On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 15:19:38 -0400, "Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net>
wrote:
"Rich Shumer" <RShumer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 19:39:42 +0100, Andrew
<thecroft@macunlimited.net> wrote:
On 2006-07-10 16:33:12 +0100, "Bill M"
<wmech@bellsouth.net> said:
The very foundation and basis for the Christian
religions are the Bibles.
The foundation and basis for the Christian
religion is Jesus.
Where is your evidence for a God Jesus other than in the Bibles???
There is all sorts of evidence for God's existance in the real world,
but it appears that Bill is not really interested in those. Jesus was
written about by several DIFFERENT writers in the New Testament, many
other people like Polycarp of Smyrna, Josephus, and others outside the
Bible.
But Bill doesn't know that. He just "opines" about a subject he has
almost no knowlege of at all.
Simple. Really simple. What a vacuum you must
live in to now understand (or try to understand)
that little in the bible isn't borrowed from other
religions. Don't you ever look for the truth?
And where is your objective verifiable evidence (the truth) that denies what
I have stated?
So far you haven't stated any "verifiable evidence." You have only
made a fool of yourself.
Engaging is silly vitriol is not evidence of anything but idiocy.
Just like spouting huge opinions about things you have no knowlege of,
huh?
The Bibles are a collection of documents by 66
or more authors of
unknown veracity,
You are assuming that as there are 66 books in the
Bible then there are
66 authors. This is not the case.
Read more perceptively. I said "66 or MORE"
In any case the exact number is of no consequence in considereing the
validity of the Bibles.
Pick what ever nuber you like.
He is pointing out that you are ignorant of your subject, something
that is VERY clear.
selected by church leaders from hundreds of
documents by many others,
on the subject of gods and religion. NONE of the
original Bible
documents exist. They have deteriorated into
non-existence many
centuries ago. They are all hand copies of
copies of translations etc.
of unknown authenticity, accuracy and veracity
created many centuries
before the invention of the printing press.
And? In a culture which doesn't have photocopiers
much greater emphasis
is placed on learning to copy accurately. There
are indications of
copying errors in the Bible, but by and large
these can be identified
by careful textual analysis. If you really want to
comment on this
authoritatively I recommend reading a through
biblical commentary and
get some grasp of the methods of textual analysis
used in Biblical
scholarship.
Duh? And your evidence is?
For you? None. You would first have to do some homework of your own.
.. .including ACTUALLY READING THE BOOK!
Myths, legends, fables, folklore and hearsay by
hundreds of sheep herders with
only a miniscule knowledge of the Universe and
science are not valid or
accurate evidence of the reality or existence of
any Gods or their
commands, desires and instructions.
And YOUR evidence is. . .? LOL! It is supposed to be okay for you to
make huge and inane statements of uneducated opinion with no evidence
at all, but WE are supposed to provide tons of evidence for you.
How stupid can you be? (How stupid IS THERE?)
So what would be valid or accurate evidence of the
reality or existence of God?
Why should it require knowledge of the Universe or
science to observe
such evidence or record it?
Why should God not use myths legends and folklore
to communicate their
instructions etc.
Your logic is non existent.
His logic is fine. It is YOURS that doesn't seem to appear to exist
anywhere here.
The Bibles are replete with numerous impossible
and implausible tales.
Indeed. Some of them so implausible that we may be
forced to treat them
non-literally as metaphors or parables. What do
you think? Is it
possible they might be intended that way?
Typical Bible wacko. Interpret the Bible text to fit your preconceived
beliefs.
In other words, you have no answer, so you call him names and lie
about him. Dishonest you are.
The objective fact is that all Christian
religions are founded on
nothing more than
myths, legends, fables, folklore and hearsay.
You have a way of repeating your (often
ill-informed) assertions and
claiming them as objective fact. The fact is that
the Bible contains
myths, legends and fables. It also contains
poetry, song, drama,
histories and lots more.
But where is the objective verifiable evidence that any 'real' god actually
exists and has created the
Bibles???
How would YOU know? YOU have never read the book, never studied the
history of it, its people, its documents, its languages, or anything
at all.
You have nothing but your uneducated, unread opinions. Just like a
drunk who thinks he is wise.
You are pathetic. Go read the book. THEN opine about it. Otherwise,
your ignorance shows and makes a fool out of you.
parakaleo
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