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Topic:	Religions > Atheism
User:	"Citizen_Cain"
Date:	27 Jan 2005 02:24:39 PM
Object:	Re: (OT) Why "The Passion of the Christ" Wasn't Nom'd for Best Pic

"curious" <nope@nope.com> wrote in message
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http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/26/oscar.passion/index.html

""Hollywood has spoken. 'Don't mess with us,' is what they're saying,"
said Jennifer Giroux of seethepassion.com. " 'Don't mess with us because
we will not consider your talent if you do anything that is Christian,'
is the message that's coming out.""

Yes, I am sure that's exactly the reason why. It's an anti-Christian
bias.

Her statement makes me wonder if she herself has a little bias towards
Hollywood.

-curious
"Those people" control it, you know... *rolls eyes*

Yea, never mind the fact that the film sucked balls and Mel Gibson is a
fruit loop.
.

User: "R?ain - ��"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	01 Mar 2005 11:08:51 PM

***** off, idiot
"Ray" <raymokeeffe@888hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:d03hae$hcn$1@news-02.connect.com.au...
:
: "R?ain - ��" <riain@riain.com> wrote in message
: news:Naydnaid4_PEpbjfRVn-vA@comcast.com...
: > God did not have sexual relations with any woman!!!
: >
: > It is a complete fallacy and a well-known PAGAN religious concept!
: >
: > Jesus more than likely was a complete myth, if not, he was not a
rabbi,
: > and he was most certainly not the messiah, nor divine.
:
: SIGNS and WONDERS
:
: Hi
:
: I have found many signs showing that Jesus is more than real, and is
the
: most significant man to ever be born.
:
: This is revealed in patterns found in the English language.
: Consider that the English alphabet is common to most of the European
: languages, especially in the west.
:
: Now where we get some interesting miraculous values is with numbering
the
: alphabet from A to Z as 1 to 26.
:
: This gives us the ability to tally words letters and get a value.
:
: A study of words which have the same numerical value as other words is
: called Gematria. It is done mainly with languages which already have
: numerical values built into them. To do it with English is unauthodox,
but
: the results show miracles!
:
: There also is the multiplication factor, where each letters value is
: multiplied by 6, but regardless of if left alone or multiplied the
ratios
: will remain the same, and the same valued words consistent.
:
: Jesus = 74, times 6 it is 444
: Messiah = 74, times 6 is 444
:
: See the consitency is the same
:
: NOW here is a miracle evidence showing JESUS is more than a myth.
:
: These Keywords all have the same value...
: Jesus, Messiah, Cross, Gospel, Heavens, Clouds, Ruler, Jewish,
English,
: Gematria, God Son,
:
: These are keywords for the thorough perspective of telling the Gospel
: Jesus the Jewish Messiah, the Gospel as told in English.
: The God Son, died on the Cross of all mankind.
: He rose from the dead and into the heavens and will come again on the
clouds
: of heaven
: when he comes to be the Ruler and for judgement.
:
: Now this shows the alphabet had these in it even before English came
into
: being.
:
: AND then to have the keyword of this type of thing Gematria come to
the same
: value shows a designer giving clues.
:
: For the calculatoin of the number of the beast, this code does that
and
: shows the world leader with many signs to the author/programmer and
the
: formula also in the number of days between them.
:
: So Jesus is Real, the mark of the beast is real, as is the beast and
bible
: prophecies.
:
: Has God been misrepresented? YES.
:
: It's between you and God, love one another, and be accountable for you
: deeds.
:
: www.id-chip.4t.com
:
: PEace
:
: >
: > Humans are not enslaved in sin, that would go against what God is
and
: > what God is about, therefore we do not need to be freed from it.
: >
: > You do not need to believe that any human is divine in order to be
: > reincarnated or resurrected by God. God does not need to rely on any
: > human to fulfil Universal Divine Will.
: >
: > All humans are the "children" of God as we all have God give souls.
: >
: > We are equal and are not born with original sin or any other kind of
: > sin. Children cannot be held responsible for anything that they
cannot
: > reason to be wrong. The same goes for any human that is mentally or
: > emotionally or physically impaired. Do you think God punished
innocent
: > people?
: >
: > Jesus did not speak a single word that was written in "red".
: >
: > I suggest you get an education in New Testament Studies, Biblical
Text
: > Studies, Biblical Archaeology, Philosophy, Physics, and LOGIC!
: >
: >
: >
: >
: > "RAYPHOS" <RAYPHOS@BigFoot.com> wrote in message
: > news:482dnUrkc7ZtsrjfRVn-qw@look.ca...
: > : "Susan Cohen"
: > :
: > : I would recommend that you be very very careful with what
: > : you say!
: > :
: > : Your statements concerning Jesus's death could come close
: > : to the unpardonable sin. Especially, if you believed that
: > : Jesus is the Son
: > : of God who suffered to free us from the slavery of sin and
: > : the
: > : penalty of permanent death. And you still malign despite
: > : the
: > : fact the "red" words of Jesus spoke, you are already lost!
: > : --
: > : Best regards
: > : RAYPHOS
: > : Fax (01) 514-3724199
: > :

: > : =========================
: > :
: > :
: >
: >
:
:
.

