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"Richard Catto" |
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29 Dec 2006 11:57:37 AM |
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Re: Saddam Swings Tonight |
Rumplestiltskin wrote:
I OPPOSE THE DEATH PENALTY!!!!!!
Today you do. Tomorrow you won't.
nonsense. i have been consistent in my opposition to the death penalty.
Your stance is as on and off as a
whores drawers. Regardless of what us 'mericans are doing there, the
man does deserve to die, if for no other reason than his attempted
genocide of his own people. Oh! Wait. There's no substantiating proof
that he did that, is there?
Saddam does not deserve to die. He should still be in power.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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05 Jan 2007 07:47:54 AM |
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On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 22:44:40 -0500, Rumplestiltskin
<rumplestiltskin@omar-inexile.com> wrote:
On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 12:20:12 +0200, Richard Catto <rrcatto@gmail.com>
wrote:
That is why you still retain a death penalty. Because you are a people
lacking civilisation.
You're dead wrong there man. You oughta see this place to believe it.
For all the Americans who complain, how many of them do you see moving
out? NONE! Figure it out.
And how many South Africans are fighting (figuratively, of course) to
get in? More every day.
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| User: "Richard Catto" |
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04 Jan 2007 10:37:24 PM |
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Rumplestiltskin wrote:
That is why you still retain a death penalty. Because you are a people
lacking civilisation.
You're dead wrong there man. You oughta see this place to believe it.
For all the Americans who complain, how many of them do you see moving
out? NONE! Figure it out.
South Africa turns back millions of people each year too.
But South Africa has a better Constitution, more rights and greater
freedom for its people.
The United States offers more flavours of ice-cream and more
opportunities to get rich. However, not everyone gets rich. There are
more destitute people in America than there are in South Africa.
and South Africa isn't just saying, "***** the poor", it is doing things
to alleviate their grinding poverty, like building them free housing.
Black people in South Africa are treated like human beings, unlike in
the United States.
Our economy is growing steadily, at a greater rate than our population
expansion rate. GDP is up. Exports are up. So are imports.
Most importantly, South Africa's citizens do not live in fear of
imminent attack. We have no enemies. To my knowledge, I don't think
there is a single nation that we have strained relations with.
The premier of North Korea could visit here and we wouldn't be demanding
that he do this and not do that.
Even the US military has conducted joint exercises here with some of our
infantry divisions.
South Africa is a non-aligned nation.
I tell you, it's fucking great not being at war with anyone!
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| User: "peachy ashie passion" |
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05 Jan 2007 09:34:59 AM |
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Richard Catto wrote:
Rumplestiltskin wrote:
That is why you still retain a death penalty. Because you are a
people lacking civilisation.
You're dead wrong there man. You oughta see this place to believe it.
For all the Americans who complain, how many of them do you see moving
out? NONE! Figure it out.
South Africa turns back millions of people each year too.
Yes.. that's just what Amnesty International said...
"Asylum-seekers were at risk of arbitrary arrest or deportation
because of officials’ corrupt practices at refugee reception centres and
borders, which obstructed, delayed or denied their access to
determination procedures. Human rights lawyers and organizations
expressed concern, particularly at the discriminatory treatment of
Zimbabwean asylum-seekers."
Turning people back indeed.
But South Africa has a better Constitution, more rights and greater
freedom for its people.
The United States offers more flavours of ice-cream and more
opportunities to get rich. However, not everyone gets rich. There are
more destitute people in America than there are in South Africa.
10% of SA's population lives in extreme poverty, on less than 1 US
dollar a day.
and South Africa isn't just saying, "***** the poor", it is doing things
to alleviate their grinding poverty, like building them free housing.
Black people in South Africa are treated like human beings, unlike in
the United States.
Amnesty International says that an increasing number of black South
Africans have no access to basic services, due at least in part to the
actions of the government.
It also says that black refugees and immigrants face much more
discrimination and corruption.
Our economy is growing steadily, at a greater rate than our population
expansion rate. GDP is up. Exports are up. So are imports.
And unemployment is still described as "massive".
