't teach evolution and
you refuse to read anything but religious non-scientific sites.
it's a mythspun theory from beginning to

end. One should be able to at least recognise its a leap of faith involved
in it, a big one in fact, as the evidence on a large scale is
contradicting
it. But nevermind that, I guess.

Which evidence contradicts it? And don't start comparing coats to onions or
hats to puppies. One is biological and the other is not. What *scientific
evidence* do you have for a magical creation? I mean NEUTRAL evidence
produced by researchers, archaeologists, biologists, etc? All you've
produced so far are religious sites that provide no evidence at all.


Saba

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User: "Christopher A.Lee"

Title: Re: Natural selection strikes (some prefer ignorance) 12 Dec 2007 02:18:10 PM
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:12:21 -0600, DärFläken
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:


"~s.a.b.a g.r.a.c.i.l.e~" <veronisc@frisurf.no> wrote in message
news:xoWdnem76Ze_s_3aRVnzvQA@telenor.com...

A funny commercial.. but how, through William Dembski's explanatory filter,
would you conclude that this sequence were made and not a result of
coincidences?
Comparing this to the analygo of a tornado on a junkyard producing a
boeing 747, what's
the difference?


You're trying to compare something *biological* to something that is not
biological. That can't be done. It's like comparing a shoe with a kitten or
a tree with a chair.

The funny thing is that the 747 is a non-biological evolution from
earlier planes. It makes use of what was learned with earlier planes
which in turn made use of what went before. All the way back to the
earliest string and canvas rigs, whose builders had observed kites
etc.
It didn't all happen at once.
The "tornado and junkyard" is a dishonest canard.
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User: "=?iso-8859-1?B?RORyRmzka2Vu?="

Title: Re: Natural selection strikes (some prefer ignorance) 12 Dec 2007 02:57:59 PM
"Christopher A.Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:d6g0m39hsak07u1el7hqmt92co1010uids@4ax.com...

On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:12:21 -0600, DärFläken
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:


"~s.a.b.a g.r.a.c.i.l.e~" <veronisc@frisurf.no> wrote in message
news:xoWdnem76Ze_s_3aRVnzvQA@telenor.com...

A funny commercial.. but how, through William Dembski's explanatory
filter,
would you conclude that this sequence were made and not a result of
coincidences?
Comparing this to the analygo of a tornado on a junkyard producing a
boeing 747, what's
the difference?


You're trying to compare something *biological* to something that is not
biological. That can't be done. It's like comparing a shoe with a kitten
or
a tree with a chair.


The funny thing is that the 747 is a non-biological evolution from
earlier planes. It makes use of what was learned with earlier planes
which in turn made use of what went before. All the way back to the
earliest string and canvas rigs, whose builders had observed kites
etc.

It didn't all happen at once.

The "tornado and junkyard" is a dishonest canard.

This is true, all too true.


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