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User: "Carole"
Date: 15 Jul 2006 06:23:23 AM
Object: Re: Preparing People for Power
"dd" <dd@d.com> wrote in message news:44b75d0a$2@news.starhub.net.sg...

THE PEOPLE WHO are going to be powerful need to be prepared.

Right now, up to now, for thousands of years you have never prepared
anybody. If somebody is going to be a boxer you don't just push him into

the

ring and say: "Start!" He has to learn. If somebody is going to be a
swordsman, it will take him years. Otherwise he won't even know how to

hold

the sword -- using it and fighting with it will be impossible. First he

will

have to find out how to take it out from its sheath, how to hold it. It
needs training. You don't just give a guitar to somebody who has never

seen

the instrument before and expect him to be an Amadeus Mozart or a Ravi
Shankar.

Now this is your fault.

These people who are in power, have you trained them? Has anybody

ever

thought that the people who will be holding so much power need certain
qualities so that they don't misuse power? It is not their fault.

So I propose two institutes in every university. One institute is

for

deprogramming. Anybody who gets a graduation certificate will first have

to

get a clearance certificate from the deprogramming institute -- which

means

it has deprogrammed you as a Christian, as a Hindu, as a German, as an
American, as a communist, as a Mohammedan, as a Jew, or whatever

trademarks

you had. It has taken out all the rubbish, because this has been our
trouble.

And when you have believed a certain thing for fifty or sixty years,
and I suddenly say that it is nonsense, you will get upset, you will

resist,

because that means for sixty years you have been a stupid guy. But if you
have guts and intelligence, there is still time to get out of the rut.

My religiousness is nothing but the science of deprogramming.

Yes, this is very true. We are all programmed from birth and it is nothing
to be ashamed of to admit that we have been sucked in and gone along with
ideas that turn out to be nothing more than hype and emotionalism.
I think a course of deprogramming would be wonderful --I'd take it and it
should be a mandatory subject for all people who hold any positions in the
public interest. All the ***** and crap that people are enticed into
believing -- propaganda is rife in our society since the takeover the the
free press ( see Operation Mockingbird, the subversion of the free press )
in the 1950s. And its not just what erroneous ideas people are taught, its
what they AREN'T taught that is important too -- ideas of sovereignty of
themselves, and their country. All is directed towards making people into
numbers in the system and part of a global empire.
Carole
http://www.conspiracee.com


And remember, don't get mixed up with the "deprogramming" that

exists

in California -- they are re-programmers! Someone was escaping from
Christianity; they bring him back to Christianity -- and you call it
deprogramming?

Deprogramming means you are simply left without a program, without
religion, race, caste, nationality...you are left alone to be yourself --

to

be an individual.

And four years is enough time. Deprogramming does not take that much
time; just a few hours a month for four years and you will be

deprogrammed.

And you will not get any certificate from the educational institute unless
you are cleared by the deprogramming institute that: "This man doesn't

carry

any label anymore; he is now simply a human being."

The second institute will be an institute for meditation, because

just

deprogramming is not enough. Deprogramming takes rubbish from you -- and

it

is difficult to be empty; you will start gathering rubbish again. You

cannot

manage by yourself to learn how to live joyfully with your emptiness, but
that is the whole art of meditation.

So this institute will give you a simple meditation. There is no

need

for any complexity; universities, the intelligentsia, tend to make things
complex. A simple method of just watching your breath is enough, but every
day for one hour you have to go to the institute.

You just sit silently and witness your mind-process, while keeping
your attention on the breath.

Nothing needs to be done. Just be a witness, an observer, a watcher,
looking at the traffic of the mind -- thoughts passing by, desires,
memories, dreams, fantasies. Simply stand aloof, cool, with no

condemnation,

no evaluations. Once you get the knack of it, it is the most simple thing

in

the world.

About meditation -- a few essential things to be remembered: The

first

is a relaxed state -- no fight, no control, no concentration. The second

is

watchfulness -- witness whatever is going on inside of you. And the third
is, don't have any judgment or evaluation about it. Just be a watcher.

The body changes, the mind changes, the emotions change -- only the
witness remains the same.

As you practice witnessing, you will notice that the clouds of
thoughts and emotions will slowly slowly start to disperse and the vast

blue

sky of your inner being will appear -- you will have a taste of going
beyond the body-mind-heart complex. Once you have experienced this state

you

have tasted meditation; and meditation is peace, meditation is joy --
meditation is fulfillment.

So on the one hand the deprogramming institute cleanses you, empties
you, makes you a vacuum; and on the other hand the meditation institute

goes

on helping you to enjoy your nothingness, your emptiness, your inner
vacuum -- its cleanliness, its freshness. And as you start enjoying it,

you

start feeling that it is not empty at all, it is full of joy. It looked
empty at first because you were accustomed to having so much rubbish in

it,

and that rubbish has been removed so you say it looks empty.

