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Topic:	Religions > Atheism
User:	"Robibnikoff"
Date:	27 Apr 2005 10:18:03 AM
Object:	Re: QUESTIONS FOR NON-CHRISTIANS

"Frankie Lee" <S9641315@singnet.com.sg> wrote in message
news:d4o5g8$nct$1@reader01.singnet.com.sg...

1,Do you know what happen to you after death?

Nope.

If you do not know where you will go after death,and Christian can confirm
to you what would be your destiny,is there any reason to not accept their
version of truths?

The only way I'd buy it would be if they could provide objective, verifiable
evidence.

2, Do you know that there is a God?

Of course not.

If you are an atheist,and do not know God,naturally you need to enquire
those who know God.

No, I need objective, verifiable evidence this god exists.

3,What happen to people who died without the saviour Lord Jesus to catch
them when they are plunge into eternity?

They're dead.

We,the Christians,do no surmise,guess or speculate as to what will happen

non-christian when they die.We know and is sure that they will end up in
Hell and be tormented.The prospect is a horrible one,and the time span is
all eternity.

Please provide objective, verifiable evidence that hell exists and this will
happen.

We do not bluff,but speak the truths.

See above.

4,Why human suffer,in agony,in sickness and pain?

This doesn't happen to everyone. ***** happens.

We know it is a prelude to a greater sufferings after death.We do not

guess

or speculate.

See my comment about providing objective, verifiable evidence.

5, Who can you trust with your soul,for all Eternity?

Please prove the soul exists.

Yourself? Some great men,whom you called leaders?Your belief that it will
become nothingness?Charles Darwin?

See above.

The bible says:The whole world is in the hands of the god of this

world,the

Devil,and is seeking for people to devour.

So? There's no objective verifiable evidence that the bible is true or that
this devil character exists. Consequently, no reason to take it seriously.

Jesus declared that He came to save,and give abundantly life.By not

choosing

Jesus,and begging Him for mercy, one stay in sins and stay condemned.

See my above comments about providing objective, verifiable evidence.
Anytime you're ready.
--
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Bride of Satan
#1557
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User: "Robibnikoff"
Title: Re: QUESTIONS FOR NON-CHRISTIANS	30 Apr 2005 01:32:47 PM

"jw @yahoo.com>" <j w<no> wrote in message
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x-no-archive: yes
On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:22:29 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
group)

"Vic Sagerquist" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96465E69A3029vicman@127.0.0.1...

on 27 Apr 2005 in alt.atheism, jw <j w dropped trou, farted, whirled,
then
shouted:

When you continue to insist on libeling me with unsubstantiated lies,
do not expect serious dialogue.

Expect criminal prosecution.

You recently told someone you do this because you find it "fun." You
find breaking the law fun? 1. DELIBERATE harassment 2. DELIBERATE
libel

Welcome to usenet, *****.

Porno boy is a blowhard.

Keep up the libel, bride of Satan, and I'm going to bury you DEEP.

Yeah, Monday morning, right? I mean, you wouldn't want MORE proof on here
that you're a blatant liar, right?
--
---------
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
.

User: "Robibnikoff"
Title: Re: QUESTIONS FOR NON-CHRISTIANS - Weatherly's a liar	02 May 2005 07:49:45 AM

"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
news:3di1aeF6rrfa8U1@individual.net...
Well, well, well. Here it is 8:48 a.m. and I never heard from John
Weatherly's lawyers about the lawsuit he claimed to be filing against me.
What more proof does anyone need that porno boy is a lying blowhard.
--
------
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
.

User: "stoney"
Title: Re: QUESTIONS FOR NON-CHRISTIANS - Weatherly's a liar	03 May 2005 10:02:15 AM

On Mon, 2 May 2005 08:49:45 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:

"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
news:3di1aeF6rrfa8U1@individual.net...

Well, well, well. Here it is 8:48 a.m. and I never heard from John
Weatherly's lawyers about the lawsuit he claimed to be filing against me.

What more proof does anyone need that porno boy is a lying blowhard.

That and brainless has been demonstrated and documented for what seems
like eons.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.

User: "jw j"
Title: Re: QUESTIONS FOR NON-CHRISTIANS - Weatherly's a liar	04 May 2005 02:29:34 AM

x-no-archive: yes
On Tue, 03 May 2005 08:02:15 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
group)

On Mon, 2 May 2005 08:49:45 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:

"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
news:3di1aeF6rrfa8U1@individual.net...

Well, well, well. Here it is 8:48 a.m. and I never heard from John
Weatherly's lawyers about the lawsuit he claimed to be filing against me.

What more proof does anyone need that porno boy is a lying blowhard.

That and brainless has been demonstrated and documented for what seems
like eons.

Oh?
And would stoney like the opportunity to PROVE these "lies" in court?
Your disbelief and jealousy and envy do not equal me being a liar, and
when the time comes, I will prove that I have told the truth, and that
you and many others are sheltered and jealous.
For one TINY example, have you seen the Mona Lisa? Have you seen the
David? Have you seen the Last Supper?
I have. So now who is envious of whom?
jw
.