User: "Ray"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	01 Mar 2005 11:54:31 PM

"R?ain - ��" <riain@riain.com> wrote in message
news:uqGdnaSi4JKg17jfRVn-jw@comcast.com...

***** off, idiot

Seriously, your attack on me (calling me an idiot) made me react with much
laughter...
However, the signs are there.
I am not a bible basher
I seek the truth and do not adhere to any sect or belief system
IN my search I found that English things I mentioned...
for you to call me an idiot shows me that you have experienced many bible
based idiots... but do not assume me to one of them, I have met many of them
too.
Gods will... all will be at peace with Him.
PEace

"Ray" <raymokeeffe@888hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:d03hae$hcn$1@news-02.connect.com.au...
:
: "R?ain - ��" <riain@riain.com> wrote in message
: news:Naydnaid4_PEpbjfRVn-vA@comcast.com...
: > God did not have sexual relations with any woman!!!
: >
: > It is a complete fallacy and a well-known PAGAN religious concept!
: >
: > Jesus more than likely was a complete myth, if not, he was not a
rabbi,
: > and he was most certainly not the messiah, nor divine.
:
: SIGNS and WONDERS
:
: Hi
:
: I have found many signs showing that Jesus is more than real, and is
the
: most significant man to ever be born.
:
: This is revealed in patterns found in the English language.
: Consider that the English alphabet is common to most of the European
: languages, especially in the west.
:
: Now where we get some interesting miraculous values is with numbering
the
: alphabet from A to Z as 1 to 26.
:
: This gives us the ability to tally words letters and get a value.
:
: A study of words which have the same numerical value as other words is
: called Gematria. It is done mainly with languages which already have
: numerical values built into them. To do it with English is unauthodox,
but
: the results show miracles!
:
: There also is the multiplication factor, where each letters value is
: multiplied by 6, but regardless of if left alone or multiplied the
ratios
: will remain the same, and the same valued words consistent.
:
: Jesus = 74, times 6 it is 444
: Messiah = 74, times 6 is 444
:
: See the consitency is the same
:
: NOW here is a miracle evidence showing JESUS is more than a myth.
:
: These Keywords all have the same value...
: Jesus, Messiah, Cross, Gospel, Heavens, Clouds, Ruler, Jewish,
English,
: Gematria, God Son,
:
: These are keywords for the thorough perspective of telling the Gospel
: Jesus the Jewish Messiah, the Gospel as told in English.
: The God Son, died on the Cross of all mankind.
: He rose from the dead and into the heavens and will come again on the
clouds
: of heaven
: when he comes to be the Ruler and for judgement.
:
: Now this shows the alphabet had these in it even before English came
into
: being.
:
: AND then to have the keyword of this type of thing Gematria come to
the same
: value shows a designer giving clues.
:
: For the calculatoin of the number of the beast, this code does that
and
: shows the world leader with many signs to the author/programmer and
the
: formula also in the number of days between them.
:
: So Jesus is Real, the mark of the beast is real, as is the beast and
bible
: prophecies.
:
: Has God been misrepresented? YES.
:
: It's between you and God, love one another, and be accountable for you
: deeds.
:
: www.id-chip.4t.com
:
: PEace
:
: >
: > Humans are not enslaved in sin, that would go against what God is
and
: > what God is about, therefore we do not need to be freed from it.
: >
: > You do not need to believe that any human is divine in order to be
: > reincarnated or resurrected by God. God does not need to rely on any
: > human to fulfil Universal Divine Will.
: >
: > All humans are the "children" of God as we all have God give souls.
: >
: > We are equal and are not born with original sin or any other kind of
: > sin. Children cannot be held responsible for anything that they
cannot
: > reason to be wrong. The same goes for any human that is mentally or
: > emotionally or physically impaired. Do you think God punished
innocent
: > people?
: >
: > Jesus did not speak a single word that was written in "red".
: >
: > I suggest you get an education in New Testament Studies, Biblical
Text
: > Studies, Biblical Archaeology, Philosophy, Physics, and LOGIC!
: >
: >
: >
: >
: > "RAYPHOS" <RAYPHOS@BigFoot.com> wrote in message
: > news:482dnUrkc7ZtsrjfRVn-qw@look.ca...
: > : "Susan Cohen"
: > :
: > : I would recommend that you be very very careful with what
: > : you say!
: > :
: > : Your statements concerning Jesus's death could come close
: > : to the unpardonable sin. Especially, if you believed that
: > : Jesus is the Son
: > : of God who suffered to free us from the slavery of sin and
: > : the
: > : penalty of permanent death. And you still malign despite
: > : the
: > : fact the "red" words of Jesus spoke, you are already lost!
: > : --
: > : Best regards
: > : RAYPHOS
: > : Fax (01) 514-3724199
: > :

