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02 Oct 2005 01:41:20 PM |
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Re: Prescriptions for Sexual Sanity (PRefeRencEs) |
Sir Frederick wrote:
Know that each primate folk (person) is the product of a long
evolutionary process that certainly includes insanity as an evolved
means in that process. That certainly includes sex. We are each
insane in our dealing with sex issues. The insanity is 'built in'.
There is no way out to 'sanity'.
..=2E.Nowhere do people have an equal desire for all members of the
opposite sex. Everywhere some potential mates are preferred, others
shunned. Our sexual desires have come into being in the same way as
have other kinds of desires.
Consider the survival
problem of what
food to eat.
Humans are faced with a bewildering array of potential objects to
ingest-berries, fruit, nuts, meat, dirt, gravel, poisonous plants,
twigs, and trees. If we had no taste preferences and ingested objects
from our environment at random, some people, by chance alone, would
consume ripe fruit, fresh nuts, and other objects that provide caloric
and nutritive sustenance. Others, also by chance alone, would eat
rancid meat, rotten fruit, and toxins. Earlier humans who preferred
nutritious objects survived.
Our actual food preferences bear out this evolutionary process. We show
great fondness for substances rich in fat, sugar, protein, and salt and
an aversion to substances that are bitter, sour, and toxic. These food
preferences solve a basic problem of survival. We carry them with us
today precisely because they solved critical adaptive problems for our
ancestors.
Our desires in a mate serve analogous adaptive purposes...
..=2E.Although ancestral selection pressures are responsible for creating
the mating strategies we use today, our current conditions differ from
the historical conditions under which those strategies evolved.
Ancestral people got their vegetables from gathering and their meat
from hunting, whereas modern people get their food from supermarkets
and restaurants.
Similarly, modern urban people today deploy their mating strategies in
singles bars, at parties, through computer networks, and by means of
dating services rather than on the savanna, in protected caves, or
around primitive campfires.
Whereas modern conditions of mating differ from ancestral conditions,
the same sexual strategies operate with unbridled force. Our evolved
psychology of mating remains. It is the only mating psychology we have;
it just gets played out in a modern environment.
To illustrate, look at the foods consumed in massive quantities at fast
food chains. We have not evolved any genes for McDonalds, but the foods
we eat there reveal the ancestral strategies for survival we carry with
us today. We consume in vast quantities fat, sugar, protein, and salt
in the form of burgers, shakes, french fries, and pizzas. Fast food
chains are popular precisely because they serve these elements in
concentrated quantities. They reveal the food preferences that evolved
in a past environment of scarcity. Today, however, we overconsume these
elements because of their evolutionarily unprecedented abundance, and
the old survival strategies now hurt our health. We are stuck with the
taste preferences that evolved under different conditions, because
evolution works on a time scale too slow to keep up with the radical
changes of the past several hundred years. Although we cannot go back
in time and observe directly what those ancestral conditions were, our
current taste preferences, like our fear of snakes and our fondness for
children, provide a window for viewing what those conditions must have
been. We carry with us equipment that was designed for an ancient
world.
Our evolved mating strategies, just like our survival strategies, may
be currently maladaptive in the currencies of survival and
reproduction. The advent of AIDS, for example, renders casual sex far
more dangerous to survival than it ever was under ancestral
conditions...
The Evolution of Desire:
Strategies of Human Mating
by David M. Buss
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0465021433/
Bert Clanton wrote:
PRESCRIPTIONS FOR SEXUAL SANITY
Know that your body is innocent, just the way it is,
just the way it
normally and naturally works. Be completely at ease
with your body and
with everything that it normally and naturally
does. Live completely
free of bodily shame. Don=B9t feel upset or embarassed
when other people
see your naked body, or see you having sex or using the toilet or
engaging in any other activity appropriate to your body.
Know that other people=B9s bodies are as innocent as your own. Be
completely at ease with other people=B9s bodies and
with all the things
that their bodies normally and naturally do. Be completely free of
prudishness. Don=B9t feel embarassed or offended when you see other
people=B9s naked bodies, or witness them having sex or
using the toilet or
engaging in any other activity appropriate to their bodies.
Know that your curiosity about other people=B9s bodies
and how they work
is natural and innocent. Never suppress this natural
curiosity or feel
ashamed of it. Rather feel free to satisfy your
curiosity in any way
that=B9s comfortable for other people, and free to
satisfy other people=B9s
curiosity in any way that=B9s comfortable for you.