User: "Robibnikoff"
Title: Re: QUESTIONS FOR NON-CHRISTIANS - Weatherly's a liar	04 May 2005 07:43:00 AM

"jw @yahoo.com>" <j w<no> wrote in message
news:rbug71pogoont5k98najruk0tb3k7jg1cn@4ax.com...

x-no-archive: yes
On Tue, 03 May 2005 08:02:15 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
group)

On Mon, 2 May 2005 08:49:45 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:

me.

What more proof does anyone need that porno boy is a lying blowhard.

That and brainless has been demonstrated and documented for what seems
like eons.

Oh?

And would stoney like the opportunity to PROVE these "lies" in court?

More useless threats, limpdick?

Your disbelief and jealousy and envy do not equal me being a liar, and
when the time comes, I will prove that I have told the truth, and that
you and many others are sheltered and jealous.

For one TINY example, have you seen the Mona Lisa? Have you seen the
David? Have you seen the Last Supper?

Yes, back in 1971 on a trip to Paris with my family. Also went to Notre
Dame. You?

I have. So now who is envious of whom?

Why should anyone give a ***** that either one of us have seen those
paintings at the Louvre? I've been to the Vatican as well. Have YOU?
--
------
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
.

User: "stoney"
Title: Re: QUESTIONS FOR NON-CHRISTIANS - Weatherly's a liar	06 May 2005 09:12:47 AM

On Wed, 04 May 2005 00:29:34 -0700, jw <j w<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:

x-no-archive: yes
On Tue, 03 May 2005 08:02:15 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
group)

On Mon, 2 May 2005 08:49:45 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:

"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
news:3di1aeF6rrfa8U1@individual.net...

Well, well, well. Here it is 8:48 a.m. and I never heard from John
Weatherly's lawyers about the lawsuit he claimed to be filing against me.

What more proof does anyone need that porno boy is a lying blowhard.

That and brainless has been demonstrated and documented for what seems
like eons.

Oh?

And would stoney like the opportunity to PROVE these "lies" in court?

File away, dickless. Pop a nut.

Your disbelief and jealousy and envy do not equal me being a liar, and
when the time comes, I will prove that I have told the truth, and that
you and many others are sheltered and jealous.

LMAO at the delusional pervert.

For one TINY example, have you seen the Mona Lisa? Have you seen the
David? Have you seen the Last Supper?

I have. So now who is envious of whom?

WTF are you drooling about now, dickless?
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.

User: "Masked Avenger"
Title: Re: QUESTIONS FOR NON-CHRISTIANS - Weatherly's a liar	05 May 2005 07:24:34 AM

jw <j w wrote:

x-no-archive: yes
On Tue, 03 May 2005 08:02:15 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
group)

On Mon, 2 May 2005 08:49:45 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:

"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
news:3di1aeF6rrfa8U1@individual.net...

Well, well, well. Here it is 8:48 a.m. and I never heard from John
Weatherly's lawyers about the lawsuit he claimed to be filing against me.

What more proof does anyone need that porno boy is a lying blowhard.

That and brainless has been demonstrated and documented for what seems
like eons.

Oh?

And would stoney like the opportunity to PROVE these "lies" in court?

Your disbelief and jealousy and envy do not equal me being a liar, and
when the time comes, I will prove that I have told the truth, and that
you and many others are sheltered and jealous.

For one TINY example, have you seen the Mona Lisa? Have you seen the
David? Have you seen the Last Supper?

I have. So now who is envious of whom?

Envy .... isn't that one of the seven deadly sins John ? Demonstrating
your hypocrisy again are we ?
While you're in a litigating state of mind .... are you going to sue
everyone who's called you a liar ? When are you going to sue me ? I'd
like to see you try ......
--
Masked Avenger
aa#2224
EAC Chief Technician in charge of remotely rigging Fundie 'Spell
Checkers' so they all look like hick home schooled yokels
Does Schroedinger's cat have 18 half lives ?
.

User: "stoney"
Title: Re: QUESTIONS FOR NON-CHRISTIANS - Weatherly's a liar	06 May 2005 09:13:29 AM

On Thu, 05 May 2005 22:24:34 +1000, Masked Avenger
<cootey_59@yahoo.com> wrote:

jw <j w wrote:

x-no-archive: yes
On Tue, 03 May 2005 08:02:15 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
group)

On Mon, 2 May 2005 08:49:45 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:

"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
news:3di1aeF6rrfa8U1@individual.net...

Well, well, well. Here it is 8:48 a.m. and I never heard from John
Weatherly's lawyers about the lawsuit he claimed to be filing against me.

What more proof does anyone need that porno boy is a lying blowhard.

That and brainless has been demonstrated and documented for what seems
like eons.

Oh?

And would stoney like the opportunity to PROVE these "lies" in court?

Your disbelief and jealousy and envy do not equal me being a liar, and
when the time comes, I will prove that I have told the truth, and that
you and many others are sheltered and jealous.

