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05 Aug 2005 10:51:38 PM |
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Re: Scientific Accuracies of the Bible |
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On Sat, 6 Aug 2005 09:26:36 +1000, "Mark T" <wwwwwh@tdoyoumean.185>
wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved. NO portion of this
article can be reproduced in any form anywhere else without express
written consent of the author
<bdratzsch@aol.com> wrote:
As to scientific implication
1001 Errors in the Christian Bible
http://hometown.aol.com/abdulreis/myhomepage/
MOSTLY imagined, or shallow "skimming" for "errors" or TRUE
non-studied repetition of the "skimming" of others, ALL with agendas
of their own.
In my own 40 + years of study, I have found VERY few "problems" in the
Bible that couldn't be resolved by some intensive study.
Biblical Inconsistencies
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/inconsistencies.shtml
AGAIN, imagined.
jw
No Answers In Genesis
http://home.austarnet.com.au/stear/
mos
Scientific Boo-boos in the Bible
http://www.infidels.org/library/magazines/tsr/1991/1/1boobo91.html
mos
Skeptics Annotated Bible
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/
If you want to believe, you will find reasons in the Bible; if you do
not want to believe, you find reasons whether they are in the Bible or
not.
It is best to approach the Bible WITHOUT an agenda, and just let it
speak for itself.
I also note that this poster didn't BOTHER with answering the
previous two posts.
jw
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| User: "Dubh Ghall" |
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| Title: Re: Scientific Accuracies of the Bible |
07 Aug 2005 07:31:31 AM |
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On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 20:51:38 -0700, jw <jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote:
If you want to believe, you will find reasons in the Bible;
I learned the lie of that claim, many years ago.
It is best to approach the Bible WITHOUT an agenda, and just let it
speak for itself.
If everybody did that, there would be no xtians.
--
Puck Greenman
The spelling, Like any opinion stated here,
is purely my own
#162 BAAWA Knight.
Plonked by Rob Duncan
Na bister 500,000
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| User: "Don - - - - - ---" |
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| Title: Re: Scientific Accuracies of the Bible |
05 Aug 2005 11:10:26 PM |
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On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 20:51:38 -0700, jw <jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote:
In my own 40 + years of study, I have found VERY few "problems" in the
Bible that couldn't be resolved by some intensive study.
In your own "40 + years of study," have you found Bible passages that
allow you to sell porn on the internet?
I also note that this poster didn't BOTHER with answering the
previous two posts.
I also note that you did not directly address even one single issue.
"PRAISE THE LORD!"
---This phrase is often used when something good happens by attributing it to the Lord,
like getting a new car or getting out of the hospital. It is never used, though,
if someone dies or a plane crashes and all the passengers are killed.
This is only used when the Lord does good stuff, never when
the Lord sends a tsunami and kills over 100,000 people.)
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| User: "jw" |
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| Title: Re: Scientific Accuracies of the Bible |
06 Aug 2005 03:26:12 AM |
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On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 04:10:26 GMT, Don <- - - - - ---
somebody@worldwide.net> wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved. NO portion of this
article can be reproduced in any form anywhere else without express
written consent of the author
On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 20:51:38 -0700, jw <jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote:
In my own 40 + years of study, I have found VERY few "problems" in the
Bible that couldn't be resolved by some intensive study.
In your own "40 + years of study,"
Do YOU EVER even READ the Bible, or are you always just too busy
attacking Christians?
Ted.
jw
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: Scientific Accuracies of the Bible |
06 Aug 2005 04:39:59 AM |
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On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 01:26:12 -0700 in alt.atheism, jw
<jw<no>@yoo.hoo> (jw <jw<no>@yoo.hoo>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
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On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 04:10:26 GMT, Don <- - - - - ---
somebody@worldwide.net> wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved. NO portion of this
article can be reproduced in any form anywhere else without express
written consent of the author
On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 20:51:38 -0700, jw <jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote:
In my own 40 + years of study, I have found VERY few "problems" in the
Bible that couldn't be resolved by some intensive study.
In your own "40 + years of study,"
Do YOU EVER even READ the Bible, or are you always just too busy
attacking Christians?
If the Bible is "scientifically accurate" why is recognition of the
"fact" solely ex post facto?
This is to say that I'd be inclined to take the claim that the Bible
is more scientifically accurate than the cultural level of its various
authors would suggest ("supernaturally scientifically accurate?!) a
bit more seriously if your exegesis revealed a new fact or theory
which could subsequently be validated by the scientific method, rather
than the usual method of "freely interpreting" various passages to
agree with what's currently know through science.