It is just like a room full of furniture: you have always seen it

full

of furniture; then one day you come and all the furniture is removed and

you

say: "The room looks empty." The room is not empty, the room is simply
clean. The room is roomy for the first time. It was cluttered before,
burdened, full of rubbish; now it is pure space.

You have to learn meditation to enjoy your emptiness.

And that is one of the greatest days in life -- when a person starts
enjoying emptiness, aloneness, nothingness, because then you will be able

to

live your whole life meditatively.

And by living meditatively I mean to be loving, to be alert, to be a
witness. Whatever you are doing, do it with joy and totality -- do it as

if

this is the greatest thing in the world in this moment. When you do

anything

with such intensity, with such love, with such respect, you will be
transformed by it.

Unless something transforms you, it is not meditation.

But all the religions have been doing prayers in the name of
meditation, prayers which are nothing but complaints and desires. They

will

not take you to your innermost being or into some higher state of
consciousness -- you will remain the same person.

And in the name of meditation there are hundreds of so-called

teachers

who go on exploiting people. Their teachings are of disciplining the mind

by

practicing concentration. But concentration is a mind phenomenon, it makes
the mind even stronger -- and meditation, in short, is nothing but

creating

a gap between you and your mind.

For example, Transcendental Meditation has become representative of
all so-called meditations: you concentrate on some word, a holy word, and
you repeat it as fast as you can -- without gaps in between. This creates

a

deliberate kind of sleep and gives you relaxation from thinking. It is an
enjoyable exercise and coming out of it you will feel refreshed. I am not
against it -- but please don't call it meditation and don't call it
transcendental; those are wrong words for it. It is hypnotic

auto-suggestion

and nothing more.

Meditation will make you a new being, a new man, a new consciousness
which knows no fear, no seriousness, no greed, no hate -- nothing of those
dark emotions and sentiments which are ugly, sick, nauseating; meditation
knows only that which uplifts you, which goes on uplifting you.

Then nobody can reprogram you, nobody in the whole world.

Unless the meditation institute gives you its degree, the university
is not going to give you a degree.

The university's degree will come only when a clearance certificate
from the deprogramming institute and a graduation certificate from the
meditation university have been granted. It will depend on you -- you can
graduate in one year, you can graduate in two years, you can graduate in
three years, four years. But four years is too much. Any imbecile, if he
just sits for one hour every day, doing nothing, for four years, is bound

to

find what Buddha or Lao Tzu have found, what I have found.

It is not a question of intelligence, talent, genius. It is only a
question of patience.

So from the university meditation institute you get a degree, a
bachelor of meditation; then you get a bachelor of arts or commerce or
science, not before it. And in the same way it continues. You get a

master's

degree in meditation, M.M., and again you will be required to continue

with

the deprogramming institute for two years, because you can't be left alone
so easily.

These processes go on simultaneously -- deprogramming and

meditation.

One institute goes on cleaning you, emptying you; the other goes on

filling

you -- not with some thing, but with some quality: blissfulness,

lovingness,

compassion, a tremendous feeling of worth for no reason at all. Just that
you are living, breathing, is enough proof that existence thinks you

worthy

of living, that existence thinks you worthy of being here.

You are indispensable to existence.

So if a person continues to study in the university, then he

continues

to go to the meditation institute for one hour every day, and before he

gets

his M.A., he gets his M.M. -- that is, master of meditation. These are
clearance certificates for your M.A. degree. And I want this to continue.

If

you are going to do your Ph.D. then you do four years of deprogramming and
four years of meditation. Those are compulsory to the very end, so when

you

come out of the university you are not only an intelligent person,
well-informed, you are also a meditator -- relaxed, joyful, silent,
peaceful, observant, watchful, intuitive. And you are no longer a

Christian,

no longer a Hindu, no longer an American, no longer a Russian. All that

has

been completely burned; nothing is left of it.

This is the only way: to replace the politicians by the
intelligentsia.

But as the intelligentsia is now, it won't be of much help, because
they are still in the grip of power politics.

That's why I make these two conditions. If you get a Ph.D.,
simultaneously you will be getting a doctor's degree in meditation. So

while

you are being educated you are in a very silent and subtle way being
prepared to be in power, in such a way that power cannot corrupt you, that
you cannot misuse it.




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User: "wbarwell"

Title: Re: Preparing People for Power 15 Jul 2006 11:00:49 AM
Carole wrote:


"dd" <dd@d.com> wrote in message news:44b75d0a$2@news.starhub.net.sg...

THE PEOPLE WHO are going to be powerful need to be prepared.