For one TINY example, have you seen the Mona Lisa? Have you seen the
David? Have you seen the Last Supper?

I have. So now who is envious of whom?

The dumbfuck can't even take a ***** on its own.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.

User: "jw j"
Title: Re: QUESTIONS FOR NON-CHRISTIANS - Weatherly's a liar	04 May 2005 02:27:40 AM

x-no-archive: yes
On Mon, 2 May 2005 08:49:45 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
group)

I don't recall saying that I had filed a lawsuit against you. I first
have to FIND you, since you are such a coward you are hiding behind a
phony name and phony e-mail address.
I said I plan to sue you and to prosecute you for illegal and
felonious Internet harassment.
And slow down! I'm in no hurry! Why are YOU in such a rush?

What more proof does anyone need that porno boy is a lying blowhard.

And who is this porno boy you're so in love with, Mrs Satan?
jw
.

User: "Robibnikoff"
Title: Re: QUESTIONS FOR NON-CHRISTIANS - Weatherly's a liar	04 May 2005 07:40:14 AM

"jw @yahoo.com>" <j w<no> wrote in message
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x-no-archive: yes
On Mon, 2 May 2005 08:49:45 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
group)

I don't recall saying that I had filed a lawsuit against you.

You've been threatening to do so forever. I figured I'd just give you that
extra push. Yep, all talk and no action.
I first

have to FIND you, since you are such a coward you are hiding behind a
phony name and phony e-mail address.

Oh boo hoo, you big baby. Shall I be like you and have my home number and
address all over the Internet so a sick ***** like you can harass me? Forget
it.

I said I plan to sue you and to prosecute you for illegal and
felonious Internet harassment.

So, what's the holdup?

And slow down! I'm in no hurry! Why are YOU in such a rush?

Because I just wanted to prove that you're full of ***** - Mission
accomplished.

What more proof does anyone need that porno boy is a lying blowhard.

And who is this porno boy you're so in love with, Mrs Satan?

Why, that would be you deary. You're the self-admitted author. Or have you
forgotten already? Time to up the meds, deary.
--
------
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
.

User: "Masked Avenger"
Title: Re: QUESTIONS FOR NON-CHRISTIANS - Weatherly's a liar	05 May 2005 07:29:57 AM

jw <j w wrote:

x-no-archive: yes
On Mon, 2 May 2005 08:49:45 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
group)

I don't recall saying that I had filed a lawsuit against you. I first
have to FIND you, since you are such a coward you are hiding behind a
phony name and phony e-mail address.

I said I plan to sue you and to prosecute you for illegal and
felonious Internet harassment.

And slow down! I'm in no hurry! Why are YOU in such a rush?

Stalling now John ?

What more proof does anyone need that porno boy is a lying blowhard.

And who is this porno boy you're so in love with, Mrs Satan?

It's you ***** ! ......... you're Porno Boy ....... gee you're
thick....... though I doubt VERY much Robyn holds a torch for you, I
reckon she's gagging at the thought .... I can't imagine anyone wanting
to associate with you .....
--
Masked Avenger
aa#2224
EAC Chief Technician in charge of remotely rigging Fundie 'Spell
Checkers' so they all look like hick home schooled yokels
Does Schroedinger's cat have 18 half lives ?
.

User: "Robibnikoff"
Title: Re: QUESTIONS FOR NON-CHRISTIANS - Weatherly's a liar	05 May 2005 08:29:03 AM

"Masked Avenger" <cootey_59@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:427a11cf$0$10301$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

jw <j w wrote:

x-no-archive: yes
On Mon, 2 May 2005 08:49:45 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
group)

me.

I don't recall saying that I had filed a lawsuit against you. I first
have to FIND you, since you are such a coward you are hiding behind a
phony name and phony e-mail address.

I said I plan to sue you and to prosecute you for illegal and
felonious Internet harassment.

And slow down! I'm in no hurry! Why are YOU in such a rush?

Stalling now John ?

What more proof does anyone need that porno boy is a lying blowhard.

And who is this porno boy you're so in love with, Mrs Satan?

Indeed. I'd take out a restraining order against him like his ex-wife did.
--
------
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
.

User: "Masked Avenger"
Title: Re: QUESTIONS FOR NON-CHRISTIANS - Weatherly's a liar	06 May 2005 05:51:14 AM

Robibnikoff wrote:

"Masked Avenger" <cootey_59@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:427a11cf$0$10301$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

jw <j w wrote:

x-no-archive: yes
On Mon, 2 May 2005 08:49:45 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
group)

me.

I don't recall saying that I had filed a lawsuit against you. I first
have to FIND you, since you are such a coward you are hiding behind a
phony name and phony e-mail address.

I said I plan to sue you and to prosecute you for illegal and
felonious Internet harassment.

And slow down! I'm in no hurry! Why are YOU in such a rush?

Stalling now John ?

What more proof does anyone need that porno boy is a lying blowhard.

And who is this porno boy you're so in love with, Mrs Satan?

Indeed. I'd take out a restraining order against him like his ex-wife did.

