Religions > Atheism > Re: (OT) Why "The Passion of the Christ" Wasn't Nom'd for Best Pic
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"Citizen_Cain" |
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27 Jan 2005 02:24:39 PM |
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Re: (OT) Why "The Passion of the Christ" Wasn't Nom'd for Best Pic |
"curious" <nope@nope.com> wrote in message
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http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/26/oscar.passion/index.html
""Hollywood has spoken. 'Don't mess with us,' is what they're saying,"
said Jennifer Giroux of seethepassion.com. " 'Don't mess with us because
we will not consider your talent if you do anything that is Christian,'
is the message that's coming out.""
Yes, I am sure that's exactly the reason why. It's an anti-Christian
bias.
Her statement makes me wonder if she herself has a little bias towards
Hollywood.
-curious
"Those people" control it, you know... *rolls eyes*
Yea, never mind the fact that the film sucked balls and Mel Gibson is a
fruit loop.
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ? |
16 Feb 2005 11:37:26 AM |
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"Pastor Dave" <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
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For example, there
is no third temple mentioned anywhere in Scripture.
Except Jeremiah 33:18
Susan
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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16 Feb 2005 02:49:41 PM |
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:37:26 GMT, after pondering deep
thoughts, "Susan Cohen" <flavia13@verizon.net> spake
thusly:
"Pastor Dave" <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:8mv611p7vv2b1d1tsc0o0ll2o5f905fg3v@4ax.com...
For example, there
is no third temple mentioned anywhere in Scripture.
Except Jeremiah 33:18
When you are ready to discuss the issues without hate,
then let me know. Until then, I have nothing to say to
you regarding Scripture.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditations." - Psalm 119:99
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"And take the helmet of salvation and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/solution.html
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ? |
17 Feb 2005 05:50:38 AM |
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"Pastor Dave" <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:37:26 GMT, after pondering deep
thoughts, "Susan Cohen" <flavia13@verizon.net> spake
thusly:
"Pastor Dave" <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:8mv611p7vv2b1d1tsc0o0ll2o5f905fg3v@4ax.com...
For example, there
is no third temple mentioned anywhere in Scripture.
Except Jeremiah 33:18
When you are ready to discuss the issues without hate,
then let me know.
And once again, you prove that you are pretty much pathological.
All I did was mention the line of Torah that proves you wrong, & you start
this *insane* business about "hate".
Obviously, the only "hate" on display is yours.
Until then, I have nothing to say to
you regarding Scripture.
Your concession noted.
Now, please, get yourself to a doctor about this problem of yours.
Yes, I know you will only scream about "attack" & "insults", but I have no
other way of getting you the help you so obviously need.
Susan
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ? |
17 Feb 2005 08:43:16 AM |
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:50:38 GMT, after pondering deep
thoughts, "Susan Cohen" <flavia13@verizon.net> spake
thusly:
"Pastor Dave" <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:5ec711dq4k6um0n5cmglaqdeiqam9stpqm@4ax.com...
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:37:26 GMT, after pondering deep
thoughts, "Susan Cohen" <flavia13@verizon.net> spake
thusly:
"Pastor Dave" <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:8mv611p7vv2b1d1tsc0o0ll2o5f905fg3v@4ax.com...
For example, there
is no third temple mentioned anywhere in Scripture.
Except Jeremiah 33:18
When you are ready to discuss the issues without hate,
then let me know.
And once again, you prove that you are pretty much pathological.
All I did was mention the line of Torah that proves you wrong, & you start
this *insane* business about "hate".
Obviously, the only "hate" on display is yours.
Until then, I have nothing to say to
you regarding Scripture.
Your concession noted.
Now, please, get yourself to a doctor about this problem of yours.
Yes, I know you will only scream about "attack" & "insults", but I have no
other way of getting you the help you so obviously need.
Thank you for proving my point. You deny attacking me,
while attacking me. Goodbye.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditations." - Psalm 119:99
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"And take the helmet of salvation and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/solution.html
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ? |
17 Feb 2005 08:50:58 AM |
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"Pastor Dave" <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:50:38 GMT, after pondering deep
thoughts, "Susan Cohen" <flavia13@verizon.net> spake
thusly:
"Pastor Dave" <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:5ec711dq4k6um0n5cmglaqdeiqam9stpqm@4ax.com...
