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"Kurt Nicklas" |
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15 Sep 2005 05:03:12 AM |
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Re: #Sorry, Putsch: Katrina is not 9/11 |
In article <dg59d7$3lv$1@news.seed.net.tw>, Peacenik says...
"1896 Dead" <zepp1896#2211finestplanet.com@> wrote in message
news:lv1bi19k6p43mj5u2dv4dkjeil4v4lsgm4@4ax.com...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/katrina/story/0,16441,1567841,00.html
Sorry Mr President, Katrina is not 9/11
America this weekend marked the fourth anniversary of 9/11 as anger
over the hurricane continued to mount. The two disasters, says Simon
Schama, revealed very different faces of the same country
Monday September 12, 2005
The Guardian
Slipstreaming behind the annual rituals of sorrow and reverence for
9/11, George W Bush has decreed that, five days later, on the 16th,
there is to be a further day of solemnities on which the nation will
pray for the unnumbered victims of Hurricane Katrina. Prayers (like
vacations) are the default mode for this president who knows how to
chuckle and bow the head in the midst of disaster but not, when it
counts, how to govern or to command.
"Hands that help are far better than lips that pray" - Robert J. Ingersoll
"The first requisite for the happiness of the people is the abolition of
religion" - Karl Marx
That's what you're REALLY after, right Chrissie?
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Kurt Nicklas
Vocatus atque non vocatus deus aderit
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| User: "Ordog" |
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15 Sep 2005 05:52:52 AM |
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Kurt Nicklas wrote:
In article <dg59d7$3lv$1@news.seed.net.tw>, Peacenik says...
<SNIP>
"Hands that help are far better than lips that pray" - Robert J. Ingersoll
"The first requisite for the happiness of the people is the abolition of
religion" - Karl Marx
This this sums it up quite well! After all you do not even need
religion for theism. So stuff the mind control and mass manupulation
bits and we could build a happier society.
One might choose to criticise Marx for some of his ideas but definitely
not for this one!
Ordog
"Beware of the man whose God is in the skies." Bernard Shaw
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| User: "nevermore" |
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15 Sep 2005 07:07:26 PM |
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On 15 Sep 2005 03:52:52 -0700, "Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com>
wrote:
Kurt Nicklas wrote:
In article <dg59d7$3lv$1@news.seed.net.tw>, Peacenik says...
<SNIP>
"Hands that help are far better than lips that pray" - Robert J. Ingersoll
"The first requisite for the happiness of the people is the abolition of
religion" - Karl Marx
This this sums it up quite well! After all you do not even need
religion for theism. So stuff the mind control and mass manupulation
bits and we could build a happier society.
One might choose to criticise Marx for some of his ideas but definitely
not for this one!
<LOL> That kind of totalitarian thinking is pretty consistent with
socialism, all right....
--
Steve
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| User: "Ordog" |
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15 Sep 2005 09:58:20 PM |
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nevermore wrote:
On 15 Sep 2005 03:52:52 -0700, "Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com>
wrote:
Kurt Nicklas wrote:
In article <dg59d7$3lv$1@news.seed.net.tw>, Peacenik says...
<SNIP>
"Hands that help are far better than lips that pray" - Robert J. Ingersoll
"The first requisite for the happiness of the people is the abolition of
religion" - Karl Marx
This this sums it up quite well! After all you do not even need
religion for theism. So stuff the mind control and mass manupulation
bits and we could build a happier society.
One might choose to criticise Marx for some of his ideas but definitely
not for this one!
<LOL> That kind of totalitarian thinking is pretty consistent with
socialism, all right....
So you call theocracy better than socialism! Why do you not migrate to
Iran?
Your attitude just confirms that religionis not about belief in God but
strictly about having power over the society!
