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"Robibnikoff" |
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29 Jan 2005 12:09:14 PM |
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Re: Prayer for Douglas E. Berry |
LOL! Looks like Gasbag is getting lazy! :)
"Jason Gastrich" <usenetspam1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Please join me in prayer.
Dear Lord,
Save Doug's soul.
In Jesus' name, Amen.
Sincerely,
Jason Gastrich
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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29 Jan 2005 06:19:06 PM |
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
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LOL! Looks like Gasbag is getting lazy! :)
"Jason Gastrich" <usenetspam1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:AhGKd.152$BS.57@twister.socal.rr.com...
Please join me in prayer.
Dear Lord,
Save Doug's soul.
In Jesus' name, Amen.
Sincerely,
Jason Gastrich
Wow. From prayers to memos.
Can anyone detect a request in that "prayer"?
I can only see commands.
As well as Jason just assuming he can speak for his Jesus.
Smug arrogance and pride. (Shudder)
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Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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30 Jan 2005 04:40:17 AM |
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"Jason Gastrich" <usenetspam1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:AhGKd.152$BS.57@twister.socal.rr.com...
Please join me in prayer.
Dear Lord,
Save Doug's soul.
In Jesus' name, Amen.
Sincerely,
Jason Gastrich
That's IT? *That's* the weak-***** prayer to save my soul? That's
barely a sound bite!
Well, I was about ready to convert; but after this insult I'm staying
an atheist.
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Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "George Peatty" |
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30 Jan 2005 06:45:58 PM |
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 04:40:17 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Well, I was about ready to convert; but after this insult I'm staying
an atheist.
Dude, lying is a sin .. even for atheists ..
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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31 Jan 2005 06:21:57 AM |
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 13:45:58 -0500, George Peatty
<pttyg47-1230@copper.net> drained his beer, leaned back in the
alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the following
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 04:40:17 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Well, I was about ready to convert; but after this insult I'm staying
an atheist.
Dude, lying is a sin .. even for atheists ..
Since I don't recognize the concept of sin, no biggie.
And I think most people recognize humor when they see it.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "Jason Gastrich" |
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| Title: Re: Prayer for Douglas E. Berry |
31 Jan 2005 06:49:45 AM |
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Douglas Berry wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 13:45:58 -0500, George Peatty
<pttyg47-1230@copper.net> drained his beer, leaned back in the
alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the following
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 04:40:17 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Well, I was about ready to convert; but after this insult I'm
staying an atheist.
Dude, lying is a sin .. even for atheists ..
Since I don't recognize the concept of sin, no biggie.
And I think most people recognize humor when they see it.
I think you're right. (we're still looking, though)
JG
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free indeed."
Galatians 5:1 reads, "Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which
Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of
bondage."
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| User: "Bible Bob" |
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31 Jan 2005 07:48:15 AM |
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 06:21:57 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 13:45:58 -0500, George Peatty
<pttyg47-1230@copper.net> drained his beer, leaned back in the
alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the following
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 04:40:17 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Well, I was about ready to convert; but after this insult I'm staying
an atheist.
Dude, lying is a sin .. even for atheists ..
Since I don't recognize the concept of sin, no biggie.
And I think most people recognize humor when they see it.
Mr Berry,
May I ask a question?
When you were a child, did you go to church? If so which flavor and
until how old?
Why the question? I suspect that many atheists went to church when
they were young and that they may have been turned off by what they
saw and heard. If that is true, then I was wondering which
denominations produced the most atheists.
Thanks
BB
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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31 Jan 2005 02:41:26 PM |
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Bible Bob <biblebobnospam@biblebob.net> wrote in alt.atheism
Mr Berry,
May I ask a question?
When you were a child, did you go to church? If so which flavor and
until how old?
Why the question? I suspect that many atheists went to church when
they were young and that they may have been turned off by what they
saw and heard. If that is true, then I was wondering which
denominations produced the most atheists.
I went to a Lutheran church as a child, but ended up not believing
what I heard in church. Too many questions that had no answers,
and too many absurdities led me to quit going when I actually had
the choice.
