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Topic:	Religions > Atheism
User:	"Citizen_Cain"
Date:	27 Jan 2005 02:24:39 PM
Object:	Re: (OT) Why "The Passion of the Christ" Wasn't Nom'd for Best Pic

"curious" <nope@nope.com> wrote in message
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http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/26/oscar.passion/index.html

""Hollywood has spoken. 'Don't mess with us,' is what they're saying,"
said Jennifer Giroux of seethepassion.com. " 'Don't mess with us because
we will not consider your talent if you do anything that is Christian,'
is the message that's coming out.""

Yes, I am sure that's exactly the reason why. It's an anti-Christian
bias.

Her statement makes me wonder if she herself has a little bias towards
Hollywood.

-curious
"Those people" control it, you know... *rolls eyes*

Yea, never mind the fact that the film sucked balls and Mel Gibson is a
fruit loop.
.

User: "Christopher A. Lee"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	15 Feb 2005 10:54:54 AM

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 11:46:44 -0500, "Mary Hogan"
<hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote:

Modern society.....that is a stumbling block...

There have been countless so called "modern societies" that destroyed
themselves....countless..

modern society is just a conglomeration of people who buy into new methods
of self...and who is the puppet master....HaSatan....the accuser, the Melech
HaMovis, the angel of death, the Yetzer Hara...the Evil Inclination....

Who is winning in this corrupt society.....

How many such corrupt societies have succombed to selfishness.

The Torah Scholar...the Great Sages and Rabbies, the Tannaim.....they knew
these strategies of destruction....but you, chose to be a lemming.

Why are so many theists such liars?

a lemming

"Elroy Willis" <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
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Mary Hogan <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in alt.atheism

There is the Christian dilemma....they have been brainwashed to see the
Torah as a "bunch of silly rules."

Not all of them, just some of them. Some of them just flat out don't
apply to modern society.

Gee, I wonder how much of a hayday Satan has with that Lutherian
brainwashing. The truth is, the Torah is about eliminating "self" from
ones life.

So you want to become like some robot or hive worker bee or ant
which serves some queen or king or god?

--
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User: "Mary Hogan"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	15 Feb 2005 11:07:36 AM

The Truth really ruffles C.A. Lee's feathers...
"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 11:46:44 -0500, "Mary Hogan"
<hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote:

Modern society.....that is a stumbling block...

There have been countless so called "modern societies" that destroyed
themselves....countless..

modern society is just a conglomeration of people who buy into new methods
of self...and who is the puppet master....HaSatan....the accuser, the
Melech
HaMovis, the angel of death, the Yetzer Hara...the Evil Inclination....

Who is winning in this corrupt society.....

How many such corrupt societies have succombed to selfishness.

The Torah Scholar...the Great Sages and Rabbies, the Tannaim.....they knew
these strategies of destruction....but you, chose to be a lemming.

Why are so many theists such liars?

a lemming

"Elroy Willis" <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
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Mary Hogan <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in alt.atheism

There is the Christian dilemma....they have been brainwashed to see the
Torah as a "bunch of silly rules."

Not all of them, just some of them. Some of them just flat out don't
apply to modern society.

Gee, I wonder how much of a hayday Satan has with that Lutherian
brainwashing. The truth is, the Torah is about eliminating "self" from
ones life.

So you want to become like some robot or hive worker bee or ant
which serves some queen or king or god?

--
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User: "The Real Riain"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	15 Feb 2005 07:22:07 PM

Why do so many atheists care?
Please provide your proof about theists being liars, lovely how you
bunch all theists together but when someone lumps all atheists together
you have a fit!
"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
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: On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 11:46:44 -0500, "Mary Hogan"
: <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote:
:
: >Modern society.....that is a stumbling block...
: >
: >There have been countless so called "modern societies" that destroyed
: >themselves....countless..
: >
: >modern society is just a conglomeration of people who buy into new
methods
: >of self...and who is the puppet master....HaSatan....the accuser, the
Melech
: >HaMovis, the angel of death, the Yetzer Hara...the Evil
Inclination....
: >
: >Who is winning in this corrupt society.....
: >
: >How many such corrupt societies have succombed to selfishness.
: >
: >The Torah Scholar...the Great Sages and Rabbies, the Tannaim.....they
knew
: >these strategies of destruction....but you, chose to be a lemming.
:
: Why are so many theists such liars?
:
: >a lemming
: >
: >
: >"Elroy Willis" <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
: >news:8d94115c1curgpo65jm0i8tse4klr9bs8e@4ax.com...
: >> Mary Hogan <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in alt.atheism
: >>
: >>> There is the Christian dilemma....they have been brainwashed to
see the
: >>> Torah as a "bunch of silly rules."
: >>
: >> Not all of them, just some of them. Some of them just flat out
don't
: >> apply to modern society.
: >>
: >>> Gee, I wonder how much of a hayday Satan has with that Lutherian
: >>> brainwashing. The truth is, the Torah is about eliminating "self"
from
: >>> ones life.
: >>
: >> So you want to become like some robot or hive worker bee or ant
: >> which serves some queen or king or god?
: >>
: >> --
: >> Elroy Willis
: >> www.elroysemporium.com
: >
: >
: >
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User: "marty"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	15 Feb 2005 07:12:04 PM

