On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 09:28:02 -0400, G-Net <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote:
"Craig Chilton -- Drive the Loathsome Agendas of the RRR Cult into
Extinction." <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:3kn0i29ck14r75kilhahbo76lukg7nm330@4ax.com...
That which other people happen to do as a personal liberty in PRIVATE is
NONE of your business.
I disagree. It is my business and it will continue to be my business
until I
draw my
last breath, get used to it.
No, you get used to the fact that you don't have the right to stick your
nose where it doesn't belong. While others can enforce their right to
privacy, you can't enforce what you think is your right to be invasive.
Looks like it's you who's going to have to "get used to it."
OTHER people... NONE of your business. And for that matter, the
Bible is meaningless to 17% of Americans... 1/6 of the population.
50,000,000 people who'd be likely to laugh in your face for being such
an obnoxious jerk.
It doesn't matter whether a percentage of the people ignore the Bible or
not. We're
not talking about witnessing to people to get them into church, we are
talking about
the mass slaughter of human beings.
No, we aren't. Embryos/fetuses are not human beings any more than sperm
cells are. A seed is not a tree, no matter how much you yell that it is.
In fact, the Bible tells you NOT to do that to nonbelievers, no
matter WHAT its precepts may be:
And you keep taking and using scripture out of context. You keep quoting
the
same scripture, (is that the only one you've ever read?). The Bible
clearly
states that murder is a sin, that's a fact.
1) Just because the bible says something is a sin, doesn't mean there's
actually anything wrong with it. The bible is just superstition from
thousands of years ago--it's amazing how many people still put relevance
into it. Murder is not illegal in the USA because it's a sin in the bible.
Don't forget that.
2) Irrelevant. Embryos/fetuses are not human beings, therefore murder does
not apply to them. However, if you insist that an abortion is murder, then
you would also be in favor of prosecuting women who have miscarriages for
involuntary manslaughter (a.k.a. unintentional murder). Are you? Or are
you just a hypocrite?
Until GOD tells me that these
unborn babies are NOT human, nothing you say makes any difference
to me.
LOL! And yet you post your tripe on Usenet. If nothing anyone says makes a
difference to you, why are you writing your nonsense in a public forum?
...but that's the epitome of hypocrisy because the TRULY
selfish person is the one who's so selfish that he can't even mind his
own business when it comes to the PERSONAL and PRIVATE matters
of other people. As for immaturity, that TOO is the domain of people
like you. Mature people KNOW better than to be mindless busybodies.
Obeying the word of God IS a mature thing to do.
Good. Obey it, then. Start with 1 Cor. 5:12-13.
Well I believe in reading ALL of the Bible, not just one small verse that
you try
to misapply and take out of context.
Immaturity is when someone disobeys God, does whatever
pleases themselves, and then tries to pass it off as if they are the
mature one.
ROTFL!!! You're delusional, for the reasons I just made clear.
The only thing that you've made clear is that you can justify murder,
Should women who have miscarriages be convicted of involuntary
manslaughter?
that
you couldn't care less about sin,
"Sin" is a man-made concept to shame people out of doing harmless things.
and that you are so arrogant that you
think you know better than God.
There is no God.
Whereas, I stated FACTS, and you merely proved yourself to be
a fruitcake.
Yeah, whatever dude. You keep saying it but it don't make it fact...
Just about anything's closer to fact than the bible.
Obviously, you see the world very differently than me.
Thank heaven!! FACTS are meaningful to me.
Really? You'd think you'd start using some at some point then...
You doltishly would like to impose your repressive "values" upon others,
while
doing so would be NONE of your business.
You keep saying it but it don't make it so. I'll continue to believe the
Bible over
your demands.
And don't worry, I and many others will also keep laughing at your
superstitions.
You don't value a human life if you deem it to be "unwanted".
Just as YOU don't value the UNwanted human life that is comprised
of the QUADRILLION Stage-One-of-the-reproductive-process gametes
that you don't defend which are electively aborted DAILY, worldwide
(and which, just like the other three stages, are human, unique, and
*living* POTENTIAL people)... *I* very sensibly don't value any other
UNwanted entities that have NOT *become* people. Especially when
doing do would DEvalue the lives and well being of ACTUAL people.
None of this tripe is true.
"You keep saying it but it don't make it so." What do you know? You value
millenia-old superstition over science.
Outright lie, or abject ignorance -- since ALL *human beings* (a
societal term, not a legal, medical, or scientific one) are already-
BORN **people**. I defend the human rights of ALL people.
That's not the way I see it. God has not said
anything. There is no God--wake up, already.
that an unborn baby is NOT a
human
being so, they are a human being.
Ah, so since God has, indeed, not said that you are NOT a blithering
idiot, you are a blithering idiot. Nice logic. :)
Again -- THANK HEAVEN. Being a hateful and delusional nutbar
like you would be ROCK bottom on my list of priorities!
