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"david ford" |
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15 Nov 2004 12:59:19 PM |
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Re: PA school board mandates teaching ID |
catshark <catshark@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<4apfp0963eqljg43q139r58s8tk9bbdaag@4ax.com>...
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 (david ford) wrote:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/11/12/104124.shtml
Old news. What is really interesting is clicking through on the link at
the bottom in the "Editor's note":
Get David Limbaugh?s best seller "Persecution" about the war
on Christians
In his new book, Persecution, best-selling author (Absolute
Power) David Limbaugh makes a compelling case that liberals
across the country are waging an undeclared war on Christ-
ianity in our culture and in our government-especially our
schools. Limbaugh exposes the farce of liberal "tolerance"
and reveals the true agenda of liberals who misuse the law
to force Christianity out of the public square.
Can we say "persecution complex" boys and girls? Gooood . . .
Do you think that Christians in atheocratic China have a
[JP]"'persecution complex'"?
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| User: "Elmer Bataitis" |
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| Title: Re: PA school board mandates teaching ID |
15 Nov 2004 01:11:53 PM |
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"david ford" <> wrote in message
news:dford3-b1c67abe.0411151111.4bbfd0b5@posting.google.com...
catshark <catshark@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<4apfp0963eqljg43q139r58s8tk9bbdaag@4ax.com>...
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 (david ford) wrote:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/11/12/104124.shtml
Old news. What is really interesting is clicking through on the link at
the bottom in the "Editor's note":
Get David Limbaugh?s best seller "Persecution" about the war
on Christians
In his new book, Persecution, best-selling author (Absolute
Power) David Limbaugh makes a compelling case that liberals
across the country are waging an undeclared war on Christ-
ianity in our culture and in our government-especially our
schools. Limbaugh exposes the farce of liberal "tolerance"
and reveals the true agenda of liberals who misuse the law
to force Christianity out of the public square.
Can we say "persecution complex" boys and girls? Gooood . . .
Do you think that Christians in atheocratic China have a
[JP]"'persecution complex'"?
What does this have to do with the subject of *this* book Dave???
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| User: "david ford" |
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| Title: Re: PA school board mandates teaching ID |
15 Nov 2004 07:38:36 PM |
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"Elmer Bataitis" <nylicens@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<9n7md.4310$%P1.859@news01.roc.ny>...
"david ford" < > wrote in message news:dford3-b1c67abe.0411151111.4bbfd0b5@posting.google.com...
catshark <catshark@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<4apfp0963eqljg43q139r58s8tk9bbdaag@4ax.com>...
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 (david ford) wrote:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/11/12/104124.shtml
Old news. What is really interesting is clicking through on the link at
the bottom in the "Editor's note":
Get David Limbaugh?s best seller "Persecution" about the war
on Christians
In his new book, Persecution, best-selling author (Absolute
Power) David Limbaugh makes a compelling case that liberals
across the country are waging an undeclared war on Christ-
ianity in our culture and in our government-especially our
schools. Limbaugh exposes the farce of liberal "tolerance"
and reveals the true agenda of liberals who misuse the law
to force Christianity out of the public square.
Can we say "persecution complex" boys and girls? Gooood . . .
Do you think that Christians in atheocratic China have a
[JP]"'persecution complex'"?
What does this have to do with the subject of *this* book Dave???
Absolutely nothing. There could never ever be an atheocracy in the USA.
Do you think that Christians in atheocratic China have a
[JP]"'persecution complex'"?
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| User: "Cyde Weys" |
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16 Nov 2004 01:03:43 PM |
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(david ford) wrote in
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Absolutely nothing. There could never ever be an atheocracy in the
USA.
Last I checked our government was supposed to be "atheocratic" too. You
know, separation of church and state and all that.
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~ Cyde Weys ~
Bite my shiny metal *****.
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| User: "Elf M. Sternberg" |
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15 Nov 2004 02:06:11 PM |
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(david ford) writes:
Can we say "persecution complex" boys and girls? Gooood . . .
Do you think that Christians in atheocratic China have a
[JP]"'persecution complex'"?
Irrelevant. They're dying for their beliefs. Christians in
this country are currently in control. It is only the loyal opposition,
and a sense of decency that seems to grow weaker every day, that keeps
them from overrunning the country.