--
Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
www.elroysemporium.com/news
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| User: "Bible Bob" |
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01 Feb 2005 02:55:14 AM |
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 14:41:26 GMT, Elroy Willis
<elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
Bible Bob <biblebobnospam@biblebob.net> wrote in alt.atheism
Mr Berry,
May I ask a question?
When you were a child, did you go to church? If so which flavor and
until how old?
Why the question? I suspect that many atheists went to church when
they were young and that they may have been turned off by what they
saw and heard. If that is true, then I was wondering which
denominations produced the most atheists.
I went to a Lutheran church as a child, but ended up not believing
what I heard in church. Too many questions that had no answers,
and too many absurdities led me to quit going when I actually had
the choice.
Elroy,
That is a sad thing because the church is supposed to be where we go
to get answers about life.
BB
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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01 Feb 2005 04:43:34 PM |
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Bible Bob <biblebobnospam@biblebob.net> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
Bible Bob <biblebobnospam@biblebob.net> wrote in alt.atheism
Mr Berry,
May I ask a question?
When you were a child, did you go to church? If so which flavor and
until how old?
Why the question? I suspect that many atheists went to church when
they were young and that they may have been turned off by what they
saw and heard. If that is true, then I was wondering which
denominations produced the most atheists.
I went to a Lutheran church as a child, but ended up not believing
what I heard in church. Too many questions that had no answers,
and too many absurdities led me to quit going when I actually had
the choice.
Elroy,
That is a sad thing because the church is supposed to be where we go
to get answers about life.
Oh well. That's not what happened to me, or what I experienced. It
was basically "quit asking questions and just believe what we tell
you," when it came to my attendance at church and what I was supposed
to believe. I chose to follow science and evolution and change, as
opposed to following some ancient dogmas or creeds which were meant to
support some church or priesthood which I personally think should be
done away with once and for all...
--
Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
www.elroysemporium.com/news
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| User: "Jos Flachs" |
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01 Feb 2005 11:29:17 AM |
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On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 02:55:14 GMT, Bible Bob
<biblebobnospam@biblebob.net> wrote:
That is a sad thing because the church is supposed to be where we go
to get answers about life.
I'm afraid the answers the stone age nomadic goatherds found aren't
quite up to date anymore.
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| User: "David D." |
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31 Jan 2005 08:02:18 AM |
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Bible Bob wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 06:21:57 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 13:45:58 -0500, George Peatty
<pttyg47-1230@copper.net> drained his beer, leaned back in the
alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the following
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 04:40:17 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Well, I was about ready to convert; but after this insult I'm
staying
an atheist.
Dude, lying is a sin .. even for atheists ..
Since I don't recognize the concept of sin, no biggie.
And I think most people recognize humor when they see it.
Mr Berry,
May I ask a question?
When you were a child, did you go to church? If so which flavor and
until how old?
Why the question? I suspect that many atheists went to church when
they were young and that they may have been turned off by what they
saw and heard. If that is true, then I was wondering which
denominations produced the most atheists.
Good question Bob. For me I grew up going to Church of England
services. I liked this church from a community perspective and I could
connect with the Christian morals. However, I don't think I really
connected with the spiritual. This, however, was not what turned me
off religion.
I had a friend who was born again and he took me to one of the services
at his nondenominational church in an old movie theatre
(http://www.findachurch.co.uk/churches/su/su85/kc21/). The service was
packed, well over a thousand, many more than I was used to. The energy
was high but then they all went into a trance, started speaking
tongues, and I swear it was like they were hypnotised. The tongues
sounded like gobbledygook to my ears and since then i have never been
to a church.
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| User: "Uncle Davey" |
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31 Jan 2005 07:59:33 PM |
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"David D." <daycd@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1107158538.026274.127250@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Bible Bob wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 06:21:57 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 13:45:58 -0500, George Peatty
<pttyg47-1230@copper.net> drained his beer, leaned back in the
alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the following
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 04:40:17 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Well, I was about ready to convert; but after this insult I'm
staying
an atheist.
Dude, lying is a sin .. even for atheists ..
Since I don't recognize the concept of sin, no biggie.
And I think most people recognize humor when they see it.
Mr Berry,
May I ask a question?
When you were a child, did you go to church? If so which flavor and
until how old?
