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18 Feb 2004 09:24:17 PM |
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Re: Religious kooks and Mel Gibson's "Passion"... |
Clave wrote in message
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From: "Clave"
That there is a church on every corner and I dont recall if he
actually
said
it, since there have been a chitload of posts in this thread,
So you're not sure if he made anything up there.
I'm sure he made up the statement that there is church on every corner,
cuz
there just isn't. Where I work, there isn't even a church for probably 5
miles, so he definately made up this statement.
You're not sure he said it, but he definitely made it up?
Tell ya what -- I've looked back in the thread, and I don't see him saying
*anything* like that. Why don't you see if you can.
Here's what Andres said:
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From: Andres64 <AndresC64DONTSPAM@excite.com>
Subject: Re: Religious kooks and Mel Gibson's "Passion"...
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 12:07:35 -0500
Message-ID: <c10657$1cs799$1@ID-189216.news.uni-berlin.de>
Tinas49ers wrote:
From: Andres64
Why do you care what they get in an uproar over and what they don't get
in
an uproar over?
Because they try to push their beliefs/views/standards on *everybody*.
So do those who think a porn shop on every corner would be a good thing.
Neither good nor bad. Sex is a fact of life, and, as a matter of fact,
life is not possible without sex. It would certainly be no worse that a
church on every corner as there is now.
************************************
- Rick
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18 Feb 2004 09:46:00 PM |
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"Rick" <Npl1O_SalphaP_AgeekM@juno.com> wrote in message
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Clave wrote in message
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From: "Clave"
That there is a church on every corner and I dont recall if he
actually
said
it, since there have been a chitload of posts in this thread,
So you're not sure if he made anything up there.
I'm sure he made up the statement that there is church on every corner,
cuz
there just isn't. Where I work, there isn't even a church for probably 5
miles, so he definately made up this statement.
You're not sure he said it, but he definitely made it up?
Tell ya what -- I've looked back in the thread, and I don't see him saying
*anything* like that. Why don't you see if you can.
Here's what Andres said:
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From: Andres64 <AndresC64DONTSPAM@excite.com>
Subject: Re: Religious kooks and Mel Gibson's "Passion"...
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 12:07:35 -0500
Message-ID: <c10657$1cs799$1@ID-189216.news.uni-berlin.de>
Tinas49ers wrote:
From: Andres64
Why do you care what they get in an uproar over and what they don't get
in
an uproar over?
Because they try to push their beliefs/views/standards on *everybody*.
So do those who think a porn shop on every corner would be a good thing.
Neither good nor bad. Sex is a fact of life, and, as a matter of fact,
life is not possible without sex. It would certainly be no worse that a
church on every corner as there is now.
************************************
Good God, is there no end to your dishonesty? You're saying that you made stuff
up *because* he made stuff up, and as evidence you cite yourself making ***** up
first?
Great bejeebus, but you suck at this.
Jim
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18 Feb 2004 11:29:22 PM |
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Clave wrote in message ...
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From: "Clave"
That there is a church on every corner and I dont recall if he
actually
said
it, since there have been a chitload of posts in this thread,
So you're not sure if he made anything up there.
I'm sure he made up the statement that there is church on every
corner,
cuz
there just isn't. Where I work, there isn't even a church for probably
5
miles, so he definately made up this statement.
You're not sure he said it, but he definitely made it up?
Tell ya what -- I've looked back in the thread, and I don't see him
saying
*anything* like that. Why don't you see if you can.
Here's what Andres said:
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From: Andres64 <AndresC64DONTSPAM@excite.com>
Subject: Re: Religious kooks and Mel Gibson's "Passion"...
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 12:07:35 -0500
Message-ID: <c10657$1cs799$1@ID-189216.news.uni-berlin.de>
Tinas49ers wrote:
From: Andres64
Why do you care what they get in an uproar over and what they don't
get
in
an uproar over?
Because they try to push their beliefs/views/standards on *everybody*.
So do those who think a porn shop on every corner would be a good
thing.
Neither good nor bad. Sex is a fact of life, and, as a matter of fact,
life is not possible without sex. It would certainly be no worse that a
church on every corner as there is now.
************************************
Good God, is there no end to your dishonesty? You're saying that you made
stuff
up
Where in the world did I say that?
*because* he made stuff up, and as evidence you cite yourself making *****
up
first?
Where did I cite myself making up stuff first?