Ex wife ? Restraining order ? Really ? wow, my mental image of JW just
took another dive .... and I didn't think it could get any lower .....
--
Masked Avenger
aa#2224
EAC Chief Technician in charge of remotely rigging Fundie 'Spell
Checkers' so they all look like hick home schooled yokels
Does Schroedinger's cat have 18 half lives ?
.

User: "Robibnikoff"
Title: Re: QUESTIONS FOR NON-CHRISTIANS - Weatherly's a liar	06 May 2005 07:33:17 AM

"Masked Avenger" <cootey_59@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:427b4c2c$0$8125$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

Robibnikoff wrote:

"Masked Avenger" <cootey_59@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:427a11cf$0$10301$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

jw <j w wrote:

x-no-archive: yes
On Mon, 2 May 2005 08:49:45 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
group)

me.

I don't recall saying that I had filed a lawsuit against you. I first
have to FIND you, since you are such a coward you are hiding behind a
phony name and phony e-mail address.

I said I plan to sue you and to prosecute you for illegal and
felonious Internet harassment.

And slow down! I'm in no hurry! Why are YOU in such a rush?

Stalling now John ?

What more proof does anyone need that porno boy is a lying blowhard.

And who is this porno boy you're so in love with, Mrs Satan?

Indeed. I'd take out a restraining order against him like his ex-wife

did.

Ex wife ? Restraining order ? Really ? wow, my mental image of JW just
took another dive .... and I didn't think it could get any lower .....

Scary, huh?
--
------
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
.

User: "Masked Avenger"
Title: Re: QUESTIONS FOR NON-CHRISTIANS - Weatherly's a liar	07 May 2005 05:05:48 AM

Robibnikoff wrote:

"Masked Avenger" <cootey_59@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:427b4c2c$0$8125$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

Robibnikoff wrote:

"Masked Avenger" <cootey_59@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:427a11cf$0$10301$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

jw <j w wrote:

x-no-archive: yes
On Mon, 2 May 2005 08:49:45 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
group)

me.

I don't recall saying that I had filed a lawsuit against you. I first
have to FIND you, since you are such a coward you are hiding behind a
phony name and phony e-mail address.

I said I plan to sue you and to prosecute you for illegal and
felonious Internet harassment.

And slow down! I'm in no hurry! Why are YOU in such a rush?

Stalling now John ?

What more proof does anyone need that porno boy is a lying blowhard.

And who is this porno boy you're so in love with, Mrs Satan?

Indeed. I'd take out a restraining order against him like his ex-wife

did.

Ex wife ? Restraining order ? Really ? wow, my mental image of JW just
took another dive .... and I didn't think it could get any lower .....

Scary, huh?

Does Stephen King know about him ? Maybe someone should tell him ......
" excuse me Mr. King, I have this great idea for your next book ......"
--
Masked Avenger
aa#2224
EAC Chief Technician in charge of remotely rigging Fundie 'Spell
Checkers' so they all look like hick home schooled yokels
Does Schroedinger's cat have 18 half lives ?
.

User: "Robibnikoff"
Title: Re: QUESTIONS FOR NON-CHRISTIANS - Weatherly's a liar	09 May 2005 07:32:30 AM

"Masked Avenger" <cootey_59@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Robibnikoff wrote:

"Masked Avenger" <cootey_59@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:427b4c2c$0$8125$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

Robibnikoff wrote:

"Masked Avenger" <cootey_59@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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jw <j w wrote:

x-no-archive: yes
On Mon, 2 May 2005 08:49:45 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
group)

against

me.

I don't recall saying that I had filed a lawsuit against you. I first
have to FIND you, since you are such a coward you are hiding behind a
phony name and phony e-mail address.

I said I plan to sue you and to prosecute you for illegal and
felonious Internet harassment.

And slow down! I'm in no hurry! Why are YOU in such a rush?

Stalling now John ?

What more proof does anyone need that porno boy is a lying blowhard.

And who is this porno boy you're so in love with, Mrs Satan?

It's you ***** ! ......... you're Porno Boy ....... gee you're
thick....... though I doubt VERY much Robyn holds a torch for you, I
reckon she's gagging at the thought .... I can't imagine anyone

wanting

to associate with you .....

Indeed. I'd take out a restraining order against him like his ex-wife

did.

Ex wife ? Restraining order ? Really ? wow, my mental image of JW just
took another dive .... and I didn't think it could get any lower .....

Scary, huh?

Does Stephen King know about him ? Maybe someone should tell him ......
" excuse me Mr. King, I have this great idea for your next book ......"

I think Mr. King has had enough problem with stalkers. He didn't need to
get involved with this psycho.
--
------
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
.

User: "jw j"
Title: Re: QUESTIONS FOR NON-CHRISTIANS	30 Apr 2005 08:20:05 AM

x-no-archive: yes
On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:16:53 -0500, Vic Sagerquist
<address@withheld.com> wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
group)

on 27 Apr 2005 in alt.atheism, jw <j w dropped trou, farted, whirled, then
shouted:

Welcome to usenet, *****.