Why the question? I suspect that many atheists went to church when
they were young and that they may have been turned off by what they
saw and heard. If that is true, then I was wondering which
denominations produced the most atheists.
Good question Bob. For me I grew up going to Church of England
services. I liked this church from a community perspective and I could
connect with the Christian morals. However, I don't think I really
connected with the spiritual. This, however, was not what turned me
off religion.
I had a friend who was born again and he took me to one of the services
at his nondenominational church in an old movie theatre
(http://www.findachurch.co.uk/churches/su/su85/kc21/). The service was
packed, well over a thousand, many more than I was used to. The energy
was high but then they all went into a trance, started speaking
tongues, and I swear it was like they were hypnotised. The tongues
sounded like gobbledygook to my ears and since then i have never been
to a church.
Pentecostalism again. Figures. They seem to have more casualties than all
the other denominations put together.
Uncle Davey
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| User: "Bible Bob" |
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01 Feb 2005 02:52:32 AM |
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 20:59:33 +0100, "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com>
wrote:
"David D." <daycd@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1107158538.026274.127250@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Bible Bob wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 06:21:57 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 13:45:58 -0500, George Peatty
<pttyg47-1230@copper.net> drained his beer, leaned back in the
alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the following
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 04:40:17 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Well, I was about ready to convert; but after this insult I'm
staying
an atheist.
Dude, lying is a sin .. even for atheists ..
Since I don't recognize the concept of sin, no biggie.
And I think most people recognize humor when they see it.
Mr Berry,
May I ask a question?
When you were a child, did you go to church? If so which flavor and
until how old?
Why the question? I suspect that many atheists went to church when
they were young and that they may have been turned off by what they
saw and heard. If that is true, then I was wondering which
denominations produced the most atheists.
Good question Bob. For me I grew up going to Church of England
services. I liked this church from a community perspective and I could
connect with the Christian morals. However, I don't think I really
connected with the spiritual. This, however, was not what turned me
off religion.
I had a friend who was born again and he took me to one of the services
at his nondenominational church in an old movie theatre
(http://www.findachurch.co.uk/churches/su/su85/kc21/). The service was
packed, well over a thousand, many more than I was used to. The energy
was high but then they all went into a trance, started speaking
tongues, and I swear it was like they were hypnotised. The tongues
sounded like gobbledygook to my ears and since then i have never been
to a church.
Pentecostalism again. Figures. They seem to have more casualties than all
the other denominations put together.
Uncle Davey
Uncle Davey,
David didn't say anything negative about the Church of England. I
have never attended one of their services nor read much about the
CofE, but know that it produced a lot of great Biblical Scholars.
Have you ever been to one of their churches? Was it inlfuenced by the
spiritual movement in the late eighteen hundreds? What is it like
today?
BB
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01 Feb 2005 08:48:10 PM |
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 20:59:33 +0100, "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com>
wrote:
"David D." <daycd@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1107158538.026274.127250@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Bible Bob wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 06:21:57 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 13:45:58 -0500, George Peatty
<pttyg47-1230@copper.net> drained his beer, leaned back in the
alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the following
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 04:40:17 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Well, I was about ready to convert; but after this insult I'm
staying
an atheist.
Dude, lying is a sin .. even for atheists ..
Since I don't recognize the concept of sin, no biggie.
And I think most people recognize humor when they see it.
Mr Berry,
May I ask a question?
When you were a child, did you go to church? If so which flavor and
until how old?
Why the question? I suspect that many atheists went to church when
they were young and that they may have been turned off by what they
saw and heard. If that is true, then I was wondering which
denominations produced the most atheists.
Good question Bob. For me I grew up going to Church of England
services. I liked this church from a community perspective and I could
connect with the Christian morals. However, I don't think I really
connected with the spiritual. This, however, was not what turned me
off religion.
I had a friend who was born again and he took me to one of the services
at his nondenominational church in an old movie theatre
(http://www.findachurch.co.uk/churches/su/su85/kc21/). The service was
packed, well over a thousand, many more than I was used to. The energy
was high but then they all went into a trance, started speaking
tongues, and I swear it was like they were hypnotised. The tongues
sounded like gobbledygook to my ears and since then i have never been
to a church.
Pentecostalism again. Figures. They seem to have more casualties than all
the other denominations put together.
