"brian a m stuckless" <bastuck@nf.sympatico.ca> wrote in
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carlip-nospam@physics.ucdavis.edu wrote: >
In sci.physics Rich Grise, Plainclothes Hippie
<fff@example.com> wrote:
Hi. :-) >
I'm about to embark on a websearch that could ultimately
tell me some
of the numbers about protons and black holes.
Everybody's heard of a proton, right?
And practically everybody (at least english-speaking
internet geeks)
has heard of a black hole, right?
I wonder if anybody's done comparative numbers on the
effective mass
vs. dimensions of the two. Like, are they conceptually
equivalent,
or could, maybe, protons (and their sisters, neutrons)
actually _BE_
teeny, tiny, infinitesimallyy smalll BLACK HOLES?????
The black hole is characterized by fragmnets of sub atomic
particles so small that the pack to achieve the density and
gravitational effects that have been derivied.
the proton is a discrete sub atomic particle not a smaller
fragment, its density is less than it takes to collapse its
host atom... there are no fragments of protons in its
vicinity... fragments only appear when those are collided.
Phil Scott
A charged black hole has a maximum charge-to-mass ratio,
and a spinning
black hole has a maximum angular momentum-to-mass ratio. --
$ "Micro" means "orders of magnitude smaller"-LiKE
..duh.
The MORE "orders of magnitude smaller" ..the MORE micro a
Black Hole.
[ A GR-WORLD-point CANNOT exhibit SiZE or SHAPE, on
GR-WORLD-lines. ]
[ There are NO Black Holes with mass in GR ..G_uv & T_uv
UNrelated. ]
[ THEREfore, any GR Black Hole was, AGAiN, simply a
GR-WORLD-point. ]
$ The non-GR Blackhole mass M1
[ A GR Schwartzchild "radius" 2*G*M1 / c^2 is NOT a GR
calculation. ]
[ Mathematically speaking there is NO constraint on non-GR
mass M1. ]
[ Mathematically speaking the 2*G*M1 / c^2 is 2*G*(ANY
mass) / c^2. ]
[ Mathematically speaking the 2*G*M1 / c^2 fits
2*G*(PROTON) / c^2. ]
YES, any PROTON is a TRUE micro-Blackhole, mathematically
speaking.!!
brian a m stuckless
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-- If these are
exceeded, you don't have an event horizon, but instead have
a "naked
singularity."
The charges and spins of all known elementary particles far
exceed this
maximum value.
So, no, the proton can't be a black hole.
Steve Carlip
Re: OT: Are protons really quantum black holes?
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