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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Mel"
Date: 29 Aug 2004 08:24:36 PM
Object: Re: [sci fi, cab drivers mark sue joe chris orville redenbacher, strange flashbacks...bad craziness but i'm SOBER please DO read.. yes this means you!]
On 29 Aug 2004 11:11:52 -0700,
(diana lyster) wrote
in message <d144cd13.0408291011.3faeb4a9@posting.google.com>:

well, i had a really trippy bizarre experience and trust me this is
worth reading! here i was hanging out with AA people, just hanging
out, smoking cigarettes on the couch, watching a sci fi movie about
monsters and all kinds of crazy stuff, eating orville redenbacher's
popcorn and drinking diet coke with lime, like, you know, no big
deal... sue's in a bad mood cause she wants to watch some lame movie
called 'jersey girl' and it was just one of those late nite meetings
after the meeting, or so i think... we're at this guy chris's house
(okay i changed names around a little bit because i didn't want to say
guy A and guy B and girl C, etc.) anyway, this guy chris who talks
about his MEDS a lot... he drives a cab which is cool but he's a
frustrated screenwriter... i think everyone is a frustrated something.
anyway, he goes in to take his meds and he comes back out after
awhile and we smell POT. sort of just on him although it was this
kind of incense-y type of place anyway. like it's 4:00 a.m. and we
don't know quite what to make of it except that chris is cooler and
more relaxed and the rest of us are kind of looking at each other like
WTF -- is this for real or is this just something in our minds, you
know?

long story short, he was smoking pot, because in AA it doesn't count
in his mind or whatever, and that's okay for him, and we were like,
okay that's okay but we've got to leave. but the smell, and pot was
never my drug of choice. but all of a sudden i really wanted to smoke
pot. and, if it had been just me and him, well, i'm hoping i would
have maintained my sobriety but i don't know.

needless to say the rest of us left but we felt bad and weird. he's a
really nice guy, just we can't be around alcohol and drugs cause we're
addicts. anyway, maybe i'm just looking for attention here and a pat
on the back like, good job, diana, you did the right thing for once.
because, it is never easy to just say no but i know for a fact that it
is the only thing i can do if i want to stay clean and sober. and i
had the support of my buddies which was good. and, we pretty much had
a meeting unto ourselves after we got out of there, like, wasn't that
close, wasn't that scary, and wasn't that weird?

diana

your reaction is the reason i am glad i don't attend NA anymore or hang out
with 12 steppers.
you guys are so unchilled about everything. REEEEE-FUCKING-LAAAAAAAAX!!!!
go smoke some pot and un-fucking-wind. you sure as ***** need it, girl!
ya wanna know why NA people are like that at all the time?
yer hanging for it. constantly. you're all just fucking hanging and hanging
and hanging for it.
you 12 steppers are always worked up about something... all the time.
yer hanging. everyday. just hanging for it.
this is how it is going to be for all of you for the rest of your lives. one
perpetual hanging for it.
go and fucking use some drugs and put yourselves out of your collective
miseries.
--
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler
member, ATJ regs
webmaster of atjfaq.com
http://www.atjfaq.com/
.

User: "diana lyster"

Title: Re: [sci fi, cab drivers mark sue joe chris orville redenbacher, strange flashbacks...bad craziness but i'm SOBER please DO read.. yes this means you!] 30 Aug 2004 02:28:38 PM
"Mel" <mel@atj.faq.com> wrote in message news:<fd05j0lot2gvll4ig3fl11pblhacb4q5e7@4ax.com>...

On 29 Aug 2004 11:11:52 -0700,

(diana lyster) wrote
in message <d144cd13.0408291011.3faeb4a9@posting.google.com>:

well, i had a really trippy bizarre experience and trust me this is
worth reading! here i was hanging out with AA people, just hanging
out, smoking cigarettes on the couch, watching a sci fi movie about
monsters and all kinds of crazy stuff, eating orville redenbacher's
popcorn and drinking diet coke with lime, like, you know, no big
deal... sue's in a bad mood cause she wants to watch some lame movie
called 'jersey girl' and it was just one of those late nite meetings
after the meeting, or so i think... we're at this guy chris's house
(okay i changed names around a little bit because i didn't want to say
guy A and guy B and girl C, etc.) anyway, this guy chris who talks
about his MEDS a lot... he drives a cab which is cool but he's a
frustrated screenwriter... i think everyone is a frustrated something.
anyway, he goes in to take his meds and he comes back out after
awhile and we smell POT. sort of just on him although it was this
kind of incense-y type of place anyway. like it's 4:00 a.m. and we
don't know quite what to make of it except that chris is cooler and
more relaxed and the rest of us are kind of looking at each other like
WTF -- is this for real or is this just something in our minds, you
know?

