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"Nomen Nescio" |
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25 Mar 2007 07:00:07 PM |
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Re: Republican Party in Decline due 2 Bush |
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007, "Karl" <karlwtz@yahoo.com> wrote:
The gap between people who identify as Democrats and identify as Republicans
is larger than it has ever been!
50% of the people polled by Pew said they were DEMOCRATS and a meer 35%
identified themselves as Republicans!
Here's a nice bit of news:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/23/AR2007032301417.html
New Study Offers More Bad News For GOP
The midterm elections dispelled for the time being the notion that the
Republican Party had established an enduring grip on power -- and now a new
study sees some dark clouds over the future of the GOP.
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While I have the greatest respect for Newt Gingrich, who is
likely to pull the proverbial rabbit out of his hat and get
the last-minute GOP nomination (e.g. "Gingrich-Rice 2008"?),
there is no question that Conservatives across America are
extremely disappointed with the GW Bush administration, and
with the [R]epublican party in general, for selling out to
CFRists/ivory-tower corporations/lawyers/bankers' interests.
Greed and Self-worship are *NOT* going to earn the GOP many
votes in the next election, most certainly not enough to win.
Frankly, I wouldn't want to be in Gingrich's shoes right now,
given the continually eroding support from former Republican-
voting Conservatives. The GOP has betrayed & disenfranchised
their Conservative voting base. Can they win us back...maybe?
Try as they might, tabloid television "news" aren't going to
convince Conservatives to get out and vote in the [R] column
on Tuesday November 4th, 2008. Promises are dead in the water.
Show me don't tell me. Conservatives expect _results_ already.
I mean, look at what's happened to FOXNEWS ever since the [R]s
handed the [D]s both Houses of Congress in the 2006 mid-terms.
And not just FNC, but also to CNN, and other big-money "news"
media. It's become Tabloid Television. Scarcely any real news
to be found on any channel. All diversions and obfuscations,
gratuitous mockeries and inept criticisms: "News Gone Wild!"
E.g. whether you agree with Al Gore or not, or accept global
warming, or not, when every "news" channel on broadcast and
cable television (FNC, CNN, et al) cut off his microphone to
the television viewing audience during his recent testimony
before Congress last Wednesday, obviously as not to incite a
"panic" (similar to how Big Brother steps in to quash WHO &
CDC reports of viral outbreaks, UFOs etc.), to keep that oil
flowing, keep those "wheels of progress" amply greased, etc.,
such blatant intervention is a real turnoff to independently-
minded voters, regardless of present or past political party
affiliations.
The GOP needs to declare full-scale, all-out, no-holds-barred
*Warfare* against the Anti-Christian Liberal Atheists, if the
GOP expects to bring Conservatives to the polls November 2008.
My advice to whomever runs on the GOP ticket: STOP treating
your voting base like we're brain-dead morons! The Atheists
treat us that way already 24/7/365.2422, and we sure as Hell
don't need *you* treating us that way, too. Maybe the fundies
will vote for you right or wrong, good or evil, since they're
so utterly brainwashed to begin with. But that's not going to
put the [R]s over the top in 2008. Contrary to popular media-
controlled "opinion", some Conservatives can actually *think*.
Do what thou wilt,
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/
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| User: "donGoliano" |
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26 Mar 2007 12:25:35 AM |
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"Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
news:4c389c59604ae0788b5cae572a439019@dizum.com...
*snip*
Contrary to popular media-
controlled "opinion", some Conservatives can actually *think*.
Oh, yeah? Since when?
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| User: "Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer" |
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01 Apr 2007 04:04:47 PM |
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"NotSoNutSo" wrote:
May ***** you all!
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I could say "spoken like a true Anti-Christian Liberal Atheist", but
I won't. Suffice to admit that America & very nearly the whole fourth
empire is doomed already, and there's nothing that you, I, nor anyone
else can do to postpone it...much less prevent it! It is foreordained.
^^^^^^^^^^^^
In Vigilance,
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/
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| User: "Lawrence Glickman" |
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01 Apr 2007 04:25:58 PM |
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On 1 Apr 2007 23:04:47 +0200, Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer
<anonymous@remailer.cyberiade.it> wrote:
"NotSoNutSo" wrote:
May ***** you all!
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I could say "spoken like a true Anti-Christian Liberal Atheist", but
I won't. Suffice to admit that America & very nearly the whole fourth
empire is doomed already, and there's nothing that you, I, nor anyone
else can do to postpone it...much less prevent it! It is foreordained.