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:37:26 GMT, after pondering deep
thoughts, "Susan Cohen" <flavia13@verizon.net> spake
thusly:
"Pastor Dave" <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:8mv611p7vv2b1d1tsc0o0ll2o5f905fg3v@4ax.com...
For example, there
is no third temple mentioned anywhere in Scripture.
Except Jeremiah 33:18
When you are ready to discuss the issues without hate,
then let me know.
And once again, you prove that you are pretty much pathological.
All I did was mention the line of Torah that proves you wrong, & you start
this *insane* business about "hate".
Obviously, the only "hate" on display is yours.
Until then, I have nothing to say to
you regarding Scripture.
Your concession noted.
Now, please, get yourself to a doctor about this problem of yours.
Yes, I know you will only scream about "attack" & "insults", but I have no
other way of getting you the help you so obviously need.
Thank you for proving my point. You deny attacking me,
while attacking me.
And in saying this, he has only proved my point- as I pointed out that he
would.
Susan
Goodbye.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditations." - Psalm 119:99
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"And take the helmet of salvation and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/solution.html
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| User: "Virgil" |
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| Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ? |
17 Feb 2005 04:13:40 PM |
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In article <bbb911hf1s3elj3u9csmvc42ba73fhjnjr@4ax.com>,
Pastor Dave <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
Your concession noted.
Now, please, get yourself to a doctor about this problem of yours.
Yes, I know you will only scream about "attack" & "insults", but I have no
other way of getting you the help you so obviously need.
Thank you for proving my point. You deny attacking me,
while attacking me. Goodbye.
Pastor Dave seems to be having some trouble with reality.
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ? |
17 Feb 2005 04:52:34 PM |
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"Virgil" <ITSnetNOTcom#virgil@COMCAST.com> wrote in message
news:ITSnetNOTcom%23virgil-84F174.15134017022005@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
In article <bbb911hf1s3elj3u9csmvc42ba73fhjnjr@4ax.com>,
Pastor Dave <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
Your concession noted.
Now, please, get yourself to a doctor about this problem of yours.
Yes, I know you will only scream about "attack" & "insults", but I have
no
other way of getting you the help you so obviously need.
Thank you for proving my point. You deny attacking me,
while attacking me. Goodbye.
Pastor Dave seems to be having some trouble with reality.
It would be sad if it weren't turned outward.
Or, rather, solely sad & pitiable.
Unfortunately, he makes himself too annoying for just that.
Susan
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| User: "Mary Hogan" |
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17 Feb 2005 04:53:35 PM |
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That's why he doesnt' make it to my server....I filter fools.
"Susan Cohen" <flavia13@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Virgil" <ITSnetNOTcom#virgil@COMCAST.com> wrote in message
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In article <bbb911hf1s3elj3u9csmvc42ba73fhjnjr@4ax.com>,
Pastor Dave <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
Your concession noted.
Now, please, get yourself to a doctor about this problem of yours.
Yes, I know you will only scream about "attack" & "insults", but I have
no
other way of getting you the help you so obviously need.
Thank you for proving my point. You deny attacking me,
while attacking me. Goodbye.
Pastor Dave seems to be having some trouble with reality.
It would be sad if it weren't turned outward.
Or, rather, solely sad & pitiable.
Unfortunately, he makes himself too annoying for just that.
Susan
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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17 Feb 2005 05:02:58 PM |
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"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
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That's why he doesnt' make it to my server....I filter fools.
I usually do so myself, sooner or later.
Some I like to quash first, if they absolutely insist on it.
Susan
"Susan Cohen" <flavia13@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Virgil" <ITSnetNOTcom#virgil@COMCAST.com> wrote in message
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In article <bbb911hf1s3elj3u9csmvc42ba73fhjnjr@4ax.com>,
Pastor Dave <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
Your concession noted.