I've known two Baptist ministers, and currently know a Jehovah's
Witness who are agnostic and one Methodist minister who was an
atheist.
Their explanations for why they continue in their religions make sense
though I strongly disagree with one of them and somewhat disagree with
the others.
atheist@home#1554
Uncle Davey
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01 Feb 2005 09:24:20 PM |
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<atheist@home.com> wrote in message
news:k0rvv0t68cgb2aj5gvvq2js6q7juqj8i9k@4ax.com...
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 20:59:33 +0100, "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com>
wrote:
"David D." <daycd@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1107158538.026274.127250@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Bible Bob wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 06:21:57 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 13:45:58 -0500, George Peatty
<pttyg47-1230@copper.net> drained his beer, leaned back in the
alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the following
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 04:40:17 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Well, I was about ready to convert; but after this insult I'm
staying
an atheist.
Dude, lying is a sin .. even for atheists ..
Since I don't recognize the concept of sin, no biggie.
And I think most people recognize humor when they see it.
Mr Berry,
May I ask a question?
When you were a child, did you go to church? If so which flavor and
until how old?
Why the question? I suspect that many atheists went to church when
they were young and that they may have been turned off by what they
saw and heard. If that is true, then I was wondering which
denominations produced the most atheists.
Good question Bob. For me I grew up going to Church of England
services. I liked this church from a community perspective and I could
connect with the Christian morals. However, I don't think I really
connected with the spiritual. This, however, was not what turned me
off religion.
I had a friend who was born again and he took me to one of the services
at his nondenominational church in an old movie theatre
(http://www.findachurch.co.uk/churches/su/su85/kc21/). The service was
packed, well over a thousand, many more than I was used to. The energy
was high but then they all went into a trance, started speaking
tongues, and I swear it was like they were hypnotised. The tongues
sounded like gobbledygook to my ears and since then i have never been
to a church.
Pentecostalism again. Figures. They seem to have more casualties than all
the other denominations put together.
I've known two Baptist ministers, and currently know a Jehovah's
Witness who are agnostic and one Methodist minister who was an
atheist.
Their explanations for why they continue in their religions make sense
though I strongly disagree with one of them and somewhat disagree with
the others.
atheist@home#1554
If someone is doing a ministry without believing it, than that person is a
hypocrite, and only damages the cause they pretend to promote.
Uncle Davey
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02 Feb 2005 06:50:26 AM |
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On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 22:24:20 +0100, "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com>
wrote:
<atheist@home.com> wrote in message
<snip>
I've known two Baptist ministers, and currently know a Jehovah's
Witness who are agnostic and one Methodist minister who was an
atheist.
Their explanations for why they continue in their religions make sense
though I strongly disagree with one of them and somewhat disagree with
the others.
atheist@home#1554
If someone is doing a ministry without believing it, than that person is a
hypocrite, and only damages the cause they pretend to promote.
Really?
What exactly do you think they believe their ministries to be?
And just which cause do you think they are promoting?
Sometimes the decent lie is the only thing some people have left.
I can live with that and it doesn't bother me a bit.
atheist@home#1554
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| User: "Uncle Davey" |
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02 Feb 2005 01:10:23 PM |
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Uzytkownik <atheist@home.com> napisal w wiadomosci
news:tqt00192pphdrdl7fklgqp77eddt3icgcu@4ax.com...
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 22:24:20 +0100, "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com>
wrote:
<atheist@home.com> wrote in message
<snip>
I've known two Baptist ministers, and currently know a Jehovah's
Witness who are agnostic and one Methodist minister who was an
atheist.
Their explanations for why they continue in their religions make sense
though I strongly disagree with one of them and somewhat disagree with
the others.
atheist@home#1554
If someone is doing a ministry without believing it, than that person is
a
hypocrite, and only damages the cause they pretend to promote.
Really?
What exactly do you think they believe their ministries to be?
And just which cause do you think they are promoting?
Sometimes the decent lie is the only thing some people have left.
I can live with that and it doesn't bother me a bit.
They should be promoting the causes enshrined in the trust deeds of the
organisation(s) that are paying their salary.