Great bejeebus, but you suck at this.
What are you babbling about? And why the hostility? I provided a cite where
Andre said there was a church on every corner. I thought you said he didn't
say that, or that you couldn't find it.
Maybe you should just put me in your killfile if you can't be reasonable or
civil.
- Rick
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18 Feb 2004 11:23:38 PM |
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"Rick" <Npl1O_SalphaP_AgeekM@juno.com> wrote in message
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Clave wrote in message ...
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From: "Clave"
That there is a church on every corner and I dont recall if he
actually
said
it, since there have been a chitload of posts in this thread,
So you're not sure if he made anything up there.
I'm sure he made up the statement that there is church on every
corner,
cuz
there just isn't. Where I work, there isn't even a church for probably
5
miles, so he definately made up this statement.
You're not sure he said it, but he definitely made it up?
Tell ya what -- I've looked back in the thread, and I don't see him
saying
*anything* like that. Why don't you see if you can.
Here's what Andres said:
************************************
From: Andres64 <AndresC64DONTSPAM@excite.com>
Subject: Re: Religious kooks and Mel Gibson's "Passion"...
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 12:07:35 -0500
Message-ID: <c10657$1cs799$1@ID-189216.news.uni-berlin.de>
Tinas49ers wrote:
From: Andres64
Why do you care what they get in an uproar over and what they don't
get
in
an uproar over?
Because they try to push their beliefs/views/standards on *everybody*.
So do those who think a porn shop on every corner would be a good
thing.
Neither good nor bad. Sex is a fact of life, and, as a matter of fact,
life is not possible without sex. It would certainly be no worse that a
church on every corner as there is now.
************************************
Good God, is there no end to your dishonesty? You're saying that you made
stuff
up
Where in the world did I say that?
Never mind. I thought Tina wrote that.
Even so, the last sentence of Andres' post doesn't parse. I don't know what it
means, and neither do you.
Jim
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19 Feb 2004 12:15:04 AM |
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Clave wrote in message ...
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From: "Clave"
That there is a church on every corner and I dont recall if he
actually
said
it, since there have been a chitload of posts in this thread,
So you're not sure if he made anything up there.
I'm sure he made up the statement that there is church on every
corner,
cuz
there just isn't. Where I work, there isn't even a church for
probably
5
miles, so he definately made up this statement.
You're not sure he said it, but he definitely made it up?
Tell ya what -- I've looked back in the thread, and I don't see him
saying
*anything* like that. Why don't you see if you can.
Here's what Andres said:
************************************
From: Andres64 <AndresC64DONTSPAM@excite.com>
Subject: Re: Religious kooks and Mel Gibson's "Passion"...
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 12:07:35 -0500
Message-ID: <c10657$1cs799$1@ID-189216.news.uni-berlin.de>
Tinas49ers wrote:
From: Andres64
Why do you care what they get in an uproar over and what they
don't
get
in
an uproar over?
Because they try to push their beliefs/views/standards on
*everybody*.
So do those who think a porn shop on every corner would be a good
thing.
Neither good nor bad. Sex is a fact of life, and, as a matter of
fact,
life is not possible without sex. It would certainly be no worse that
a
church on every corner as there is now.
************************************
Good God, is there no end to your dishonesty? You're saying that you
made
stuff
up
Where in the world did I say that?
Never mind. I thought Tina wrote that.
Even so, the last sentence of Andres' post doesn't parse. I don't know
what it
means, and neither do you.
Unless he made another glaring error than I missed, I'm sure I know exactly
that it means. It seemed obvious to me that he meant "than" instead of
"that", in which case it's obvious that it means. Was the typo the reason
you said it doesn't parse? If not, than I don't know what to make of all
this.
- Rick
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| User: "Clave" |
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19 Feb 2004 12:46:38 AM |
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"Rick" <Npl1O_SalphaP_AgeekM@juno.com> wrote in message
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Clave wrote in message ...
"Rick" <Npl1O_SalphaP_AgeekM@juno.com> wrote in message
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Clave wrote in message ...
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From: "Clave"
That there is a church on every corner and I dont recall if he
actually
said
it, since there have been a chitload of posts in this thread,
So you're not sure if he made anything up there.
I'm sure he made up the statement that there is church on every
corner,
cuz
there just isn't. Where I work, there isn't even a church for
probably
5
miles, so he definately made up this statement.