Now, please, get yourself to a doctor about this problem of yours.
Yes, I know you will only scream about "attack" & "insults", but I
have no
other way of getting you the help you so obviously need.
Thank you for proving my point. You deny attacking me,
while attacking me. Goodbye.
Pastor Dave seems to be having some trouble with reality.
It would be sad if it weren't turned outward.
Or, rather, solely sad & pitiable.
Unfortunately, he makes himself too annoying for just that.
Susan
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| User: "Jan Pompe" |
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17 Feb 2005 09:51:39 AM |
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Proving Susan right Pastor Dave wrote:
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:50:38 GMT, after pondering deep
thoughts, "Susan Cohen" <flavia13@verizon.net> spake
thusly:
Now, please, get yourself to a doctor about this problem of yours.
Yes, I know you will only scream about "attack" & "insults", but I have no
other way of getting you the help you so obviously need.
Thank you for proving my point. You deny attacking me,
while attacking me. Goodbye.
and again he runs away
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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17 Feb 2005 09:07:24 AM |
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"Jan Pompe" <janp@!!dx.com.au> wrote in message
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Proving Susan right Pastor Dave wrote:
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:50:38 GMT, after pondering deep
thoughts, "Susan Cohen" <flavia13@verizon.net> spake
thusly:
Now, please, get yourself to a doctor about this problem of yours.
Yes, I know you will only scream about "attack" & "insults", but I have
no other way of getting you the help you so obviously need.
Thank you for proving my point. You deny attacking me,
while attacking me. Goodbye.
and again he runs away
While attacking me & denying that he was.
I'm sure it's a reaction to his more cherished beliefs being so soundly
challenged, and I could pity him for being so upset, except that he is
turning his anxiety outward, & quite blindly.
Susan
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| User: "Ash" |
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16 Feb 2005 12:50:35 PM |
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Susan Cohen wrote:
"Pastor Dave" <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:8mv611p7vv2b1d1tsc0o0ll2o5f905fg3v@4ax.com...
For example, there
is no third temple mentioned anywhere in Scripture.
Except Jeremiah 33:18
amd Ezekiel 37:26 - 27
Though of course, you will probably have some way of saying they didn't
really mean what they saif
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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16 Feb 2005 01:43:09 PM |
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"Ash" <ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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Susan Cohen wrote:
"Pastor Dave" <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:8mv611p7vv2b1d1tsc0o0ll2o5f905fg3v@4ax.com...
For example, there
is no third temple mentioned anywhere in Scripture.
Except Jeremiah 33:18
amd Ezekiel 37:26 - 27
Though of course, you will probably have some way of saying they didn't
really mean what they saif
I will?
Susan
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| User: "Ash" |
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16 Feb 2005 06:02:16 PM |
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Susan Cohen wrote:
"Ash" <ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:cv04lg$fgt$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
Susan Cohen wrote:
"Pastor Dave" <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:8mv611p7vv2b1d1tsc0o0ll2o5f905fg3v@4ax.com...
For example, there
is no third temple mentioned anywhere in Scripture.
Except Jeremiah 33:18
amd Ezekiel 37:26 - 27
Though of course, you will probably have some way of saying they didn't
really mean what they saif
I will?
That was meant for Pastor Dave. I thought that obvious enough not to specify
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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17 Feb 2005 06:11:07 AM |
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"Ash" <ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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Susan Cohen wrote:
"Ash" <ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:cv04lg$fgt$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
Susan Cohen wrote:
"Pastor Dave" <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:8mv611p7vv2b1d1tsc0o0ll2o5f905fg3v@4ax.com...
For example, there
is no third temple mentioned anywhere in Scripture.
Except Jeremiah 33:18
amd Ezekiel 37:26 - 27
Though of course, you will probably have some way of saying they didn't
really mean what they saif
I will?
That was meant for Pastor Dave. I thought that obvious enough not to
specify
I *thought* so, but hate to ASSUME :-)
Susan
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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16 Feb 2005 02:52:10 PM |
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 18:50:35 +0000, after pondering
deep thoughts, Ash <ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk>
spake thusly:
Susan Cohen wrote:
"Pastor Dave" <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:8mv611p7vv2b1d1tsc0o0ll2o5f905fg3v@4ax.com...