: > : =========================
: > :
: > :
: >
: >
:
:

User: "Scott"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	02 Mar 2005 04:00:43 AM

Here we go again!!! oh man heh
of course that person poisted things completly in opposite of The Tenak. I
guess when Isaiah says "all our rightousness is like a filthy rag (prob
meant menstral)
whats the point to correct? "rebuke a fool and he wil hate you, rebuke a
wise man and he will love you"
I have met Jews so secure in their Judaism,( not in pride but in faith in
YHVH) they are at total peace dicussing this issue, and those say " well we
cant beleive that but its always possible when Messiah comes we will know"
those same people do not hold Yeshua a sinner point out varying degrees of
Halacvha and tradition, men who really know theur Judaism so to say. They
hear what I say to them and dont discount it entirely, they take "well its
possible lets wait and see"
Usaully these men in my opinion are atetmpting to be true Torah keepers and
might have a right heart with YHVH. I cant tell, but ive seen very gentle
Jews in nature Meek and very decent people. Ive seen this among Christians
and Jews in the opposite as well. goes to prove that man is man.. The Tenak
talks about sin so many times and often and the dangers of it, to evern
attempt to correct this person would be fruitless.. Peace
why? Because Yeshua met many like this who he said "you are not far from
The Kingdom"
"Ray" <raymokeeffe@888hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"R?ain - ��" <riain@riain.com> wrote in message
news:uqGdnaSi4JKg17jfRVn-jw@comcast.com...

***** off, idiot

Seriously, your attack on me (calling me an idiot) made me react with much
laughter...

However, the signs are there.

I am not a bible basher

I seek the truth and do not adhere to any sect or belief system

IN my search I found that English things I mentioned...

for you to call me an idiot shows me that you have experienced many bible
based idiots... but do not assume me to one of them, I have met many of
them
too.

Gods will... all will be at peace with Him.

PEace

: > : =========================
: > :
: > :
: >
: >
:
:

User: "R?ain - ��"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	03 Mar 2005 12:40:26 AM

Rubbish!
"Scott" <Scott@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:f9gVd.37831$Tt.26690@fed1read05...
: Here we go again!!! oh man heh
.

User: "Scott"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	03 Mar 2005 01:05:53 AM

"R?ain - ��" <riain@riain.com> wrote in message
news:Ge-dnUZ7M9S0LLvfRVn-vQ@comcast.com...

Rubbish!

"Scott" <Scott@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:f9gVd.37831$Tt.26690@fed1read05...
: Here we go again!!! oh man heh

do you think Hosea the prophet is wrong then?
Hosea 1;
8. Now when she had weaned Lo-Ruhamah, she conceived and bore a son.
9. Then God said: "Call his name Lo-Ammi, for you are not My people, and I
will not be your God.
10. "Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the
sea, which cannot be measured or numbered. And it shall come to pass in the
place where it was said to them, `You are not My people,' there it shall be
said to them, `You are the sons of the living God.'
do you think that GOD would truly kill his own children?
Yet we can see in the prophets that this is exactly what HE WILL DO in the
end. Because HIS Children follow and Love HIM, children who love HIM NOT
WHO DO NOT LOVE YHVH ELOHIM iof they learn not The Love of HIM i assure you
you shall see that HE WIL BE NO FATHER to such children.
HIS children are those who walk after HIM in obediance and do HIS GOOD WILL.
if you think thats rubbish I pray you read The Tenak more carefully
.

User: "R?ain - ��"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	03 Mar 2005 01:21:13 AM

Learn to read the whole bloody CHAPTER, IDIOT!
It is not a PROPHECY!
"Scott" <Scott@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:lHyVd.38371$Tt.13881@fed1read05...
:
:
:
:
: "R?ain - ��" <riain@riain.com> wrote in message
: news:Ge-dnUZ7M9S0LLvfRVn-vQ@comcast.com...
: > Rubbish!
: >
: >
: > "Scott" <Scott@nospam.com> wrote in message
: > news:f9gVd.37831$Tt.26690@fed1read05...
: > : Here we go again!!! oh man heh
: >
: >
:
: do you think Hosea the prophet is wrong then?
:
: Hosea 1;
:
: 8. Now when she had weaned Lo-Ruhamah, she conceived and bore a son.
: 9. Then God said: "Call his name Lo-Ammi, for you are not My people,
and I
: will not be your God.
:
: 10. "Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of
the
: sea, which cannot be measured or numbered. And it shall come to pass
in the
: place where it was said to them, `You are not My people,' there it
shall be
: said to them, `You are the sons of the living God.'
:
: do you think that GOD would truly kill his own children?
:
: Yet we can see in the prophets that this is exactly what HE WILL DO in
the
: end. Because HIS Children follow and Love HIM, children who love HIM
NOT
: WHO DO NOT LOVE YHVH ELOHIM iof they learn not The Love of HIM i
assure you
: you shall see that HE WIL BE NO FATHER to such children.
:
: HIS children are those who walk after HIM in obediance and do HIS GOOD
WILL.
:
: if you think thats rubbish I pray you read The Tenak more carefully
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
.