If they are doing their best to do that, but have their private doubts, then
that is one thing, if they are knowingly subverting the organisation(s) and
are following their own agenda while being in the pay of the
organisation(s), then that is quite another.
In the case of the first, you may be right. In the case of the second,
rather not.
That's how I see it, anyway.
Uncle Davey
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02 Feb 2005 10:00:57 PM |
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On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 14:10:23 +0100, "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com>
wrote:
Uzytkownik <atheist@home.com> napisal w wiadomosci
news:tqt00192pphdrdl7fklgqp77eddt3icgcu@4ax.com...
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 22:24:20 +0100, "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com>
wrote:
<atheist@home.com> wrote in message
<snip>
I've known two Baptist ministers, and currently know a Jehovah's
Witness who are agnostic and one Methodist minister who was an
atheist.
Their explanations for why they continue in their religions make sense
though I strongly disagree with one of them and somewhat disagree with
the others.
atheist@home#1554
If someone is doing a ministry without believing it, than that person is
a
hypocrite, and only damages the cause they pretend to promote.
Really?
What exactly do you think they believe their ministries to be?
And just which cause do you think they are promoting?
Sometimes the decent lie is the only thing some people have left.
I can live with that and it doesn't bother me a bit.
They should be promoting the causes enshrined in the trust deeds of the
organisation(s) that are paying their salary.
I agree.
If they are doing their best to do that, but have their private doubts, then
that is one thing, if they are knowingly subverting the organisation(s) and
are following their own agenda while being in the pay of the
organisation(s), then that is quite another.
Agree again.
In the case of the first, you may be right. In the case of the second,
rather not.
That's how I see it, anyway.
They actually do what they are supposed to do.
On the one hand it's sort of baffling to me but on the other I can
understand in a sense.
They feel they are doing good.
I once gave my brother-in-law a Bible and told him he should read it.
I suggested certain books that I felt might help him.
He was on a downhill slide and nothing else worked.
Funny thing is he knows I'm an atheist and I suppose it was sort of
confusing to him.
But he is a Christian now, doesn't beat anybody over the head with it
and his life is far better than it was.
So much for us evil atheists eh? ;-)
atheist@home#1554
Uncle Davey
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| User: "Glenn \Christian Mystic" |
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28 Oct 2005 12:52:31 AM |
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No, it tells me something about you, which I have suspected about most
'atheists' ! 'specially the ones I have seen with their lips silently moving
during some crises
read, please, 1 Tim.2:3-4 He will get all of us in the end :-)
<atheist@home.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 14:10:23 +0100, "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com>
wrote:
Uzytkownik <atheist@home.com> napisal w wiadomosci
news:tqt00192pphdrdl7fklgqp77eddt3icgcu@4ax.com...
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 22:24:20 +0100, "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com>
wrote:
<atheist@home.com> wrote in message
<snip>
I've known two Baptist ministers, and currently know a Jehovah's
Witness who are agnostic and one Methodist minister who was an
atheist.
Their explanations for why they continue in their religions make
sense
though I strongly disagree with one of them and somewhat disagree
with
the others.
atheist@home#1554
If someone is doing a ministry without believing it, than that person
is
a
hypocrite, and only damages the cause they pretend to promote.
Really?
What exactly do you think they believe their ministries to be?
And just which cause do you think they are promoting?
Sometimes the decent lie is the only thing some people have left.
I can live with that and it doesn't bother me a bit.
They should be promoting the causes enshrined in the trust deeds of the
organisation(s) that are paying their salary.
I agree.
If they are doing their best to do that, but have their private doubts,
then
that is one thing, if they are knowingly subverting the organisation(s)
and
are following their own agenda while being in the pay of the
organisation(s), then that is quite another.
Agree again.
In the case of the first, you may be right. In the case of the second,
rather not.
That's how I see it, anyway.
They actually do what they are supposed to do.
On the one hand it's sort of baffling to me but on the other I can
understand in a sense.
They feel they are doing good.
I once gave my brother-in-law a Bible and told him he should read it.
I suggested certain books that I felt might help him.
He was on a downhill slide and nothing else worked.
Funny thing is he knows I'm an atheist and I suppose it was sort of
confusing to him.
But he is a Christian now, doesn't beat anybody over the head with it
and his life is far better than it was.