long story short, he was smoking pot, because in AA it doesn't count
in his mind or whatever, and that's okay for him, and we were like,
okay that's okay but we've got to leave. but the smell, and pot was
never my drug of choice. but all of a sudden i really wanted to smoke
pot. and, if it had been just me and him, well, i'm hoping i would
have maintained my sobriety but i don't know.

needless to say the rest of us left but we felt bad and weird. he's a
really nice guy, just we can't be around alcohol and drugs cause we're
addicts. anyway, maybe i'm just looking for attention here and a pat
on the back like, good job, diana, you did the right thing for once.
because, it is never easy to just say no but i know for a fact that it
is the only thing i can do if i want to stay clean and sober. and i
had the support of my buddies which was good. and, we pretty much had
a meeting unto ourselves after we got out of there, like, wasn't that
close, wasn't that scary, and wasn't that weird?

diana


your reaction is the reason i am glad i don't attend NA anymore or hang out
with 12 steppers.

you guys are so unchilled about everything. REEEEE-FUCKING-LAAAAAAAAX!!!!

go smoke some pot and un-fucking-wind. you sure as ***** need it, girl!

ya wanna know why NA people are like that at all the time?

yer hanging for it. constantly. you're all just fucking hanging and hanging
and hanging for it.

you 12 steppers are always worked up about something... all the time.

yer hanging. everyday. just hanging for it.

this is how it is going to be for all of you for the rest of your lives. one
perpetual hanging for it.

go and fucking use some drugs and put yourselves out of your collective
miseries.

if you've found the key to happiness, why are you hanging around with us?
don't we bore you?
diana
.
User: "Mel"

Title: Re: [sci fi, cab drivers mark sue joe chris orville redenbacher, strange flashbacks...bad craziness but i'm SOBER please DO read.. yes this means you!] 30 Aug 2004 10:04:27 PM
On 30 Aug 2004 12:28:38 -0700,
(diana lyster) wrote
in message <d144cd13.0408301128.5a0f33ac@posting.google.com>:

"Mel" <mel@atj.faq.com> wrote

your reaction is the reason i am glad i don't attend NA anymore or hang out
with 12 steppers.
you guys are so unchilled about everything. REEEEE-FUCKING-LAAAAAAAAX!!!!
go smoke some pot and un-fucking-wind. you sure as ***** need it, girl!
ya wanna know why NA people are like that at all the time?
yer hanging for it. constantly. you're all just fucking hanging and hanging
and hanging for it.
you 12 steppers are always worked up about something... all the time.
yer hanging. everyday. just hanging for it.
this is how it is going to be for all of you for the rest of your lives. one
perpetual hanging for it.
go and fucking use some drugs and put yourselves out of your collective
miseries.

if you've found the key to happiness,

okay, diana, here's a clue for you: there's no "key" to happiness.
there's no substance you can ingest to become a happy person. altering your
mood to a state of euphoria is not the same as becoming a happy person.
it's most likely gonna take you a long time to work out how to be happy.
NA's program of complete denial of fun is not the answer. it's unbalanced.
NA forbids you from taking all drugs (even some drugs like codeine that may
never have been a problem for you), all alcohol and even wants people to
abstain from having sex (for the first year).
take a good hard look around you in NA. most of the folks are desperately
unhappy trying very hard to convince themselves and others that they are
glad they're clean. All these people really want to do is get high.
Why do you think people with years clean relapse? Why do they relapse if
being clean is so much better than using?
The bottom line is that the words that come out of their mouths are pure
fantasy. The reality is what they actually DO. And what they do is relapse
and start using drugs again. The vast majority do that.

why are you hanging around with us?

to share my experiences with drugs and NA.

don't we bore you?
diana

nope. it is good for me to see how much NA people struggle.
NA people cannot help each other because they are all so unhappy themselves,
that all they do is get on each others nerves.
the NA zealots are more interested in keeping the NA message pure than in
helping people. they don't give a stuff about anyone. all they care about is
the NA message. they live to pounce on people who adulterate the NA message.
--
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler
member, ATJ regs
webmaster of atjfaq.com
http://www.atjfaq.com/
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http://adderleystreet.co.za/capetown/
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User: "SHARX"