For example, there
is no third temple mentioned anywhere in Scripture.
Except Jeremiah 33:18
amd Ezekiel 37:26 - 27
Though of course, you will probably have some way of saying they didn't
really mean what they saif
I'll take your avoidance of my post, as you declining
to speak about this rationally and politely.
Those passages say nothing of a third temple and while
you claim I would be "saying that they didn't really
mean what they say", in order for your claim to be
justified, you would have to provide the words that
say, "third temple".
Now I ask you one last time. Do you wish to discuss
this rationally and politely?
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditations." - Psalm 119:99
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"And take the helmet of salvation and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/solution.html
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ? |
17 Feb 2005 05:51:48 AM |
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"Pastor Dave" <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 18:50:35 +0000, after pondering
deep thoughts, Ash <ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk>
spake thusly:
Susan Cohen wrote:
"Pastor Dave" <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:8mv611p7vv2b1d1tsc0o0ll2o5f905fg3v@4ax.com...
For example, there
is no third temple mentioned anywhere in Scripture.
Except Jeremiah 33:18
amd Ezekiel 37:26 - 27
Though of course, you will probably have some way of saying they didn't
really mean what they saif
I'll take your avoidance of my post, as you declining
to speak about this rationally and politely.
You mean like your avoidance of my cite of Scripture that proved you wrong,
& your incredibly unhealthy labelling it as "hate"?
Those passages say nothing of a third temple and while
you claim I would be "saying that they didn't really
mean what they say", in order for your claim to be
justified, you would have to provide the words that
say, "third temple".
So Ash was right.
Not that we didn't know this already.
Susan
Now I ask you one last time. Do you wish to discuss
this rationally and politely?
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditations." - Psalm 119:99
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"And take the helmet of salvation and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/solution.html
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| User: "Ash" |
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| Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ? |
16 Feb 2005 06:03:05 PM |
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Pastor Dave wrote:
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 18:50:35 +0000, after pondering
deep thoughts, Ash <ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk>
spake thusly:
Susan Cohen wrote:
"Pastor Dave" <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:8mv611p7vv2b1d1tsc0o0ll2o5f905fg3v@4ax.com...
For example, there
is no third temple mentioned anywhere in Scripture.
Except Jeremiah 33:18
amd Ezekiel 37:26 - 27
Though of course, you will probably have some way of saying they didn't
really mean what they saif
I'll take your avoidance of my post, as you declining
to speak about this rationally and politely.
Those passages say nothing of a third temple and while
you claim I would be "saying that they didn't really
mean what they say", in order for your claim to be
justified, you would have to provide the words that
say, "third temple".
Now I ask you one last time. Do you wish to discuss
this rationally and politely?
I wouldn't even bother to try and discuss something politely and
rationally with you as I do not believe you capable of either
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ? |
17 Feb 2005 08:42:23 AM |
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 00:03:05 +0000, after pondering
deep thoughts, Ash <ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk>
spake thusly:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 18:50:35 +0000, after pondering
deep thoughts, Ash <ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk>
spake thusly:
Susan Cohen wrote:
"Pastor Dave" <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:8mv611p7vv2b1d1tsc0o0ll2o5f905fg3v@4ax.com...
For example, there
is no third temple mentioned anywhere in Scripture.
Except Jeremiah 33:18
amd Ezekiel 37:26 - 27
Though of course, you will probably have some way of saying they didn't
really mean what they saif
I'll take your avoidance of my post, as you declining
to speak about this rationally and politely.
Those passages say nothing of a third temple and while
you claim I would be "saying that they didn't really
mean what they say", in order for your claim to be
justified, you would have to provide the words that
say, "third temple".
Now I ask you one last time. Do you wish to discuss
this rationally and politely?