Elf
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| User: "" |
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15 Nov 2004 11:49:22 PM |
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On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 18:59:19 +0000 (UTC), (david
ford) wrote:
catshark <catshark@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<4apfp0963eqljg43q139r58s8tk9bbdaag@4ax.com>...
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 (david ford) wrote:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/11/12/104124.shtml
Old news. What is really interesting is clicking through on the link at
the bottom in the "Editor's note":
Get David Limbaugh?s best seller "Persecution" about the war
on Christians
In his new book, Persecution, best-selling author (Absolute
Power) David Limbaugh makes a compelling case that liberals
across the country are waging an undeclared war on Christ-
ianity in our culture and in our government-especially our
schools. Limbaugh exposes the farce of liberal "tolerance"
and reveals the true agenda of liberals who misuse the law
to force Christianity out of the public square.
Can we say "persecution complex" boys and girls? Gooood . . .
Do you think that Christians in atheocratic China have a
[JP]"'persecution complex'"?
Has *your* church been bombed lately? Have your fellow parishoners,
members of your fellowship or congregation been jailed, tortured or
driven from their homes? Have your books been burned, your house of
worship torched, your schools sacked and your teachers exciled? Is
that situation close at hand, and if so, where? Have your sacred texts
been mocked and excoriated by the government lately? You don't know
persecution, you wouldn't know persecution if it came up and kissed
your ear.
German Santanilla
PS The above events have happened, in my childhood, in Colombia, a
Catholic country; Protestants were the target. In Other countries, my
fellow Protestants treat the Catolicsin a like manner. In other
countries the government, the dominant religion, or the culture have
done likewise to many religions, or to atheists, freethinkers,
dissenters, what have you. I seldom write from deep, heartfelt rage,
and I have only once, to my memory addressed any of your simplistic
assertions or answered any of your attempts at Socratic q&a, since
there are many better qualified to put you in your place and spank you
like the nasty little creature you are, but now, Ford, do kindly *****
off and find a nice sun baked landscape with the appropriate rock and
crawl under it.
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| User: "" |
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16 Nov 2004 12:08:16 AM |
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On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 05:49:22 +0000 (UTC), wrote:
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 18:59:19 +0000 (UTC), (david
ford) wrote:
catshark <catshark@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<4apfp0963eqljg43q139r58s8tk9bbdaag@4ax.com>...
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 (david ford) wrote:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/11/12/104124.shtml
Old news. What is really interesting is clicking through on the link at
the bottom in the "Editor's note":
Get David Limbaugh?s best seller "Persecution" about the war
on Christians
In his new book, Persecution, best-selling author (Absolute
Power) David Limbaugh makes a compelling case that liberals
across the country are waging an undeclared war on Christ-
ianity in our culture and in our government-especially our
schools. Limbaugh exposes the farce of liberal "tolerance"
and reveals the true agenda of liberals who misuse the law
to force Christianity out of the public square.
Can we say "persecution complex" boys and girls? Gooood . . .
Do you think that Christians in atheocratic China have a
[JP]"'persecution complex'"?
Has *your* church been bombed lately? Have your fellow parishoners,
members of your fellowship or congregation been jailed, tortured or
driven from their homes? Have your books been burned, your house of
worship torched, your schools sacked and your teachers exciled? Is
that situation close at hand, and if so, where? Have your sacred texts
been mocked and excoriated by the government lately? You don't know
persecution, you wouldn't know persecution if it came up and kissed
your ear.
German Santanilla
PS The above events have happened, in my childhood, in Colombia, a
Catholic country; Protestants were the target. In Other countries, my
fellow Protestants treat the Catolicsin a like manner. In other
countries the government, the dominant religion, or the culture have
done likewise to many religions, or to atheists, freethinkers,
dissenters, what have you. I seldom write from deep, heartfelt rage,
and I have only once, to my memory addressed any of your simplistic
assertions or answered any of your attempts at Socratic q&a, since
there are many better qualified to put you in your place and spank you
like the nasty little creature you are, but now, Ford, do kindly *****
off and find a nice sun baked landscape with the appropriate rock and
crawl under it.
To the Australian posters: by the above description of a sunbaked
landscape, I do not mean to cast df into the outer darkness of your
lovely continent. I don't mean North Africa, the Namib, Takla Makan or
the Gobi, either. And certainly not Nevada. Or the Sonora Desert.