User: "Jan Pompe"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	03 Mar 2005 02:06:03 AM

Scott wrote:
Scott you really should not be shooting off y9ur mouth until you
thoroughly comprehend those passges in Leviticus and Deuteronomy that I
gave you to look at.

User: "Scott"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	03 Mar 2005 01:40:34 AM

I do fully comprehend them but if you think not tell me what im missing!!
havent i asked that a few times now? what am i missing?
asking you a fair and honest question, are you doing likewise and treating
me fair and honest in return? maybe you are but i feel somewhat wronged by
this to a small degree, I absolutely comprehend " you shall do ALL THAT I
COMMANDED YOU" and i know no one today does.. you do understand that
correct?
i will ask again, in case for some reason i have not been clear, obviously
you are suggesting i do not comprehend it fully.. ok what should I
comprehend?
I agreed with in part. however I fully explain what i meant by "letting us
go" as not to mean total destruction, hence you say " we are still here
today" of course never would The Jews ever be wiped out..
look here is what i mean again;
let-us-go
stopped giving us divine protection, stopped from keeping the Torah in
full effect ( destruction of Temple)
let-us-go >> out unto the nations as exiles because
of what exactly is said there in those chapters,, what am i failing to see?
commands us to acknowledge our guilt and the guilt of our fathers.. the
guilt being not keeping Torah HOLY.
YOU- SHALL- KEEP- ALL, NOT SOME, ALL THAT I COMMAND YOU..
what is there in that verse that says anything hard to be understood?
if- you- feel- i do= not- comprehend fully- then= give me your
understanding how you view it so we can move on.obviously you want to teach
me something? im waiting what dont i comprehend? its very simple truth
there.
"Jan Pompe" <janp@!!dx.com.au> wrote in message
news:112de9lskejjh6c@news.supernews.com...

Scott wrote:

Scott you really should not be shooting off y9ur mouth until you
thoroughly comprehend those passges in Leviticus and Deuteronomy that I
gave you to look at.

User: "Jan Pompe"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	03 Mar 2005 02:44:36 AM

Scott wrote:

I do fully comprehend them but if you think not tell me what im missing!!
havent i asked that a few times now? what am i missing?

I suggested you write a precis of the passages you have not done this
yet. It's difficult to tell precisley what you are missing if you keep
going off on tangents which are not entirely relevent as you do below.

asking you a fair and honest question, are you doing likewise and treating
me fair and honest in return?

I can't pour understanding into your head that is something you have to
do for yourself.

maybe you are but i feel somewhat wronged by
this to a small degree, I absolutely comprehend " you shall do ALL THAT I
COMMANDED YOU" and i know no one today does.. you do understand that
correct?

User: "Scott"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	03 Mar 2005 01:58:33 AM

"Jan Pompe" <janp@!!dx.com.au> wrote in message
news:112dghvpkiq8g7c@news.supernews.com...

Scott wrote:

I do fully comprehend them but if you think not tell me what im missing!!
havent i asked that a few times now? what am i missing?

I suggested you write a precis of the passages you have not done this yet.
It's difficult to tell precisley what you are missing if you keep going
off on tangents which are not entirely relevent as you do below.

asking you a fair and honest question, are you doing likewise and
treating me fair and honest in return?

I can't pour understanding into your head that is something you have to do
for yourself.

maybe you are but i feel somewhat wronged by this to a small degree, I
absolutely comprehend " you shall do ALL THAT I COMMANDED YOU" and i know
no one today does.. you do understand that correct?

ok i will do that. i did not see that request, ill get on to that.. ok?
.

User: "Jan Pompe"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	03 Mar 2005 03:21:43 AM

Scott wrote:

"Jan Pompe" <janp@!!dx.com.au> wrote in message
news:112dghvpkiq8g7c@news.supernews.com...

Scott wrote:

I do fully comprehend them but if you think not tell me what im missing!!
havent i asked that a few times now? what am i missing?

I suggested you write a precis of the passages you have not done this yet.
It's difficult to tell precisley what you are missing if you keep going
off on tangents which are not entirely relevent as you do below.

asking you a fair and honest question, are you doing likewise and
treating me fair and honest in return?

I can't pour understanding into your head that is something you have to do
for yourself.

maybe you are but i feel somewhat wronged by this to a small degree, I
absolutely comprehend " you shall do ALL THAT I COMMANDED YOU" and i know
no one today does.. you do understand that correct?

ok i will do that. i did not see that request, ill get on to that.. ok?

great.
.

