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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" |
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01 Dec 2005 07:13:43 AM |
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Re: On-line Chat with HeartDoc (12/08/05) |
"Bob (this one)" wrote:
Roy Mock wrote:
Jesus tells us not to judge others unless we are above reproof (Matt 7:1-5).
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge
others, you will be judged, and with the same measure you use, it will
be measured to you." (Matthew 7:1-2)
He says judge but be willing to be judged by the same criteria.
That is not what I discern.
That is,
don't be a hypocrite.
In truth, hypocrites can't help themselves. That would be like telling
a leopard to change its spots.
It calls upon - echoes - his first order which is
about love.
Actually, the LORD's first commandment is about love **and** loyalty to
GOD.
To judge lovingly is to hope for the same in return.
"Just as the heart does not command the head, those who choose to judge
do so without love."
To
judge forgivingly is to invite the same treatment.
"Without love there can be no forgiveness."
That's what the beam and mote are about. Judging with clear eyes and not
offering judgements that condemn behavior in others when that is the
same as what we are doing. It's about honest judgement. For others and
self. It calls for loving neighbors as oneself. And unmistakably loving
oneself.
"The mocker seeks wisdom and finds none, but knowledge comes easily to
the discerning." (Proverbs 14:6)
Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
this thread here during the next on-line chat (12/08/05):
http://tinyurl.com/cpayh
For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:
http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt
In Christ's love always,
Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/b6xwk
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| User: "Bob this one" |
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| Title: Re: On-line Chat with HeartDoc (12/08/05) |
01 Dec 2005 07:53:37 AM |
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
"Bob (this one)" wrote:
Roy Mock wrote:
Jesus tells us not to judge others unless we are above reproof (Matt 7:1-5).
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge
others, you will be judged, and with the same measure you use, it will
be measured to you." (Matthew 7:1-2)
He says judge but be willing to be judged by the same criteria.
That is not what I discern.
<LOL> Who gives a ***** what you "discern?" What you "discern" has
already been shown to be at odds with any reality. Your self-excusing
and self-congratulating interpretations are about as funny as anything
I've seen. More transparent than your lies.
That is, don't be a hypocrite.
In truth, hypocrites can't help themselves. That would be like telling
a leopard to change its spots.
Hey, inconsistent moron, aren't you the one who says we all have free will?
It calls upon - echoes - his first order which is
about love.
Actually, the LORD's first commandment is about love **and** loyalty to
GOD.
To judge lovingly is to hope for the same in return.
"Just as the heart does not command the head, those who choose to judge
do so without love."
More fake quotes from Chung. :-) Hilarious foolishness to try to imbue
these flatulent homilies with added significance by punctuation. Could
Chung be more shallow and vain?
To judge forgivingly is to invite the same treatment.
"Without love there can be no forgiveness."
Bwah... Is this the same Chung who said that others are unable to
disengage? Has he not read the post to which he replied? Did he miss the
observation about judging lovingly? Must have...
That's what the beam and mote are about. Judging with clear eyes and not
offering judgements that condemn behavior in others when that is the
same as what we are doing. It's about honest judgement. For others and
self. It calls for loving neighbors as oneself. And unmistakably loving
oneself.
"The mocker seeks wisdom and finds none, but knowledge comes easily to
the discerning." (Proverbs 14:6)
The bullshitter who can't offer substance quotes other references and
authorities instead of dealing directly with issues. That way, it
becomes "don't blame me, I'm just quoting God" and, once again, Chung
evades, slipping and sliding, oozing his way around the genuine, sincere
people.
Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
this thread here during the next on-line chat (12/08/05):
According to the header of this and your other notes, you're posting
through supernews. I think it would be wonderful for lots of people to
tell Supernews at <abuse@supernews.com> how you're spamming groups that
are specifically off-topic for these discussions. And how you're baiting
people with "fighting words" deliberately trying to troll the groups and
get strong and angry reactions. As you have. :-)
Just one guy's thoughts.
Pastorio
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| User: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" |
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| Title: Re: On-line Chat with HeartDoc (12/08/05) |
01 Dec 2005 11:48:06 AM |
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"Bob (this one)" wrote:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
"Bob (this one)" wrote:
Roy Mock wrote:
Jesus tells us not to judge others unless we are above reproof (Matt 7:1-5).