Users of Usenet are not immune from the law or from prosecution,
amoeba turd.
Being on the web merely makes the cowards who desire to be anonymous
harder to find.
jw
.

User: "Robibnikoff"
Title: Re: QUESTIONS FOR NON-CHRISTIANS	30 Apr 2005 01:31:59 PM

"jw @yahoo.com>" <j w<no> wrote in message
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x-no-archive: yes
On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:16:53 -0500, Vic Sagerquist
<address@withheld.com> wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
group)

on 27 Apr 2005 in alt.atheism, jw <j w dropped trou, farted, whirled, then
shouted:

Welcome to usenet, *****.

Users of Usenet are not immune from the law or from prosecution,
amoeba turd.

My, how christian of you.
So, I'll be hearing from your lawyers Monday morning right? Because if I
don't, that will just prove what a lying ***** artist you are.
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Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
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User: "Vic Sagerquist"
Title: Re: QUESTIONS FOR NON-CHRISTIANS	30 Apr 2005 11:20:32 PM

On 30 Apr 2005, jw <j w dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:

x-no-archive: yes
On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:16:53 -0500, Vic Sagerquist
<address@withheld.com> wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
group)

on 27 Apr 2005 in alt.atheism, jw <j w dropped trou, farted, whirled,
then shouted:

When you continue to insist on libeling me with unsubstantiated
lies, do not expect serious dialogue.

Expect criminal prosecution.

You recently told someone you do this because you find it "fun."
You find breaking the law fun? 1. DELIBERATE harassment 2.
DELIBERATE libel

Welcome to usenet, *****.

Users of Usenet are not immune from the law or from prosecution,
amoeba turd.

When you continue to insist on libeling me with unsubstantiated lies,
do not expect serious dialogue.
--
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aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
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As you were, I was. As I am, you will be.
--- Hunter S. Thompson
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User: "stoney"
Title: Re: QUESTIONS FOR NON-CHRISTIANS	03 May 2005 10:03:20 AM

On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 23:20:32 -0500, Vic Sagerquist
<address@withheld.com> wrote:

On 30 Apr 2005, jw <j w dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:

x-no-archive: yes
On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:16:53 -0500, Vic Sagerquist
<address@withheld.com> wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
group)

on 27 Apr 2005 in alt.atheism, jw <j w dropped trou, farted, whirled,
then shouted:

When you continue to insist on libeling me with unsubstantiated
lies, do not expect serious dialogue.

Expect criminal prosecution.

You recently told someone you do this because you find it "fun."
You find breaking the law fun? 1. DELIBERATE harassment 2.
DELIBERATE libel

Welcome to usenet, *****.

Users of Usenet are not immune from the law or from prosecution,
amoeba turd.

When you continue to insist on libeling me with unsubstantiated lies,
do not expect serious dialogue.

Weatherly couldn't conduct serious dialogue with a two year old.
It's nothing more than an attention *****.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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User: "Boxer"
Title: Re: QUESTIONS FOR NON-CHRISTIANS	27 Apr 2005 04:35:13 PM

In article <tjiv61lr96qkobsa300dbiv5qeqkmq68mc@4ax.com>, jw <j
w<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:

Nope. There is plenty of objective, verifiable evidence for
Christianity. You do not believe for two reasons:

1. you choose to not believe.
2. there are moral choices you'd Ave to make that you refuse to make

jw

Gosh - you really are damaged!
You seem to think "belief" is about "choice".
When you assent to something as being real on the basis of choice you are
exercising a personal prejudice and nothing more. The actual "belief"
here is the prejudice itself that motivates the selection
If your "Christianity" is based on prejudice then it has very little to do
with Jesus of Nazareth
Christianity is NOT a "moral choice" as you would have it. If your
"Christianity" is a "moral choice" then it is again the exercise of
personal prejudice - the exercise of "an opinion not based on reason"
On this line you frequently seek to claim that your cognitive and
behavioural problems are the result of mental illness.
They are not - mental illness may make it impossible for you to think
through your personal mental conditioning. But your real problem is
simple straightforward PREJUDICE that you have failed, through lack of
adult maturity and a developed intellect, to overcome
It is this ignorance of the real world that adds to your inability to
comprehend - even to comprehend the nature of belief
I feel sorry for you - you are indeed damaged - but not in the way you
think. You could recover from prejudice
But first you would have to gain humility and abandon abuse and bullying
Which two seem to be the entire core of your life.
++++++++++++++++
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User: "jw j"
Title: Re: QUESTIONS FOR NON-CHRISTIANS	28 Apr 2005 12:07:40 AM

x-no-archive: yes
On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:35:13 +1100,

(Boxer)
wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
group)

In article <tjiv61lr96qkobsa300dbiv5qeqkmq68mc@4ax.com>, jw <j
w<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:

Gosh - you really are damaged!

What a profound observation! We're all damaged. Just some choose to
lie and deny that they are damaged.

You seem to think "belief" is about "choice".

You seem to believe it isn't.
????