Most importantly, South Africa's citizens do not live in fear of
imminent attack. We have no enemies. To my knowledge, I don't think
there is a single nation that we have strained relations with.
No? According to Amnesty International SA had 52,759 reported rapes
for 2004, the last year they have stats for... Holding steady, since the
number was 52,975 in the year 2000. And since so many of those victims
were subject to problems stemming from the rape, it is a sure bet that
there is a very low rate of reporting.
I'd say with a rape rate that high, many many of SA's citizens live
in fear of imminent attack.
Given a 47% increase in complaints of serious criminal offenses by
the police, I'd say women aren't the only ones living in fear. 35%
increase of deaths at the hands of the police? Torture is frequently
alleged?
Well, that was fun - shall we play some more?
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| User: "Richard Catto" |
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05 Jan 2007 09:56:38 AM |
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peachy ashie passion wrote:
"Asylum-seekers were at risk of arbitrary arrest or deportation because
of officials’ corrupt practices at refugee reception centres and
borders, which obstructed, delayed or denied their access to
determination procedures. Human rights lawyers and organizations
expressed concern, particularly at the discriminatory treatment of
Zimbabwean asylum-seekers."
that sounds like a heavily loaded statement.
i wonder what the straight facts are?
10% of SA's population lives in extreme poverty, on less than 1 US
dollar a day.
they can afford to. we feed them and house them. we have shelters.
Amnesty International says that an increasing number of black South
Africans have no access to basic services, due at least in part to the
actions of the government.
hahahaha. right.
that must be true.
It also says that black refugees and immigrants face much more
discrimination and corruption.
i wonder how they determine that?
And unemployment is still described as "massive".
i'm sure it is. a lot of black South Africans did not receive good
education.
No? According to Amnesty International SA had 52,759 reported rapes
for 2004, the last year they have stats for... Holding steady, since the
number was 52,975 in the year 2000. And since so many of those victims
were subject to problems stemming from the rape, it is a sure bet that
there is a very low rate of reporting.
I'd say with a rape rate that high, many many of SA's citizens live in
fear of imminent attack.
hardly any. except the deeply paranoid.
Given a 47% increase in complaints of serious criminal offenses by the
police, I'd say women aren't the only ones living in fear. 35% increase
of deaths at the hands of the police? Torture is frequently alleged?
no, the police don't torture people anymore.
Well, that was fun - shall we play some more?
anytime.
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| User: "WhewNotSaved" |
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05 Jan 2007 11:00:15 AM |
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"Richard Catto" <rrcatto@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:enlsf1$s5o$1@ctb-nnrp2.saix.net...
peachy ashie passion wrote:
"Asylum-seekers were at risk of arbitrary arrest or deportation because
of officials’ corrupt practices at refugee reception centres and borders,
which obstructed, delayed or denied their access to determination
procedures. Human rights lawyers and organizations expressed concern,
particularly at the discriminatory treatment of Zimbabwean
asylum-seekers."
that sounds like a heavily loaded statement.
i wonder what the straight facts are?
10% of SA's population lives in extreme poverty, on less than 1 US
dollar a day.
they can afford to. we feed them and house them. we have shelters.
So do we, some people don't want to go.
Food is readily available all over the place.
Idiot Bush before the last election reopened the Section 8 program (not
because he cares of course).
Amnesty International says that an increasing number of black South
Africans have no access to basic services, due at least in part to the
actions of the government.
hahahaha. right.
that must be true.
It also says that black refugees and immigrants face much more
discrimination and corruption.
i wonder how they determine that?
And unemployment is still described as "massive".
i'm sure it is. a lot of black South Africans did not receive good
education.
People in the states can get a job without a good education.
There are free literacy programs and training for job skills help with
getting them employment. If a person stays on the job, they will
eventually move up in that job until they are gainfully employed.
The new minimum wage is a big help too, especially for people who work for
large chains because they do offer regular promotions.
NICE clothes, like new, are readily available.
All a person has to do is ask.
Free beauty treatments as well... hair, skin, nails, etc.
If a person wants to work and have a roof over their head, it's available
here.
