Sairiliyan Siyaska wrote:

Rational: There is no ng in which we can discuss existence of
supernatural force in rational way. Generally ID is connected to
religion and this perception creates confusion in rational minds.

Really, ID is god of the gaps.
ID claims there are some things that are irreducible,
that is cannot be disproven by evolution, but many
specific examples by IDists of such have turned
out to be understood by science IDists are sloppy
and careless. And there is no way they can prove
their contention that there are somethings not
explainable by evolution. Right there ID collapses.
Plue ID has left lots of documents admitting it
is only politics and rhetoric designed to get
creation into schools under a nother name.

The most important thing here is, the IDists
cannot prove that there is anything in principle
that evolution cannot prove, given time and hard
work. This is the most important things to note.

Their metaphysical underpinnings are utter nonsense.

The second important issue is, an omni-everything
creator class of gods is impossible.

With no god that is viable, creationism is dead.
There is I don't think, much need for a newsgroup.
What is needed is simply a few URL's to websites
that keep up with the doings of these IDiots.
An ID FAQ.

Go ahead if you wish, if somebody wanted to post
news there, links to stories about IDiots at play,
that might be worthwhile.

We already have alt.talk.creationism.