For example, some Christians hold that Psalm 90 Verse 4 hints at time
dilation. e.g.
http://www.bible-quotes-science-info.com/art/einstein-theory-relativity.htm
"For a thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone
by, or like a watch in the night." (NIV).
Personally, I'd be a lot more inclined to believe this kind of thing
had some pre-Einstein theology scholar taken a look at that passage
and noted "obviously implies that t' = 1/ sqrt(1-v^2)" or similar.
Which is to say that recognition of the "scientific asides" of the
Bible are always after the fact and never before it.
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| User: "Dubh Ghall" |
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| Title: Re: Scientific Accuracies of the Bible |
07 Aug 2005 07:33:07 AM |
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On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 01:26:12 -0700, jw <jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote:
Do YOU EVER even READ the Bible,
READing the bible, is probably how he got to be an atheist, in the first place.
--
Puck Greenman
The spelling, Like any opinion stated here,
is purely my own
#162 BAAWA Knight.
Plonked by Rob Duncan
Na bister 500,000
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| User: "Don - - - - - ---" |
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| Title: Re: Scientific Accuracies of the Bible |
06 Aug 2005 11:00:38 AM |
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On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 01:26:12 -0700, jw <jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote:
x-no-archive: yes
On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 04:10:26 GMT, Don <- - - - - ---
somebody@worldwide.net> wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved. NO portion of this
article can be reproduced in any form anywhere else without express
written consent of the author
On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 20:51:38 -0700, jw <jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote:
In my own 40 + years of study, I have found VERY few "problems" in the
Bible that couldn't be resolved by some intensive study.
In your own "40 + years of study,"
Do YOU EVER even READ the Bible, or are you always just too busy
attacking Christians?
Ted.
jw
Weatherly, why did you delete the question without answering it? Here
it is again for ya:
In your own "40 + years of study," have you found Bible passages that
allow you to sell porn on the internet?
"PRAISE THE LORD!"
---This phrase is often used when something good happens by attributing it to the Lord,
like getting a new car or getting out of the hospital. It is never used, though,
if someone dies or a plane crashes and all the passengers are killed.
This is only used when the Lord does good stuff, never when
the Lord sends a tsunami and kills over 100,000 people.)
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| User: "Jos Flachs no x, please" |
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| Title: Re: Scientific Accuracies of the Bible |
06 Aug 2005 07:06:25 PM |
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On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 01:26:12 -0700, jw <jw<no>@yoo.hoo> yoo.hoo-ed to
alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.christnet.evangelical,alt.religion.christian.baptist,alt.atheism:
In your own "40 + years of study,"
Do YOU EVER even READ the Bible, or are you always just too busy
attacking Christians?
The question was:
In your own "40 + years of study," have you found Bible passages that
allow you to sell porn on the internet?
I notice too that you did not directly address even one single issue.
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| User: "VO" |
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| Title: Re: Scientific Accuracies of the Bible |
06 Aug 2005 08:46:52 PM |
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"Jos Flachs" <XwcruiseX@ksc15.th.com (no x, please)> wrote in message
news:9519f152i44410nbufuehpbm2cgmid1t49@4ax.com...
On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 01:26:12 -0700, jw <jw<no>@yoo.hoo> yoo.hoo-ed to
alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.christnet.evangelical,alt.religion.christian.baptist,alt.atheism:
In your own "40 + years of study,"
Do YOU EVER even READ the Bible, or are you always just too busy
attacking Christians?
The question was:
In your own "40 + years of study," have you found Bible passages that
allow you to sell porn on the internet?
Actually
1. Define porn.
2. In your own "XX + years of study," have you found Bible passages that
allow you to post on the internet?
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| User: "Ash" |
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| Title: Re: Scientific Accuracies of the Bible |
07 Aug 2005 06:41:01 AM |
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VO wrote:
"Jos Flachs" <XwcruiseX@ksc15.th.com (no x, please)> wrote in message
news:9519f152i44410nbufuehpbm2cgmid1t49@4ax.com...
On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 01:26:12 -0700, jw <jw<no>@yoo.hoo> yoo.hoo-ed to
alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.christnet.evangelical,alt.religion.christian.baptist,alt.atheism:
In your own "40 + years of study,"
Do YOU EVER even READ the Bible, or are you always just too busy
attacking Christians?