But when your curiosity
is satisfied, move on to other things. Be free
of prurience, free of
that chronic shame-laden preoccupation with
the body and its functions
which develops when what people find naturally and instinctively
interesting is shamed and concealed.
Know that affectionate non-sexual touch is
innocent and nurturing.
Affectionate touching and embracing can be a beautiful and supportive
part of our communication with one another, and
can promote a communal
feeling of love and connectedness among us. Know that affectionate
non-sexual touch is especially important for our
children, helping them
to feel loved and valued.
Know that your sexual feelings are natural and
innocent. Your sexuality
is an integral and delightful aspect of your embodiment, so be
completely comfortable with all your sexual urges and desires. Be
completely at ease when your body shows signs of sexual arousal or
desire, and don=B9t be embarassed or upset when you see
that someone else
is sexually excited.
Know that you are always completely at choice
about whether to be sexual
and how to be sexual. Celibacy, freely chosen,
is a legitimate and
honorable way of life. A sexually active way of
life, freely chosen and
responsibly practiced, is equally legitimate and
honorable. Know as well
that you are always free to choose not to engage in sexual activity, and
to decline to participate in any kind of sexual
activity that you don=B9t
enjoy.
Know that pleasuring yourself sexually is natural and innocent.
Self-pleasuring is a normal and appropriate form
of sexual activity,
gratifying in its own right, and useful both as a
means for exploring
your own sexual sensibilities and as a means of enjoying yourself
sexually in the absence of a partner. Don=B9t be ashamed to be seen
pleasuring yourself sexually by people who are
comfortable seeing you,
and don=B9t be offended or embarassed when you see others pleasuring
themselves. But in the presence of those who would be
offended by seeing
you pleasuring yourself, act with consideration and restraint
appropriate to the situation.
Know that any form of harmless sexual activity or relationship is
morally right, and that only harmful sexual activities
and relationships
are morally wrong. Feel completely uninhibited and free
of guilt about
engaging in any kind of sexual activity or relationship,
so long as you
act responsibly, so long as
=80 the activity or relationship is not physically harmful to anyone
engaged in it;
=80 the activity or relationship is not in itself
upsetting or offensive,
independent of learning or custom, to people affected by it;
=80 everyone involved insures that appropriate measures are taken to
prevent inappropriate pregnancy and the transmission of disease;
=80 the activity or relationship does not endanger any
existing viable
beneficial intimate relationship;
=80 everyone involved is competent to give informed consent to the
activity or relationship, and freely gives such consent.
Know that there are many harmless and rewarding kinds of sexual
relationships. Feel completely free to be sexually
involved with one
partner or with more than one, purely for enjoyment or as an
expression of deep committed love, in a long term
commitment or just for
the moment, with a partner of your same sex or the
other sex, so long as
your relationship is consistent with the well-being
of everyone involved
in it. Freely choose among all these forms of relationship, taking into
account your personal sexual orientation, your
values, your preferences,
and the circumstances of your life.
Know that honest communication about our bodies
and their functions is
innocent and beneficial. Don=B9t be ashamed or
embarassed to speak freely
about having sex or using the toilet, and don=B9t
be offended if others
speak freely and frankly about these activities.
If it=B9s normal and
natural to do something, then feel at ease talking
about doing it and
hearing other people talking about doing it. But
in the presence of
others who would be offended by such frankness,
speak with consideration
and restraint appropriate to the situation.
Know that communicating your sexual feelings
is natural and innocent.
Feel free to be open and frank about your feelings
of sexual attraction
or desire. But don't assume any obligation by the
other person to return
your feelings or to act on them; and if they don=B9t
reciprocate your
feelings, accept their choice with good grace.
Likewise be completely at
ease when other people let you know that they
are attracted to you. But
don't feel any obligation to return their feelings
or to act on them;
and if you don=B9t want to be sexual with them, express your lack of
interest with gentleness and considerateness. In
the presence of others
who would be offended by such honest communication, speak with
appropriate consideration and restraint.
Know that since your sexual feelings are natural and innocent, being
aroused by erotic pictures and performances and stories is natural and
innocent. Freely enjoy sexually explicit pictures and performances and
stories, and freely enjoy the arousal that such productions are intended
to evoke.