Maybe a nice theocratic desert willdo, in well, Saudi Arabia,
German
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| User: "John Wilkins" |
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16 Nov 2004 12:28:18 AM |
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<> wrote:
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 05:49:22 +0000 (UTC), wrote:
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 18:59:19 +0000 (UTC), (david
ford) wrote:
catshark <catshark@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<4apfp0963eqljg43q139r58s8tk9bbdaag@4ax.com>...
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 (david ford) wrote:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/11/12/104124.shtml
Old news. What is really interesting is clicking through on the link at
the bottom in the "Editor's note":
Get David Limbaugh?s best seller "Persecution" about the war
on Christians
In his new book, Persecution, best-selling author (Absolute
Power) David Limbaugh makes a compelling case that liberals
across the country are waging an undeclared war on Christ-
ianity in our culture and in our government-especially our
schools. Limbaugh exposes the farce of liberal "tolerance"
and reveals the true agenda of liberals who misuse the law
to force Christianity out of the public square.
Can we say "persecution complex" boys and girls? Gooood . . .
Do you think that Christians in atheocratic China have a
[JP]"'persecution complex'"?
Has *your* church been bombed lately? Have your fellow parishoners,
members of your fellowship or congregation been jailed, tortured or
driven from their homes? Have your books been burned, your house of
worship torched, your schools sacked and your teachers exciled? Is
that situation close at hand, and if so, where? Have your sacred texts
been mocked and excoriated by the government lately? You don't know
persecution, you wouldn't know persecution if it came up and kissed
your ear.
German Santanilla
PS The above events have happened, in my childhood, in Colombia, a
Catholic country; Protestants were the target. In Other countries, my
fellow Protestants treat the Catolicsin a like manner. In other
countries the government, the dominant religion, or the culture have
done likewise to many religions, or to atheists, freethinkers,
dissenters, what have you. I seldom write from deep, heartfelt rage,
and I have only once, to my memory addressed any of your simplistic
assertions or answered any of your attempts at Socratic q&a, since
there are many better qualified to put you in your place and spank you
like the nasty little creature you are, but now, Ford, do kindly *****
off and find a nice sun baked landscape with the appropriate rock and
crawl under it.
To the Australian posters: by the above description of a sunbaked
landscape, I do not mean to cast df into the outer darkness of your
lovely continent. I don't mean North Africa, the Namib, Takla Makan or
the Gobi, either. And certainly not Nevada. Or the Sonora Desert.
Maybe a nice theocratic desert willdo, in well, Saudi Arabia,
German
Hey, we don't mind. Dingoes gotta eat, after all...
--
John S. Wilkins
web: www.wilkins.id.au blog: evolvethought.blogspot.com
God cheats
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| User: "Harry K" |
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16 Nov 2004 09:04:49 AM |
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(John Wilkins) wrote in message news:<1gncud0.1claxea1jgs6cwN%>...
< > wrote:
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 05:49:22 +0000 (UTC), wrote:
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 18:59:19 +0000 (UTC), (david
ford) wrote:
catshark <catshark@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<4apfp0963eqljg43q139r58s8tk9bbdaag@4ax.com>...
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 (david ford) wrote:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/11/12/104124.shtml
Old news. What is really interesting is clicking through on the link at
the bottom in the "Editor's note":
Get David Limbaugh?s best seller "Persecution" about the war
on Christians
In his new book, Persecution, best-selling author (Absolute
Power) David Limbaugh makes a compelling case that liberals
across the country are waging an undeclared war on Christ-
ianity in our culture and in our government-especially our
schools. Limbaugh exposes the farce of liberal "tolerance"
and reveals the true agenda of liberals who misuse the law
to force Christianity out of the public square.
Can we say "persecution complex" boys and girls? Gooood . . .
Do you think that Christians in atheocratic China have a
[JP]"'persecution complex'"?
Has *your* church been bombed lately? Have your fellow parishoners,
members of your fellowship or congregation been jailed, tortured or
driven from their homes? Have your books been burned, your house of
worship torched, your schools sacked and your teachers exciled? Is
that situation close at hand, and if so, where? Have your sacred texts
been mocked and excoriated by the government lately? You don't know
persecution, you wouldn't know persecution if it came up and kissed
your ear.