Ordog
"Beware of the man whose God is in the skies." Bernard Shaw
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| User: "nevermore" |
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16 Sep 2005 05:54:07 AM |
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On 15 Sep 2005 19:58:20 -0700, "Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com>
wrote:
nevermore wrote:
On 15 Sep 2005 03:52:52 -0700, "Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com>
wrote:
Kurt Nicklas wrote:
In article <dg59d7$3lv$1@news.seed.net.tw>, Peacenik says...
<SNIP>
"Hands that help are far better than lips that pray" - Robert J. Ingersoll
"The first requisite for the happiness of the people is the abolition of
religion" - Karl Marx
This this sums it up quite well! After all you do not even need
religion for theism. So stuff the mind control and mass manupulation
bits and we could build a happier society.
One might choose to criticise Marx for some of his ideas but definitely
not for this one!
<LOL> That kind of totalitarian thinking is pretty consistent with
socialism, all right....
So you call theocracy better than socialism!
No, and you should learn to read...
why do you not migrate to
Iran?
Well for one thing, as I made clear above, I wouldn't like living
under a totalitarian government.
Your attitude just confirms that religionis not about belief in God but
strictly about having power over the society!
<LOL> If you think that not liking the idea of "abolishing religion"
means that, you're too dumb to be classified as a moron.
Ordog
"Beware of the man whose God is in the skies." Bernard Shaw
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Steve
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| User: "Ordog" |
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16 Sep 2005 06:57:35 AM |
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nevermore wrote:
On 15 Sep 2005 19:58:20 -0700, "Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com>
wrote:
Kurt Nicklas wrote:
In article <dg59d7$3lv$1@news.seed.net.tw>, Peacenik says...
<SNIP>
"Hands that help are far better than lips that pray" - Robert J. Ingersoll
"The first requisite for the happiness of the people is the abolition of
religion" - Karl Marx
This this sums it up quite well! After all you do not even need
religion for theism. So stuff the mind control and mass manupulation
bits and we could build a happier society.
One might choose to criticise Marx for some of his ideas but definitely
not for this one!
<LOL> That kind of totalitarian thinking is pretty consistent with
socialism, all right....
So you call theocracy better than socialism!
No, and you should learn to read...
why do you not migrate to
Iran?
Well for one thing, as I made clear above, I wouldn't like living
under a totalitarian government.
Iran is a "democratic" theocracy. Somewhat similar to Texas!
Your attitude just confirms that religion is not about belief in God but
strictly about having power over the society!
<LOL> If you think that not liking the idea of "abolishing religion"
means that, you're too dumb to be classified as a moron.
Abolishing in this case means freeing the society from this burden. I
do not advocate (nor did Marx) that state should prosecute people for
believing in gods of their choices. This interpretation of socialism
was manufactured for political reasons during the years of anti
communists hysterics in the USA,
But as it stands now religious fundies world wide are showing the
reason why Marx was bloody well spot on regarding this issue! You can
not live in peace as long as religions exist. If they don't fight the
non-believers than they fight each other.
Ordog
"Beware of the man whose God is in the skies." Bernard Shaw
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| User: "nevermore" |
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16 Sep 2005 09:09:49 AM |
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On 16 Sep 2005 04:57:35 -0700, "Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com>
wrote:
nevermore wrote:
On 15 Sep 2005 19:58:20 -0700, "Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com>
wrote:
Kurt Nicklas wrote:
In article <dg59d7$3lv$1@news.seed.net.tw>, Peacenik says...
<SNIP>
"Hands that help are far better than lips that pray" - Robert J. Ingersoll
"The first requisite for the happiness of the people is the abolition of
religion" - Karl Marx
This this sums it up quite well! After all you do not even need
religion for theism. So stuff the mind control and mass manupulation
bits and we could build a happier society.
One might choose to criticise Marx for some of his ideas but definitely
not for this one!
<LOL> That kind of totalitarian thinking is pretty consistent with
socialism, all right....
So you call theocracy better than socialism!
No, and you should learn to read...
why do you not migrate to
Iran?
Well for one thing, as I made clear above, I wouldn't like living
under a totalitarian government.
Iran is a "democratic" theocracy. Somewhat similar to Texas!