I wouldn't even bother to try and discuss something politely and
rationally with you as I do not believe you capable of either
And I assume that conclusion would be based on my
repeated requests to discuss it rationally and
politely, amidst the attacks by you and Susan and Jan.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditations." - Psalm 119:99
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"And take the helmet of salvation and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/solution.html
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ? |
17 Feb 2005 09:08:46 AM |
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"Pastor Dave" <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 00:03:05 +0000, after pondering
deep thoughts, Ash <ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk>
spake thusly:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 18:50:35 +0000, after pondering
deep thoughts, Ash <ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk>
spake thusly:
Susan Cohen wrote:
"Pastor Dave" <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:8mv611p7vv2b1d1tsc0o0ll2o5f905fg3v@4ax.com...
For example, there
is no third temple mentioned anywhere in Scripture.
Except Jeremiah 33:18
amd Ezekiel 37:26 - 27
Though of course, you will probably have some way of saying they didn't
really mean what they saif
I'll take your avoidance of my post, as you declining
to speak about this rationally and politely.
Those passages say nothing of a third temple and while
you claim I would be "saying that they didn't really
mean what they say", in order for your claim to be
justified, you would have to provide the words that
say, "third temple".
Now I ask you one last time. Do you wish to discuss
this rationally and politely?
I wouldn't even bother to try and discuss something politely and
rationally with you as I do not believe you capable of either
And I assume
incorrectly as always
that conclusion would be based on my
repeated requests to discuss it rationally and
politely,
while being incapable of doing so ---
amidst the attacks by you and Susan and Jan.
--- as proven by this *at best* hypocrisy.
Susan
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17 Feb 2005 04:17:08 PM |
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In article <r8b911t6aj34na18sce0n4rcord9kue9a6@4ax.com>,
Pastor Dave <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
I wouldn't even bother to try and discuss something politely and
rationally with you as I do not believe you capable of either
And I assume that conclusion would be based on my
repeated requests to discuss it rationally and
politely, amidst the attacks by you and Susan and Jan.
Pastor Dave requested the same of me, but when I complied, attacked me
viciously.
Pastor Dave's idea of rational and polite is complete acquiescence to
all his demands, and he reacts negatively to anything else.
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17 Feb 2005 04:53:03 PM |
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"Virgil" <ITSnetNOTcom#virgil@COMCAST.com> wrote in message
news:ITSnetNOTcom%23virgil-E716A1.15170817022005@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
In article <r8b911t6aj34na18sce0n4rcord9kue9a6@4ax.com>,
Pastor Dave <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
I wouldn't even bother to try and discuss something politely and
rationally with you as I do not believe you capable of either
And I assume that conclusion would be based on my
repeated requests to discuss it rationally and
politely, amidst the attacks by you and Susan and Jan.
Pastor Dave requested the same of me, but when I complied, attacked me
viciously.
Pastor Dave's idea of rational and polite is complete acquiescence to
all his demands, and he reacts negatively to anything else.
And it's interesting how absolutely everyone says this *but* him....
Susan
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| User: "Jan Pompe" |
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17 Feb 2005 10:01:23 AM |
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Pastor Dave wrote:
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 00:03:05 +0000, after pondering
deep thoughts, Ash <ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk>
spake thusly:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 18:50:35 +0000, after pondering
deep thoughts, Ash <ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk>
spake thusly:
Susan Cohen wrote:
"Pastor Dave" <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:8mv611p7vv2b1d1tsc0o0ll2o5f905fg3v@4ax.com...
For example, there
is no third temple mentioned anywhere in Scripture.
Except Jeremiah 33:18
amd Ezekiel 37:26 - 27
Though of course, you will probably have some way of saying they didn't
really mean what they saif
I'll take your avoidance of my post, as you declining
to speak about this rationally and politely.
Those passages say nothing of a third temple and while
you claim I would be "saying that they didn't really
mean what they say", in order for your claim to be
justified, you would have to provide the words that
say, "third temple".
Now I ask you one last time. Do you wish to discuss
this rationally and politely?
I wouldn't even bother to try and discuss something politely and
rationally with you as I do not believe you capable of either
And I assume that conclusion would be based on my
repeated requests to discuss it rationally and
politely, amidst the attacks by you and Susan and Jan.
I'm sure you assume incorrectly.