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 11:46:44 -0500, "Mary Hogan"
<hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote:

Yet you use this new method to post your thoughts .
Marty
.

User: "Mary Hogan"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	16 Feb 2005 07:18:28 AM

Hey marty.....block sender...you are too immature for me, thank you very
much....grow up!!
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On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 11:46:44 -0500, "Mary Hogan"
<hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote:

Yet you use this new method to post your thoughts .

Marty

User: "marty"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	16 Feb 2005 01:03:49 PM

On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 08:18:28 -0500, "Mary Hogan"
<hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote:

Hey marty.....block sender...you are too immature for me, thank you very
much....grow up!!

Block sender ?
Marty
.

User: "The Real Riain"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	15 Feb 2005 07:20:41 PM

You are a stumbling block -- Please stop talking about things you know
nothing about!
"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
news:42122807$1_1@127.0.0.1...
: Modern society.....that is a stumbling block...
:
: There have been countless so called "modern societies" that destroyed
: themselves....countless..
:
: modern society is just a conglomeration of people who buy into new
methods
: of self...and who is the puppet master....HaSatan....the accuser, the
Melech
: HaMovis, the angel of death, the Yetzer Hara...the Evil
Inclination....
:
: Who is winning in this corrupt society.....
:
: How many such corrupt societies have succombed to selfishness.
:
: The Torah Scholar...the Great Sages and Rabbies, the Tannaim.....they
knew
: these strategies of destruction....but you, chose to be a lemming.
:
: a lemming
:
:
: "Elroy Willis" <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
: news:8d94115c1curgpo65jm0i8tse4klr9bs8e@4ax.com...
: > Mary Hogan <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in alt.atheism
: >
: >> There is the Christian dilemma....they have been brainwashed to see
the
: >> Torah as a "bunch of silly rules."
: >
: > Not all of them, just some of them. Some of them just flat out
don't
: > apply to modern society.
: >
: >> Gee, I wonder how much of a hayday Satan has with that Lutherian
: >> brainwashing. The truth is, the Torah is about eliminating "self"
from
: >> ones life.
: >
: > So you want to become like some robot or hive worker bee or ant
: > which serves some queen or king or god?
: >
: > --
: > Elroy Willis
: > www.elroysemporium.com
:
:
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User: "The Real Riain"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	15 Feb 2005 07:20:01 PM

No such being as SATAN, church lady!
"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
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: There is the Christian dilemma....they have been brainwashed to see
the
: Torah as a "bunch of silly rules." Gee, I wonder how much of a hayday
Satan
: has with that Lutherian brainwashing. The truth is, the Torah is
about
: eliminating "self" from ones life. What the Rabbis discuss and
define, are
: methods and techniques to getting to the gist of our existance,
getting to
: know God to the best of one's ability...or self cost.
:
: What you learn from these great Sages is that...nothing is to be taken
for
: granted..... nothing. Time is precious...but only when used to
eliminate
: transient self-gratificatory behavior and pursue...the Only One worthy
of
: pursuit...the Master of the Universe, the God of Avraham, the God of
: Yitshak, the God of Yaakov.
:
:
: "Ash" <ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
: news:cut6g1$g68$3@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
: > Jan Pompe wrote:
: >> Elroy Willis wrote:
: >>
: >>> "Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in alt.atheism
: >>>
: >>>
: >>>> There is not one jot, nor tittle obsolete in the Torah.....
: >>>
: >>>
: >>>
: >>>> To call it "Old" is silly...and dangerous
: >>>
: >>>
: >>>
: >>> I wonder how many Jewish men leave town for a day whenever they
have
: >>> a wet dream or nocturnal emissions?
: >>
: >>
: >> Is there any reason without a teple why they should?
: >>
: >>>
: >>> I also wonder how many Jews support taking disobedient children
: >>> to the edge of town and stoning them to death...
: >>>
: >>
: >> While the children are minors their parents are responsible for
their
: >> behaviour children cannot therefore be held accountable after
attaining
: >> their majority they are responsible for their own actions and
cannot be
: >> held accountable to their parents commands. So how is the scenario
you
: >> mention ever going to occur?
: >>
: > By following the commands in the bible I assume
:
:
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User: "Mary Hogan"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	15 Feb 2005 09:27:15 AM