No? According to Amnesty International SA had 52,759 reported rapes
for 2004, the last year they have stats for... Holding steady, since the
number was 52,975 in the year 2000. And since so many of those victims
were subject to problems stemming from the rape, it is a sure bet that
there is a very low rate of reporting.
I'd say with a rape rate that high, many many of SA's citizens live in
fear of imminent attack.
hardly any. except the deeply paranoid.
Given a 47% increase in complaints of serious criminal offenses by the
police, I'd say women aren't the only ones living in fear. 35% increase
of deaths at the hands of the police? Torture is frequently alleged?
no, the police don't torture people anymore.
Well, that was fun - shall we play some more?
anytime.
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| User: "the14thdisciple" |
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05 Jan 2007 10:06:03 AM |
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Richard Catto wrote:
i'm sure it is. a lot of black South Africans did not receive good education.
it's A right cop-out to say 'i Diddent recieve good education'. it's
The lazy-mans way of passing on the responsibility for his
shortcomings. EVERY human has the ability and necessity to educate
HIMSELF, and if he doessent then he deserves all the ***** he expects to
be given.
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| User: "Richard Catto" |
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05 Jan 2007 10:25:50 AM |
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the14thdisciple wrote:
i'm sure it is. a lot of black South Africans did not receive good education.
it's A right cop-out to say 'i Diddent recieve good education'. it's
The lazy-mans way of passing on the responsibility for his
shortcomings. EVERY human has the ability and necessity to educate
HIMSELF, and if he doessent then he deserves all the ***** he expects to
be given.
i love you and i feel no shame.
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| User: "peachy ashie passion" |
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05 Jan 2007 11:00:48 AM |
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Richard Catto wrote:
peachy ashie passion wrote:
"Asylum-seekers were at risk of arbitrary arrest or deportation
because of officials’ corrupt practices at refugee reception centres
and borders, which obstructed, delayed or denied their access to
determination procedures. Human rights lawyers and organizations
expressed concern, particularly at the discriminatory treatment of
Zimbabwean asylum-seekers."
that sounds like a heavily loaded statement.
i wonder what the straight facts are?
And you'll just keep wondering, because Goddess knows you certainly
won't do any research and find out facts.
You've seen too much now to want to know the truth.
10% of SA's population lives in extreme poverty, on less than 1 US
dollar a day.
they can afford to. we feed them and house them. we have shelters.
Amnesty International says that an increasing number of black South
Africans have no access to basic services, due at least in part to the
actions of the government.
hahahaha. right.
that must be true.
It also says that black refugees and immigrants face much more
discrimination and corruption.
i wonder how they determine that?
And unemployment is still described as "massive".
i'm sure it is. a lot of black South Africans did not receive good
education.
No? According to Amnesty International SA had 52,759 reported rapes
for 2004, the last year they have stats for... Holding steady, since
the number was 52,975 in the year 2000. And since so many of those
victims were subject to problems stemming from the rape, it is a sure
bet that there is a very low rate of reporting.
I'd say with a rape rate that high, many many of SA's citizens live
in fear of imminent attack.
hardly any. except the deeply paranoid.
Given a 47% increase in complaints of serious criminal offenses by
the police, I'd say women aren't the only ones living in fear. 35%
increase of deaths at the hands of the police? Torture is frequently
alleged?
no, the police don't torture people anymore.
Well, that was fun - shall we play some more?
anytime.
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| User: "Richard Catto" |
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05 Jan 2007 04:36:26 PM |
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peachy ashie passion wrote:
And you'll just keep wondering, because Goddess knows you certainly
won't do any research and find out facts.
You've seen too much now to want to know the truth.
true enough. i'm fully Americanised now (except for my spelling).. i
don't give a darn about anything anymore.
as long as there is beer in the fridge, a steak on my plate and 36DDs
in my face, there's absolutely nothing to worry about!
USA! USA! USA!
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| User: "WhewNotSaved" |
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05 Jan 2007 06:05:36 PM |
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"Richard Catto" <rrcatto@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1168036586.779898.119410@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
peachy ashie passion wrote:
And you'll just keep wondering, because Goddess knows you certainly
won't do any research and find out facts.