User: "Scott"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	03 Mar 2005 01:50:57 AM

im really not trying to be rude to you, i promised i wold try to see your
viewsm but i need to know what you want me to see in order for me to see
your view!!
really bro, I hold no ill will towards you and i will keep my word with
you, if i ask questions, i wont ask in this post string in a deabte like
manner, illask your point of view if i fail to comprehend what it is you are
trying to say fair?
"Scott" <Scott@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:SbzVd.38381$Tt.35548@fed1read05...

I do fully comprehend them but if you think not tell me what im missing!!
havent i asked that a few times now? what am i missing?

asking you a fair and honest question, are you doing likewise and treating
me fair and honest in return? maybe you are but i feel somewhat wronged by
this to a small degree, I absolutely comprehend " you shall do ALL THAT I
COMMANDED YOU" and i know no one today does.. you do understand that
correct?

i will ask again, in case for some reason i have not been clear, obviously
you are suggesting i do not comprehend it fully.. ok what should I
comprehend?

I agreed with in part. however I fully explain what i meant by "letting
us go" as not to mean total destruction, hence you say " we are still here
today" of course never would The Jews ever be wiped out..

look here is what i mean again;

let-us-go

stopped giving us divine protection, stopped from keeping the Torah in
full effect ( destruction of Temple)

let-us-go >> out unto the nations as exiles because
of what exactly is said there in those chapters,, what am i failing to
see?

commands us to acknowledge our guilt and the guilt of our fathers.. the
guilt being not keeping Torah HOLY.

YOU- SHALL- KEEP- ALL, NOT SOME, ALL THAT I COMMAND YOU..

what is there in that verse that says anything hard to be understood?

if- you- feel- i do= not- comprehend fully- then= give me your
understanding how you view it so we can move on.obviously you want to
teach me something? im waiting what dont i comprehend? its very simple
truth there.

"Jan Pompe" <janp@!!dx.com.au> wrote in message
news:112de9lskejjh6c@news.supernews.com...

Scott wrote:

Scott you really should not be shooting off y9ur mouth until you
thoroughly comprehend those passges in Leviticus and Deuteronomy that I
gave you to look at.

User: "Jan Pompe"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	03 Mar 2005 02:57:31 AM

Scott wrote:

im really not trying to be rude to you, i promised i wold try to see your
viewsm but i need to know what you want me to see in order for me to see
your view!!

really bro, I hold no ill will towards you and i will keep my word with
you, if i ask questions, i wont ask in this post string in a deabte like
manner, illask your point of view if i fail to comprehend what it is you are
trying to say fair?

Write out a precis.
.

User: "Ray"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	01 Mar 2005 11:49:36 PM

"R?ain - ��" <riain@riain.com> wrote in message
news:uqGdnaSi4JKg17jfRVn-jw@comcast.com...

***** off, idiot

LMAO
hahaha,
ME the idiot...lmao...
Seems you cannot Listen... that makes you more of an idiot than I was before
I could talk.
PEace

: > : =========================
: > :
: > :
: >
: >
:
:

User: ""
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	02 Mar 2005 02:41:31 AM

And Jews do not have relations with pigs or goats or Cohens (unless
their father is "Jewish" whatever the ***** "Jewish" means)..
So perhaps Susan could tell us who she is legally fucking according to
"Jewish Law" - given her personality it would be ---- forget it.
.

User: "R?ain - ��"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	03 Mar 2005 12:40:57 AM

Perhaps you could *****, you Jew-Hating *****...
<greebo@volcanomail.com> wrote in message
news:1109752891.610207.117070@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
: And Jews do not have relations with pigs or goats or Cohens (unless
: their father is "Jewish" whatever the ***** "Jewish" means)..
:
: So perhaps Susan could tell us who she is legally fucking according to
: "Jewish Law" - given her personality it would be ---- forget it.
:
.

User: "Mr. Snoopy"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	02 Mar 2005 11:19:09 PM

We all know what you are trying to say,...
The real God is the Jewish God called MONEY.
Susan knows this, so do Jew politicians, crooked Law firms and ENRON Jew
styled businesses.
"R?ain - ��" <riain@riain.com> wrote in message
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God did not have sexual relations with any woman!!!

It is a complete fallacy and a well-known PAGAN religious concept!

Jesus more than likely was a complete myth, if not, he was not a rabbi,
and he was most certainly not the messiah, nor divine.

Humans are not enslaved in sin, that would go against what God is and
what God is about, therefore we do not need to be freed from it.

You do not need to believe that any human is divine in order to be
reincarnated or resurrected by God. God does not need to rely on any
human to fulfil Universal Divine Will.

All humans are the "children" of God as we all have God give souls.

We are equal and are not born with original sin or any other kind of
sin. Children cannot be held responsible for anything that they cannot
reason to be wrong. The same goes for any human that is mentally or
emotionally or physically impaired. Do you think God punished innocent
people?

Jesus did not speak a single word that was written in "red".