Your activitites are vivble for all to see as you posted earlier and in
amongst all that you've posted there is very little evidence that you
are capable of a rational and polite discussion.
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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16 Feb 2005 11:35:14 AM |
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"Pastor Dave" <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:8mv611p7vv2b1d1tsc0o0ll2o5f905fg3v@4ax.com...
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:15:50 +0000, after pondering
deep thoughts, Ash <ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk>
spake thusly:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 07:44:17 +1100, after pondering
deep thoughts, Jan Pompe <janp@!!dx.com.au> spake
thusly:
Pastor Dave wrote:
2) We are under the New Covenant, because the Old has
been removed. The prophecies did come to pass.
Which ones? then we can look at the ones you hve left out.
They all came to pass. I didn't plan on leaving any
out.
Except for being descended from David and solomon through the male line,
gathering all the Jews into one place, rebuilding a temple, living
during world peace etc
No offense, but you have made statements that assume
that your view is the correct one.
Youmean the ay you do all the time?
Exacept that his statements are based on the actual requirements.
For example, there
is no third temple mentioned anywhere in Scripture.
Not in yours, I'm sure.
Now if you wish to discuss these issues that you
mentioned rationally and politely (I'm not saying
you've been rude),
But you're certainly hinting at it.
Susan
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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16 Feb 2005 02:49:05 PM |
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:35:14 GMT, after pondering deep
thoughts, "Susan Cohen" <flavia13@verizon.net> spake
thusly:
"Pastor Dave" <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:8mv611p7vv2b1d1tsc0o0ll2o5f905fg3v@4ax.com...
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:15:50 +0000, after pondering
deep thoughts, Ash <ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk>
spake thusly:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 07:44:17 +1100, after pondering
deep thoughts, Jan Pompe <janp@!!dx.com.au> spake
thusly:
Pastor Dave wrote:
2) We are under the New Covenant, because the Old has
been removed. The prophecies did come to pass.
Which ones? then we can look at the ones you hve left out.
They all came to pass. I didn't plan on leaving any
out.
Except for being descended from David and solomon through the male line,
gathering all the Jews into one place, rebuilding a temple, living
during world peace etc
No offense, but you have made statements that assume
that your view is the correct one.
Youmean the ay you do all the time?
Exacept that his statements are based on the actual requirements.
Again you attack.
For example, there
is no third temple mentioned anywhere in Scripture.
Not in yours, I'm sure.
Again you attack.
Now if you wish to discuss these issues that you
mentioned rationally and politely (I'm not saying
you've been rude),
But you're certainly hinting at it.
Again you attack.
You are a well of hate.
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditations." - Psalm 119:99
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http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/solution.html
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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17 Feb 2005 05:44:11 AM |
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"Pastor Dave" <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:qcc711pl1d4pf16plf9utp91rmhbduog86@4ax.com...
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:35:14 GMT, after pondering deep
thoughts, "Susan Cohen" <flavia13@verizon.net> spake
thusly:
"Pastor Dave" <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:8mv611p7vv2b1d1tsc0o0ll2o5f905fg3v@4ax.com...
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:15:50 +0000, after pondering
deep thoughts, Ash <ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk>
spake thusly:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 07:44:17 +1100, after pondering
deep thoughts, Jan Pompe <janp@!!dx.com.au> spake
thusly:
Pastor Dave wrote:
2) We are under the New Covenant, because the Old has
been removed. The prophecies did come to pass.
Which ones? then we can look at the ones you hve left out.
They all came to pass. I didn't plan on leaving any
out.
Except for being descended from David and solomon through the male line,
gathering all the Jews into one place, rebuilding a temple, living
during world peace etc
No offense, but you have made statements that assume
that your view is the correct one.
Youmean the ay you do all the time?
Except that his statements are based on the actual requirements.
Again you attack.
You mean, again, I discuss it rationally & only say to you what you say to
others.
Or, to put it another way: I show you your own hypocrisy but that's not
allowable in your little world.
OR - & perhaps the best way of putting it: Again you pretend you are being
attacked so you can avoid answering a point you do not like.