That halachah is based on not setting yourself up for....incendiary thought.
It is deep.
"Jan Pompe" <janp@!!dx.com.au> wrote in message
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Elroy Willis wrote:

"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in alt.atheism

There is not one jot, nor tittle obsolete in the Torah.....

To call it "Old" is silly...and dangerous

I wonder how many Jewish men leave town for a day whenever they have
a wet dream or nocturnal emissions?

Is there any reason without a teple why they should?

I also wonder how many Jews support taking disobedient children
to the edge of town and stoning them to death...

While the children are minors their parents are responsible for their
behaviour children cannot therefore be held accountable after attaining
their majority they are responsible for their own actions and cannot be
held accountable to their parents commands. So how is the scenario you
mention ever going to occur?

User: "Elroy Willis"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	15 Feb 2005 10:03:20 AM

Mary Hogan <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in alt.atheism

Jan Pompe <janp@!!dx.com.au> wrote in message

Elroy Willis wrote:

Mary Hogan <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in alt.atheism

There is not one jot, nor tittle obsolete in the Torah.....
To call it "Old" is silly...and dangerous

I wonder how many Jewish men leave town for a day whenever they have
a wet dream or nocturnal emissions?

Is there any reason without a teple why they should?

That halachah is based on not setting yourself up for....incendiary thought.
It is deep.

How deep?
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
.

User: "Mary Hogan"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	15 Feb 2005 10:07:34 AM

Layer upon layer....what you hear in a shiur by Rabbi Kalatsky...may not
apply for months....and the shiur itself is made up of thousands of bits....
This is designed like a quest....like a knack...like ice skating....you
first learn to stand on the ice, then to skate backwords...step by step.
Like Music, you start with teaching little fingers to play, and then
progress through and on to one level higher after another.
That is why people are accountable, they assume, they speculate, they self
their lives to death and end up with nothing.
You will never learn anything with that attitude
"Elroy Willis" <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
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Mary Hogan <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in alt.atheism

Jan Pompe <janp@!!dx.com.au> wrote in message

Elroy Willis wrote:

Mary Hogan <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in alt.atheism

There is not one jot, nor tittle obsolete in the Torah.....

To call it "Old" is silly...and dangerous

I wonder how many Jewish men leave town for a day whenever they have
a wet dream or nocturnal emissions?

Is there any reason without a teple why they should?

That halachah is based on not setting yourself up for....incendiary
thought.

It is deep.

How deep?

--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com

User: "Elroy Willis"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	15 Feb 2005 10:43:54 AM

Mary Hogan <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in alt.atheism

Just like I thought, you're mired so deep in superstition and
symbology that you'll probably never find your way back to the surface
of rationality. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that you believe
in astrology and numerology as well...
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
.

User: "Mary Hogan"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	15 Feb 2005 10:52:50 AM

It is not superstition.....you are on such a low level...the level of
self....the level of ego and abject meism....that you can't even understand
a fraction of what I write....but...there are many on this ng who are at
least at my level and beyond....who understand completely what I say. You
see....there are some who learn....and there are those who fight with all
their might that they know....when they haven't spend a minute in
learning....
My level is like this: There are a decillion miles to travel.....I'm on
mile two thousand....but you....haven't even begun the trek.
"Elroy Willis" <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
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Mary Hogan <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in alt.atheism

Layer upon layer....what you hear in a shiur by Rabbi Kalatsky...may not
apply for months....and the shiur itself is made up of thousands of
bits....

This is designed like a quest....like a knack...like ice skating....you
first learn to stand on the ice, then to skate backwords...step by step.

User: "Elroy Willis"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	15 Feb 2005 01:16:04 PM

Mary Hogan <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in alt.atheism

It is not superstition.....you are on such a low level...the level of
self....the level of ego and abject meism....that you can't even
understand a fraction of what I write.