I suggest you get an education in New Testament Studies, Biblical Text
Studies, Biblical Archaeology, Philosophy, Physics, and LOGIC!

"RAYPHOS" <RAYPHOS@BigFoot.com> wrote in message
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: "Susan Cohen"
:
: I would recommend that you be very very careful with what
: you say!
:
: Your statements concerning Jesus's death could come close
: to the unpardonable sin. Especially, if you believed that
: Jesus is the Son
: of God who suffered to free us from the slavery of sin and
: the
: penalty of permanent death. And you still malign despite
: the
: fact the "red" words of Jesus spoke, you are already lost!
: --
: Best regards
: RAYPHOS
: Fax (01) 514-3724199
:

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User: "Scott"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	03 Mar 2005 12:07:28 AM

"Mr. Snoopy" <nouse@ha.com> wrote in message
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We all know what you are trying to say,...

The real God is the Jewish God called MONEY.

Susan knows this, so do Jew politicians, crooked Law firms and ENRON Jew
styled businesses.

"R?ain - ��" <riain@riain.com> wrote in message
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doesnt anyone here fear YHVH?
so what then if the Jewish G-D is money then whose is Bill Gates and the
Goyim who seek greed?
remove the mote out of your own eye first, man oh man. Yep plenty of
people called "Jews" who are greedy, is that just an ill condition of those
partucular "Jews"
thats anti semistism,. you lump the whole of what is called "Jewish" and
equate it with money?
2 wrongs dont make a right if these Jews here lump the whole of whats
called "Christianity to evil"
reminds me of the Prsybertarians, who have taken themselves out of Israel
because Israel does "Terrible Hman rights violations"
man oh man, while Israel today is not the real Jewish State (Torah not in
force and effect and Messiah ruling)
there so called "Human rights voilations pale in comparsion to many other
countries.. but here it is again, what really is anti semistism, when Israel
is treated with way more disdain then other countrieswho do worse, its anti
semistism thru and thru,, why because "Of those Jews"
THE JUDGEMENT OF YHVH who shall escape it?
so called Christians who hold to these things are in severe danger and in
Yeshua you wil have no part if you do not repent of your bias in hatred..
'in as many who sin having The Torah is no different in ans many who sinned
not having Torah" PERIOD
GOD SHOWS NO FAVOR. matters not what this first person posted herem, He
has to answer to whatis truth as well. and admit HIS GUILT and his fathers
guilt as well that none keep Torah and ask YHVH that He be our teacher in
HIS TRUE TORAH.. Peace
.

User: "R?ain - ��"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	03 Mar 2005 01:22:29 AM

Of ***** you are no better than the Anti-Semite you speak against!
"Scott" <Scott@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:AQxVd.38359$Tt.25455@fed1read05...
:
:
:
: "Mr. Snoopy" <nouse@ha.com> wrote in message
: news:42269e4d_6@galaxy.uncensored-news.com...
: > We all know what you are trying to say,...
: >
: > The real God is the Jewish God called MONEY.
: >
: > Susan knows this, so do Jew politicians, crooked Law firms and ENRON
Jew
: > styled businesses.
: >
: >
: > "R?ain - ��" <riain@riain.com> wrote in message
: > news:Naydnaid4_PEpbjfRVn-vA@comcast.com...
: >> God did not have sexual relations with any woman!!!
: >>
: >> It is a complete fallacy and a well-known PAGAN religious concept!
: >>
: >> Jesus more than likely was a complete myth, if not, he was not a
rabbi,
: >> and he was most certainly not the messiah, nor divine.
: >>
: >> Humans are not enslaved in sin, that would go against what God is
and
: >> what God is about, therefore we do not need to be freed from it.
: >>
: >> You do not need to believe that any human is divine in order to be
: >> reincarnated or resurrected by God. God does not need to rely on
any
: >> human to fulfil Universal Divine Will.
: >>
: >> All humans are the "children" of God as we all have God give souls.
: >>
: >> We are equal and are not born with original sin or any other kind
of
: >> sin. Children cannot be held responsible for anything that they
cannot
: >> reason to be wrong. The same goes for any human that is mentally or
: >> emotionally or physically impaired. Do you think God punished
innocent
: >> people?
: >>
: >> Jesus did not speak a single word that was written in "red".
: >>
: >> I suggest you get an education in New Testament Studies, Biblical
Text
: >> Studies, Biblical Archaeology, Philosophy, Physics, and LOGIC!
: >>
: >>
: >>
: >>
: >> "RAYPHOS" <RAYPHOS@BigFoot.com> wrote in message
: >> news:482dnUrkc7ZtsrjfRVn-qw@look.ca...
: >> : "Susan Cohen"
: >> :
: >> : I would recommend that you be very very careful with what
: >> : you say!
: >> :
: >> : Your statements concerning Jesus's death could come close
: >> : to the unpardonable sin. Especially, if you believed that
: >> : Jesus is the Son
: >> : of God who suffered to free us from the slavery of sin and
: >> : the
: >> : penalty of permanent death. And you still malign despite
: >> : the
: >> : fact the "red" words of Jesus spoke, you are already lost!
: >> : --
: >> : Best regards
: >> : RAYPHOS
: >> : Fax (01) 514-3724199
: >> :