You're not sure he said it, but he definitely made it up?
Tell ya what -- I've looked back in the thread, and I don't see him
saying
*anything* like that. Why don't you see if you can.
Here's what Andres said:
************************************
From: Andres64 <AndresC64DONTSPAM@excite.com>
Subject: Re: Religious kooks and Mel Gibson's "Passion"...
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 12:07:35 -0500
Message-ID: <c10657$1cs799$1@ID-189216.news.uni-berlin.de>
Tinas49ers wrote:
From: Andres64
Why do you care what they get in an uproar over and what they
don't
get
in
an uproar over?
Because they try to push their beliefs/views/standards on
*everybody*.
So do those who think a porn shop on every corner would be a good
thing.
Neither good nor bad. Sex is a fact of life, and, as a matter of
fact,
life is not possible without sex. It would certainly be no worse that
a
church on every corner as there is now.
************************************
Good God, is there no end to your dishonesty? You're saying that you
made
stuff
up
Where in the world did I say that?
Never mind. I thought Tina wrote that.
Even so, the last sentence of Andres' post doesn't parse. I don't know
what it
means, and neither do you.
Unless he made another glaring error than I missed, I'm sure I know exactly
that it means.
Cute, but unworthy.
It seemed obvious to me that he meant "than" instead of
"that", in which case it's obvious that it means. Was the typo the reason
you said it doesn't parse? If not, than I don't know what to make of all
this.
Assuming that, wouldn't you agree that Andres' remark was hyperbole in the face
of nonsense? And anyway, Tina's blaming her remark on something that came after
is *still* horseshit.
Jim
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19 Feb 2004 01:16:34 AM |
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Clave wrote in message
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"Rick" <Npl1O_SalphaP_AgeekM@juno.com> wrote in message
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Clave wrote in message ...
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From: "Clave"
That there is a church on every corner and I dont recall if
he
actually
said
it, since there have been a chitload of posts in this thread,
So you're not sure if he made anything up there.
I'm sure he made up the statement that there is church on every
corner,
cuz
there just isn't. Where I work, there isn't even a church for
probably
5
miles, so he definately made up this statement.
You're not sure he said it, but he definitely made it up?
Tell ya what -- I've looked back in the thread, and I don't see
him
saying
*anything* like that. Why don't you see if you can.
Here's what Andres said:
************************************
From: Andres64 <AndresC64DONTSPAM@excite.com>
Subject: Re: Religious kooks and Mel Gibson's "Passion"...
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 12:07:35 -0500
Message-ID: <c10657$1cs799$1@ID-189216.news.uni-berlin.de>
Tinas49ers wrote:
From: Andres64
Why do you care what they get in an uproar over and what they
don't
get
in
an uproar over?
Because they try to push their beliefs/views/standards on
*everybody*.
So do those who think a porn shop on every corner would be a good
thing.
Neither good nor bad. Sex is a fact of life, and, as a matter of
fact,
life is not possible without sex. It would certainly be no worse
that
a
church on every corner as there is now.
************************************
Good God, is there no end to your dishonesty? You're saying that you
made
stuff
up
Where in the world did I say that?
Never mind. I thought Tina wrote that.
Even so, the last sentence of Andres' post doesn't parse. I don't know
what it
means, and neither do you.
Unless he made another glaring error than I missed, I'm sure I know
exactly
that it means.
Cute, but unworthy.
It seemed obvious to me that he meant "than" instead of
"that", in which case it's obvious that it means. Was the typo the reason
you said it doesn't parse? If not, than I don't know what to make of all
this.
Assuming that, wouldn't you agree that Andres' remark was hyperbole in the
face
of nonsense? And anyway, Tina's blaming her remark on something that came
after
is *still* horseshit.
Andres' premise that some people don't like sex is pure nonsense. I'm still
waiting for him to condemn Muffy for being a Member of the Religious Right
because of her comments about sex. I think she's a closet fundie.
- Rick
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19 Feb 2004 01:54:00 AM |
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"Rick" <Npl1O_SalphaP_AgeekM@juno.com> wrote in message
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<...context mutually destroyed before I snipped it...>
Andres' premise that some people don't like sex is pure nonsense.
Unless I missed another post, I don't think that was the premise at all. It
seems self-evident to me that at least the *vocal* component of the religious
right gets way more ***** about TV sex than TV violence. Samey-same with
movies. Know what it takes for a movie to get an R for sexual content? A bare
nipple. Know what it takes for a movie to get an R for violence? Neither do I.