Title: Re: [sci fi, cab drivers mark sue joe chris orville redenbacher, strange flashbacks...bad craziness but i'm SOBER please DO read.. yes this means you!] 29 Aug 2004 11:35:34 PM
Mel wrote:
|| On 29 Aug 2004 11:11:52 -0700,
(diana
|| lyster) wrote in message
|| <d144cd13.0408291011.3faeb4a9@posting.google.com>:
||| well, i had a really trippy bizarre experience and trust me this is
||| worth reading! here i was hanging out with AA people, just hanging
||| out, smoking cigarettes on the couch, watching a sci fi movie about
||| monsters and all kinds of crazy stuff, eating orville redenbacher's
||| popcorn and drinking diet coke with lime, like, you know, no big
||| deal... sue's in a bad mood cause she wants to watch some lame movie
||| called 'jersey girl' and it was just one of those late nite meetings
||| after the meeting, or so i think... we're at this guy chris's house
||| (okay i changed names around a little bit because i didn't want to
||| say guy A and guy B and girl C, etc.) anyway, this guy chris who
||| talks about his MEDS a lot... he drives a cab which is cool but
||| he's a frustrated screenwriter... i think everyone is a frustrated
||| something. anyway, he goes in to take his meds and he comes back
||| out after awhile and we smell POT. sort of just on him although it
||| was this kind of incense-y type of place anyway. like it's 4:00
||| a.m. and we don't know quite what to make of it except that chris
||| is cooler and more relaxed and the rest of us are kind of looking
||| at each other like WTF -- is this for real or is this just
||| something in our minds, you know?
|||
||| long story short, he was smoking pot, because in AA it doesn't count
||| in his mind or whatever, and that's okay for him, and we were like,
||| okay that's okay but we've got to leave. but the smell, and pot was
||| never my drug of choice. but all of a sudden i really wanted to
||| smoke pot. and, if it had been just me and him, well, i'm hoping i
||| would have maintained my sobriety but i don't know.
|||
||| needless to say the rest of us left but we felt bad and weird.
||| he's a really nice guy, just we can't be around alcohol and drugs
||| cause we're addicts. anyway, maybe i'm just looking for attention
||| here and a pat on the back like, good job, diana, you did the right
||| thing for once. because, it is never easy to just say no but i know
||| for a fact that it is the only thing i can do if i want to stay
||| clean and sober. and i had the support of my buddies which was
||| good. and, we pretty much had a meeting unto ourselves after we
||| got out of there, like, wasn't that close, wasn't that scary, and
||| wasn't that weird?
|||
||| diana
||
|| your reaction is the reason i am glad i don't attend NA anymore or
|| hang out with 12 steppers.
||
|| you guys are so unchilled about everything.
|| REEEEE-FUCKING-LAAAAAAAAX!!!!
||
|| go smoke some pot and un-fucking-wind. you sure as ***** need it,
|| girl!
||
|| ya wanna know why NA people are like that at all the time?
||
|| yer hanging for it. constantly. you're all just fucking hanging and
|| hanging and hanging for it.
||
|| you 12 steppers are always worked up about something... all the time.
||
|| yer hanging. everyday. just hanging for it.
||
|| this is how it is going to be for all of you for the rest of your
|| lives. one perpetual hanging for it.
||
|| go and fucking use some drugs and put yourselves out of your
|| collective miseries.
You sound like you ALREADY have!
||
|| --
|| smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
|| Mel the Defiler
|| member, ATJ regs
|| webmaster of atjfaq.com
|| http://www.atjfaq.com/
.
User: "ur_droll"

Title: Re: [sci fi, cab drivers mark sue joe chris orville redenbacher, strange flashbacks...bad craziness but i'm SOBER please DO read.. yes this means you!] 30 Aug 2004 02:51:30 AM
"SHARX" <SHARX@SHARKSTANXnospam.com> wrote in message
news:q8yYc.73921$X12.64189@edtnps84...
: Mel wrote:
: ||
: || go and fucking use some drugs and put yourselves out of your
: || collective miseries.
:
: You sound like you ALREADY have!
:
Yup..... he takes lots of the pink ones.
Unfortunately oestrogen overdoses make him whine like a *****
.
User: "Mel"

Title: Re: [sci fi, cab drivers mark sue joe chris orville redenbacher, strange flashbacks...bad craziness but i'm SOBER please DO read.. yes this means you!] 30 Aug 2004 11:14:00 AM
On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 19:51:30 +1200, "ur_droll" <who.gives@*****.co> wrote in
message <z0BYc.19550$N77.767718@news.xtra.co.nz>:

"SHARX" <SHARX@SHARKSTANXnospam.com> wrote in message
: Mel wrote:
: || go and fucking use some drugs and put yourselves out of your
: || collective miseries.
: You sound like you ALREADY have!
Yup..... he takes lots of the pink ones.
Unfortunately oestrogen overdoses make him whine like a *****

shut up, pothead.
take a real drug and be a real man. stop dicking around with origanum.
<schnort, schnarf, schmoke it up, ya schmuck>
cocaine cocaine cocaine cocaine. say it over and over again.
--
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler
member, ATJ regs
webmaster of atjfaq.com
http://www.atjfaq.com/
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User: "SHARX"

Title: Re: [sci fi, cab drivers mark sue joe chris orville redenbacher, strange flashbacks...bad craziness but i'm SOBER please DO read.. yes this means you!] 30 Aug 2004 04:03:48 AM
ur_droll wrote:
|| "SHARX" <SHARX@SHARKSTANXnospam.com> wrote in message
|| news:q8yYc.73921$X12.64189@edtnps84...
||| Mel wrote:
|||||
||||| go and fucking use some drugs and put yourselves out of your
||||| collective miseries.
|||
||| You sound like you ALREADY have!
|||
||
|| Yup..... he takes lots of the pink ones.
|| Unfortunately oestrogen overdoses make him whine like a *****
Wonder if they make him wet?
.
User: "ur_droll"

Title: Re: [sci fi, cab drivers mark sue joe chris orville redenbacher, strange flashbacks...bad craziness but i'm SOBER please DO read.. yes this means you!] 30 Aug 2004 05:30:27 AM
"SHARX" <SHARX@SHARKSTANXnospam.com> wrote in message
news:U3CYc.34584$A8.23473@edtnps89...
: ur_droll wrote:
: || "SHARX" <SHARX@SHARKSTANXnospam.com> wrote in message
: || news:q8yYc.73921$X12.64189@edtnps84...
: ||| Mel wrote:
: |||||
: ||||| go and fucking use some drugs and put yourselves out of your
: ||||| collective miseries.
: |||
: ||| You sound like you ALREADY have!
: |||
: ||
: || Yup..... he takes lots of the pink ones.
: || Unfortunately oestrogen overdoses make him whine like a *****
:
: Wonder if they make him wet?
I'd rather not
.



User: "Mel"

Title: Re: [sci fi, cab drivers mark sue joe chris orville redenbacher, strange flashbacks...bad craziness but i'm SOBER please DO read.. yes this means you!] 30 Aug 2004 02:22:26 AM
On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 04:35:34 GMT, "SHARX" <SHARX@SHARKSTANXnospam.com> wrote
in message <q8yYc.73921$X12.64189@edtnps84>:

Mel wrote:
|| go and fucking use some drugs and put yourselves out of your
|| collective miseries.
You sound like you ALREADY have!

you're hanging for it too. you're ALL just hanging for it.
go use some drugs and stop hanging.
you people have NO solution.
--
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler
member, ATJ regs
webmaster of atjfaq.com
http://www.atjfaq.com/
.
User: "Kai R"

Title: Re: [sci fi, cab drivers mark sue joe chris orville redenbacher,strange flashbacks...bad craziness but i'm SOBER please DO read.. yes thismeans you!] 30 Aug 2004 02:28:28 AM
Mel wrote:

On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 04:35:34 GMT, "SHARX" <SHARX@SHARKSTANXnospam.com> wrote
in message <q8yYc.73921$X12.64189@edtnps84>:

Mel wrote:
|| go and fucking use some drugs and put yourselves out of your
|| collective miseries.
You sound like you ALREADY have!



you're hanging for it too. you're ALL just hanging for it.

We all are, Richard, so quit your whining. You sound like a fat shemale.
--
Kai
It's great to be smart 'cause then you know stuff.
.
User: "Mel"

Title: Re: [sci fi, cab drivers mark sue joe chris orville redenbacher, strange flashbacks...bad craziness but i'm SOBER please DO read.. yes this means you!] 30 Aug 2004 08:45:04 AM
On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 10:28:28 +0300, Kai R <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
<cgukut$le1$1@phys-news1.kolumbus.fi>:

Mel wrote:

On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 04:35:34 GMT, "SHARX" <SHARX@SHARKSTANXnospam.com> wrote

Mel wrote:
|| go and fucking use some drugs and put yourselves out of your
|| collective miseries.
You sound like you ALREADY have!

you're hanging for it too. you're ALL just hanging for it.