German Santanilla
PS The above events have happened, in my childhood, in Colombia, a
Catholic country; Protestants were the target. In Other countries, my
fellow Protestants treat the Catolicsin a like manner. In other
countries the government, the dominant religion, or the culture have
done likewise to many religions, or to atheists, freethinkers,
dissenters, what have you. I seldom write from deep, heartfelt rage,
and I have only once, to my memory addressed any of your simplistic
assertions or answered any of your attempts at Socratic q&a, since
there are many better qualified to put you in your place and spank you
like the nasty little creature you are, but now, Ford, do kindly *****
off and find a nice sun baked landscape with the appropriate rock and
crawl under it.
To the Australian posters: by the above description of a sunbaked
landscape, I do not mean to cast df into the outer darkness of your
lovely continent. I don't mean North Africa, the Namib, Takla Makan or
the Gobi, either. And certainly not Nevada. Or the Sonora Desert.
Maybe a nice theocratic desert willdo, in well, Saudi Arabia,
German
Hey, we don't mind. Dingoes gotta eat, after all...
But I thought even digoes will turn up their noses at some things.
Harry K
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| User: "John Wilkins" |
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16 Nov 2004 01:20:33 PM |
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Harry K <turnkey4099@hotmail.com> wrote:
johnSPAM@wilkins.id.au (John Wilkins) wrote...
< > wrote:
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 05:49:22 +0000 (UTC), wrote:
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 18:59:19 +0000 (UTC), (david
ford) wrote:
catshark <catshark@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<4apfp0963eqljg43q139r58s8tk9bbdaag@4ax.com>...
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 (david ford) wrote:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/11/12/104124.shtml
Old news. What is really interesting is clicking through on the
link at the bottom in the "Editor's note":
Get David Limbaugh?s best seller "Persecution" about the war
on Christians
In his new book, Persecution, best-selling author (Absolute
Power) David Limbaugh makes a compelling case that liberals
across the country are waging an undeclared war on Christ-
ianity in our culture and in our government-especially our
schools. Limbaugh exposes the farce of liberal "tolerance"
and reveals the true agenda of liberals who misuse the law
to force Christianity out of the public square.
Can we say "persecution complex" boys and girls? Gooood . . .
Do you think that Christians in atheocratic China have a
[JP]"'persecution complex'"?
Has *your* church been bombed lately? Have your fellow parishoners,
members of your fellowship or congregation been jailed, tortured or
driven from their homes? Have your books been burned, your house of
worship torched, your schools sacked and your teachers exciled? Is
that situation close at hand, and if so, where? Have your sacred texts
been mocked and excoriated by the government lately? You don't know
persecution, you wouldn't know persecution if it came up and kissed
your ear.
German Santanilla
PS The above events have happened, in my childhood, in Colombia, a
Catholic country; Protestants were the target. In Other countries, my
fellow Protestants treat the Catolicsin a like manner. In other
countries the government, the dominant religion, or the culture have
done likewise to many religions, or to atheists, freethinkers,
dissenters, what have you. I seldom write from deep, heartfelt rage,
and I have only once, to my memory addressed any of your simplistic
assertions or answered any of your attempts at Socratic q&a, since
there are many better qualified to put you in your place and spank you
like the nasty little creature you are, but now, Ford, do kindly *****
off and find a nice sun baked landscape with the appropriate rock and
crawl under it.
To the Australian posters: by the above description of a sunbaked
landscape, I do not mean to cast df into the outer darkness of your
lovely continent. I don't mean North Africa, the Namib, Takla Makan or
the Gobi, either. And certainly not Nevada. Or the Sonora Desert.
Maybe a nice theocratic desert willdo, in well, Saudi Arabia,
German
Hey, we don't mind. Dingoes gotta eat, after all...
But I thought even digoes will turn up their noses at some things.
Protein is protein, no matter what it has been used for in the past...
--
John S. Wilkins
web: www.wilkins.id.au blog: evolvethought.blogspot.com
God cheats
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| User: "catshark" |
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15 Nov 2004 07:12:02 PM |
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On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 18:59:19 +0000 (UTC), (david ford)
wrote:
catshark <catshark@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<4apfp0963eqljg43q139r58s8tk9bbdaag@4ax.com>...
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 (david ford) wrote:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/11/12/104124.shtml
Old news. What is really interesting is clicking through on the link at
the bottom in the "Editor's note":
Get David Limbaugh?s best seller "Persecution" about the war
on Christians
In his new book, Persecution, best-selling author (Absolute
Power) David Limbaugh makes a compelling case that liberals
across the country are waging an undeclared war on Christ-
ianity in our culture and in our government-especially our
schools. Limbaugh exposes the farce of liberal "tolerance"
and reveals the true agenda of liberals who misuse the law
to force Christianity out of the public square.