^^^^^^^^^^^^
In Vigilance,
Daniel Joseph Min
I don't know that anything is foreordained, but the slide down the
slippery slope for the USA began under Lyndon Johnson and his "Great
Society" designs. Some might say it began even before that under
Harry Truman, and escalated under Franklin D Roosevelt.
Whatever the case, things are going to ***** in a handbasket and nobody
seems to be able to turn things around.
Lg
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| User: "Lawrence Glickman" |
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01 Apr 2007 04:32:20 PM |
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On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 16:25:58 -0500, Lawrence Glickman
<Lawrence_Glickman@comcast.net> wrote:
On 1 Apr 2007 23:04:47 +0200, Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer
<anonymous@remailer.cyberiade.it> wrote:
"NotSoNutSo" wrote:
May ***** you all!
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I could say "spoken like a true Anti-Christian Liberal Atheist", but
I won't. Suffice to admit that America & very nearly the whole fourth
empire is doomed already, and there's nothing that you, I, nor anyone
else can do to postpone it...much less prevent it! It is foreordained.
^^^^^^^^^^^^
In Vigilance,
Daniel Joseph Min
I don't know that anything is foreordained, but the slide down the
slippery slope for the USA began under Lyndon Johnson and his "Great
Society" designs. Some might say it began even before that under
Harry Truman, and escalated under Franklin D Roosevelt.
Whatever the case, things are going to ***** in a handbasket and nobody
seems to be able to turn things around.
Lg
I've got that backwards. FDR came first, THEN Truman. Jeeze.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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01 Apr 2007 09:31:54 PM |
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On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 16:32:20 -0500, Lawrence Glickman
<Lawrence_Glickman@comcast.net> wrote:
Some might say it began even before that under
Harry Truman, and escalated under Franklin D Roosevelt.
I've got that backwards. FDR came first, THEN Truman. Jeeze.
Getting OUT of the depression made things worse than being IN it?
You evidently weren't alive during any of that, or the 50s, or
probably the 60s or ...
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| User: "Lawrence Glickman" |
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01 Apr 2007 10:08:50 PM |
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On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 22:31:54 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 16:32:20 -0500, Lawrence Glickman
<Lawrence_Glickman@comcast.net> wrote:
Some might say it began even before that under
Harry Truman, and escalated under Franklin D Roosevelt.
I've got that backwards. FDR came first, THEN Truman. Jeeze.
Getting OUT of the depression made things worse than being IN it?
You evidently weren't alive during any of that, or the 50s, or
probably the 60s or ...
I read both of your posts. I'm wondering if you're alive right now.
I'm going to have to charge you a fee for educating you if you can't
find out for yourself the different *programs* that these
administrations created out of thin air to try to stimulate the
economy.
I think the worst of it has been the recent manifestation of
globalization, which is the death knell for America. How does a
laborer in the USA, who is making $40,000/year in a factory, compete
with a laborer in Indonesia that is making $365/year?
IOW, if you can't figure this stuff out on your own, and I have to
become your Tutor, me fee is going to have to be paid in advance.
Lg
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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02 Apr 2007 07:33:54 AM |
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On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 22:08:50 -0500, Lawrence Glickman
<Lawrence_Glickman@comcast.net> wrote:
On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 22:31:54 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 16:32:20 -0500, Lawrence Glickman
<Lawrence_Glickman@comcast.net> wrote:
Some might say it began even before that under
Harry Truman, and escalated under Franklin D Roosevelt.
I've got that backwards. FDR came first, THEN Truman. Jeeze.
Getting OUT of the depression made things worse than being IN it?
You evidently weren't alive during any of that, or the 50s, or
probably the 60s or ...
I read both of your posts. I'm wondering if you're alive right now.
I'm going to have to charge you a fee for educating you if you can't
find out for yourself the different *programs* that these
administrations created out of thin air to try to stimulate the
economy.
While I agree that WWII was worse than no war, people dying due to
Hoover's mismanagement was a lot worse than Roosevelt's giving the
people government jobs.
I think the worst of it has been the recent manifestation of
globalization
Created by industry, not government.
How does a
laborer in the USA, who is making $40,000/year in a factory, compete
with a laborer in Indonesia that is making $365/year?
How do you blame industry taking advantage in the difference in cost
of living on the government?
IOW, if you can't figure this stuff out on your own, and I have to
become your Tutor, me fee is going to have to be paid in advance.
You'll first have to show me that you have more than a knee-jerk "my
teacher told me" knowledge of the times I experienced personally.
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| User: "strabo" |
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02 Apr 2007 10:02:53 AM |
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Al Klein wrote:
On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 22:08:50 -0500, Lawrence Glickman
<Lawrence_Glickman@comcast.net> wrote:
On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 22:31:54 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 16:32:20 -0500, Lawrence Glickman
<Lawrence_Glickman@comcast.net> wrote:
Some might say it began even before that under
Harry Truman, and escalated under Franklin D Roosevelt.