(Although Robocop initally got an X just for violence, and I *do* understand why
in that case, but ***** was that a good movie.)
Anyway, what was I talking about?
I'm still
waiting for him to condemn Muffy for being a Member of the Religious Right
because of her comments about sex. I think she's a closet fundie.
I don't think she's all that closeted.
Jim
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19 Feb 2004 12:41:58 PM |
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Rick wrote:
Clave wrote in message ...
"Rick" <Npl1O_SalphaP_AgeekM@juno.com> wrote in message
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Clave wrote in message
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"Tinas49ers" <tinas49ers@aol.com> wrote in message
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From: "Clave"
That there is a church on every corner and I dont recall if he
actually
said
it, since there have been a chitload of posts in this thread,
So you're not sure if he made anything up there.
I'm sure he made up the statement that there is church on every
corner,
cuz
there just isn't. Where I work, there isn't even a church for probably
5
miles, so he definately made up this statement.
You're not sure he said it, but he definitely made it up?
Tell ya what -- I've looked back in the thread, and I don't see him
saying
*anything* like that. Why don't you see if you can.
Here's what Andres said:
************************************
From: Andres64 <AndresC64DONTSPAM@excite.com>
Subject: Re: Religious kooks and Mel Gibson's "Passion"...
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 12:07:35 -0500
Message-ID: <c10657$1cs799$1@ID-189216.news.uni-berlin.de>
Tinas49ers wrote:
From: Andres64
Why do you care what they get in an uproar over and what they don't
get
in
an uproar over?
Because they try to push their beliefs/views/standards on *everybody*.
So do those who think a porn shop on every corner would be a good
thing.
Neither good nor bad. Sex is a fact of life, and, as a matter of fact,
life is not possible without sex. It would certainly be no worse that a
church on every corner as there is now.
************************************
Good God, is there no end to your dishonesty? You're saying that you made
stuff
up
Where in the world did I say that?
*because* he made stuff up, and as evidence you cite yourself making *****
up
first?
Where did I cite myself making up stuff first?
Great bejeebus, but you suck at this.
What are you babbling about? And why the hostility? I provided a cite where
Andre said there was a church on every corner.
It's called hyperbole. Look it up.
--
Andres64
a.a. #1624
Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we
fall.
- Confucius
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19 Feb 2004 02:09:31 PM |
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Andres64 wrote in message ...
Rick wrote:
Clave wrote in message ...
[snip]
Great bejeebus, but you suck at this.
What are you babbling about? And why the hostility? I provided a cite
where
Andre said there was a church on every corner.
It's called hyperbole. Look it up.
As I've explained to Jim - and he still doesn't seem to get it - I was
merely documenting *what* was said. It was blindingly obvious that it was
hyperbole, but the *why* of what you said was not in question at that point.
- Rick
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19 Feb 2004 02:55:21 PM |
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"Rick" <Npl1O_SalphaP_AgeekM@juno.com> wrote in message
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Andres64 wrote in message ...
Rick wrote:
Clave wrote in message ...
[snip]
Great bejeebus, but you suck at this.
What are you babbling about? And why the hostility? I provided a cite
where
Andre said there was a church on every corner.
It's called hyperbole. Look it up.
As I've explained to Jim - and he still doesn't seem to get it -
I get it just fine. I even understand the sequence of remarks, which I don't
think *you* get.
Jim
I was
merely documenting *what* was said. It was blindingly obvious that it was
hyperbole, but the *why* of what you said was not in question at that point.
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19 Feb 2004 03:17:40 PM |
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Clave wrote in message
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"Rick" <Npl1O_SalphaP_AgeekM@juno.com> wrote in message
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Andres64 wrote in message ...
Rick wrote:
Clave wrote in message ...
[snip]
Great bejeebus, but you suck at this.
What are you babbling about? And why the hostility? I provided a cite
where
Andre said there was a church on every corner.
It's called hyperbole. Look it up.
As I've explained to Jim - and he still doesn't seem to get it -
I get it just fine. I even understand the sequence of remarks, which I
don't
think *you* get.
I get it perfectly. And you keep trying to change the subject, as I
explained below.
Jim
I was
merely documenting *what* was said. It was blindingly obvious that it was
hyperbole, but the *why* of what you said was not in question at that
point.
- Rick
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