For example, there
is no third temple mentioned anywhere in Scripture.
Not in yours, I'm sure.
Again you attack.
Again, you pretend this is so.
The fact is that it IS mentioned in Scripture - I point it out elsewhwre.
If anything, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt that it wasn;t in
*yours*.
But since it is something you don;t wnat to hear, you
Now if you wish to discuss these issues that you
mentioned rationally and politely (I'm not saying
you've been rude),
But you're certainly hinting at it.
Again you attack.
Again, you take a simple observation as an attack.
You have a severe problem in this regard.
& you've confirmed it by exposing it in many posts.
You are a well of hate.
But you never attack anyone or make up lies like this to soothe yourself
over badly losing an argument - right?
Susan
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| User: "Ash" |
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16 Feb 2005 12:47:06 PM |
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Pastor Dave wrote:
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:15:50 +0000, after pondering
deep thoughts, Ash <ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk>
spake thusly:
Except for being descended from David and solomon through the male line,
gathering all the Jews into one place, rebuilding a temple, living
during world peace etc
No offense, but you have made statements that assume
that your view is the correct one. For example, there
is no third temple mentioned anywhere in Scripture.
Now if you wish to discuss these issues that you
mentioned rationally and politely (I'm not saying
you've been rude), I would be happy to do so with you.
and what about being descended from David and solomon?
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15 Feb 2005 07:27:02 PM |
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There is no SET Usenet Etiquette!
Just like the word colour, can be spelled c-o-l-o-u-r or c-o-l-o-r
depending on your own dialect of English!
"Pastor Dave" <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:cbm411113c3cdkam0tr5q6u3h1jsj1abj0@4ax.com...
: On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 07:44:17 +1100, after pondering
: deep thoughts, Jan Pompe <janp@!!dx.com.au> spake
: thusly:
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: >Pastor Dave wrote:
: >> On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 09:19:15 -0500, after pondering
: >> deep thoughts, "Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net>
: >> spake thusly:
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: >>>There is not one jot, nor tittle obsolete in the Torah.....
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: >>>To call it "Old" is silly...and dangerous
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: >> 1) Top posting is rude.
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: >sez hoo?
:
: usenet etiquette. Would you like some links to
: information regarding this? I would be happy to
: provide some.
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: >> 2) We are under the New Covenant, because the Old has
: >> been removed. The prophecies did come to pass.
: >>
: >
: >Which ones? then we can look at the ones you hve left out.
:
: They all came to pass. I didn't plan on leaving any
: out.
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: Pastor Dave Raymond
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: "I have more understanding than all my teachers:
: for thy testimonies are my meditations." - Psalm 119:99
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: the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
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: http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/solution.html
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16 Feb 2005 11:34:04 AM |
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On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 20:27:02 -0500, after pondering
deep thoughts, "The Real Riain" <riain@riain.com> spake
thusly:
There is no SET Usenet Etiquette!
Yes, there is.
The fact is, that you cause MORE scrolling with top
posting, especially since the standard is to bottom
post. Not all of your words at the bottom, but each
response you have to individual points within the
message, below those individual points.
However, if you do not do this and just post it all at
the top, when someone else bottom posts and you again
top post and someone else bottom posts and then another
bottom posts and then you top post, you now have people
scrolling up and down many times, trying to figure out
who said what when and to what text in the message.
That is obviously not a good thing. :)
So please, don't be lazy in your posting. Maybe I'm a
dinosaur, because I come from a time before the
Internet and was involved in FidoNet (a world wide
network, carried by dial up around the world) and
moderated and owned four echos (that's what they were
called, instead of groups) and was a Hub for the Tampa
Bay area (a central point for distribution within a
given area) and there were rules. Then the Internet
came along and email and people are lazy by nature and
so, just didn't care how they wrote. Usenet users, on
the other hand, who have been at it a while, either
came from FidoNet (or a similar network, but Fido was
the largest), or usenet as it was set up in colleges,
etc. and as I said, there were rules of courtesy in
posting. So yea, I may be a dinosaur to you, but the
fact is that there are rules of Netiquette in usenet
and I have posted some info and some links, for your
edification.