I've got that backwards. FDR came first, THEN Truman. Jeeze.
Getting OUT of the depression made things worse than being IN it?
You evidently weren't alive during any of that, or the 50s, or
probably the 60s or ...
I read both of your posts. I'm wondering if you're alive right now.
I'm going to have to charge you a fee for educating you if you can't
find out for yourself the different *programs* that these
administrations created out of thin air to try to stimulate the
economy.
While I agree that WWII was worse than no war, people dying due to
Hoover's mismanagement was a lot worse than Roosevelt's giving the
people government jobs.
I think the worst of it has been the recent manifestation of
globalization
Created by industry, not government.
Created by thieves and liars with the help of governments.
How does a
laborer in the USA, who is making $40,000/year in a factory, compete
with a laborer in Indonesia that is making $365/year?
How do you blame industry taking advantage in the difference in cost
of living on the government?
Unless you are a globalist, a socialist bent on destroying national
sovereignty and self-sufficiency, that is a stupid question.
The popular perception is that American businessmen woke up one morning
and found that it had no choice but to transfer America's manufacturing
industry to China and outsource IT jobs to India. That is not true.
The current situation was begun years ago with the creation of
'free trade' organizations by internationalists whose goal
was to force the creation of a market economy in spite of domestic
resistance and the obvious damage this would do to societies and
local businesses.
Modern China was created over the past 30 years by Americans and
Europeans seeking money and power. Billions of dollars and the best
technology available went to this nation of rice fields and fishermen in
order to create a consumer market. Aside from the obvious security and
future-war potential, building up China was at the expense of US.
Importing goods for resale is one thing. Government gets a little money
in taxes, the public has a choice that it might not otherwise have, and
American are employed in the process.
Moving manufacturing to another country is different. In this case
everything is lost. It causes the loss of domestic jobs directly and
indirectly supportive of the manufacturing operation, local, state
and federal taxes, and deprives Americans of self-sufficiency.
These corporations, which bill themselves as 'multi-national', typically
act as independent agents even though they lobby American politicians
for privileges while threatening to withhold products from American
consumers if their demands are not met.
Outsourcing jobs is another onerous practice which has cost
Americans hundreds of thousands of jobs.
How does one find fault with selling out one's country and culture
in order to make a buck? Easy. Just connect the dots.
IOW, if you can't figure this stuff out on your own, and I have to
become your Tutor, me fee is going to have to be paid in advance.
You'll first have to show me that you have more than a knee-jerk "my
teacher told me" knowledge of the times I experienced personally.
The bill for global socialism will soon be in the mail though I
doubt you'll have the means to pay it.
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| User: "Too_Many_Tools" |
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02 Apr 2007 10:07:44 PM |
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On Apr 2, 10:02 am, strabo <str...@flashlight.net> wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 22:08:50 -0500, Lawrence Glickman
<Lawrence_Glick...@comcast.net> wrote:
On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 22:31:54 -0400, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 16:32:20 -0500, Lawrence Glickman
<Lawrence_Glick...@comcast.net> wrote:
Some might say it began even before that under
Harry Truman, and escalated under Franklin D Roosevelt.
I've got that backwards. FDR came first, THEN Truman. Jeeze.
Getting OUT of the depression made things worse than being IN it?
You evidently weren't alive during any of that, or the 50s, or
probably the 60s or ...
I read both of your posts. I'm wondering if you're alive right now.
I'm going to have to charge you a fee for educating you if you can't
find out for yourself the different *programs* that these
administrations created out of thin air to try to stimulate the
economy.
While I agree that WWII was worse than no war, people dying due to
Hoover's mismanagement was a lot worse than Roosevelt's giving the
people government jobs.
I think the worst of it has been the recent manifestation of
globalization
Created by industry, not government.
Created by thieves and liars with the help of governments.
How does a
laborer in the USA, who is making $40,000/year in a factory, compete
with a laborer in Indonesia that is making $365/year?
How do you blame industry taking advantage in the difference in cost
of living on the government?
Unless you are a globalist, a socialist bent on destroying national
sovereignty and self-sufficiency, that is a stupid question.
The popular perception is that American businessmen woke up one morning
and found that it had no choice but to transfer America's manufacturing
industry to China and outsource IT jobs to India. That is not true.
The current situation was begun years ago with the creation of
'free trade' organizations by internationalists whose goal
was to force the creation of a market economy in spite of domestic
resistance and the obvious damage this would do to societies and
local businesses.