Know that sexual engagements with =B3outsiders=B2 don=B9t necessarily en=
danger
your primary relationships. If you are in an intimate relationship, and
your partner feels comfortable with your having responsible sex with
other people, feel completely free to participate in such =B3outside=B2
activities; and be equally comfortable when your partner has responsible
sex with other people.
Know that you can have a sexually open marriage and still be an
effective loving parent to your children. Rearing children, and lovingly
nurturing them, is a matter of extreme importance for any community, and
a stable family of whatever form is the most reliable and effective
known environment for such an endeavor. But know that you and your
spouse can parent a stable family while still opening your marriage to
responsible sexual encounters with outsiders.
Know that your children=B9s curiosity about sex is natural and
innocent.Know that children of all ages are normally and naturally
curious about their own and others' bodies, and particularly about their
sexuality; and that this curiosity normally and naturally gives rise to
exploratory behavior. Be completely at ease with this curiosity, and
with the exploration that it naturally evokes. Always satisfy your
children=B9s curiosity about sex in an honest and accurate way,
appropriate to their capacity for understanding. Encourage your
children to explore their developing sexuality responsibly, in ways that
are voluntary, consensual, and harmless for every participant.
Know that your teenagers=B9 sexual activity is natural and normal, and is
innocent so long as they engage in it responsibly. Be completely at ease
with the developing sexuality of your teenagers. Know that puberty marks
the natural onset of sexual maturity, and that it is normal and natural
for teenagers to be sexual with one another. But teach your sons and
daughters to be responsible in their sexual interactions as well as
being sexually free and uninhibited. Completely accept
for them that
degree of sexual freedom commensurate with their
demonstrated capacity
for biological and emotional responsibility.
Know that you can=B9t force anyone to adopt these beliefs and
attutudes.Don=B9t try to impose this perspective of
freedom, openness, and
candor upon anyone who finds it abhorrent. But
adamantly reject and
oppose any attempt by anyone to restrict your practice of
body-acceptance and responsible sexual freedom..
Know that a community that lives in such natural innocence is a
community worth establishing and protecting. Deeply believe in the
natural innocence of human embodiment in all its aspects. In the sexual
aspect of your life, as in others, act and speak with responsible
freedom, yet with consideration for the needs and sensibilities of
others. Work for the establishment and spread of a humane society which
teaches, practices, and celebrates such innocence, responsibility,
considerateness, and freedom.
--
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking,
which leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy."
- Robert Anton Wilson
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| User: "Dan Skunk" |
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| Title: Re: Prescriptions for Sexual Sanity (PRefeRencEs) |
03 Oct 2005 06:44:54 PM |
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"Immortalist" <reanimater_2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1128278480.595564.23930@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Sir Frederick wrote:
Our evolved mating strategies, just like our survival strategies, may
be currently maladaptive in the currencies of survival and
reproduction. The advent of AIDS, for example, renders casual sex far
more dangerous to survival than it ever was under ancestral
conditions...
The Evolution of Desire:
Strategies of Human Mating
by David M. Buss
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0465021433/
I don't think humans are in any danger of extinction as a whole, but
certainly, one should make use of all one's faculties when making a
decision.
One should neither ignore reason in favour of sexual desire, nor ignore
sexual desire in favour of reason.
Just as there is danger in sexual activity, so there is danger in ignoring
one's natural needs and desires. It results in stress and dissatisfaction
which impacts not only one's quality of life but can impact one's health as
well.
With humans, sex is not only an expression of romantic love or for
reproduction, but to bond individuals together in friendship.
One should try to balance reason with desire to optimize satisfaction and
minimize danger.
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| User: "Immortalist" |
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| Title: Re: Prescriptions for Sexual Sanity (PRefeRencEs) |
05 Oct 2005 11:50:39 AM |
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Dan Skunk wrote:
"Immortalist" <reanimater_2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1128278480.595564.23930@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Sir Frederick wrote:
Our evolved mating strategies, just like our survival strategies, may
be currently maladaptive in the currencies of survival and
reproduction. The advent of AIDS, for example, renders casual sex far
more dangerous to survival than it ever was under ancestral
conditions...
The Evolution of Desire:
Strategies of Human Mating
by David M. Buss
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0465021433/
I don't think humans are in any danger of extinction as a whole, but
certainly, one should make use of all one's faculties when making a
decision.
One should neither ignore reason in favour of sexual desire, nor ignore
sexual desire in favour of reason.