You've seen too much now to want to know the truth.
true enough. i'm fully Americanised now (except for my spelling).. i
don't give a darn about anything anymore.
as long as there is beer in the fridge, a steak on my plate and 36DDs
in my face, there's absolutely nothing to worry about!
USA! USA! USA!
Yeah right.
Dinner is ready and it's good!
Everyone except that Taco Ramirez is invited.
Bring red wine and some good sour dough
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| User: "Douglas D. Anderson" |
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05 Jan 2007 06:14:24 PM |
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Richard Catto wrote:
peachy ashie passion wrote:
And you'll just keep wondering, because Goddess knows you certainly
won't do any research and find out facts.
You've seen too much now to want to know the truth.
true enough. i'm fully Americanised now (except for my spelling).. i
don't give a darn about anything anymore.
Here's your mantra-
"Oreos, Budweiser, more KFC,
McDonalds, and Campbells' and widescreen TV,
30 year mortgages sure ain't no fun,
I'm going to Wal Mart to buy a shotgun,
Every thing's buy one, get one for free,
10 miles per gallon in my new S.U.V.
I'm happily married with a piece on the side,
Full of french fries and American pride."
as long as there is beer in the fridge, a steak on my plate and 36DDs
in my face, there's absolutely nothing to worry about!
USA! USA! USA!
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| User: "Richard Catto" |
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06 Jan 2007 02:04:09 AM |
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Douglas D. Anderson wrote:
And you'll just keep wondering, because Goddess knows you certainly
won't do any research and find out facts.
You've seen too much now to want to know the truth.
true enough. i'm fully Americanised now (except for my spelling).. i
don't give a darn about anything anymore.
Here's your mantra-
"Oreos, Budweiser, more KFC,
McDonalds, and Campbells' and widescreen TV,
30 year mortgages sure ain't no fun,
I'm going to Wal Mart to buy a shotgun,
Every thing's buy one, get one for free,
10 miles per gallon in my new S.U.V.
I'm happily married with a piece on the side,
Full of french fries and American pride."
cute. i'll let you live for another 24.
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| User: "Douglas D. Anderson" |
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06 Jan 2007 09:49:30 AM |
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Richard Catto wrote:
Douglas D. Anderson wrote:
And you'll just keep wondering, because Goddess knows you certainly
won't do any research and find out facts.
You've seen too much now to want to know the truth.
true enough. i'm fully Americanised now (except for my spelling).. i
don't give a darn about anything anymore.
Here's your mantra-
"Oreos, Budweiser, more KFC,
McDonalds, and Campbells' and widescreen TV,
30 year mortgages sure ain't no fun,
I'm going to Wal Mart to buy a shotgun,
Every thing's buy one, get one for free,
10 miles per gallon in my new S.U.V.
I'm happily married with a piece on the side,
Full of french fries and American pride."
cute. i'll let you live for another 24.
Now you've lost your grip- Americans don't have plans or schedules
like that. Never more than a few days ahead. If you want to be an
American you need to think like, "Am I going to finish paying for
the furniture or just pack up and move?...damn! the neighbor's dog
is barking again! I'm going to go out and shoot it, and maybe the
neighbor too if he's around...let's see, where's my Ruger 9mm...
now I remember, Billy got arrested last week for taking it to school...
I hate to use the Remington .41, the ammo costs too much, but you
gotta do what you gotta do...hey, who left the bag of Fritos in the
gun locker???... I wonder if that new medication, what did they call
it, "Damitol" or something, they got the little woman on is doing
any good...oh well, a bag of Fritos sounds pretty good about now,
the Doctor told me I need to watch my diet and stay away from the
hamburgers...what the *****??? Hey you kids get away from the pick-
up! I'll drill you a new ***** if I see you playing there again!!!
where's that phone...howdy Bill, you want to grab a few cold ones
as soon as I get done shooting that new neighbor's dog??? sure, I
can stop by there, naw, I understand about your boy wrecking your
Trans Am and the wife needing the Camaro to go to church..."
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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08 Jan 2007 05:11:33 PM |
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On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 19:14:24 -0500, "Douglas D. Anderson"
<dda@rr.rochester.com> wrote:
Richard Catto wrote:
peachy ashie passion wrote:
And you'll just keep wondering, because Goddess knows you certainly
won't do any research and find out facts.