Modern China was created over the past 30 years by Americans and
Europeans seeking money and power. Billions of dollars and the best
technology available went to this nation of rice fields and fishermen in
order to create a consumer market. Aside from the obvious security and
future-war potential, building up China was at the expense of US.
Importing goods for resale is one thing. Government gets a little money
in taxes, the public has a choice that it might not otherwise have, and
American are employed in the process.
Moving manufacturing to another country is different. In this case
everything is lost. It causes the loss of domestic jobs directly and
indirectly supportive of the manufacturing operation, local, state
and federal taxes, and deprives Americans of self-sufficiency.
These corporations, which bill themselves as 'multi-national', typically
act as independent agents even though they lobby American politicians
for privileges while threatening to withhold products from American
consumers if their demands are not met.
Outsourcing jobs is another onerous practice which has cost
Americans hundreds of thousands of jobs.
How does one find fault with selling out one's country and culture
in order to make a buck? Easy. Just connect the dots.
IOW, if you can't figure this stuff out on your own, and I have to
become your Tutor, me fee is going to have to be paid in advance.
You'll first have to show me that you have more than a knee-jerk "my
teacher told me" knowledge of the times I experienced personally.
The bill for global socialism will soon be in the mail though I
doubt you'll have the means to pay it.
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Outsourcing jobs is another onerous practice which has cost
Americans hundreds of thousands of jobs.
Try tens of millions of jobs...just under Bush.
The outsourcing of millions of jobs during the last recession and
during wartime is treason.
TMT
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| User: "tirebiter" |
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02 Apr 2007 09:26:27 AM |
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On Apr 2, 8:33 am, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 22:08:50 -0500, Lawrence Glickman
<Lawrence_Glick...@comcast.net> wrote:
On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 22:31:54 -0400, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 16:32:20 -0500, Lawrence Glickman
<Lawrence_Glick...@comcast.net> wrote:
Some might say it began even before that under
Harry Truman, and escalated under Franklin D Roosevelt.
I've got that backwards. FDR came first, THEN Truman. Jeeze.
Getting OUT of the depression made things worse than being IN it?
You evidently weren't alive during any of that, or the 50s, or
probably the 60s or ...
I read both of your posts. I'm wondering if you're alive right now.
I'm going to have to charge you a fee for educating you if you can't
find out for yourself the different *programs* that these
administrations created out of thin air to try to stimulate the
economy.
While I agree that WWII was worse than no war, people dying due to
Hoover's mismanagement was a lot worse than Roosevelt's giving the
people government jobs.
I think the worst of it has been the recent manifestation of
globalization
Created by industry, not government.
How does a
laborer in the USA, who is making $40,000/year in a factory, compete
with a laborer in Indonesia that is making $365/year?
How do you blame industry taking advantage in the difference in cost
of living on the government?
IOW, if you can't figure this stuff out on your own, and I have to
become your Tutor, me fee is going to have to be paid in advance.
You'll first have to show me that you have more than a knee-jerk "my
teacher told me" knowledge of the times I experienced personally.
I'm reminded of this short clip. Helps put presidential social
programs in perspective:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=susZ2ceEHwk
WARNING: This video contains explicit scenes of Ann Coulter (getting
her ***** handed to her).
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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02 Apr 2007 05:20:05 PM |
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On 2 Apr 2007 07:26:27 -0700, "tirebiter" <dontspamme666@bigfoot.com>
wrote:
I'm reminded of this short clip. Helps put presidential social
programs in perspective:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=susZ2ceEHwk
WARNING: This video contains explicit scenes of Ann Coulter (getting
her ***** handed to her).
It's good to keep things in perspective. Man Coulter is to
intelligence what Bush is to nuclear weapons.
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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02 Apr 2007 07:38:25 PM |
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in article 7ms013h2sgcfub3am0kg4v5u0mri3k19kp@4ax.com, Lawrence Glickman at
Lawrence_Glickman@comcast.net wrote on 4/1/07 11:08 PM:
On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 22:31:54 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 16:32:20 -0500, Lawrence Glickman
<Lawrence_Glickman@comcast.net> wrote:
Some might say it began even before that under
Harry Truman, and escalated under Franklin D Roosevelt.
I've got that backwards. FDR came first, THEN Truman. Jeeze.
Getting OUT of the depression made things worse than being IN it?
You evidently weren't alive during any of that, or the 50s, or
probably the 60s or ...
I read both of your posts. I'm wondering if you're alive right now.
I'm going to have to charge you a fee for educating you if you can't
find out for yourself the different *programs* that these
administrations created out of thin air to try to stimulate the
economy.