Right now, up to now, for thousands of years you have never
prepared
anybody. If somebody is going to be a boxer you don't just push him into

the

ring and say: "Start!" He has to learn. If somebody is going to be a
swordsman, it will take him years. Otherwise he won't even know how to

hold

the sword -- using it and fighting with it will be impossible. First he

will

have to find out how to take it out from its sheath, how to hold it. It
needs training. You don't just give a guitar to somebody who has never

seen

the instrument before and expect him to be an Amadeus Mozart or a Ravi
Shankar.

Now this is your fault.

These people who are in power, have you trained them? Has anybody

ever

thought that the people who will be holding so much power need certain
qualities so that they don't misuse power? It is not their fault.

So I propose two institutes in every university. One institute is

for

deprogramming. Anybody who gets a graduation certificate will first have

to

get a clearance certificate from the deprogramming institute -- which

means

it has deprogrammed you as a Christian, as a Hindu, as a German, as an
American, as a communist, as a Mohammedan, as a Jew, or whatever

trademarks

you had. It has taken out all the rubbish, because this has been our
trouble.

And when you have believed a certain thing for fifty or sixty
years,
and I suddenly say that it is nonsense, you will get upset, you will

resist,

because that means for sixty years you have been a stupid guy. But if you
have guts and intelligence, there is still time to get out of the rut.

My religiousness is nothing but the science of deprogramming.


Yes, this is very true. We are all programmed from birth and it is nothing
to be ashamed of to admit that we have been sucked in and gone along with
ideas that turn out to be nothing more than hype and emotionalism.

I think a course of deprogramming would be wonderful --I'd take it and it
should be a mandatory subject for all people who hold any positions in the
public interest. All the ***** and crap that people are enticed into
believing -- propaganda is rife in our society since the takeover the the
free press ( see Operation Mockingbird, the subversion of the free press )
in the 1950s. And its not just what erroneous ideas people are taught, its
what they AREN'T taught that is important too -- ideas of sovereignty of
themselves, and their country. All is directed towards making people into
numbers in the system and part of a global empire.

Carole
http://www.conspiracee.com



And remember, don't get mixed up with the "deprogramming" that

exists

in California -- they are re-programmers! Someone was escaping from
Christianity; they bring him back to Christianity -- and you call it
deprogramming?

Deprogramming means you are simply left without a program, without
religion, race, caste, nationality...you are left alone to be yourself --

to

be an individual.

And four years is enough time. Deprogramming does not take that
much
time; just a few hours a month for four years and you will be

deprogrammed.

And you will not get any certificate from the educational institute
unless you are cleared by the deprogramming institute that: "This man
doesn't

carry

any label anymore; he is now simply a human being."

The second institute will be an institute for meditation, because

just

deprogramming is not enough. Deprogramming takes rubbish from you -- and

it

is difficult to be empty; you will start gathering rubbish again. You

cannot

manage by yourself to learn how to live joyfully with your emptiness, but
that is the whole art of meditation.

So this institute will give you a simple meditation. There is no

need

for any complexity; universities, the intelligentsia, tend to make things
complex. A simple method of just watching your breath is enough, but
every day for one hour you have to go to the institute.

You just sit silently and witness your mind-process, while keeping
your attention on the breath.

Nothing needs to be done. Just be a witness, an observer, a
watcher,
looking at the traffic of the mind -- thoughts passing by, desires,
memories, dreams, fantasies. Simply stand aloof, cool, with no

condemnation,

no evaluations. Once you get the knack of it, it is the most simple thing

in

the world.

About meditation -- a few essential things to be remembered: The

first

is a relaxed state -- no fight, no control, no concentration. The second

is

watchfulness -- witness whatever is going on inside of you. And the third
is, don't have any judgment or evaluation about it. Just be a watcher.

The body changes, the mind changes, the emotions change -- only the
witness remains the same.

As you practice witnessing, you will notice that the clouds of
thoughts and emotions will slowly slowly start to disperse and the vast

blue

sky of your inner being will appear -- you will have a taste of going
beyond the body-mind-heart complex. Once you have experienced this state

you

have tasted meditation; and meditation is peace, meditation is joy --
meditation is fulfillment.

So on the one hand the deprogramming institute cleanses you,
empties
you, makes you a vacuum; and on the other hand the meditation institute

goes

on helping you to enjoy your nothingness, your emptiness, your inner
vacuum -- its cleanliness, its freshness. And as you start enjoying it,

you

start feeling that it is not empty at all, it is full of joy. It looked
empty at first because you were accustomed to having so much rubbish in

it,

and that rubbish has been removed so you say it looks empty.

It is just like a room full of furniture: you have always seen it

full

of furniture; then one day you come and all the furniture is removed and

you

say: "The room looks empty." The room is not empty, the room is simply
clean. The room is roomy for the first time. It was cluttered before,
burdened, full of rubbish; now it is pure space.

You have to learn meditation to enjoy your emptiness.