See my comment below about you being too dumber than a moron.
Your attitude just confirms that religion is not about belief in God but
strictly about having power over the society!
<LOL> If you think that not liking the idea of "abolishing religion"
means that, you're too dumb to be classified as a moron.
Abolishing in this case means freeing the society from this burden. I
do not advocate (nor did Marx) that state should prosecute people for
believing in gods of their choices.
Go look up "abolish."
This interpretation of socialism
was manufactured for political reasons during the years of anti
communists hysterics in the USA,
The association of Marxism with forced secularism came directly from
Marx's own words...
But as it stands now religious fundies world wide are showing the
reason why Marx was bloody well spot on regarding this issue! You can
not live in peace as long as religions exist. If they don't fight the
non-believers than they fight each other.
<LOL> Good luck!
Ordog
"Beware of the man whose God is in the skies." Bernard Shaw
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Steve
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| User: "Ordog" |
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16 Sep 2005 07:43:12 PM |
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nevermore wrote:
On 16 Sep 2005 04:57:35 -0700, "Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com>
wrote:
nevermore wrote:
On 15 Sep 2005 19:58:20 -0700, "Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com>
wrote:
Kurt Nicklas wrote:
In article <dg59d7$3lv$1@news.seed.net.tw>, Peacenik says...
<SNIP>
"Hands that help are far better than lips that pray" - Robert J. Ingersoll
"The first requisite for the happiness of the people is the abolition of
religion" - Karl Marx
This this sums it up quite well! After all you do not even need
religion for theism. So stuff the mind control and mass manupulation
bits and we could build a happier society.
One might choose to criticise Marx for some of his ideas but definitely
not for this one!
<LOL> That kind of totalitarian thinking is pretty consistent with
socialism, all right....
So you call theocracy better than socialism!
No, and you should learn to read...
why do you not migrate to
Iran?
Well for one thing, as I made clear above, I wouldn't like living
under a totalitarian government.
Iran is a "democratic" theocracy. Somewhat similar to Texas!
See my comment below about you being too dumber than a moron.
Your attitude just confirms that religion is not about belief in God but
strictly about having power over the society!
<LOL> If you think that not liking the idea of "abolishing religion"
means that, you're too dumb to be classified as a moron.
Abolishing in this case means freeing the society from this burden. I
do not advocate (nor did Marx) that state should prosecute people for
believing in gods of their choices.
Go look up "abolish."
This interpretation of socialism
was manufactured for political reasons during the years of anti
communists hysterics in the USA,
The association of Marxism with forced secularism came directly from
Marx's own words...
Oh yeah! In your rightard nightmeres!
I'm not quite sure what are you on about:
1 leftie bashing
than you are just a mindless creepy pawn of the neocons!
2 you are a religious nut
than you are brainwashed and all further arguments are useless!
3 you are on an ego trip trying to bully someone anonymously
than you should look for an other victim. I could not care less
about you opinion since your main argument is insult.
Since you are not willing to support your arguments rationally I do not
think you have read much of Marx or Lenin. Even if you did, you have
not lived under the communists, so you have no real clue about the
practical implementation of the socialist or communist ideologies.
What ever you are, you deserve the taste of theocracy be it in Iran or
Texas, I do not really care which one! Let's see if that might change
your mind!
Ordog
"Beware of the man whose God is in the skies." Bernard Shaw
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| User: "1896 Dead" |
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16 Sep 2005 09:04:09 PM |
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On 16 Sep 2005 17:43:12 -0700, "Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com>
wrote:
nevermore wrote:
On 16 Sep 2005 04:57:35 -0700, "Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com>
wrote:
nevermore wrote:
On 15 Sep 2005 19:58:20 -0700, "Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com>
wrote:
Kurt Nicklas wrote:
In article <dg59d7$3lv$1@news.seed.net.tw>, Peacenik says...