Have you ever actually put your beliefs to the test, or do you wimp
out like the Christians do, who fall back on some NT verse which tells
them not to "tempt the Lord" or put Jesus to any sort of actual
tests which he can pass or fail?
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
.

User: "Ash"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	15 Feb 2005 12:20:23 PM

Mary Hogan wrote:

It's kind of refreshing to meet a non Christian kook for once
.

User: "Susan Cohen"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	15 Feb 2005 01:58:03 PM

"Ash" <ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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Mary is a Xian, and a well-meaning person.
Susan
.

User: "Liz"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	16 Feb 2005 06:20:53 AM

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 19:58:03 GMT, "Susan Cohen" <flavia13@verizon.net>
in news message <fvsQd.31379$uc.11325@trnddc03> wrote:

"Ash" <ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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Mary is a Xian, and a well-meaning person.

For some strange reason, the Good Intentions Paving Co. comes to mind.
Liz #658 BAAWA
Faith is a method designed to keep a person willfully ignorant of the odds
by arbitrarily assigning certainty where certainty is not justified. - Denis Loubet
.

User: "The Rev+d"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	15 Feb 2005 10:49:04 PM

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 19:58:03 GMT, "Suzy the convert"
<flavia13@verizon.net> wrote:

"Ash" <ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:cutegt$sbe$3@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...

Mary is a Xian, and a well-meaning person.

Mary is a shabbos goy like you, you thick Irish *****.

Suzy

User: "Jan Pompe"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	15 Feb 2005 03:18:44 PM

Susan Cohen wrote:

"Ash" <ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:cutegt$sbe$3@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...

Mary is a Xian, and a well-meaning person.

She is and i guess it doesn't always have to be the contradiction in
terms it often appears to be.

Susan

User: "Mary Hogan"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	15 Feb 2005 05:57:37 PM

I am not a Christian, I despise that term!.... I will not lie and say that
Yeshua is not still a vital part of my seeking and I truly do believe that
He, the Torah made flesh...will play a role in the end....but I won't preach
that because I haven't a Rabbi to stand on....and I firmly believe that the
Jew must remain a Jew......
"Jan Pompe" <janp@!!dx.com.au> wrote in message
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Susan Cohen wrote:

"Ash" <ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:cutegt$sbe$3@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...

Mary is a Xian, and a well-meaning person.

She is and i guess it doesn't always have to be the contradiction in terms
it often appears to be.

Susan

User: "Jan Pompe"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	15 Feb 2005 08:36:45 PM

Mary Hogan wrote:

IOW from our position you are on the Xian end of the spectrum still.
Most Xians would agree with you though.
Keep studying.

....but I won't preach
that because I haven't a Rabbi to stand on....and I firmly believe that the
Jew must remain a Jew......

A lot of Christains think that way too and this is good.
.

User: "Pastor Dave"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	16 Feb 2005 11:36:28 AM

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 18:57:37 -0500, after pondering
deep thoughts, "Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net>
spake thusly:

I am not a Christian, I despise that term!

Why?
--
Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditations." - Psalm 119:99
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"And take the helmet of salvation and the sword of
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http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/solution.html
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User: "Elroy Willis"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	16 Feb 2005 01:59:12 PM

Pastor Dave wrote in alt.atheism

Mary Hogan <hoogy@zoominternet.net> spake thusly:

I am not a Christian, I despise that term!

Why?

Maybe because so many of the most vocal and loud-mouthed Christians
are so despicable?
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
.

User: "Ash"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	15 Feb 2005 05:12:00 PM

Susan Cohen wrote:

"Ash" <ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:cutegt$sbe$3@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...

Mary is a Xian, and a well-meaning person.

Susan

oh, kind of dissapointed at that
.

User: "The Real Riain"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	15 Feb 2005 07:18:02 PM

MAry Hogan is a CHRISTIAN!!!!!!!!
"Ash" <ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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: Mary Hogan wrote:
: > It is not superstition.....you are on such a low level...the level
of
: > self....the level of ego and abject meism....that you can't even
understand
: > a fraction of what I write....but...there are many on this ng who
are at
: > least at my level and beyond....who understand completely what I
say. You
: > see....there are some who learn....and there are those who fight
with all
: > their might that they know....when they haven't spend a minute in
: > learning....
: >
: It's kind of refreshing to meet a non Christian kook for once
.

User: "Mary Hogan"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	15 Feb 2005 09:28:57 AM

See, Christians miss the whole Truth....in that when placed in a situation
with opposition, one either knows the strategy of the opposition, or one
wings it....winging it is deadly
"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
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That halachah is based on not setting yourself up for....incendiary
thought.