Can we say "persecution complex" boys and girls? Gooood . . .
Do you think that Christians in atheocratic China have a
[JP]"'persecution complex'"?
So, David, when the book's blurb says "the country", we should take it as
saying that David Limbaugh was writing about China?
Funny, this from the Christian Post doesn't seem to think so:
"Persecution Complex" by Richard Mouw:
<http://www.christianpost.com/dbase/editorial/158/section/1.htm>
And, after the last election here, only monumental stupidity could impel
anyone to try to switch the subject from Christians claiming to be
persecuted in American to the situation they face in China.
--
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J. Pieret
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In the name of the bee
And of the butterfly
And of the breeze, amen
- Emily Dickinson -
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| User: "Tracy Hamilton" |
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16 Nov 2004 07:55:12 AM |
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"catshark" <catshark@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:dskip0t0idrj4jpbep203aaomj52joctph@4ax.com...
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 18:59:19 +0000 (UTC), (david ford)
wrote:
catshark <catshark@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<4apfp0963eqljg43q139r58s8tk9bbdaag@4ax.com>...
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 (david ford) wrote:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/11/12/104124.shtml
Old news. What is really interesting is clicking through on the link at
the bottom in the "Editor's note":
Get David Limbaugh?s best seller "Persecution" about the war
on Christians
In his new book, Persecution, best-selling author (Absolute
Power) David Limbaugh makes a compelling case that liberals
across the country are waging an undeclared war on Christ-
ianity in our culture and in our government-especially our
schools. Limbaugh exposes the farce of liberal "tolerance"
and reveals the true agenda of liberals who misuse the law
to force Christianity out of the public square.
Can we say "persecution complex" boys and girls? Gooood . . .
Do you think that Christians in atheocratic China have a
[JP]"'persecution complex'"?
So, David, when the book's blurb says "the country", we should take it as
saying that David Limbaugh was writing about China?
Funny, this from the Christian Post doesn't seem to think so:
"Persecution Complex" by Richard Mouw:
<http://www.christianpost.com/dbase/editorial/158/section/1.htm>
And, after the last election here, only monumental stupidity could impel
anyone to try to switch the subject from Christians claiming to be
persecuted in American to the situation they face in China.
David Ford is attempting the Victoria Monument of Stupidity.
Tracy P. Hamilton
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| User: "catshark" |
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16 Nov 2004 09:20:32 PM |
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On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 13:55:12 +0000 (UTC), "Tracy Hamilton"
<DontSpamhamilton@uab.edu> wrote:
[...]
And, after the last election here, only monumental stupidity could impel
anyone to try to switch the subject from Christians claiming to be
persecuted in American to the situation they face in China.
David Ford is attempting the Victoria Monument of Stupidity.
Shouldn't we have him sit on top of it when he's done?
<http://www.pervan.de/reiseberichte/bild.asp?bid=17896>
(What? Another one? . . . )
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J. Pieret
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Nunc Id Vides, Nunc Ne Vides
- Unseen University Motto -
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| User: "AC" |
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15 Nov 2004 10:50:31 PM |
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david ford wrote:
catshark <catshark@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<4apfp0963eqljg43q139r58s8tk9bbdaag@4ax.com>...
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 (david ford) wrote:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/11/12/104124.shtml
Old news. What is really interesting is clicking through on the link at
the bottom in the "Editor's note":
Get David Limbaugh?s best seller "Persecution" about the war
on Christians
In his new book, Persecution, best-selling author (Absolute
Power) David Limbaugh makes a compelling case that liberals
across the country are waging an undeclared war on Christ-
ianity in our culture and in our government-especially our
schools. Limbaugh exposes the farce of liberal "tolerance"
and reveals the true agenda of liberals who misuse the law
to force Christianity out of the public square.
Can we say "persecution complex" boys and girls? Gooood . . .
Do you think that Christians in atheocratic China have a
[JP]"'persecution complex'"?
Can you point to any place in the United States where Christians are
actively discriminated against? Isn't a secular society with government
firmly *out* of the religion business the best guarantee of religious
freedoms? In short, do you believe that theocracy is the only way to
protect religious rights?
--
Aaron Clausen
mightymartianca@hotmail.com
"My illness is due to my doctor's insistence that I drink milk, a
whitish fluid they force down helpless babies." - WC Fields
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