<SNIP>
"Hands that help are far better than lips that pray" - Robert J. Ingersoll
"The first requisite for the happiness of the people is the abolition of
religion" - Karl Marx
This this sums it up quite well! After all you do not even need
religion for theism. So stuff the mind control and mass manupulation
bits and we could build a happier society.
One might choose to criticise Marx for some of his ideas but definitely
not for this one!
<LOL> That kind of totalitarian thinking is pretty consistent with
socialism, all right....
So you call theocracy better than socialism!
No, and you should learn to read...
why do you not migrate to
Iran?
Well for one thing, as I made clear above, I wouldn't like living
under a totalitarian government.
Iran is a "democratic" theocracy. Somewhat similar to Texas!
See my comment below about you being too dumber than a moron.
Your attitude just confirms that religion is not about belief in God but
strictly about having power over the society!
<LOL> If you think that not liking the idea of "abolishing religion"
means that, you're too dumb to be classified as a moron.
Abolishing in this case means freeing the society from this burden. I
do not advocate (nor did Marx) that state should prosecute people for
believing in gods of their choices.
Go look up "abolish."
This interpretation of socialism
was manufactured for political reasons during the years of anti
communists hysterics in the USA,
The association of Marxism with forced secularism came directly from
Marx's own words...
Oh yeah! In your rightard nightmeres!
I'm not quite sure what are you on about:
1 leftie bashing
than you are just a mindless creepy pawn of the neocons!
2 you are a religious nut
than you are brainwashed and all further arguments are useless!
3 you are on an ego trip trying to bully someone anonymously
than you should look for an other victim. I could not care less
about you opinion since your main argument is insult.
Since you are not willing to support your arguments rationally I do not
think you have read much of Marx or Lenin. Even if you did, you have
not lived under the communists, so you have no real clue about the
practical implementation of the socialist or communist ideologies.
What ever you are, you deserve the taste of theocracy be it in Iran or
Texas, I do not really care which one! Let's see if that might change
your mind!
Ordog
"Beware of the man whose God is in the skies." Bernard Shaw
"nevermore" is a troll. Don't waste time on him. That's the worst
possible thing you can do to him.
"'I’m not meeting with that goddamned *****,' Bush screamed at aides
who suggested he meet with Cindy Sheehan, the war-protesting mother
whose son died in Iraq. 'She can go to hell as far as I’m concerned!'"
--Putsch, a decompensating drunk
"Grover Norquist couldn't drown the government, so he drowned New Orleans instead."
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
Pay your taxes so the rich don't have to.
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| User: "Ordog" |
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16 Sep 2005 09:20:45 PM |
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1896 Dead wrote:
On 16 Sep 2005 17:43:12 -0700, "Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com>
wrote:
"nevermore" is a troll. Don't waste time on him. That's the worst
possible thing you can do to him.
Thanks! Now I know why is he such a hopeless a..hole.
Ordog
"Beware of the man whose God is in the skies." Bernard Shaw
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| User: "nevermore" |
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17 Sep 2005 11:16:27 AM |
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On 16 Sep 2005 19:20:45 -0700, "Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com>
wrote:
1896 Dead wrote:
On 16 Sep 2005 17:43:12 -0700, "Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com>
wrote:
"nevermore" is a troll. Don't waste time on him. That's the worst
possible thing you can do to him.
Thanks! Now I know why is he such a hopeless a..hole.
Irony anyone?
--
Steve
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| User: "nevermore" |
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| Title: Re: #Sorry, Putsch: Katrina is not 9/11 |
17 Sep 2005 11:16:27 AM |
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On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 19:04:09 -0700, 1896 Dead
<zepp1896#2211finestplanet.com@> wrote:
On 16 Sep 2005 17:43:12 -0700, "Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com>
wrote:
nevermore wrote:
On 16 Sep 2005 04:57:35 -0700, "Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com>
wrote:
nevermore wrote:
On 15 Sep 2005 19:58:20 -0700, "Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com>
wrote:
Kurt Nicklas wrote:
In article <dg59d7$3lv$1@news.seed.net.tw>, Peacenik says...