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge
others, you will be judged, and with the same measure you use, it will
be measured to you." (Matthew 7:1-2)
He says judge but be willing to be judged by the same criteria.
That is not what I discern.
<LOL>
"Even in laughter the heart may ache..." (Proverbs 14:13)
Who gives a ***** what you "discern?"
"A fool shows his annoyance at once..." (Proverbs 12:16)
What you "discern" has
already been shown to be at odds with any reality. Your self-excusing
and self-congratulating interpretations are about as funny as anything
I've seen. More transparent than your lies.
"A mocker resents correction..." (Proverbs 15:12)
That is, don't be a hypocrite.
In truth, hypocrites can't help themselves. That would be like telling
a leopard to change its spots.
Hey, inconsistent moron, aren't you the one who says we all have free will?
Free will is not omnipotence.
It calls upon - echoes - his first order which is
about love.
Actually, the LORD's first commandment is about love **and** loyalty to
GOD.
To judge lovingly is to hope for the same in return.
"Just as the heart does not command the head, those who choose to judge
do so without love."
More fake quotes from Chung. :-) Hilarious foolishness to try to imbue
these flatulent homilies with added significance by punctuation. Could
Chung be more shallow and vain?
"He who winks with his eye is plotting perversity..." (Proverbs 16:30)
To judge forgivingly is to invite the same treatment.
"Without love there can be no forgiveness."
Bwah... Is this the same Chung who said that others are unable to
disengage? Has he not read the post to which he replied? Did he miss the
observation about judging lovingly? Must have...
"He who loves a quarrel loves sin..." (Proverbs 17:19)
That's what the beam and mote are about. Judging with clear eyes and not
offering judgements that condemn behavior in others when that is the
same as what we are doing. It's about honest judgement. For others and
self. It calls for loving neighbors as oneself. And unmistakably loving
oneself.
"The mocker seeks wisdom and finds none, but knowledge comes easily to
the discerning." (Proverbs 14:6)
The bullshitter who can't offer substance quotes other references and
authorities instead of dealing directly with issues. That way, it
becomes "don't blame me, I'm just quoting God" and, once again, Chung
evades, slipping and sliding, oozing his way around the genuine, sincere
people.
"Before his downfall a man's heart is proud..." (Proverbs 18:12)
Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
this thread here during the next on-line chat (12/08/05):
According to the header of this and your other notes, you're posting
through supernews. I think it would be wonderful for lots of people to
tell Supernews at <abuse@supernews.com> how you're spamming groups that
are specifically off-topic for these discussions. And how you're baiting
people with "fighting words" deliberately trying to troll the groups and
get strong and angry reactions. As you have. :-)
Just one guy's thoughts.
Pastorio
"A man's own folly ruins his life, yet his heart rages against the
LORD." (Proverbs 19:3)
Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
this thread here during the next on-line chat (12/08/05):
http://tinyurl.com/cpayh
For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:
http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt
In Christ's love always,
Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/b6xwk
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| User: "Bob this one" |
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| Title: Chung's bumper-sticker theology |
01 Dec 2005 12:41:37 PM |
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
That is not what I discern.
"Even in laughter the heart may ache..." (Proverbs 14:13)
"A mocker resents correction..." (Proverbs 15:12)
In truth, hypocrites can't help themselves. That would be like telling
a leopard to change its spots.
Free will is not omnipotence.
"Just as the heart does not command the head, those who choose to judge
do so without love."
"He who winks with his eye is plotting perversity..." (Proverbs 16:30)
"Without love there can be no forgiveness."
"He who loves a quarrel loves sin..." (Proverbs 17:19)
"The mocker seeks wisdom and finds none, but knowledge comes easily to
the discerning." (Proverbs 14:6)
"Before his downfall a man's heart is proud..." (Proverbs 18:12)
"A man's own folly ruins his life, yet his heart rages against the
LORD." (Proverbs 19:3)
This is what substitutes for thinking from Chung.
Sad, sad little show he puts on.
Pastorio
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: On-line Chat with HeartDoc (12/08/05) |
01 Dec 2005 01:48:38 PM |
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On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 12:48:06 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
"Bob (this one)" wrote:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
"Bob (this one)" wrote:
Roy Mock wrote:
Jesus tells us not to judge others unless we are above reproof (Matt 7:1-5).
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge
others, you will be judged, and with the same measure you use, it will
be measured to you." (Matthew 7:1-2)
He says judge but be willing to be judged by the same criteria.