You think that killing babies is a caring, loving thing, I disagree.
Embryos/fetuses are not babies.
Nobody is falling for this. Cut your losses--everyone can see right
through you.
You see things are legal and illegal.
No. I see things as reasonable/sensible as opposed to
unreasonable/irrational. The former 55-mph speed limit was
the latter, for example, and like most people, I never had any
respect for that absurd law.
Oh, so you ignore the law if you don't agree with it? It is no
wonder that you ignore the Bible then.
The Bible is not law, not except for the loonies who live their lives
according to millenia-old superstition. Those of us living in the real,
civilized world have no use for superstition.
I can see now why you
choose to say that an unborn baby isn't a human being then
too.
Because it isn't.
In your world, you play god and decide what you want to
believe about everything. Yeah, a lot of things make sense
to me now...
Makes sense to me.
However, Roe vs. Wade is the BEST law that's come along
since the Emancipation Proclamation 108 years earlier. And I
accord praise and defense to that decision accordingly.
Yeah, I can see why you would derive pleasure from legalizing
brutality and murder of the unborn. It all fits now as to why you
would think that this is a good thing...
Your attempts to demonize abortion with words like "brutality" and
"murder" is incredibly obvious. You are convincing no one--we can all see
through it.
I see things as what is right and wrong by God's laws.
Very logical, most of the time. And NONE of those laws
even MENTIONS abortion. (Homosexuality never made the
Big Ten, either, BTW.)
Abortion is there but it's listed under murder.
Should women who have miscarriages be convicted of involuntary
manslaughter?
in the real world you aren't god.
In the real world, there is no God.
And this discussion is ONLY about RPEs. ALL babies have been *born*,
and this discussion has nothing to do with them.
No sorry, you don't get to pick and choose. An unborn baby is still a
baby
No, it isn't.
and
you can't control what I discuss and what I talk about.
But we can point out how wrong you are.
And if she doesn't happen to feel like abstaining, or if the birth
control fails, she can easily access the remedy of abortion. NO
biggie!
It's "no biggie" in YOUR opinion.
And in the law.
In my opinion it is a very big deal.
But you're the type of person who eschews science in favor of millenia-old
superstition, so who cares?
An automobile accident and an abortion are not the same thing.
But an automobile accident and an unintended pregnancy are very similar,
and that's what he was saying.
It's a matter of choice whether someone has sex. It's a matter of choice
whether they use birth control. Once a baby is conceived, that choice is
no longer available.
Nonsense--and the law agrees with me.
And I remind YOU that it is my business and that of every Christian.
Not in this country, sorry. Try again in a theocracy, though.
if unwanted pregnancy occurs, she
has the CHOICE of gestating or accessing the remedy of abortion
and REVERSING the undesirable situation. (Either way: NONE
of *your* business!! As I said before --- )
It IS my business and that of every Christian.
Not in this country, sorry. Try again in a theocracy, though.
Which, by the way, is absolutely NO business of *yours*, no
matter WHICH option she chooses.
We don't agree on this issue either. I DO see it as VERY much my
business and it will continue to be my business until I draw my
last breath.
Your business? Not in this country, sorry. Try again in a theocracy,
though.
That makes you a LUDICROUS and buttinskyish control-freak and
mindlessly-hateful bigot. A total laughingstock. And as such, we of
the vast PRO-Choice majority will ensure that your agenda meets the
same fate as the agenda of the segregationists: extinction.
It makes no difference to me what you baby killers do. I will continue to
oppose abortion. I will continue to vote Pro-Life, and I will continue to
speak out about the half truth, misinformation, and outright lies
that are being spread by the pro-abortion supporters.
And your dishonest yammering will continue to be ignored. :)
How ANY person can be STUPID enough to seek to BUTT IN to the
private and personal affairs of other people, and even seek to deprive
them of personal liberties and by so doing impose immense hardships
upon them is beyond comprehension. You are LITERALLY a sociopath.
Let me remind you that this is just YOUR opinion and means nothing.
Realize that his opinion is the 'opinion' shared by the laws of this
country. Deal with it. :)
WHAT fact? You wouldn't know a relevant fact with respect to this
issue if you tripped over it. NO relevant fact that supports your
stance even EXISTS. Your position is one of total irrationality and
utter stupidity.
YOUR opinion and means nothing. There are substantial facts that
support my views that you have chosen to ignore.
What, like the bible? LOL
It doesn't matter
because as I said before, I will continue to work, vote, and support
Pro-Life.
And the non-nutjobs will continue ignoring you, or, when bored, actively
point out the holes in your logic and laugh at your attempts to hide them.
And again -- that is NONE of your business whatsoever.
And again, the Bible says that it IS the Christians business so that's
all
that matters.
Not in this country, sorry. Try again in a theocracy, though.
*smiles at his (mostly) clean editing/snipping, lol*
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