And that is one of the greatest days in life -- when a person
starts
enjoying emptiness, aloneness, nothingness, because then you will be able

to

live your whole life meditatively.

And by living meditatively I mean to be loving, to be alert, to be
a
witness. Whatever you are doing, do it with joy and totality -- do it as

if

this is the greatest thing in the world in this moment. When you do

anything

with such intensity, with such love, with such respect, you will be
transformed by it.

Unless something transforms you, it is not meditation.

But all the religions have been doing prayers in the name of
meditation, prayers which are nothing but complaints and desires. They

will

not take you to your innermost being or into some higher state of
consciousness -- you will remain the same person.

And in the name of meditation there are hundreds of so-called

teachers

who go on exploiting people. Their teachings are of disciplining the mind

by

practicing concentration. But concentration is a mind phenomenon, it
makes the mind even stronger -- and meditation, in short, is nothing but

creating

a gap between you and your mind.

For example, Transcendental Meditation has become representative of
all so-called meditations: you concentrate on some word, a holy word, and
you repeat it as fast as you can -- without gaps in between. This creates

a

deliberate kind of sleep and gives you relaxation from thinking. It is an
enjoyable exercise and coming out of it you will feel refreshed. I am not
against it -- but please don't call it meditation and don't call it
transcendental; those are wrong words for it. It is hypnotic

auto-suggestion

and nothing more.

Meditation will make you a new being, a new man, a new
consciousness
which knows no fear, no seriousness, no greed, no hate -- nothing of
those dark emotions and sentiments which are ugly, sick, nauseating;
meditation knows only that which uplifts you, which goes on uplifting
you.

Then nobody can reprogram you, nobody in the whole world.

Unless the meditation institute gives you its degree, the
university
is not going to give you a degree.

The university's degree will come only when a clearance certificate
from the deprogramming institute and a graduation certificate from the
meditation university have been granted. It will depend on you -- you can
graduate in one year, you can graduate in two years, you can graduate in
three years, four years. But four years is too much. Any imbecile, if he
just sits for one hour every day, doing nothing, for four years, is bound

to

find what Buddha or Lao Tzu have found, what I have found.

It is not a question of intelligence, talent, genius. It is only a
question of patience.

So from the university meditation institute you get a degree, a
bachelor of meditation; then you get a bachelor of arts or commerce or
science, not before it. And in the same way it continues. You get a

master's

degree in meditation, M.M., and again you will be required to continue

with

the deprogramming institute for two years, because you can't be left
alone so easily.

These processes go on simultaneously -- deprogramming and

meditation.

One institute goes on cleaning you, emptying you; the other goes on

filling

you -- not with some thing, but with some quality: blissfulness,

lovingness,

compassion, a tremendous feeling of worth for no reason at all. Just that
you are living, breathing, is enough proof that existence thinks you

worthy

of living, that existence thinks you worthy of being here.

You are indispensable to existence.

So if a person continues to study in the university, then he

continues

to go to the meditation institute for one hour every day, and before he

gets

his M.A., he gets his M.M. -- that is, master of meditation. These are
clearance certificates for your M.A. degree. And I want this to continue.

If

you are going to do your Ph.D. then you do four years of deprogramming
and four years of meditation. Those are compulsory to the very end, so
when

you

come out of the university you are not only an intelligent person,
well-informed, you are also a meditator -- relaxed, joyful, silent,
peaceful, observant, watchful, intuitive. And you are no longer a

Christian,

no longer a Hindu, no longer an American, no longer a Russian. All that

has

been completely burned; nothing is left of it.

This is the only way: to replace the politicians by the
intelligentsia.

But as the intelligentsia is now, it won't be of much help, because
they are still in the grip of power politics.

That's why I make these two conditions. If you get a Ph.D.,
simultaneously you will be getting a doctor's degree in meditation. So

while

you are being educated you are in a very silent and subtle way being
prepared to be in power, in such a way that power cannot corrupt you,
that you cannot misuse it.

You can't just deprogam people at age 18 - 20, you
have to start young.
I truly believe critical thinking should be taught
starting with 1st graders. By the 6th or 7th grade,
if you aren't a critical thinker, you probably won't be.
By that age we should be teaching kids about Stanley
Milgrams Obedience to Authority experiments, the Solomon Asch
experiments on conformism, the Princeton Prison experiments,
experimental psychology should be taught at an early age to
show kids "Don't be like this". "Don't accept people around
you being like this".
Basic logic and logical fallacies should be taught starting
about the third grade. An error is still an error even if 50
million people agree to it. Children should know the basics
and be taught real world, historical, vivid examples of such
errors and the dire consequences to color their thinking
forever after.
Children should be taught to recognize basic propaganda
techniques.
Most people even adults nowadays can't deal with
this stuff sensibly.
.


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