<SNIP>
"Hands that help are far better than lips that pray" - Robert J. Ingersoll
"The first requisite for the happiness of the people is the abolition of
religion" - Karl Marx
This this sums it up quite well! After all you do not even need
religion for theism. So stuff the mind control and mass manupulation
bits and we could build a happier society.
One might choose to criticise Marx for some of his ideas but definitely
not for this one!
<LOL> That kind of totalitarian thinking is pretty consistent with
socialism, all right....
So you call theocracy better than socialism!
No, and you should learn to read...
why do you not migrate to
Iran?
Well for one thing, as I made clear above, I wouldn't like living
under a totalitarian government.
Iran is a "democratic" theocracy. Somewhat similar to Texas!
See my comment below about you being too dumber than a moron.
Your attitude just confirms that religion is not about belief in God but
strictly about having power over the society!
<LOL> If you think that not liking the idea of "abolishing religion"
means that, you're too dumb to be classified as a moron.
Abolishing in this case means freeing the society from this burden. I
do not advocate (nor did Marx) that state should prosecute people for
believing in gods of their choices.
Go look up "abolish."
This interpretation of socialism
was manufactured for political reasons during the years of anti
communists hysterics in the USA,
The association of Marxism with forced secularism came directly from
Marx's own words...
Oh yeah! In your rightard nightmeres!
I'm not quite sure what are you on about:
1 leftie bashing
than you are just a mindless creepy pawn of the neocons!
2 you are a religious nut
than you are brainwashed and all further arguments are useless!
3 you are on an ego trip trying to bully someone anonymously
than you should look for an other victim. I could not care less
about you opinion since your main argument is insult.
Since you are not willing to support your arguments rationally I do not
think you have read much of Marx or Lenin. Even if you did, you have
not lived under the communists, so you have no real clue about the
practical implementation of the socialist or communist ideologies.
What ever you are, you deserve the taste of theocracy be it in Iran or
Texas, I do not really care which one! Let's see if that might change
your mind!
Ordog
"Beware of the man whose God is in the skies." Bernard Shaw
"nevermore" is a troll. Don't waste time on him. That's the worst
possible thing you can do to him.
Greywolf is projecting here..... I suspect it's because of his being
a social outcast all of his life....
--
"I was about to start 4th grade when we moved there; my sister was about
to start second grade. We were outcaste almost from the start, and at
this late date, I cannot say honestly whether they cast us out, or
whether we pushed them away. All I remember, now, was the endless
battles; the daily commando run aboard the bus, twice a day -- ever
board a bus with fifty or sixty other kids, damn near every one of
whom is delighted to taunt and harass you?"
--Zepp Greywolf Jamieson Apr 18 1997
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.horror.werewolves/msg/fd611182bd8b9b45?hl=en&
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| User: "nevermore" |
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16 Sep 2005 08:31:17 PM |
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On 16 Sep 2005 17:43:12 -0700, "Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com>
wrote:
nevermore wrote:
On 16 Sep 2005 04:57:35 -0700, "Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com>
wrote:
nevermore wrote:
On 15 Sep 2005 19:58:20 -0700, "Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com>
wrote:
Kurt Nicklas wrote:
In article <dg59d7$3lv$1@news.seed.net.tw>, Peacenik says...
<SNIP>
"Hands that help are far better than lips that pray" - Robert J. Ingersoll
"The first requisite for the happiness of the people is the abolition of
religion" - Karl Marx
This this sums it up quite well! After all you do not even need
religion for theism. So stuff the mind control and mass manupulation
bits and we could build a happier society.
One might choose to criticise Marx for some of his ideas but definitely
not for this one!
<LOL> That kind of totalitarian thinking is pretty consistent with
socialism, all right....
So you call theocracy better than socialism!
No, and you should learn to read...
why do you not migrate to
Iran?
Well for one thing, as I made clear above, I wouldn't like living
under a totalitarian government.