Just as there is danger in sexual activity, so there is danger in ignoring
one's natural needs and desires. It results in stress and dissatisfaction
which impacts not only one's quality of life but can impact one's health as
well.
With humans, sex is not only an expression of romantic love or for
reproduction, but to bond individuals together in friendship.
One should try to balance reason with desire to optimize satisfaction and
minimize danger.
Has the advent of AIDS rendered casual sex far more or less dangerous
to survival than it ever was under ancestral conditions?
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| User: "Dan Skunk" |
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| Title: Re: Prescriptions for Sexual Sanity (PRefeRencEs) |
05 Oct 2005 01:50:02 PM |
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"Immortalist" <reanimater_2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1128531039.918518.169410@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Dan Skunk wrote:
"Immortalist" <reanimater_2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1128278480.595564.23930@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Sir Frederick wrote:
Our evolved mating strategies, just like our survival strategies, may
be currently maladaptive in the currencies of survival and
reproduction. The advent of AIDS, for example, renders casual sex far
more dangerous to survival than it ever was under ancestral
conditions...
The Evolution of Desire:
Strategies of Human Mating
by David M. Buss
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0465021433/
I don't think humans are in any danger of extinction as a whole, but
certainly, one should make use of all one's faculties when making a
decision.
One should neither ignore reason in favour of sexual desire, nor ignore
sexual desire in favour of reason.
Just as there is danger in sexual activity, so there is danger in
ignoring
one's natural needs and desires. It results in stress and
dissatisfaction
which impacts not only one's quality of life but can impact one's health
as
well.
With humans, sex is not only an expression of romantic love or for
reproduction, but to bond individuals together in friendship.
One should try to balance reason with desire to optimize satisfaction
and
minimize danger.
Has the advent of AIDS rendered casual sex far more or less dangerous
to survival than it ever was under ancestral conditions?
It has made it more dangerous, but it has not made it less important.
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| User: "Bert Clanton" |
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| Title: Re: Prescriptions for Sexual Sanity (PRefeRencEs) |
05 Oct 2005 01:37:00 PM |
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In article <1128531039.918518.169410@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Immortalist" <reanimater_2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
Has the advent of AIDS rendered casual sex far more or less dangerous
to survival than it ever was under ancestral conditions?
Yes and no.
Yes, in the sense that infection by the AIDS virus is much more likely
to result in death than infection by STD vectors known prior to the
appearance of AIDS.
No, in the sense that methods which were available and effective in
preventing STD infections before the advent of AIDS are also effective
in preventing infection by the AIDS virus. There's a lot of Christian
propaganda that says this isn't true, that these measures often fail;
but in fact is is true.
Of course, the answer to your question depends on what you mean by
"casual" sex. If you mean irresponsible sexual activity which doesn't
involve the use of effective available prophylactic measures, you're in
considerable danger of infection--though still statistically less danger
of AIDS infection than of infection by other STD's. The problem is,
there's no real *cure* for AIDS.
But even a "one night stand" is pretty safe if you correctly use
available effective prophylaxis.
Best wishes,
Bert
--
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking,
which leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy."
- Robert Anton Wilson
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| User: "Bert Clanton" |
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| Title: Re: Prescriptions for Sexual Sanity (PRefeRencEs) |
03 Oct 2005 07:33:58 PM |
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In article <V6SdnYgvS5zSWdzeRVn-vw@rogers.com>,
"Dan Skunk" <danskunk@gmail.com> wrote:
With humans, sex is not only an expression of romantic love or for
reproduction, but to bond individuals together in friendship.
True indeed. But let's not forget or suppress the idea that it's also
jolly good fun!
Best wishes,
Bert
--
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking,
which leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy."
- Robert Anton Wilson
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| User: "Dan Skunk" |
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| Title: Re: Prescriptions for Sexual Sanity (PRefeRencEs) |
03 Oct 2005 08:44:02 PM |
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"Bert Clanton" <eubiotist@starstream.net> wrote in message
news:eubiotist-865E28.17335803102005@news.isp.giganews.com...
In article <V6SdnYgvS5zSWdzeRVn-vw@rogers.com>,
"Dan Skunk" <danskunk@gmail.com> wrote:
With humans, sex is not only an expression of romantic love or for
reproduction, but to bond individuals together in friendship.
True indeed. But let's not forget or suppress the idea that it's also
jolly good fun!
I wouldn't think of it. :)
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