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"DO NOT TOP-POST and DO trim your replies!!!
Top-posting is the annoying practice of replying to a
message by typing your response above that to which you
are responding. This is a Bad Thing because your
readers will have to scroll down and extract the
essential of the existing thread in order to grasp the
context of your reply, and then scroll back up again to
read your reply.
Posting a "me too" comment at the bottom of a 100+ line
message is no better because people have to scroll all
the way down through 100+ lines they've already read in
order to see your one-liner. One word comes to mind
for that: frustrating.
The generally accepted "right way" of doing things is
called "inline posting", whereby you insert your
comments straight after that on which you are
commenting, having stripped unnecessary text from the
original quoted text. The end result is something
which makes much more sense because it reads like a
conversation."
http://linux.sgms-centre.com/misc/netiquette.php
Also see...
"I don't believe bottom posting really requires more
scrolling than top posting. With top posting, you'll
still need to scroll down to read the quoted original
message. With bottom posting, you'll need to scroll
down to read the reply. Unless of course the entire
message is short enough to fit on-screen in its
entirety, in which case neither applies.
Bottom posting has the benefit that you can read quoted
messages and the response in the order in which they
were written. This is especially practical when the
quoting goes several levels deep (messages that quote
something that already contains quotes itself).
Further, it becomes a real mess when you go several
levels deep and some people use top posting while
others use bottom posting. You'll end up with
something like this:
<Fourth message, quoting third message>
<Second message, quoting first message>
<First message>
<Third message, quoting second message>
And that's just when people quote only the parts they
reply to and snip the rest. When quoting entire
messages, combined with the mixed top/bottom posting,
it becomes a real pain to read messages and figure out
who wrote what.
I'll leave it as an exercise to the reader to figure
out what message #10 in a thread could look like when
you have full-quoting plus mixed top/bottom posting.
<SHUDDER>"
http://www.mail-archive.com/brin-l@coollist.com/msg00178.html
Also see...
"What should I do when replying to an earlier article?
For example, should I "top post" or "bottom post"?
First and foremost, make sure to retain the attribution
of any quoted text, so others know who said the things
you are replying to. Almost equally important, make
sure that you trim the previous post as much as
possible:
* If you are replying to one specific comment in the
previous article, delete all of the previous text
except that comment. If the comment is at all long,
try to trim it down to its essence. Type your reply
directly beneath the quoted comment.
* If you are replying to several distinct points
individually, quote each one as above and type your
reply immediately below it (and above the next point).
* If you are replying to a long section that cannot be
easily trimmed down (for example, an original poem or
story), quote only its first and last lines (and
perhaps put "[snip]" or "..." on a line in between the
two). If there are particular pieces that you want to
respond to individually, do so as described above.
There are two general rules of thumb to follow in
connection with the above guidelines:
* Any article you post should have more lines of new
text than lines of quoted text. It is generally
acceptable to ignore this rule if the entire post
(including basic headers and any signature) is short
enough to fit on a single 24 line screen.
* Any comments specifically replying to the previous
article should come below the relevant part of the
previous article. This makes reading the article more
like reading a conversation, and therefore much easier
to follow.
This obviously means that "top posting" is strongly
discouraged: it forces readers to scroll up and down
between the new and old material, and it usually
involves quoting the entire previous post(s)
untrimmed.. Whether you call our practice "bottom
posting", "middle posting", or "standard netiquette" is
up to you.
http://tolkien.slimy.com/faq/Netiquette.html
Also see...
http://www.ezine.com/Netiquette/netiquette.shtml
http://www.ds.net/neteq.html
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditations." - Psalm 119:99
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the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/solution.html
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16 Feb 2005 03:29:24 PM |
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Pastor Dave wrote:
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 20:27:02 -0500, after pondering
deep thoughts, "The Real Riain" <riain@riain.com> spake
thusly:
There is no SET Usenet Etiquette!
Yes, there is.
The fact is, that you cause MORE scrolling with top
posting, especially since the standard is to bottom
post.
Since when?
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