Iran is a "democratic" theocracy. Somewhat similar to Texas!
See my comment below about you being too dumber than a moron.
Your attitude just confirms that religion is not about belief in God but
strictly about having power over the society!
<LOL> If you think that not liking the idea of "abolishing religion"
means that, you're too dumb to be classified as a moron.
Abolishing in this case means freeing the society from this burden. I
do not advocate (nor did Marx) that state should prosecute people for
believing in gods of their choices.
Go look up "abolish."
This interpretation of socialism
was manufactured for political reasons during the years of anti
communists hysterics in the USA,
The association of Marxism with forced secularism came directly from
Marx's own words...
Oh yeah! In your rightard nightmeres!
So you couldn't find out what "abolish" means? Go get someone to help
you.
I'm not quite sure what are you on about:
Don't worry about it.
1 leftie bashing
than you are just a mindless creepy pawn of the neocons!
2 you are a religious nut
than you are brainwashed and all further arguments are useless!
3 you are on an ego trip trying to bully someone anonymously
than you should look for an other victim. I could not care less
about you opinion since your main argument is insult.
Since you are not willing to support your arguments rationally I do not
think you have read much of Marx or Lenin. Even if you did, you have
not lived under the communists, so you have no real clue about the
practical implementation of the socialist or communist ideologies.
What ever you are, you deserve the taste of theocracy be it in Iran or
Texas, I do not really care which one! Let's see if that might change
your mind!
<LOL> Sorry, but morons like you don't ever get to decide what I
deserve.
Ordog
"Beware of the man whose God is in the skies." Bernard Shaw
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Steve
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| Title: Re: #Sorry, Putsch: Katrina is not 9/11 |
16 Sep 2005 09:23:06 PM |
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nevermore wrote:
On 16 Sep 2005 17:43:12 -0700, "Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com>
wrote:
nevermore wrote:
On 16 Sep 2005 04:57:35 -0700, "Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com>
wrote:
nevermore wrote:
On 15 Sep 2005 19:58:20 -0700, "Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com>
wrote:
Kurt Nicklas wrote:
In article <dg59d7$3lv$1@news.seed.net.tw>, Peacenik says...
<SNIP>
"Hands that help are far better than lips that pray" - Robert J. Ingersoll
"The first requisite for the happiness of the people is the abolition of
religion" - Karl Marx
This this sums it up quite well! After all you do not even need
religion for theism. So stuff the mind control and mass manupulation
bits and we could build a happier society.
One might choose to criticise Marx for some of his ideas but definitely
not for this one!
<LOL> That kind of totalitarian thinking is pretty consistent with
socialism, all right....
So you call theocracy better than socialism!
No, and you should learn to read...
why do you not migrate to
Iran?
Well for one thing, as I made clear above, I wouldn't like living
under a totalitarian government.
Iran is a "democratic" theocracy. Somewhat similar to Texas!
See my comment below about you being too dumber than a moron.
Your attitude just confirms that religion is not about belief in God but
strictly about having power over the society!
<LOL> If you think that not liking the idea of "abolishing religion"
means that, you're too dumb to be classified as a moron.
Abolishing in this case means freeing the society from this burden. I
do not advocate (nor did Marx) that state should prosecute people for
believing in gods of their choices.
Go look up "abolish."
This interpretation of socialism
was manufactured for political reasons during the years of anti
communists hysterics in the USA,
The association of Marxism with forced secularism came directly from
Marx's own words...
Oh yeah! In your rightard nightmeres!
So you couldn't find out what "abolish" means? Go get someone to help
you.
I'm not quite sure what are you on about:
Don't worry about it.
1 leftie bashing
than you are just a mindless creepy pawn of the neocons!
2 you are a religious nut
than you are brainwashed and all further arguments are useless!
3 you are on an ego trip trying to bully someone anonymously
than you should look for an other victim. I could not care less
about you opinion since your main argument is insult.