When you assent to something as being real on the basis of choice you are
exercising a personal prejudice and nothing more. The actual "belief"
here is the prejudice itself that motivates the selection

Funny. I heard that same mumbo-jumbo nonsense from my existentialist
profs in high school and university. It didn't make sense then; it
doesn't make sense now.
Yet you call MY beliefs "mumbo-jumbo" and they have historical basis.

If your "Christianity" is based on prejudice then it has very little to do
with Jesus of Nazareth

Rubbish. I have questioned virtually every aspect of my faith in 50
years. Have you?

Christianity is NOT a "moral choice" as you would have it.

Being a Christian involves a number of choices, some of them being
moral.
And if you aren't a Christian, kindly restrain yourself from telling
me how my belief system works.
jw
snip
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User: "bob young"
Title: Re: QUESTIONS FOR NON-CHRISTIANS	28 Apr 2005 06:30:02 AM

"jw

x-no-archive: yes
On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:35:13 +1100,

(Boxer)
wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
group)

In article <tjiv61lr96qkobsa300dbiv5qeqkmq68mc@4ax.com>, jw <j
w<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:

Gosh - you really are damaged!

What a profound observation! We're all damaged. Just some choose to
lie and deny that they are damaged.

You seem to think "belief" is about "choice".

You seem to believe it isn't.

????

Funny. I heard that same mumbo-jumbo nonsense from my existentialist
profs in high school and university. It didn't make sense then; it
doesn't make sense now.

Yet you call MY beliefs "mumbo-jumbo" and they have historical basis.

ALL RELIGIONS, thousands of them have historical basis. as do all the other
myths

If your "Christianity" is based on prejudice then it has very little to do
with Jesus of Nazareth

Rubbish. I have questioned virtually every aspect of my faith in 50
years. Have you?

Christianity is NOT a "moral choice" as you would have it.

Being a Christian involves a number of choices, some of them being
moral.

And if you aren't a Christian, kindly restrain yourself from telling
me how my belief system works.

jw

snip

User: "jw j"
Title: Re: QUESTIONS FOR NON-CHRISTIANS	30 Apr 2005 08:35:12 AM

x-no-archive: yes
On 28 Apr 2005 06:30:02 -0500, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com>
wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
group)

"jw

x-no-archive: yes
On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:35:13 +1100,

(Boxer)
wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
group)

In article <tjiv61lr96qkobsa300dbiv5qeqkmq68mc@4ax.com>, jw <j
w<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:

Gosh - you really are damaged!

What a profound observation! We're all damaged. Just some choose to
lie and deny that they are damaged.

You seem to think "belief" is about "choice".

You seem to believe it isn't.

????

Funny. I heard that same mumbo-jumbo nonsense from my existentialist
profs in high school and university. It didn't make sense then; it
doesn't make sense now.

Yet you call MY beliefs "mumbo-jumbo" and they have historical basis.

ALL RELIGIONS, thousands of them have historical basis. as do all the other
myths

Not true, and you just changed the subject, a typical tactic of
atheists.
jw

If your "Christianity" is based on prejudice then it has very little to do
with Jesus of Nazareth

Rubbish. I have questioned virtually every aspect of my faith in 50
years. Have you?

Christianity is NOT a "moral choice" as you would have it.

Being a Christian involves a number of choices, some of them being
moral.

And if you aren't a Christian, kindly restrain yourself from telling
me how my belief system works.

jw

snip

User: "Robibnikoff"
Title: Re: QUESTIONS FOR NON-CHRISTIANS	28 Apr 2005 04:16:40 AM

"jw @yahoo.com>" <j w<no> wrote in message
news:amr0719vr9a6hm12gfd1us300nge4aq06h@4ax.com...

x-no-archive: yes
On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:35:13 +1100,

(Boxer)
wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
group)

In article <tjiv61lr96qkobsa300dbiv5qeqkmq68mc@4ax.com>, jw <j
w<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:

Gosh - you really are damaged!

What a profound observation! We're all damaged. Just some choose to
lie and deny that they are damaged.

You seem to think "belief" is about "choice".

You seem to believe it isn't.

Prove that belief is a choice. Can you choose to believe in Santa Claus?
Go ahead.
--
---------
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
.

User: ""
Title: Re: QUESTIONS FOR NON-CHRISTIANS	28 Apr 2005 11:20:17 AM

jw wrote:

x-no-archive: yes
On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 08:35:13 +1100,

(Boxer)
wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
group)

In article <tjiv61lr96qkobsa300dbiv5qeqkmq68mc@4ax.com>, jw <j
w<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:

Nope. There is plenty of objective, verifiable evidence for
Christianity. You do not believe for two reasons:

You guys always say that, and yet you never tell us what it is.

1. you choose to not believe.
2. there are moral choices you'd Ave to make that you refuse to

make

Gosh - you really are damaged!

What a profound observation! We're all damaged. Just some choose

lie and deny that they are damaged.

You seem to think "belief" is about "choice".

You seem to believe it isn't.

????