I think the worst of it has been the recent manifestation of
globalization, which is the death knell for America. How does a
laborer in the USA, who is making $40,000/year in a factory, compete
with a laborer in Indonesia that is making $365/year?
But what do YOU offer, other than saying the American should work
for $365/year?
Paul
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| User: "Lawrence Glickman" |
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02 Apr 2007 07:44:28 PM |
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On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 20:38:25 -0400, Paul Duca <p.duca@comcast.net>
wrote:
in article 7ms013h2sgcfub3am0kg4v5u0mri3k19kp@4ax.com, Lawrence Glickman at
Lawrence_Glickman@comcast.net wrote on 4/1/07 11:08 PM:
On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 22:31:54 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 16:32:20 -0500, Lawrence Glickman
<Lawrence_Glickman@comcast.net> wrote:
Some might say it began even before that under
Harry Truman, and escalated under Franklin D Roosevelt.
I've got that backwards. FDR came first, THEN Truman. Jeeze.
Getting OUT of the depression made things worse than being IN it?
You evidently weren't alive during any of that, or the 50s, or
probably the 60s or ...
I read both of your posts. I'm wondering if you're alive right now.
I'm going to have to charge you a fee for educating you if you can't
find out for yourself the different *programs* that these
administrations created out of thin air to try to stimulate the
economy.
I think the worst of it has been the recent manifestation of
globalization, which is the death knell for America. How does a
laborer in the USA, who is making $40,000/year in a factory, compete
with a laborer in Indonesia that is making $365/year?
But what do YOU offer, other than saying the American should work
for $365/year?
Paul
Listen, if you want MY guidance, you elect ME President. Short of
that, anything that I can say or do adds up to less than Zero. I have
lots of ideas, but what's the point of enumerating them. It is a
waste of time.
Lg
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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01 Apr 2007 09:30:12 PM |
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On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 16:25:58 -0500, Lawrence Glickman
<Lawrence_Glickman@comcast.net> wrote:
Some might say it began even before that under
Harry Truman, and escalated under Franklin D Roosevelt.
Right after the invention of the Time Inversion Machine?
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| Title: Re: Republican Party in Decline due 2 Bush |
26 Mar 2007 08:19:03 AM |
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My advice to whomever runs on the GOP ticket: STOP treating
your voting base like we're brain-dead morons! The Atheists
treat us that way already 24/7/365.2422, and we sure as Hell
don't need *you* treating us that way, too. Maybe the fundies
will vote for you right or wrong, good or evil, since they're
so utterly brainwashed to begin with. But that's not going to
put the [R]s over the top in 2008. Contrary to popular media-
controlled "opinion", some Conservatives can actually *think*.
Neither the [D]s or the [R]s represent anything I want to vote for.
IMHO the folks of this country seem headed for financial and moral
ruin and the political parties are but a reflection of that.
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| User: "Gunner" |
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26 Mar 2007 01:08:11 PM |
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On 26 Mar 2007 06:19:03 -0700, wrote:
My advice to whomever runs on the GOP ticket: STOP treating
your voting base like we're brain-dead morons! The Atheists
treat us that way already 24/7/365.2422, and we sure as Hell
don't need *you* treating us that way, too. Maybe the fundies
will vote for you right or wrong, good or evil, since they're
so utterly brainwashed to begin with. But that's not going to
put the [R]s over the top in 2008. Contrary to popular media-
controlled "opinion", some Conservatives can actually *think*.
Neither the [D]s or the [R]s represent anything I want to vote for.
IMHO the folks of this country seem headed for financial and moral
ruin and the political parties are but a reflection of that.
Define "moral"
Gunner
The aim of untold millions is to be free to do exactly as they choose
and for someone else to pay when things go wrong.
In the past few decades, a peculiar and distinctive psychology
has emerged in England. Gone are the civility, sturdy independence,
and admirable stoicism that carried the English through the war years
.. It has been replaced by a constant whine of excuses, complaints,
and special pleading. The collapse of the British character has been
as swift and complete as the collapse of British power.
Theodore Dalrymple,
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| User: "Nomen Nescio" |
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26 Mar 2007 08:40:04 AM |
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On 26 Mar 2007, wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote:
My advice to whomever runs on the GOP ticket: STOP treating
your voting base like we're brain-dead morons! The Atheists
treat us that way already 24/7/365.2422, and we sure as Hell
don't need *you* treating us that way, too. Maybe the fundies
will vote for you right or wrong, good or evil, since they're
so utterly brainwashed to begin with. But that's not going to
put the [R]s over the top in 2008. Contrary to popular media-
controlled "opinion", some Conservatives can actually *think*.