Since you are not willing to support your arguments rationally I do not
think you have read much of Marx or Lenin. Even if you did, you have
not lived under the communists, so you have no real clue about the
practical implementation of the socialist or communist ideologies.
What ever you are, you deserve the taste of theocracy be it in Iran or
Texas, I do not really care which one! Let's see if that might change
your mind!
<LOL> Sorry, but morons like you don't ever get to decide what I
deserve.
Hi, Troll! <PLONK> Bye Troll!
Ordog
"Beware of the man whose God is in the skies." Bernard Shaw
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17 Sep 2005 11:16:26 AM |
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On 16 Sep 2005 19:23:06 -0700, "Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com>
wrote:
nevermore wrote:
On 16 Sep 2005 17:43:12 -0700, "Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com>
wrote:
nevermore wrote:
On 16 Sep 2005 04:57:35 -0700, "Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com>
wrote:
nevermore wrote:
On 15 Sep 2005 19:58:20 -0700, "Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com>
wrote:
Kurt Nicklas wrote:
In article <dg59d7$3lv$1@news.seed.net.tw>, Peacenik says...
<SNIP>
"Hands that help are far better than lips that pray" - Robert J. Ingersoll
"The first requisite for the happiness of the people is the abolition of
religion" - Karl Marx
This this sums it up quite well! After all you do not even need
religion for theism. So stuff the mind control and mass manupulation
bits and we could build a happier society.
One might choose to criticise Marx for some of his ideas but definitely
not for this one!
<LOL> That kind of totalitarian thinking is pretty consistent with
socialism, all right....
So you call theocracy better than socialism!
No, and you should learn to read...
why do you not migrate to
Iran?
Well for one thing, as I made clear above, I wouldn't like living
under a totalitarian government.
Iran is a "democratic" theocracy. Somewhat similar to Texas!
See my comment below about you being too dumber than a moron.
Your attitude just confirms that religion is not about belief in God but
strictly about having power over the society!
<LOL> If you think that not liking the idea of "abolishing religion"
means that, you're too dumb to be classified as a moron.
Abolishing in this case means freeing the society from this burden. I
do not advocate (nor did Marx) that state should prosecute people for
believing in gods of their choices.
Go look up "abolish."
This interpretation of socialism
was manufactured for political reasons during the years of anti
communists hysterics in the USA,
The association of Marxism with forced secularism came directly from
Marx's own words...
Oh yeah! In your rightard nightmeres!
So you couldn't find out what "abolish" means? Go get someone to help
you.
I'm not quite sure what are you on about:
Don't worry about it.
1 leftie bashing
than you are just a mindless creepy pawn of the neocons!
2 you are a religious nut
than you are brainwashed and all further arguments are useless!
3 you are on an ego trip trying to bully someone anonymously
than you should look for an other victim. I could not care less
about you opinion since your main argument is insult.
Since you are not willing to support your arguments rationally I do not
think you have read much of Marx or Lenin. Even if you did, you have
not lived under the communists, so you have no real clue about the
practical implementation of the socialist or communist ideologies.
What ever you are, you deserve the taste of theocracy be it in Iran or
Texas, I do not really care which one! Let's see if that might change
your mind!
<LOL> Sorry, but morons like you don't ever get to decide what I
deserve.
Hi, Troll! <PLONK> Bye Troll!
<LOL> Toodles, queer.
Ordog
"Beware of the man whose God is in the skies." Bernard Shaw
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Steve
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| Title: Re: #Sorry, Putsch: Katrina is not 9/11 |
18 Sep 2005 05:05:36 AM |
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On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 12:16:26 -0400, nevermore
<stevencanyon@y***hoo.com> wrote:
On 16 Sep 2005 19:23:06 -0700, "Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com>
wrote:
nevermore wrote:
On 16 Sep 2005 17:43:12 -0700, "Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com>
wrote:
nevermore wrote:
On 16 Sep 2005 04:57:35 -0700, "Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com>
wrote:
nevermore wrote:
On 15 Sep 2005 19:58:20 -0700, "Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com>
wrote:
Kurt Nicklas wrote:
In article <dg59d7$3lv$1@news.seed.net.tw>, Peacenik says...