That is not what I discern.
<LOL>
"Even in laughter the heart may ache..." (Proverbs 14:13)
The psychopath is too self-centred to understand just how meaningless
the bible is to non-Christians. So he shows just how stupid he is by
quoting it.
Who gives a ***** what you "discern?"
"A fool shows his annoyance at once..." (Proverbs 12:16)
Who goves a ***** what the bible says?
What you "discern" has
already been shown to be at odds with any reality. Your self-excusing
and self-congratulating interpretations are about as funny as anything
I've seen. More transparent than your lies.
"A mocker resents correction..." (Proverbs 15:12)
Nobody is mocking anything, liar. Nor have you corrected anything. Why
do you continue to bear false witness, sanctimonious hypocrite?
That is, don't be a hypocrite.
In truth, hypocrites can't help themselves. That would be like telling
a leopard to change its spots.
Hey, inconsistent moron, aren't you the one who says we all have free will?
Free will is not omnipotence.
You're the only one pretending it is, liar.
[rest of this necrophiliac sodomist's incredible stupidity snipped]
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| User: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" |
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| Title: Re: On-line Chat with HeartDoc (12/08/05) |
01 Dec 2005 02:00:06 PM |
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"Christopher A. Lee" wrote:
On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 12:48:06 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
"Bob (this one)" wrote:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
"Bob (this one)" wrote:
Roy Mock wrote:
Jesus tells us not to judge others unless we are above reproof (Matt 7:1-5).
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge
others, you will be judged, and with the same measure you use, it will
be measured to you." (Matthew 7:1-2)
He says judge but be willing to be judged by the same criteria.
That is not what I discern.
<LOL>
"Even in laughter the heart may ache..." (Proverbs 14:13)
The psychopath is too self-centred to understand just how meaningless
the bible is to non-Christians. So he shows just how stupid he is by
quoting it.
Who gives a ***** what you "discern?"
"A fool shows his annoyance at once..." (Proverbs 12:16)
Who goves a ***** what the bible says?
What you "discern" has
already been shown to be at odds with any reality. Your self-excusing
and self-congratulating interpretations are about as funny as anything
I've seen. More transparent than your lies.
"A mocker resents correction..." (Proverbs 15:12)
Nobody is mocking anything, liar. Nor have you corrected anything. Why
do you continue to bear false witness, sanctimonious hypocrite?
That is, don't be a hypocrite.
In truth, hypocrites can't help themselves. That would be like telling
a leopard to change its spots.
Hey, inconsistent moron, aren't you the one who says we all have free will?
Free will is not omnipotence.
You're the only one pretending it is, liar.
[rest of this necrophiliac sodomist's incredible stupidity snipped]
Those with evil in their heart suffer photophobic tachyphylaxis around
the light of truth.
Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
this thread here during the next on-line chat (12/08/05):
http://tinyurl.com/cpayh
For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:
http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt
In Christ's love always,
Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/b6xwk
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: On-line Chat with HeartDoc (12/08/05) |
01 Dec 2005 02:35:07 PM |
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On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 15:00:06 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
"Christopher A. Lee" wrote:
On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 12:48:06 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
"Bob (this one)" wrote:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
"Bob (this one)" wrote:
Roy Mock wrote:
Jesus tells us not to judge others unless we are above reproof (Matt 7:1-5).
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge
others, you will be judged, and with the same measure you use, it will
be measured to you." (Matthew 7:1-2)
He says judge but be willing to be judged by the same criteria.
That is not what I discern.
<LOL>
"Even in laughter the heart may ache..." (Proverbs 14:13)
The psychopath is too self-centred to understand just how meaningless
the bible is to non-Christians. So he shows just how stupid he is by
quoting it.
Who gives a ***** what you "discern?"
"A fool shows his annoyance at once..." (Proverbs 12:16)
Who goves a ***** what the bible says?
What you "discern" has
already been shown to be at odds with any reality. Your self-excusing
and self-congratulating interpretations are about as funny as anything
I've seen. More transparent than your lies.
"A mocker resents correction..." (Proverbs 15:12)
Nobody is mocking anything, liar. Nor have you corrected anything. Why
do you continue to bear false witness, sanctimonious hypocrite?
That is, don't be a hypocrite.
In truth, hypocrites can't help themselves. That would be like telling
a leopard to change its spots.