: >> : =========================
: >> :
: >> :
: >>
: >>
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: >
: >
: >
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: doesnt anyone here fear YHVH?
:
: so what then if the Jewish G-D is money then whose is Bill Gates and
the
: Goyim who seek greed?
:
: remove the mote out of your own eye first, man oh man. Yep plenty of
: people called "Jews" who are greedy, is that just an ill condition of
those
: partucular "Jews"
:
: thats anti semistism,. you lump the whole of what is called "Jewish"
and
: equate it with money?
:
: 2 wrongs dont make a right if these Jews here lump the whole of whats
: called "Christianity to evil"
:
: reminds me of the Prsybertarians, who have taken themselves out of
Israel
: because Israel does "Terrible Hman rights violations"
:
: man oh man, while Israel today is not the real Jewish State (Torah
not in
: force and effect and Messiah ruling)
:
: there so called "Human rights voilations pale in comparsion to many
other
: countries.. but here it is again, what really is anti semistism, when
Israel
: is treated with way more disdain then other countrieswho do worse, its
anti
: semistism thru and thru,, why because "Of those Jews"
:
: THE JUDGEMENT OF YHVH who shall escape it?
:
: so called Christians who hold to these things are in severe danger and
in
: Yeshua you wil have no part if you do not repent of your bias in
hatred..
:
: 'in as many who sin having The Torah is no different in ans many who
sinned
: not having Torah" PERIOD
:
: GOD SHOWS NO FAVOR. matters not what this first person posted herem,
He
: has to answer to whatis truth as well. and admit HIS GUILT and his
fathers
: guilt as well that none keep Torah and ask YHVH that He be our teacher
in
: HIS TRUE TORAH.. Peace
:
:
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User: "R?ain - ��"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	03 Mar 2005 01:19:13 AM

Wring as usual, you Jew-Hating scumbag!
"Mr. Snoopy" <nouse@ha.com> wrote in message
news:42269e4d_6@galaxy.uncensored-news.com...
: We all know what you are trying to say,...
:
: The real God is the Jewish God called MONEY.
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User: "Scott"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	03 Mar 2005 01:42:53 AM

this ought to prove proverbs 9 correct for others here have that faith in
GOD as you can see there is nothing new under this son. proves that HE IS
RIGHT ONCE AGAIN. is HASHEM ever wrong? NO, i see that not, always right is
HE for good or for evil HIS WORD IS FOREVER!!
"R?ain - ��" <riain@riain.com> wrote in message
news:756dnacJ3e-rJ7vfRVn-jA@comcast.com...

Wring as usual, you Jew-Hating scumbag!

"Mr. Snoopy" <nouse@ha.com> wrote in message
news:42269e4d_6@galaxy.uncensored-news.com...
: We all know what you are trying to say,...
:
: The real God is the Jewish God called MONEY.

User: "Visscher"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	02 Mar 2005 04:24:54 AM

I guess you all have been reading
the fiction thriller The Da Vicy Code
It has gon into your minds.
I see
Pastor reverend Albert Visscher
----- Original Message -----
From: "RAYPHOS" <RAYPHOS@BigFoot.com>
Newsgroups: alt.atheism,soc.culture.jewish,alt.bible.prophecy
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 3:06 AM
Subject: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of
Christ?

"Susan Cohen"

I would recommend that you be very very careful with what
you say!

Your statements concerning Jesus's death could come close
to the unpardonable sin. Especially, if you believed that
Jesus is the Son
of God who suffered to free us from the slavery of sin and
the
penalty of permanent death. And you still malign despite
the
fact the "red" words of Jesus spoke, you are already lost!
--
Best regards
RAYPHOS
Fax (01) 514-3724199
RayPhos@bigfoot.com
=========================

"RAYPHOS" <RAYPHOS@BigFoot.com> wrote in message
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User: "Susan Cohen"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	02 Mar 2005 09:19:44 PM

"Visscher" <visscher@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:d0449m$mr9$1@sparta.btinternet.com...

I guess you all have been reading
the fiction thriller The Da Vicy Code

"you all"?
I do hope you've managed to come up with a definition of "you all"
pertaining to this thread that lets me out.
Susan

It has gon into your minds.

I see

Pastor reverend Albert Visscher

----- Original Message -----
From: "RAYPHOS" <RAYPHOS@BigFoot.com>
Newsgroups: alt.atheism,soc.culture.jewish,alt.bible.prophecy
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 3:06 AM
Subject: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of
Christ?

