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"stoney" |
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01 Apr 2004 08:56:52 AM |
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Re: Practical definition |
On 29 Mar 2004 09:50:29 -0800, (Liam), Message ID:
<e8bd01f4.0403290950.5a97dd29@posting.google.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
So often the entire argument revolves around the definition of the
belief structure, and of course no one agrees on the definitions
either. Looking into each group's position on certain claims has lead
me to the determination that I must be agnostic, but I could be wrong
about myself. It certainly wouldn't be the first time. Let's look at
some specifics and see where exactly we fall.
(snip)
The problem has
always been settling on a definition.
Your thoughts?
I don't use the subsets (weak/strong) as, imo, they confuse the issue.
All an atheist is is a person who is not a theist. Christians, for
instance, are atheist with regard to all but one deity construct. An
atheist merely includes that one, as well.
I don't define myself via the facets I lack. If I were to I would
qualify as; aparachutist, asanta clausist, adownhill skiierist, and much
more.
Generally, gnosis, deals with knowledge. Agnostic then, generally is
'without knowledge' concerning 'concept.'
I've never had an answer to the question concerning the g--o-d letter
string;
Q: "What is there to *know?*
Usual event sequence is:
A: Wether there is a g-o-d or not?
Q: What is a g-o-d?
A: Silence.
Anyway, some people consider brand of and stance toward theism to be of
prime importance. I do not. I consider their 'prime importance' to be
of much less import than the brand of feed Santa Claus gives to his
flying reindeer. Translation: Such is a question to be expected from
young children. Many theists are young children in adult bodies.
Liam
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "Earle Jones" |
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| Title: Re: Practical definition |
01 Apr 2004 02:09:42 PM |
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In article <68ao60l3birjpbkkpmb526ntha48n91ll0@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On 29 Mar 2004 09:50:29 -0800, (Liam), Message ID:
<e8bd01f4.0403290950.5a97dd29@posting.google.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
So often the entire argument revolves around the definition of the
belief structure, and of course no one agrees on the definitions
either. Looking into each group's position on certain claims has lead
me to the determination that I must be agnostic, but I could be wrong
about myself. It certainly wouldn't be the first time. Let's look at
some specifics and see where exactly we fall.
(snip)
The problem has
always been settling on a definition.
Your thoughts?
I don't use the subsets (weak/strong) as, imo, they confuse the issue.
All an atheist is is a person who is not a theist. Christians, for
instance, are atheist with regard to all but one deity construct. An
atheist merely includes that one, as well.
I don't define myself via the facets I lack. If I were to I would
qualify as; aparachutist, asanta clausist, adownhill skiierist, and much
more.
Generally, gnosis, deals with knowledge. Agnostic then, generally is
'without knowledge' concerning 'concept.'
I've never had an answer to the question concerning the g--o-d letter
string;
Q: "What is there to *know?*
Usual event sequence is:
A: Wether there is a g-o-d or not?
Q: What is a g-o-d?
A: Silence.
*
"Man made God in his own image."
Marvin 3:16
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__/\_\
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\/_/\_\ earle
\/_/ jones
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Practical definition |
02 Apr 2004 12:10:29 PM |
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On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 20:09:42 GMT, Earle Jones <earle.jones@comcast.net>,
Message ID: <earle.jones-4F04BA.12094101042004@netnews.comcast.net>
wrote in alt.atheism;
In article <68ao60l3birjpbkkpmb526ntha48n91ll0@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On 29 Mar 2004 09:50:29 -0800, (Liam), Message ID:
<e8bd01f4.0403290950.5a97dd29@posting.google.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
So often the entire argument revolves around the definition of the
belief structure, and of course no one agrees on the definitions
either. Looking into each group's position on certain claims has lead
me to the determination that I must be agnostic, but I could be wrong
about myself. It certainly wouldn't be the first time. Let's look at
some specifics and see where exactly we fall.
(snip)
The problem has
always been settling on a definition.
Your thoughts?
I don't use the subsets (weak/strong) as, imo, they confuse the issue.
All an atheist is is a person who is not a theist. Christians, for
instance, are atheist with regard to all but one deity construct. An
atheist merely includes that one, as well.
I don't define myself via the facets I lack. If I were to I would
qualify as; aparachutist, asanta clausist, adownhill skiierist, and much
more.
Generally, gnosis, deals with knowledge. Agnostic then, generally is
'without knowledge' concerning 'concept.'
I've never had an answer to the question concerning the g--o-d letter
string;
Q: "What is there to *know?*
Usual event sequence is:
A: Wether there is a g-o-d or not?
Q: What is a g-o-d?
A: Silence.
*
"Man made God in his own image."
Marvin 3:16
cavet.... by committee.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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