Hey, inconsistent moron, aren't you the one who says we all have free will?
Free will is not omnipotence.
You're the only one pretending it is, liar.
[rest of this necrophiliac sodomist's incredible stupidity snipped]
Those with evil in their heart suffer photophobic tachyphylaxis around
the light of truth.
The only one with evil "in his heart" is yourself, psychopathic liar
who fools nobody but yourself.
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| User: "Tony P." |
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| Title: Re: On-line Chat with HeartDoc (12/08/05) |
01 Dec 2005 05:45:11 PM |
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In article <3lkuo1lrnq7iqqc2icpfkcetal5ejitg4t@4ax.com>,
calee@optonline.net says...
On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 12:48:06 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
"Bob (this one)" wrote:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
"Bob (this one)" wrote:
Roy Mock wrote:
Jesus tells us not to judge others unless we are above reproof (Matt 7:1-5).
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge
others, you will be judged, and with the same measure you use, it will
be measured to you." (Matthew 7:1-2)
He says judge but be willing to be judged by the same criteria.
That is not what I discern.
<LOL>
"Even in laughter the heart may ache..." (Proverbs 14:13)
The psychopath is too self-centred to understand just how meaningless
the bible is to non-Christians. So he shows just how stupid he is by
quoting it.
Who gives a ***** what you "discern?"
"A fool shows his annoyance at once..." (Proverbs 12:16)
Who goves a ***** what the bible says?
I certainly don't. It's an amusing read and the contradictions are
really spectacular. But I operate from a vantage of 'know thy enemy'.
Because those who proclaim their faith loudest are the ones who have the
most to hide.
What you "discern" has
already been shown to be at odds with any reality. Your self-excusing
and self-congratulating interpretations are about as funny as anything
I've seen. More transparent than your lies.
"A mocker resents correction..." (Proverbs 15:12)
Nobody is mocking anything, liar. Nor have you corrected anything. Why
do you continue to bear false witness, sanctimonious hypocrite?
That is, don't be a hypocrite.
In truth, hypocrites can't help themselves. That would be like telling
a leopard to change its spots.
Hey, inconsistent moron, aren't you the one who says we all have free will?
Free will is not omnipotence.
You're the only one pretending it is, liar.
[rest of this necrophiliac sodomist's incredible stupidity snipped]
I'm consistently surprised by doctors who embrace fundamental
interpretations of religion. You'd think men and women whose training
has been mostly scientific would have a healthy does of skepticism but
alas some don't.
Same is true of pharmacists, etc. I'm becoming increasingly disturbed
about certain pharmacists refusing to dispense certain drugs because it
clashes with their beliefs. I'm sorry but their beliefs should be
checked at the door when they put that white jacket on.
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| User: "Pandora" |
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| Title: Re: On-line Chat with HeartDoc (12/08/05) |
01 Dec 2005 10:33:02 AM |
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WHY DON'T YOU GO TO SPEAK OF RELIGION IN ANOTHER NG?
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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:438EF707.5DFFF765@heartmdphd.com...
"Bob (this one)" wrote:
Roy Mock wrote:
Jesus tells us not to judge others unless we are above reproof (Matt
7:1-5).
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge
others, you will be judged, and with the same measure you use, it will
be measured to you." (Matthew 7:1-2)
He says judge but be willing to be judged by the same criteria.
That is not what I discern.
That is,
don't be a hypocrite.
In truth, hypocrites can't help themselves. That would be like telling
a leopard to change its spots.
It calls upon - echoes - his first order which is
about love.
Actually, the LORD's first commandment is about love **and** loyalty to
GOD.
To judge lovingly is to hope for the same in return.
"Just as the heart does not command the head, those who choose to judge
do so without love."
To
judge forgivingly is to invite the same treatment.
"Without love there can be no forgiveness."
That's what the beam and mote are about. Judging with clear eyes and not
offering judgements that condemn behavior in others when that is the
same as what we are doing. It's about honest judgement. For others and
self. It calls for loving neighbors as oneself. And unmistakably loving
oneself.
"The mocker seeks wisdom and finds none, but knowledge comes easily to
the discerning." (Proverbs 14:6)
Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
this thread here during the next on-line chat (12/08/05):
http://tinyurl.com/cpayh
For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:
http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt
In Christ's love always,
Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/b6xwk
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