Neither the [D]s or the [R]s represent anything I want to vote for.
IMHO the folks of this country seem headed for financial and moral
ruin and the political parties are but a reflection of that.
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I'll be the first to agree that it definitely seems that way.
But to equate finance in the same sentence with morality?
Remember, Jesus had not where to lay his head [Luke 9:58].
In Vigilance,
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/
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| User: "Bill Steele" |
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26 Mar 2007 12:45:06 PM |
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In article <4c389c59604ae0788b5cae572a439019@dizum.com>,
Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007, "Karl" <karlwtz@yahoo.com> wrote:
The gap between people who identify as Democrats and identify as Republicans
is larger than it has ever been!
50% of the people polled by Pew said they were DEMOCRATS and a meer 35%
identified themselves as Republicans!
Here's a nice bit of news:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/23/AR20070323014
17.html
New Study Offers More Bad News For GOP
The midterm elections dispelled for the time being the notion that the
Republican Party had established an enduring grip on power -- and now a new
study sees some dark clouds over the future of the GOP.
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While I have the greatest respect for Newt Gingrich, who is
likely to pull the proverbial rabbit out of his hat and get
the last-minute GOP nomination (e.g. "Gingrich-Rice 2008"?),
there is no question that Conservatives across America are
extremely disappointed with the GW Bush administration, and
with the [R]epublican party in general, for selling out to
CFRists/ivory-tower corporations/lawyers/bankers' interests.
Greed and Self-worship are *NOT* going to earn the GOP many
votes in the next election, most certainly not enough to win.
Frankly, I wouldn't want to be in Gingrich's shoes right now,
given the continually eroding support from former Republican-
voting Conservatives. The GOP has betrayed & disenfranchised
their Conservative voting base. Can they win us back...maybe?
Try as they might, tabloid television "news" aren't going to
convince Conservatives to get out and vote in the [R] column
on Tuesday November 4th, 2008. Promises are dead in the water.
Show me don't tell me. Conservatives expect _results_ already.
I mean, look at what's happened to FOXNEWS ever since the [R]s
handed the [D]s both Houses of Congress in the 2006 mid-terms.
And not just FNC, but also to CNN, and other big-money "news"
media. It's become Tabloid Television. Scarcely any real news
to be found on any channel. All diversions and obfuscations,
gratuitous mockeries and inept criticisms: "News Gone Wild!"
E.g. whether you agree with Al Gore or not, or accept global
warming, or not, when every "news" channel on broadcast and
cable television (FNC, CNN, et al) cut off his microphone to
the television viewing audience during his recent testimony
before Congress last Wednesday, obviously as not to incite a
"panic" (similar to how Big Brother steps in to quash WHO &
CDC reports of viral outbreaks, UFOs etc.), to keep that oil
flowing, keep those "wheels of progress" amply greased, etc.,
such blatant intervention is a real turnoff to independently-
minded voters, regardless of present or past political party
affiliations.
The GOP needs to declare full-scale, all-out, no-holds-barred
*Warfare* against the Anti-Christian Liberal Atheists, if the
GOP expects to bring Conservatives to the polls November 2008.
My advice to whomever runs on the GOP ticket: STOP treating
your voting base like we're brain-dead morons! The Atheists
treat us that way already 24/7/365.2422, and we sure as Hell
don't need *you* treating us that way, too. Maybe the fundies
will vote for you right or wrong, good or evil, since they're
so utterly brainwashed to begin with. But that's not going to
put the [R]s over the top in 2008. Contrary to popular media-
controlled "opinion", some Conservatives can actually *think*.
You had me going there until you started blaming it all on the atheists.
But you are correct in saying the Republicans are not good
conservatives. They simply cite conservative principles as a means to
support the oil, energy and automotive industries, because that's where
the money is, while pandering to the Christian right by blurring the
separation of church and state. Since when is subverting the
Constitution a "conservative" act?
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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26 Mar 2007 03:33:53 PM |
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On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 13:45:06 -0400, Bill Steele <ws21@cornell.edu>
wrote:
You had me going there until you started blaming it all on the atheists.
Just remember - you're responding to a post by Daniel "I have yet to
be correct" Min.
Since when is subverting the Constitution a "conservative" act?
When dealing with morons who think "Republican Party", "Big Business"
and "Conservative" all mean the same thing - "What God wants".
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| User: "tirebiter" |
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01 Apr 2007 05:00:52 PM |
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On Mar 26, 4:33 pm, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 13:45:06 -0400, Bill Steele <w...@cornell.edu>
wrote:
You had me going there until you started blaming it all on the atheists.
