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Religions > Atheism |
| User: |
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| Date: |
18 Dec 2006 06:13:12 AM |
| Object: |
Re: Separation - Church and State |
"birdog" <birdog@aol.com> wrote:
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:|"Dave" <supradave@yahoo.com> wrote in message
:|news:nv6dnVI1oZWEpB7YnZ2dnUVZ_qmpnZ2d@giganews.com...
:|> birdog wrote:
:|>> Is this the statement that brought on the bastardization of the 1st
:|>> Amend.?
:|>>
:|>> Note: This, or any other of this nature, has no authority of law, and
:|>> certainly no effect on the language in the Constitution.
:|>>
:|>> Can anyone explain to me where/how the language in the Constitution
:|>> allows
:|>> prohibiting the free exercise of religion?
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:|No one here answered my question. A lot of indignant postulating.
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:|The 1st Amend. says that the feds. cannot ESTABLISH a religion nor prohibit
:|the FREE exercise thereof.
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Actuallym it doesn't say that at all
The acutal wording is different from your invented wording
"birdog" <birdog@aol.com> wrote:
:|Is this the statement that brought on the bastardization of the 1st Amend.?
:|
:|Note: This, or any other of this nature, has no authority of law, and
:|certainly no effect on the language in the Constitution.
Neither Jefferson or any letters of his "created" the Constitutional
Principle of church state Separation
Church state separation is found in the unamended constitution directly
the religious test ban clause indirectly the rest of the unamended
constitution.
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:|Can anyone explain to me where/how the language in the Constitution allows
:|prohibiting the free exercise of religion?
The word itself You can limit, restrict something without prohibiting it
One can limit or restrict the hours a child spends watching tv without
prohibiting them from watching tv
The only thin absolute about free exercise is belief. Yo can believe
anything you want but you aren't and never have been, even at the time of
the framing of the BORs permitted total absolute actions on those beliefs
Free-exercise clause
http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/rel_liberty/free_exercise/index.aspx
State Constitutions that mentioned free exercise in 1789 also had wording
that limited actions
State Constitutions
Introduction (Original and Early State Constitutions)
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/cnstntro.htm
State Constitution (Religious Sections) - Connecticut
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/cnst_cn.htm
State Constitution (Religious Sections) - Delaware
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/cnst_de.htm
State Constitution (Religious Sections) - Georgia
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/cnst_ga.htm
State Constitution (Religious Sections) - Massachusetts
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/cnst_ma.htm
State Constitution (Religious Sections) - Maryland
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/cnst_md.htm
State Constitution (Religious Sections) - North Carolina
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/cnst_nc.htm
State Constitution (Religious Sections) - New Hampshire
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/cnst_nh.htm
State Constitution (Religious Sections) - New Jersey
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/cnst_nj.htm
State Constitution (Religious Sections) - New York
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/cnst_ny.htm
State Constitution (Religious Sections) - Pennsylvania
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/cnst_pa.htm
State Constitution (Religious Sections) - Rhode Island
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/cnst_ri.htm
State Constitution (Religious Sections) - South Carolina
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/cnst_sc.htm
State Constitution (Religious Sections) - Virginia
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/cnst_va.htm
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You are invited to check out the following:
The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm
American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm
The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]
HRSepCnS · Hampton Roads [Virginia] SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
[Its not just Hampton Roads folks who are members, there are members from
all over the US and a couple from overseas as well]
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.. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
.. . .
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That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
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It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
almost every media turn.
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THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
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