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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Kurt Nicklas"
Date: 07 Jun 2007 10:26:38 AM
Object: Re: #Sicko? The truth abut the US medical system
On Jun 6, 10:00 am, "Dr. Barry Worthington" <s...@abertay.ac.uk>
wrote:

On 6 Jun, 12:28, Kurt Nicklas <nickl...@bellsouth.net> wrote:





On Jun 6, 7:13 am, "Dr.BarryWorthington" <s...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote:


On 6 Jun, 11:12, Kurt Nicklas <nickl...@bellsouth.net> wrote:


On Jun 6, 5:56 am, "Dr.BarryWorthington" <s...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote:


On 6 Jun, 05:44, "edi...@netpath.net" <edi...@netpath.net> wrote:


On Jun 5, 11:57 pm, 3497 Dead <zepp22113...@finestplanet.com> quoted
some article:


Cynthia Kline knew exactly what was happening to her when she
suffered a heart attack at her home in Cambridge, Massachusetts. She
took the time to call an ambulance, popped some nitroglycerin tablets
she had been prescribed in anticipation of just such an emergency, and
waited for help to arrive.


On paper, everything should have gone fine. Unlike tens of
millions of Americans, she had health insurance coverage. The
ambulance team arrived promptly. The hospital where she had been
receiving treatment for her cardiac problems, a private teaching
facility affiliated with the Harvard Medical School, was just a few
minutes away.


The problem was, the casualty department at the hospital, Mount
Auburn, was full to overflowing. And it turned her away. The ambulance
took her to another nearby hospital but the treatment she needed, an
emergency catheterisation, was not available there. A flurry of phone
calls to other medical facilities in the Boston area came up empty.
With a few hours, Cynthia Kline was dead.


Exact same thing happens in Socialized Medicine Britain; read the
London "mainstream" dailies - and you'll know all about it. Despite
the huge taxes to support socialized medicine there, Brit hospitals in
urban areas are so grossly overcrowded that a scandal erupted there in
the past five years over many doing "involuntary euthanasia" on old
patients - just to clear bed space!


You are, of course, talking rubbish. But then, I only have extensive
experience of the NHS and happen to live here.


Start here, Harry:


http://www.angelfire.com/pa/sergeman/issues/healthcare/socialized.htm...text -


But you are a nutter! Bugger off, and take your website with you......


What a silly little man you are.


I can't stand people who won't put up a decent argument
themselves.....


Providing cites is part of an argument, Harry. Get real.


You didn't provide a cite. If you don't realise that, there's nothing
more to be said.

Okay, Harry, you want some cites proving that "socialized medicine"
is legitimate, frequently used term here? Here are a few:
"Universal health care is typically the goal of socialized medicine
but the two terms are often used interchangeably by politicians. The
difference is that socialized medicine is an implementation while
universal health care is an effect."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialized_medicine
http://www.theadvocates.org/freeman/8903lemi.html
http://www.slate.com/id/2114554/
http://jmchar.people.wm.edu/Kin493/socmed.html
Here's one from the American Assoc. of Physicians and Surgeons:
http://www.aapsonline.org/sma.php
I could go on, Harry, but you get the point.
Don't you?.........
.

User: "3497 Dead"

Title: Re: #Sicko? The truth abut the US medical system 07 Jun 2007 10:29:24 AM
On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 15:26:38 -0000, Kurt Nicklas
<nicklask@bellsouth.net> wrote:

On Jun 6, 10:00 am, "Dr. Barry Worthington" <s...@abertay.ac.uk>
wrote:

On 6 Jun, 12:28, Kurt Nicklas <nickl...@bellsouth.net> wrote:





On Jun 6, 7:13 am, "Dr.BarryWorthington" <s...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote:


On 6 Jun, 11:12, Kurt Nicklas <nickl...@bellsouth.net> wrote:


On Jun 6, 5:56 am, "Dr.BarryWorthington" <s...@abertay.ac.uk> wrote:


On 6 Jun, 05:44, "edi...@netpath.net" <edi...@netpath.net> wrote:


On Jun 5, 11:57 pm, 3497 Dead <zepp22113...@finestplanet.com> quoted
some article:


Cynthia Kline knew exactly what was happening to her when she
suffered a heart attack at her home in Cambridge, Massachusetts. She
took the time to call an ambulance, popped some nitroglycerin tablets
she had been prescribed in anticipation of just such an emergency, and
waited for help to arrive.


On paper, everything should have gone fine. Unlike tens of
millions of Americans, she had health insurance coverage. The
ambulance team arrived promptly. The hospital where she had been
receiving treatment for her cardiac problems, a private teaching
facility affiliated with the Harvard Medical School, was just a few
minutes away.


The problem was, the casualty department at the hospital, Mount
Auburn, was full to overflowing. And it turned her away. The ambulance
took her to another nearby hospital but the treatment she needed, an
emergency catheterisation, was not available there. A flurry of phone
calls to other medical facilities in the Boston area came up empty.
With a few hours, Cynthia Kline was dead.


Exact same thing happens in Socialized Medicine Britain; read the
London "mainstream" dailies - and you'll know all about it. Despite
the huge taxes to support socialized medicine there, Brit hospitals in
urban areas are so grossly overcrowded that a scandal erupted there in
the past five years over many doing "involuntary euthanasia" on old
patients - just to clear bed space!


You are, of course, talking rubbish. But then, I only have extensive
experience of the NHS and happen to live here.


Start here, Harry:


http://www.angelfire.com/pa/sergeman/issues/healthcare/socialized.htm...text -


But you are a nutter! Bugger off, and take your website with you......


What a silly little man you are.


I can't stand people who won't put up a decent argument
themselves.....


Providing cites is part of an argument, Harry. Get real.


You didn't provide a cite. If you don't realise that, there's nothing
more to be said.


Okay, Harry, you want some cites proving that "socialized medicine"
is legitimate, frequently used term here? Here are a few:

"Universal health care is typically the goal of socialized medicine
but the two terms are often used interchangeably by politicians. The
difference is that socialized medicine is an implementation while
universal health care is an effect."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialized_medicine

http://www.theadvocates.org/freeman/8903lemi.html

http://www.slate.com/id/2114554/

http://jmchar.people.wm.edu/Kin493/socmed.html

Here's one from the American Assoc. of Physicians and Surgeons:

http://www.aapsonline.org/sma.php

I could go on, Harry, but you get the point.

Don't you?.........

Knickers just proved the Doctor's point: that the term is the province
of right wing loons.


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