It is deep.

"Jan Pompe" <janp@!!dx.com.au> wrote in message
news:11144afnis9etdb@news.supernews.com...

Elroy Willis wrote:

"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in alt.atheism

There is not one jot, nor tittle obsolete in the Torah.....

To call it "Old" is silly...and dangerous

I wonder how many Jewish men leave town for a day whenever they have
a wet dream or nocturnal emissions?

Is there any reason without a teple why they should?

I also wonder how many Jews support taking disobedient children
to the edge of town and stoning them to death...

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User: "Mary Hogan"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	15 Feb 2005 09:33:22 AM

This adventure called life is a marathon. You either, like an airhead, take
each day as a crap shoot, or you slowly and patiently develop yourself to
the point where garbage is easily identified as garbage.
I have a something on my desk, that I can't identify the source:
True Salvation is the liberation of the mind from the shackles of falseness
and fantasy, which imagine that lust and gratification are meaningful and
valuable.
The Covenant of God places limitations upon man's actions and speech, but
you despise this Musar because it inhibits your pursuit of self
gratification.
"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
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See, Christians miss the whole Truth....in that when placed in a situation
with opposition, one either knows the strategy of the opposition, or one
wings it....winging it is deadly

"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
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That halachah is based on not setting yourself up for....incendiary
thought.

It is deep.

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Elroy Willis wrote:

"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in alt.atheism

There is not one jot, nor tittle obsolete in the Torah.....

To call it "Old" is silly...and dangerous

I wonder how many Jewish men leave town for a day whenever they have
a wet dream or nocturnal emissions?

Is there any reason without a teple why they should?

I also wonder how many Jews support taking disobedient children
to the edge of town and stoning them to death...

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User: "The Real Riain"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	15 Feb 2005 07:17:10 PM

Too deep for you and your idiot "friends" that you are arguing with.
"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in message
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: That halachah is based on not setting yourself up for....incendiary
thought.
:
: It is deep.
:
:
: "Jan Pompe" <janp@!!dx.com.au> wrote in message
: news:11144afnis9etdb@news.supernews.com...
: > Elroy Willis wrote:
: >> "Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in alt.atheism
: >>
: >>
: >>>There is not one jot, nor tittle obsolete in the Torah.....
: >>
: >>
: >>>To call it "Old" is silly...and dangerous
: >>
: >>
: >> I wonder how many Jewish men leave town for a day whenever they
have
: >> a wet dream or nocturnal emissions?
: >
: > Is there any reason without a teple why they should?
: >>
: >> I also wonder how many Jews support taking disobedient children
: >> to the edge of town and stoning them to death...
: >>
: >
: > While the children are minors their parents are responsible for
their
: > behaviour children cannot therefore be held accountable after
attaining
: > their majority they are responsible for their own actions and cannot
be
: > held accountable to their parents commands. So how is the scenario
you
: > mention ever going to occur?
: >
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User: "Mary Hogan"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	15 Feb 2005 08:43:13 AM

I wonder how many Christians don't protest about "Will and Grace"
I wonder how many Christians have let the United States become so immoral
I wonder how many Christians allow their own children to leave the house
improperly dressed
I wonder how many Christians allow their children to live with the opposite
sex outside of marriage.
The Jew is more sophisticated Spiritually than you realize!!
"Elroy Willis" <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
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"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in alt.atheism

There is not one jot, nor tittle obsolete in the Torah.....

To call it "Old" is silly...and dangerous

I wonder how many Jewish men leave town for a day whenever they have
a wet dream or nocturnal emissions?

I also wonder how many Jews support taking disobedient children
to the edge of town and stoning them to death...

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www.elroysemporium.com

User: "Elroy Willis"
Title: Re: Did any of you actually sit through all ofThe Passion Of Christ?	15 Feb 2005 09:02:39 AM

"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in alt.atheism

"Elroy Willis" <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message

"Mary Hogan" <hoogy@zoominternet.net> wrote in alt.atheism

There is not one jot, nor tittle obsolete in the Torah.....
To call it "Old" is silly...and dangerous

I wonder how many Jewish men leave town for a day whenever they have
a wet dream or nocturnal emissions?
I also wonder how many Jews support taking disobedient children
to the edge of town and stoning them to death...

Since I'm not a Christian, your questions don't apply to me.

The Jew is more sophisticated Spiritually than you realize!!

If by that you mean mired in superstition, I would agree.
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Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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