We all are, Richard, so quit your whining. You sound like a fat shemale.

ha ha. you seem to know what they sound like. LOL LOL LOL
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
*****, yer a joke.
--
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler
member, ATJ regs
webmaster of atjfaq.com
http://www.atjfaq.com/
.
User: "Kai R"

Title: Re: [sci fi, cab drivers mark sue joe chris orville redenbacher,strange flashbacks...bad craziness but i'm SOBER please DO read.. yes thismeans you!] 30 Aug 2004 10:28:10 AM
Mel wrote:

On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 10:28:28 +0300, Kai R <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
<cgukut$le1$1@phys-news1.kolumbus.fi>:

Mel wrote:

On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 04:35:34 GMT, "SHARX" <SHARX@SHARKSTANXnospam.com> wrote

Mel wrote:
|| go and fucking use some drugs and put yourselves out of your
|| collective miseries.
You sound like you ALREADY have!


you're hanging for it too. you're ALL just hanging for it.


We all are, Richard, so quit your whining. You sound like a fat shemale.



ha ha. you seem to know what they sound like. LOL LOL LOL

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

*****, yer a joke.

Darn. Every time I get that damned "Your momma!", I'm beaten. There's
just no response good enough.
Kai
.



User: "SHARX"

Title: Re: [sci fi, cab drivers mark sue joe chris orville redenbacher, strange flashbacks...bad craziness but i'm SOBER please DO read.. yes this means you!] 30 Aug 2004 04:03:17 AM
Mel wrote:
|| On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 04:35:34 GMT, "SHARX"
|| <SHARX@SHARKSTANXnospam.com> wrote in message
|| <q8yYc.73921$X12.64189@edtnps84>:
||| Mel wrote:
||||| go and fucking use some drugs and put yourselves out of your
||||| collective miseries.
||| You sound like you ALREADY have!
||
|| you're hanging for it too. you're ALL just hanging for it.
||
|| go use some drugs and stop hanging.
||
|| you people have NO solution.
What are you EVEN doing here, Mr. Know it all?
||
|| --
|| smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
|| Mel the Defiler
|| member, ATJ regs
|| webmaster of atjfaq.com
|| http://www.atjfaq.com/
.
User: "Mel"

Title: Re: [sci fi, cab drivers mark sue joe chris orville redenbacher, strange flashbacks...bad craziness but i'm SOBER please DO read.. yes this means you!] 30 Aug 2004 11:13:58 AM
On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 09:03:17 GMT, "SHARX" <SHARX@SHARKSTANXnospam.com> wrote
in message <p3CYc.34580$A8.11518@edtnps89>:

Mel wrote:
|| On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 04:35:34 GMT, "SHARX"
||| Mel wrote:
||||| go and fucking use some drugs and put yourselves out of your
||||| collective miseries.
||| You sound like you ALREADY have!
|| you're hanging for it too. you're ALL just hanging for it.
|| go use some drugs and stop hanging.
|| you people have NO solution.
What are you EVEN doing here, Mr. Know it all?

think of me as The Oracle in The Matrix. I show you what you already know.
i used to live in an upmarket loft apartment not 100m from an NA meeting -
that was back in 1999 (Dec 98 - Feb 2000). I relapsed often and my
attendance at NA was extremely patchy. Anyway I used to often drive past the
NA meeting on the way to score crack. I used to be able to catch a glimpse
of the meeting in progress as I sped by in my upmarket new model Ford Escort
(98 model). I used to smile at the saps inside and think to myself that what
they really wanted to do was go get some drugs like I was doing. I don't
think I was wrong.
I know that most of the folks I met in NA were tense and very tightly wound
most of the time. In fact, people years clean are mostly still like that.
They've been absolutely hanging for years for drugs and it's played havoc
with their moods and temperament.
Drugs have totally ruined them. They cannot unboil their heads. Their brains
have been fried by drugs and now they will hanker after them for the rest of
their lives. They are denying themselves what they ultimately crave and
nothing can satisfy their cravings.
They can only be happy again when they know that they are going to use.
They're hanging for drugs for the rest of their lives.
There is no hope for them. They might as well spend their remaining years
using and at least die high, rather than lead fucking miserable lives,
pretending that they're better off now that they are clean.
It's all just so very very sad.
--
smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler
member, ATJ regs
webmaster of atjfaq.com
http://www.atjfaq.com/
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