So much for us evil atheists eh? ;-)
atheist@home#1554
Uncle Davey
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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28 Oct 2005 09:16:46 AM |
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"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:11m2svu5hg5i94e@corp.supernews.com...
No, it tells me something about you, which I have suspected about most
'atheists' ! 'specially the ones I have seen with their lips silently
moving during some crises
Uh huh - So, please tell us about all the atheists you've seen with their
lips moving silently during some crises. Don't forget to name names and
provide evidence they were all atheists.
read, please, 1 Tim.2:3-4 He will get all of us in the end :-)
Why bother? It's not like an atheist takes the bible seriously.
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Resident Witchypoo
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Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
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| User: "Siobhan Burke" |
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29 Oct 2005 11:31:51 AM |
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In article <3se8jrFo1o04U1@individual.net>,
witchypoo@broomstick.com says...
"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:11m2svu5hg5i94e@corp.supernews.com...
No, it tells me something about you, which I have suspected about most
'atheists' ! 'specially the ones I have seen with their lips silently
moving during some crises
Uh huh - So, please tell us about all the atheists you've seen with their
lips moving silently during some crises. Don't forget to name names and
provide evidence they were all atheists.
Well, my lips move silently during a crisis, but a lip-reader
would see "Oh *****, oh *****, ohshitohshitohshit!" And sometimes
not all that silently. My husband prefers "Oh *****! Oh *****
***** fuckity *****!" but that probably doesn't count because it's
not at all silently.
--
Siobhan - a.a. #2201
siobhan.burke@CARRIERatt.net
Drop CARRIER to email
"But as a general rule, when things look bad there's always some
***** who can make them worse." -- Terry Pratchett
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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29 Oct 2005 12:42:45 PM |
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"Siobhan Burke" <siobhan.burke@CARRIERatt.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.1dcd259de410b39e9898d5@netnews.worldnet.att.net...
In article <3se8jrFo1o04U1@individual.net>,
witchypoo@broomstick.com says...
"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:11m2svu5hg5i94e@corp.supernews.com...
No, it tells me something about you, which I have suspected about most
'atheists' ! 'specially the ones I have seen with their lips silently
moving during some crises
Uh huh - So, please tell us about all the atheists you've seen with their
lips moving silently during some crises. Don't forget to name names and
provide evidence they were all atheists.
Well, my lips move silently during a crisis, but a lip-reader
would see "Oh *****, oh *****, ohshitohshitohshit!" And sometimes
not all that silently. My husband prefers "Oh *****! Oh *****
***** fuckity *****!" but that probably doesn't count because it's
not at all silently.
LOL! Exactly. The fact that Glenn thinks atheists were praying is
hilarious. Not to mention, that he's lying because I highly doubt he was
ever around a large group of atheists in the middle of a "crisis".
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
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| User: "Carl Kaufmann" |
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29 Oct 2005 03:48:30 PM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
"Siobhan Burke" <siobhan.burke@CARRIERatt.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.1dcd259de410b39e9898d5@netnews.worldnet.att.net...
In article <3se8jrFo1o04U1@individual.net>,
witchypoo@broomstick.com says...
"Glenn (Christian Mystic)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:11m2svu5hg5i94e@corp.supernews.com...
No, it tells me something about you, which I have suspected about most
'atheists' ! 'specially the ones I have seen with their lips silently
moving during some crises
Uh huh - So, please tell us about all the atheists you've seen with their
lips moving silently during some crises. Don't forget to name names and
provide evidence they were all atheists.
Well, my lips move silently during a crisis, but a lip-reader
would see "Oh *****, oh *****, ohshitohshitohshit!" And sometimes
not all that silently. My husband prefers "Oh *****! Oh *****
***** fuckity *****!" but that probably doesn't count because it's
not at all silently.
LOL! Exactly. The fact that Glenn thinks atheists were praying is
hilarious. Not to mention, that he's lying because I highly doubt he was
ever around a large group of atheists in the middle of a "crisis".
Besides which atheists, due to their rationality, have
inconveniences, not crises.