Just remember - you're responding to a post by Daniel "I have yet to
be correct" Min.
Since when is subverting the Constitution a "conservative" act?
When dealing with morons who think "Republican Party", "Big Business"
and "Conservative" all mean the same thing - "What God wants".
Funny that there are concurrent threads where atheists are less than
3% of the population, and therefore are to be shunned and ignored, to
ones like this where atheists are steering the country into ruin,
every second of every day.
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a.a. #2273
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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01 Apr 2007 08:28:29 PM |
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On 1 Apr 2007 15:00:52 -0700, "tirebiter" <dontspamme666@bigfoot.com>
wrote:
On Mar 26, 4:33 pm, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 13:45:06 -0400, Bill Steele <w...@cornell.edu>
wrote:
You had me going there until you started blaming it all on the atheists.
Just remember - you're responding to a post by Daniel "I have yet to
be correct" Min.
Since when is subverting the Constitution a "conservative" act?
When dealing with morons who think "Republican Party", "Big Business"
and "Conservative" all mean the same thing - "What God wants".
Funny that there are concurrent threads where atheists are less than
3% of the population, and therefore are to be shunned and ignored, to
ones like this where atheists are steering the country into ruin,
every second of every day.
It's like the old claim of Christians that Jews are sub-human but they
rule the world. If you actually think about most Christian claims
they amount to, at very best, self-contradictory assertions. Which
some Christians think prove them true, if you can believe that. A
wasted mind truly IS a terrible thing.
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| User: "Gunner" |
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26 Mar 2007 06:23:41 PM |
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On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:33:53 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 13:45:06 -0400, Bill Steele <ws21@cornell.edu>
wrote:
You had me going there until you started blaming it all on the atheists.
Just remember - you're responding to a post by Daniel "I have yet to
be correct" Min.
Since when is subverting the Constitution a "conservative" act?
When dealing with morons who think "Republican Party", "Big Business"
and "Conservative" all mean the same thing - "What God wants".
"atheism, just another faith based belief system"
Gunner
The aim of untold millions is to be free to do exactly as they choose
and for someone else to pay when things go wrong.
In the past few decades, a peculiar and distinctive psychology
has emerged in England. Gone are the civility, sturdy independence,
and admirable stoicism that carried the English through the war years
.. It has been replaced by a constant whine of excuses, complaints,
and special pleading. The collapse of the British character has been
as swift and complete as the collapse of British power.
Theodore Dalrymple,
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Republican Party in Decline due 2 Bush |
26 Mar 2007 07:45:41 PM |
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Gunner wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:33:53 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 13:45:06 -0400, Bill Steele <ws21@cornell.edu>
wrote:
You had me going there until you started blaming it all on the atheists.
Just remember - you're responding to a post by Daniel "I have yet to
be correct" Min.
Since when is subverting the Constitution a "conservative" act?
When dealing with morons who think "Republican Party", "Big Business"
and "Conservative" all mean the same thing - "What God wants".
"atheism, just another faith based belief system"
If there is a God, how come Hillary Clinton hasn't been struck by
lightning, and why aren't the Democrats covered in boils?? San Francisco
would be up to it's ***** in Frogs, if not buried in fire and brimstone
like Sodom and Gomorrah??
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Republican Party in Decline due 2 Bush |
27 Mar 2007 10:51:02 PM |
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On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 17:45:41 -0700, "stuart.grey@comcast.net"
<stuart.grey@comcast.net> wrote:
If there is a God, how come Hillary Clinton hasn't been struck by
lightning, and why aren't the Democrats covered in boils?? San Francisco
would be up to it's ***** in Frogs, if not buried in fire and brimstone
like Sodom and Gomorrah??
It's God's millennium off. He'll be back in 1,000 years or so.
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| User: "" |
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28 Mar 2007 12:41:28 PM |
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Al Klein wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 17:45:41 -0700, "stuart.grey@comcast.net"
<stuart.grey@comcast.net> wrote:
If there is a God, how come Hillary Clinton hasn't been struck by
lightning, and why aren't the Democrats covered in boils?? San Francisco
would be up to it's ***** in Frogs, if not buried in fire and brimstone
like Sodom and Gomorrah??
It's God's millennium off. He'll be back in 1,000 years or so.
The Romans and the Hebrews didn't start counting from Zero, but from
one. Thus, the seventh millennium has started.
The human race won't last another thousand years under the present
system; our ability to wipe ourselves out grows exponentially with time,
while there are fewer people alive schooled in logic and reason as time
increases. It is inevitable that we will soon wipe ourselves out. You
don't need biblical prophesy to see THAT coming.