I never understood this assertion. I cannot choose to believe anything.
And neither can you.
I can choose to act this way or that; I can make a commitment, or
refuse to, or break one that I made at one time. But I cannot choose to
believe the sky is green, or that 1 + 2 = 4, or that Santa Claus is
real.
We decide that Santa is real, or not, based on our experience and how
we reason about the subject. Most of us, as we grew older, either
aquired more information (about how the world works), and began to
think about it more maturely. But if you held a gun to my head, and
told me there *is a Santa, I might say so, in order to not get shot.
But it wouldn't make me think so.
Threatening us with an eternity of loving torture in the lake of fire
would motivate us only if we thought it was all true, you see. Someone
who already believes in the existence of Jesus as Savior may make a
commitment to be a Christian, but those of us who lack belief are no
more motivated by your threats than you are when I tell you that if you
don't start trying to find yourself in the dream of Brahma, then you
risk suffering on the Wheel of Rebirth forever.
Or that if you don't die a hero in battle, you will be forgotten, and
lose your chance to fight side-by-side with the gods against the Frost
Giants.

When you assent to something as being real on the basis of choice

you are

exercising a personal prejudice and nothing more. The actual

"belief"

here is the prejudice itself that motivates the selection

Funny. I heard that same mumbo-jumbo nonsense from my existentialist
profs in high school and university. It didn't make sense then; it
doesn't make sense now.

Yet you call MY beliefs "mumbo-jumbo" and they have historical basis.

So does Hinduism.
So, for that matter, does atheism.
Socrates, who made more sense than Sartre, did not believe in literal
gods. Atheism does not predate religion (except in a trivial sense),
but it predates Christianity.

If your "Christianity" is based on prejudice then it has very little

to do

with Jesus of Nazareth

Rubbish. I have questioned virtually every aspect of my faith in 50
years. Have you?

Christianity is NOT a "moral choice" as you would have it.

Being a Christian involves a number of choices, some of them being
moral.

And if you aren't a Christian, kindly restrain yourself from telling
me how my belief system works.

But it's clear you don't know how your own mind works. People make
choices based on what they believe. They do not *choose what to
believe, even though fundamentalists frequently think that. They're
mistaken. Like the rest of us, they believe, then they act. If you want
me to change my beliefs, you must provide either an argument I haven't
heard before, or evidence.
I agree with you that Christianity is a moral choice. But the belief in
the truth of your metaphysics is *not a choice.

jw

snip

Kermit
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User: "Christopher A. Lee"
Title: Re: QUESTIONS FOR NON-CHRISTIANS	27 Apr 2005 06:44:00 PM

On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:28:02 -0700, jw <j w<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:

"Frankie Lee" <S9641315@singnet.com.sg> wrote in message
news:d4o5g8$nct$1@reader01.singnet.com.sg...

1,Do you know what happen to you after death?

Nope.

If you do not know where you will go after death,and Christian can confirm
to you what would be your destiny,is there any reason to not accept their
version of truths?

The only way I'd buy it would be if they could provide objective, verifiable
evidence.

Nope. There is plenty of objective, verifiable evidence for

None of which you liars ever provide. Instead you resort to personal
falsehoods hoping nobody will notice you haven't provided it. Like...

Christianity. You do not believe for two reasons:
1. you choose to not believe.

Liar. There is nothing to choose, and no reason to believe. No
different than eg a Muslim lying to you about why you don't believe in
the Islamic stuff. Therefore we don't.

2. there are moral choices you'd Ave to make that you refuse to make

Liar. The "moral choice" you have made is to slander those less
ignorant and gullible than yourself. A fine advertisement for your
religion you are.

2, Do you know that there is a God?

Of course not.

Why not? How much time/energy have you spent seeking Him?

Why the ***** should anybody seek what is obviously a figment of your
deluded imagination?
Have you sought Odin, hypocrite?

If you are an atheist,and do not know God,naturally you need to enquire
those who know God.

No, I need objective, verifiable evidence this god exists.

Why? Do you have objective, verifiable evidence when you turn the key
in your car that it will start? You do you have objective, verifiable
evidence that when you get into your car, that you will arrive safely
at your final destination?

The dishonest bait'n'switch from the unevidenced and out of the
ordinary, that is in dispute. To the ordinary and evidenced that
isn't.
Whom do you imagine you are fooling, moron?

When you don't have concrete evidence for the above, why do you INSIST
on taking chances on eternity?

Nobody "is taking chances on eternity", moron. Do you honestly imagine
the threat of part of your mythology is going to persuade anybody that
the rest of it is correct?
After all, you should become a Hindu or a Buddhist so you can be
reincarnated and given another chance.

That is NOT the adult, rational, reasonable approach.

As opposed to you childish and unintyelligent gullibility?

3,What happen to people who died without the saviour Lord Jesus to catch
them when they are plunge into eternity?

They're dead.

And do you understand that you're betting your very life on that view?
And suppose you're wrong? Are you truly willing to take a chance on
waking up in hell if you're wrong? IF the Christian is wrong, we lose
NOTHING.

No, liar, nobody is betting anything.