The question was:
In your own "40 + years of study," have you found Bible passages that
allow you to sell porn on the internet?
Actually
1. Define porn.
2. In your own "XX + years of study," have you found Bible passages that
allow you to post on the internet?
I doubt he cares what bible passages say on the issue
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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| Title: Re: Scientific Accuracies of the Bible |
06 Aug 2005 07:30:47 PM |
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Jos Flachs wrote:
On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 01:26:12 -0700, jw <jw<no>@yoo.hoo> yoo.hoo-ed to
alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.christnet.evangelical,alt.religion.christian.baptist,alt.atheism:
In your own "40 + years of study,"
Do YOU EVER even READ the Bible, or are you always just too busy
attacking Christians?
The question was:
In your own "40 + years of study," have you found Bible passages that
allow you to sell porn on the internet?
Well, the Bible does tell of "They that are happy to dash the young ones
upon the rocks." Maybe "young ones" was a metaphor about sperm and
semen... Hm.
--
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
*--------------------------------------------------*
* "No one ever demonstrated, so far as I am aware, *
* the non-existence of Zeus or Thor - but they *
* have few followers now." Arthur C. Clarke *
****************************************************
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| User: "Ash" |
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| Title: Re: Scientific Accuracies of the Bible |
06 Aug 2005 07:27:43 AM |
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jw <jw wrote:
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On Sat, 6 Aug 2005 09:26:36 +1000, "Mark T" <wwwwwh@tdoyoumean.185>
wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved. NO portion of this
article can be reproduced in any form anywhere else without express
written consent of the author
<bdratzsch@aol.com> wrote:
As to scientific implication
1001 Errors in the Christian Bible
http://hometown.aol.com/abdulreis/myhomepage/
MOSTLY imagined, or shallow "skimming" for "errors" or TRUE
non-studied repetition of the "skimming" of others, ALL with agendas
of their own.
In my own 40 + years of study, I have found VERY few "problems" in the
Bible that couldn't be resolved by some intensive study.
Biblical Inconsistencies
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/inconsistencies.shtml
AGAIN, imagined.
jw
No Answers In Genesis
http://home.austarnet.com.au/stear/
mos
Scientific Boo-boos in the Bible
http://www.infidels.org/library/magazines/tsr/1991/1/1boobo91.html
mos
Skeptics Annotated Bible
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/
If you want to believe, you will find reasons in the Bible; if you do
not want to believe, you find reasons whether they are in the Bible or
not.
It is best to approach the Bible WITHOUT an agenda, and just let it
speak for itself.
and most people who do so find it riddled with inacuracies and
inconsistancies
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| User: "ToniG" |
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| Title: Re: Scientific Accuracies of the Bible |
06 Aug 2005 05:53:14 PM |
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"Ash" <ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dd2ac0$9qh$3@
It is best to approach the Bible WITHOUT an agenda, and just let it
speak for itself.
and most people who do so find it riddled with inacuracies and
inconsistancies
Damn right!
I suppose you've seen these...?
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/inconsistencies.html
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/absurd.html
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/flaws.html
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/atrocity.html
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/precepts.html
T.
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| User: "Ash" |
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06 Aug 2005 06:50:05 PM |
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ToniG wrote:
"Ash" <ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dd2ac0$9qh$3@
It is best to approach the Bible WITHOUT an agenda, and just let it
speak for itself.
and most people who do so find it riddled with inacuracies and
inconsistancies
Damn right!
I suppose you've seen these...?
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/inconsistencies.html
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/absurd.html
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/flaws.html
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/atrocity.html
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/precepts.html
Possibly some of them, there is an immesne amount on infidels.org, far
too much for me to have read all of it
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| User: "R. Pierce Butler" |
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| Title: Re: Scientific Accuracies of the Bible |
05 Aug 2005 11:23:48 PM |
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jw <jw<no>@yoo.hoo> wrote in news:jnc8f1h6qvjnnpu8pbbs50odnreqvst07a@4ax.com:
In my own 40 + years of study, I have found VERY few "problems" in the
Bible that couldn't be resolved by some intensive study.
If it takes 40 years of study to resolve the absudities in the bible I don't
call that study, I call that brainwashing.
I have spent many years studying the bible as a christian. I finally tossed
all of it and have now decalared the bible 100% *****. Do you want to
know why I call the bible 100% *****? Because it is 100% *****.
rj
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