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| User: "Free Lunch" |
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26 Mar 2007 07:54:39 PM |
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On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 17:45:41 -0700, in alt.atheism
"stuart.grey@comcast.net" <stuart.grey@comcast.net> wrote in
<SeadnSTt8_zE9JXbnZ2dnUVZ_rTinZ2d@comcast.com>:
Gunner wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:33:53 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 13:45:06 -0400, Bill Steele <ws21@cornell.edu>
wrote:
You had me going there until you started blaming it all on the atheists.
Just remember - you're responding to a post by Daniel "I have yet to
be correct" Min.
Since when is subverting the Constitution a "conservative" act?
When dealing with morons who think "Republican Party", "Big Business"
and "Conservative" all mean the same thing - "What God wants".
"atheism, just another faith based belief system"
If there is a God, how come Hillary Clinton hasn't been struck by
lightning, and why aren't the Democrats covered in boils?? San Francisco
would be up to it's ***** in Frogs, if not buried in fire and brimstone
like Sodom and Gomorrah??
Even if there is a God, why would anyone think that God is the vile,
hateful tyrant that the right wing tries to sell.
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| User: "" |
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26 Mar 2007 08:00:49 PM |
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Free Lunch wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 17:45:41 -0700, in alt.atheism
"stuart.grey@comcast.net" <stuart.grey@comcast.net> wrote in
<SeadnSTt8_zE9JXbnZ2dnUVZ_rTinZ2d@comcast.com>:
Gunner wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:33:53 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 13:45:06 -0400, Bill Steele <ws21@cornell.edu>
wrote:
You had me going there until you started blaming it all on the atheists.
Just remember - you're responding to a post by Daniel "I have yet to
be correct" Min.
Since when is subverting the Constitution a "conservative" act?
When dealing with morons who think "Republican Party", "Big Business"
and "Conservative" all mean the same thing - "What God wants".
"atheism, just another faith based belief system"
If there is a God, how come Hillary Clinton hasn't been struck by
lightning, and why aren't the Democrats covered in boils?? San Francisco
would be up to it's ***** in Frogs, if not buried in fire and brimstone
like Sodom and Gomorrah??
Even if there is a God, why would anyone think that God is the vile,
hateful tyrant that the right wing tries to sell.
Hell, if God had any compassion, you'd be burried in brimstone and
burning sulpher.
Instead, I gotta put up with you. And there it is.
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| User: "J. Carroll" |
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26 Mar 2007 08:08:52 PM |
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wrote:
Free Lunch wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 17:45:41 -0700, in alt.atheism
" " <> wrote in
<SeadnSTt8_zE9JXbnZ2dnUVZ_rTinZ2d@comcast.com>:
Gunner wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:33:53 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 13:45:06 -0400, Bill Steele <ws21@cornell.edu>
wrote:
You had me going there until you started blaming it all on the
atheists.
Just remember - you're responding to a post by Daniel "I have yet
to be correct" Min.
Since when is subverting the Constitution a "conservative" act?
When dealing with morons who think "Republican Party", "Big
Business" and "Conservative" all mean the same thing - "What God
wants".
"atheism, just another faith based belief system"
If there is a God, how come Hillary Clinton hasn't been struck by
lightning, and why aren't the Democrats covered in boils?? San
Francisco would be up to it's ***** in Frogs, if not buried in fire
and brimstone like Sodom and Gomorrah??
Even if there is a God, why would anyone think that God is the vile,
hateful tyrant that the right wing tries to sell.
Hell, if God had any compassion, you'd be burried in brimstone and
burning sulpher.
Instead, I gotta put up with you. And there it is.
Actually Stuart, it's the better part of the world that must tolerate you.
God has buried us in ***** - you - rather than fire and brimstone.
--
John R. Carroll
Machining Solution Software, Inc.
Los Angeles San Francisco
www.machiningsolution.com
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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27 Mar 2007 10:52:57 PM |
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On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 00:54:39 GMT, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>
wrote:
Even if there is a God, why would anyone think that God is the vile,
hateful tyrant that the right wing tries to sell.
Those who think they'd benefit by sucking the ***** of a vile, hateful,
tyrannical god would believe it.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Republican Party in Decline due 2 Bush |
26 Mar 2007 08:43:40 AM |
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Nomen Nescio wrote:
The GOP needs to declare full-scale, all-out, no-holds-barred
*Warfare* against the Anti-Christian Liberal Atheists, if the
GOP expects to bring Conservatives to the polls November 2008.
Yeah, that's what the country needs: more war. And why is it that
Christians just *love* war so much?
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