Carl
a.a. #1966
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| User: "Dubh Ghall" |
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| Title: Re: Prayer for Douglas E. Berry |
30 Oct 2005 02:32:54 PM |
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On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 11:48:30 -0400, Carl Kaufmann <ckaufmann@cox.net> wrote:
Besides which atheists, due to their rationality, have
inconveniences, not crises.
Carl
a.a. #1966
Oh Yea?
Have you ever ran out of vodka, at 2 am, on the one night of the week the 24
hour store, is shut?
That, my son, is a CRISES.
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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28 Oct 2005 12:53:32 AM |
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"Glenn \(Christian Mystic\)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in
news:11m2svu5hg5i94e@corp.supernews.com:
Subject: Re: Prayer for Douglas E. Berry
Pray for me, too, or I'll be offended at being excluded.
You don't want to offend me.
I get...sarcastic.
You don't want me to get SARCASTIC do you?
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Doc Smartass XP - New Interface, Same Old *****
Brought to you by...
The Catholic Church. No, we don't like gays.
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| User: "Liz" |
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28 Oct 2005 01:51:38 AM |
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On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 00:53:32 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> in news message
<Xns96FCCABB2294Faskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18> wrote:
"Glenn \(Christian Mystic\)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in
news:11m2svu5hg5i94e@corp.supernews.com:
Subject: Re: Prayer for Douglas E. Berry
Pray for me, too, or I'll be offended at being excluded.
You don't want to offend me.
I get...sarcastic.
You don't want me to get SARCASTIC do you?
Doc? Sarcastic? Say it ain't so.
Überwench #658 Now a *real* atheist!
Dame Liz the Undaunted Ath.D BAAWA
Charter Member of SMASH
and Queen of the known universe
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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29 Oct 2005 01:32:04 AM |
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Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote in
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On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 00:53:32 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> in news message
<Xns96FCCABB2294Faskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18> wrote:
"Glenn \(Christian Mystic\)" <christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote in
news:11m2svu5hg5i94e@corp.supernews.com:
Subject: Re: Prayer for Douglas E. Berry
Pray for me, too, or I'll be offended at being excluded.
You don't want to offend me.
I get...sarcastic.
You don't want me to get SARCASTIC do you?
Doc? Sarcastic? Say it ain't so.
Come, now. You know what a calm, level-headed gentleman I am. I would
NEVER be sarcastic without provocation.
I note that he has not prayed for me, though. I begin to feel provoked!
--
Doc Smartass XP - New Interface, Same Old *****
Brought to you by...
The Catholic Church. No, we don't like gays.
But if you're a pedo, you're PRIEST material!!
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| User: "Kate " |
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28 Oct 2005 02:32:03 PM |
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On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 19:52:31 -0500, "Glenn \(Christian Mystic\)"
<christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote:
No, it tells me something about you, which I have suspected about most
'atheists' ! 'specially the ones I have seen with their lips silently moving
during some crises
That means they are swearing like crazy.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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28 Oct 2005 02:57:46 PM |
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"Kate " <cobalt@newscene.com> wrote in message
news:436535f5.290657234@news-west.newscene.com...
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 19:52:31 -0500, "Glenn \(Christian Mystic\)"
<christianmystic@ev1.net> wrote:
No, it tells me something about you, which I have suspected about most
'atheists' ! 'specially the ones I have seen with their lips silently
moving
during some crises
That means they are swearing like crazy.
No doubt. I barely avoided a car crash this morning with a stupid broad in
a huge white Mercedes. I can assure you that I was NOT muttering "Thank
you, Jeebus" as I slammed on my horn and swerved around the front of her
car.
Neither was my hand gesture informing her she was "Number 1" ;)
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: Prayer for Douglas E. Berry |
28 Oct 2005 02:30:49 AM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and "Glenn \(Christian Mystic\)"
<christianmystic@ev1.net> posting the following on Thu, 27 Oct 2005
19:52:31 -0500 iin alt.atheism?
<atheist@home.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 14:10:23 +0100, "Uncle Davey" <noway@jose.com>
wrote:
No, it tells me something about you, which I have suspected about most
'atheists' ! 'specially the ones I have seen with their lips silently moving
during some crises
read, please, 1 Tim.2:3-4 He will get all of us in the end :-)
Um you're replying to something close to a year old here.
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Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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