You've seen too much now to want to know the truth.
true enough. i'm fully Americanised now (except for my spelling).. i
don't give a darn about anything anymore.
Here's your mantra-
"Oreos, Budweiser, more KFC,
McDonalds, and Campbells' and widescreen TV,
30 year mortgages sure ain't no fun,
I'm going to Wal Mart to buy a shotgun,
Every thing's buy one, get one for free,
10 miles per gallon in my new S.U.V.
I'm happily married with a piece on the side,
Full of french fries and American pride."
You forgot to tell him that it's the mantra of the trailer-trash
portion of America. Oh, well, he's probably not intelligent enough to
know the difference.
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| User: "Douglas D. Anderson" |
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08 Jan 2007 07:27:11 PM |
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Al Klein wrote:
On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 19:14:24 -0500, "Douglas D. Anderson"
<dda@rr.rochester.com> wrote:
Richard Catto wrote:
peachy ashie passion wrote:
And you'll just keep wondering, because Goddess knows you certainly
won't do any research and find out facts.
You've seen too much now to want to know the truth.
true enough. i'm fully Americanised now (except for my spelling).. i
don't give a darn about anything anymore.
Here's your mantra-
"Oreos, Budweiser, more KFC,
McDonalds, and Campbells' and widescreen TV,
30 year mortgages sure ain't no fun,
I'm going to Wal Mart to buy a shotgun,
Every thing's buy one, get one for free,
10 miles per gallon in my new S.U.V.
I'm happily married with a piece on the side,
Full of french fries and American pride."
You forgot to tell him that it's the mantra of the trailer-trash
portion of America. Oh, well, he's probably not intelligent enough to
know the difference.
I think he'd fit right in.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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05 Jan 2007 07:46:55 AM |
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On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 12:20:12 +0200, Richard Catto <rrcatto@gmail.com>
wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
Murders happen - that does not take anything away from the fact that
they are wrong.
There's no right or wrong about murder - it's a violation of law.
Murder is wrong, Mr. Klein. Do I have to tell you everything?
Have to? You're incapable of telling me anything that takes
intelligence to tell. Morality isn't absolute.
If a country allowed people to murder each other indiscriminately,
murder would still be wrong.
Unless one believed that killing is moral. Not everyone has always
agreed with your particular brand of morality.
One would hope that one day, a better
government elected by a more civilised electorate would recognise this.
Yes, we hoped for decades that YOUR government would realize it. Sadly
it never did.
That is the situation with America today. You have a low quality
electorate. An uncivilised rabble who does not yet recognise that
killing people is wrong.
Except that we do think (not recognize - that implies absolute morals,
or claims that yours are better than anyone else's, which they clearly
aren't) that killing people, even dark people, is wrong.
That is why you still retain a death penalty.
We retain the death penalty because the Christian Bible backs it.
And you're the LAST one to talk about morality.
As an American, I realise that you cannot recognise morality when you
see it, because you are ignorant.
As a theist, I realize that you have no concept of what morality
really is.
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| User: "Richard Catto" |
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05 Jan 2007 09:44:44 AM |
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Al Klein wrote:
Murders happen - that does not take anything away from the fact that
they are wrong.
There's no right or wrong about murder - it's a violation of law.
Murder is wrong, Mr. Klein. Do I have to tell you everything?
Have to? You're incapable of telling me anything that takes
intelligence to tell. Morality isn't absolute.
murder is still wrong.
One would hope that one day, a better
government elected by a more civilised electorate would recognise this.
Yes, we hoped for decades that YOUR government would realize it. Sadly
it never did.
actually they did.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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05 Jan 2007 02:46:27 PM |
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On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 17:44:44 +0200, Richard Catto <rrcatto@gmail.com>
wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
Murders happen - that does not take anything away from the fact that
they are wrong.
There's no right or wrong about murder - it's a violation of law.
Murder is wrong, Mr. Klein. Do I have to tell you everything?
Have to? You're incapable of telling me anything that takes
intelligence to tell. Morality isn't absolute.
murder is still wrong.