If YOU are wrong, you lose EVERYTHING.

Are you really this stupid? USe your brain (if you've got one) and
factor in all the other religions and their deities that you don't
believe in. And all the possible ones you've never heard of including
those that reward their followers for not being so stupid.

We,the Christians,do no surmise,guess or speculate as to what will happen

non-christian when they die.We know and is sure that they will end up in
Hell and be tormented.The prospect is a horrible one,and the time span is
all eternity.

Please provide objective, verifiable evidence that hell exists and this will
happen.

Please provide objective, verifiable proof that YOU exist.

Dishonest lapse into solipsism. You fool nobody but yourself.

You are very childish. You choose to play Russian roulette with your
eternal soul.

A lie in each sentence, liar.

NOT smart!

Talking about yourself, moron?

We do not bluff,but speak the truths.

See above.

4,Why human suffer,in agony,in sickness and pain?

This doesn't happen to everyone. ***** happens.

We know it is a prelude to a greater sufferings after death.We do not

guess

or speculate.

See my comment about providing objective, verifiable evidence.

5, Who can you trust with your soul,for all Eternity?

Please prove the soul exists.

Yourself? Some great men,whom you called leaders?Your belief that it will
become nothingness?Charles Darwin?

See above.

The bible says:The whole world is in the hands of the god of this

world,the

Devil,and is seeking for people to devour.

So? There's no objective verifiable evidence that the bible is true or that
this devil character exists. Consequently, no reason to take it seriously.

Jesus declared that He came to save,and give abundantly life.By not

choosing

Jesus,and begging Him for mercy, one stay in sins and stay condemned.

See my above comments about providing objective, verifiable evidence.

Anytime you're ready.

User: "jw j"
Title: Re: QUESTIONS FOR NON-CHRISTIANS	28 Apr 2005 12:09:16 AM

On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:28:02 -0700, jw <j w<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:

"Frankie Lee" <S9641315@singnet.com.sg> wrote in message
news:d4o5g8$nct$1@reader01.singnet.com.sg...

1,Do you know what happen to you after death?

Nope.

If you do not know where you will go after death,and Christian can confirm
to you what would be your destiny,is there any reason to not accept their
version of truths?

The only way I'd buy it would be if they could provide objective, verifiable
evidence.

Nope. There is plenty of objective, verifiable evidence for

None of which you liars ever provide.

When you start off by lying and calling me a liar, you don't exactly
encourage further discussion.
jw
snip
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User: "Just Mark"
Title: Re: QUESTIONS FOR NON-CHRISTIANS	28 Apr 2005 09:56:27 AM

"jw @yahoo.com>" <j w<no> wrote in message
news:9ur071pphcfn0cjkh5btcuq21fm3abck8u@4ax.com...

On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:28:02 -0700, jw <j w<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:

"Frankie Lee" <S9641315@singnet.com.sg> wrote in message
news:d4o5g8$nct$1@reader01.singnet.com.sg...

1,Do you know what happen to you after death?

Nope.

If you do not know where you will go after death,and Christian can

confirm

to you what would be your destiny,is there any reason to not accept

their

version of truths?

The only way I'd buy it would be if they could provide objective,

verifiable

evidence.

Nope. There is plenty of objective, verifiable evidence for

None of which you liars ever provide.

When you start off by lying and calling me a liar, you don't exactly
encourage further discussion.

In other words, you're using the insult as a convenient excuse to dodge the
issue.
Do you really think nobody here sees through this ploy? Most of us stopped
using the same tactic in 5th grade.
JM
.

User: "jw j"
Title: Re: QUESTIONS FOR NON-CHRISTIANS	30 Apr 2005 08:38:12 AM

"jw @yahoo.com>" <j w<no> wrote in message
news:9ur071pphcfn0cjkh5btcuq21fm3abck8u@4ax.com...

On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:28:02 -0700, jw <j w<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:

"Frankie Lee" <S9641315@singnet.com.sg> wrote in message
news:d4o5g8$nct$1@reader01.singnet.com.sg...

1,Do you know what happen to you after death?

Nope.

If you do not know where you will go after death,and Christian can

confirm

to you what would be your destiny,is there any reason to not accept

their

version of truths?

The only way I'd buy it would be if they could provide objective,

verifiable

evidence.

Nope. There is plenty of objective, verifiable evidence for

None of which you liars ever provide.

When you start off by lying and calling me a liar, you don't exactly
encourage further discussion.

In other words, you're using the insult as a convenient excuse to dodge the
issue.

Do you really think nobody here sees through this ploy? Most of us stopped
using the same tactic in 5th grade.

JM
When you start off by lying and calling me a liar, and then insulting me, you don't exactly
encourage further discussion.

And since you chose to use a silly example, I will use a rational,
adult one.
You come up to me with a rock, a large one. You hit me up side the
head, and then as I lay bleeding and dazed on the ground, you say, "
Now that I have your attention, I wanted to ask you a question."
If you don't come to me with respect for me and my beliefs (whether
you agree or not), don't bother.
jw

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