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User: "Visscher"
Title: Spend better timen Of Christ?	02 Mar 2005 04:28:22 AM

It is more fruitfull to sing the song 'Yes, Jesus loves me' than spending
more time to qeustion wheter God had sex with a woman
Pastor Reverend Albert
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User: "Robibnikoff"
Title: Re: Spend better timen Of Christ?	02 Mar 2005 04:36:23 AM

"Visscher" <visscher@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:d044g6$ndb$1@sparta.btinternet.com...

It is more fruitfull to sing the song 'Yes, Jesus loves me' than spending
more time to qeustion wheter God had sex with a woman

Pastor Reverend Albert

WTF? Is English not your first language?
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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User: "Susan Cohen"
Title: Re: Spend better timen Of Christ?	02 Mar 2005 07:08:34 PM

"Visscher" <visscher@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:d044g6$ndb$1@sparta.btinternet.com...

It is more fruitfull to sing the song 'Yes, Jesus loves me' than spending
more time to qeustion wheter God had sex with a woman

No, it's better to keep your misisonizing to yourselves.
Susan
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User: "Pat Harrington"
Title: Re: Spend better timen Of Christ?	03 Mar 2005 05:59:36 AM

"Visscher" <visscher@btinternet.com> wrote in message news:<d044g6$ndb$1@sparta.btinternet.com>...

It is more fruitfull to sing the song 'Yes, Jesus loves me' than spending
more time to qeustion wheter God had sex with a woman

Pastor Reverend Albert

"RAYPHOS" <RAYPHOS@BigFoot.com> wrote in message
news:482dnUrkc7ZtsrjfRVn-qw@look.ca...

"Susan Cohen"

I would recommend that you be very very careful with what
you say!

Your statements concerning Jesus's death could come close
to the unpardonable sin.

What MAN said that God could/would not pardon some sin? Paul of
Tarsus? Paul couldn't forgive himself for being human. Disregard
EVERYTHING that came from him.

Especially, if you believed that
Jesus is the Son
of God who suffered to free us from the slavery of sin and
the
penalty of permanent death. And you still malign despite
the
fact the "red" words of Jesus spoke, you are already lost!
--
Best regards
RAYPHOS
Fax (01) 514-3724199
RayPhos@bigfoot.com
=========================

It is more fruitful to sing "Yes, we have no bananas today".
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User: "Pastor Dave"
Title: Re: Spend better timen Of Christ?	03 Mar 2005 10:18:20 AM

On 3 Mar 2005 03:59:36 -0800, after pondering deep
thoughts,

(Pat
Harrington) spake thusly:

Your statements concerning Jesus's death could come close
to the unpardonable sin.

What MAN said that God could/would not pardon some sin? Paul of
Tarsus? Paul couldn't forgive himself for being human. Disregard
EVERYTHING that came from him.

The self proclaimed Bible expert speaks.
"And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of
man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that
blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be
forgiven." - Jesus, Luke 12:10
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditations." - Psalm 119:99
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"And take the helmet of salvation and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/solution.html
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User: "Susan Cohen"
Title: Re: Spend better timen Of Christ?	03 Mar 2005 10:24:07 PM

"Pastor Dave" <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:pvde21p0ljnjcstn1i99fdnjfg7k15lu8b@4ax.com...

The self proclaimed Bible expert speaks.

Yes, but most people aren't paying any attention to you.
[snip missionizing]
Susan
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User: "Pat Harrington"
Title: Re: Spend better timen Of Christ?	03 Mar 2005 06:14:05 PM

Pastor Dave <newsgroupmail@nospam-tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message news:<pvde21p0ljnjcstn1i99fdnjfg7k15lu8b@4ax.com>...

On 3 Mar 2005 03:59:36 -0800, after pondering deep
thoughts,

(Pat
Harrington) spake thusly:

Your statements concerning Jesus's death could come close
to the unpardonable sin.

What MAN said that God could/would not pardon some sin? Paul of
Tarsus? Paul couldn't forgive himself for being human. Disregard
EVERYTHING that came from him.

Fine. Do you have a source for that OTHER than Luke? Luke told
the Gospel story as it was told to him by his best friend, Paul of
Tarsus. It was third-hand information at best written by a man in awe
of a man who never met Jesus.
The "Holy Ghost" or ruach ha-qadesh is the "holy spirit" that
dwells in each of us. To blaspheme against it would be to deny that
man has a spirit. Blasphemy against the "Holy Ghost" in Jesus' time
would NOT have been a reference to one part of a triune Christian
deity. The trinity was a Greek concept that had to be incorporated
into Christianity so that the Greeks would accept it. The same is
true of the eradication of circumcision, which is what sparked the
huge row between Peter, James, John and Andrew against Paul. Paul was
the used-car salesman of Christ. He figured if he could sell
Christianity at any price he would be able to rid himself of the guilt
of his own part in the institutionalised persecution of early
Christians.

--

Pastor Dave Raymond

"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditations." - Psalm 119:99

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