To you. That's nice. So what? (Or don't you understand what you
read?)
One would hope that one day, a better
government elected by a more civilised electorate would recognise this.
Yes, we hoped for decades that YOUR government would realize it. Sadly
it never did.
actually they did.
No, the white apartheid government of SA never did. You're just lucky
that the current government isn't vindictive, or you wouldn't be
posting here. Or anywhere.
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| User: "Douglas D. Anderson" |
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03 Jan 2007 08:22:22 PM |
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Richard Catto wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
Everyone, EVERYONE, has a right to LIFE.
Rights are what are given to you by the State.
Not from Paine's POV. He argued that there were natural rights that the
state could not morally take away from people.
Paine could have that view, but it didn't keep the state from taking
away rights he considered natural rights. A point of view is one
thing, reality on the ground may be something entirely different.
Klein, that is entirely irrelevant.
Murders happen - that does not take anything away from the fact that
they are wrong.
"Murders happen"... that's got to be the dumbest statement I've heard
in a long time. I can picture some Jewish scientist after Hiroshima
shrugging his shoulders and saying, "Hey, vatt can I say? A- bombs go
off, it just happens. Maybe it's wrong, but who am I to say? I just
build them, and if they go off, oh well."
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| User: "MosNot StillNot@YourHouse" |
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03 Jan 2007 08:36:46 PM |
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"Douglas D. Anderson" <dda@rr.rochester.com> wrote in message
news:459c64df$0$5206$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
Richard Catto wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
Everyone, EVERYONE, has a right to LIFE.
Rights are what are given to you by the State.
Not from Paine's POV. He argued that there were natural rights that the
state could not morally take away from people.
Paine could have that view, but it didn't keep the state from taking
away rights he considered natural rights. A point of view is one
thing, reality on the ground may be something entirely different.
Klein, that is entirely irrelevant.
Murders happen - that does not take anything away from the fact that
they are wrong.
"Murders happen"... that's got to be the dumbest statement I've heard
in a long time. I can picture some Jewish scientist after Hiroshima
shrugging his shoulders and saying, "Hey, vatt can I say? A- bombs go
off, it just happens. Maybe it's wrong, but who am I to say? I just
build them, and if they go off, oh well."
Mel gets dumber every day....it just happens.
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| User: "Father Haskell" |
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29 Dec 2006 05:56:22 PM |
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Richard Catto wrote:
Father Haskell wrote:
I OPPOSE THE DEATH PENALTY!!!!!!
Today you do. Tomorrow you won't.
nonsense. i have been consistent in my opposition to the death penalty.
Your stance is as on and off as a
whores drawers. Regardless of what us 'mericans are doing there, the
man does deserve to die, if for no other reason than his attempted
genocide of his own people. Oh! Wait. There's no substantiating proof
that he did that, is there?
Saddam does not deserve to die. He should still be in power.
Saddam absolutely doesn't deserve to live.
*****!!!
Everyone, EVERYONE, has a right to LIFE.
It is written thusly in the Constitution of South Africa, and forgive
me, but I respect that above the US Constitution, for a number of very
good reasons.
The US has become a pile of dog *****. You have no fucking freedom, You
have no fucking rights. Not anymore.
You're just a fucking byword now.
Still, the death penalty
should be abolished for any and all crimes, for the sake of never
killing an innocent person in the name of "justice."
Imprison him and let him live on cat food and water for the rest of
his life. The cheap stuff, Alley Cat, no Iams.
No. He should be freed or delivered to a court that has credibility to
try him.
Heads of state have diplomatic immunity from prosecution. Why do you
think Pinochet was never prosecuted? They tried to, they failed.
Furthermore, the Iraqi court that tried him has absolutely ZERO
credibility. none whatsoever.
If you fucking Americans actually gave a ***** about international
opinion, you would have delivered Saddam Hussein to the International
Court situated in Den Haag, Koninkrijk der Nederlanden for trial.
But you fucking Americans demonstrate daily that you don't give a
*****.
So ***** you all.
What? We installed the sonovabitch. Isn't that statesmanship
enough?
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