<SNIP>
"Hands that help are far better than lips that pray" - Robert J. Ingersoll
"The first requisite for the happiness of the people is the abolition of
religion" - Karl Marx
This this sums it up quite well! After all you do not even need
religion for theism. So stuff the mind control and mass manupulation
bits and we could build a happier society.
One might choose to criticise Marx for some of his ideas but definitely
not for this one!
<LOL> That kind of totalitarian thinking is pretty consistent with
socialism, all right....
So you call theocracy better than socialism!
No, and you should learn to read...
why do you not migrate to
Iran?
Well for one thing, as I made clear above, I wouldn't like living
under a totalitarian government.
Iran is a "democratic" theocracy. Somewhat similar to Texas!
See my comment below about you being too dumber than a moron.
Your attitude just confirms that religion is not about belief in God but
strictly about having power over the society!
<LOL> If you think that not liking the idea of "abolishing religion"
means that, you're too dumb to be classified as a moron.
Abolishing in this case means freeing the society from this burden. I
do not advocate (nor did Marx) that state should prosecute people for
believing in gods of their choices.
Go look up "abolish."
This interpretation of socialism
was manufactured for political reasons during the years of anti
communists hysterics in the USA,
The association of Marxism with forced secularism came directly from
Marx's own words...
Oh yeah! In your rightard nightmeres!
So you couldn't find out what "abolish" means? Go get someone to help
you.
I'm not quite sure what are you on about:
Don't worry about it.
1 leftie bashing
than you are just a mindless creepy pawn of the neocons!
2 you are a religious nut
than you are brainwashed and all further arguments are useless!
3 you are on an ego trip trying to bully someone anonymously
than you should look for an other victim. I could not care less
about you opinion since your main argument is insult.
Since you are not willing to support your arguments rationally I do not
think you have read much of Marx or Lenin. Even if you did, you have
not lived under the communists, so you have no real clue about the
practical implementation of the socialist or communist ideologies.
What ever you are, you deserve the taste of theocracy be it in Iran or
Texas, I do not really care which one! Let's see if that might change
your mind!
<LOL> Sorry, but morons like you don't ever get to decide what I
deserve.
Hi, Troll! <PLONK> Bye Troll!
<LOL> Toodles, queer.
Can you say "projection", ladies and gentlemen? <G>
Ordog
"Beware of the man whose God is in the skies." Bernard Shaw
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: #Sorry, Putsch: Katrina is not 9/11 |
16 Sep 2005 07:45:25 PM |
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Ordog wrote:
Kurt Nicklas wrote:
In article <dg59d7$3lv$1@news.seed.net.tw>, Peacenik says...
<SNIP>
"Hands that help are far better than lips that pray" - Robert J. Ingersoll
"The first requisite for the happiness of the people is the abolition of
religion" - Karl Marx
This this sums it up quite well! After all you do not even need
religion for theism. So stuff the mind control and mass manupulation
bits and we could build a happier society.
One might choose to criticise Marx for some of his ideas but definitely
not for this one!
Great, so let's start off with the Muslims since they're the ones doing
all the damage!
Ordog
"Beware of the man whose God is in the skies." Bernard Shaw
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| User: "Ordog" |
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| Title: Re: #Sorry, Putsch: Katrina is not 9/11 |
16 Sep 2005 08:27:54 PM |
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wrote:
Ordog wrote:
Kurt Nicklas wrote:
In article <dg59d7$3lv$1@news.seed.net.tw>, Peacenik says...
<SNIP>
"Hands that help are far better than lips that pray" - Robert J. Ingersoll
"The first requisite for the happiness of the people is the abolition of
religion" - Karl Marx
This this sums it up quite well! After all you do not even need
religion for theism. So stuff the mind control and mass manupulation
bits and we could build a happier society.
One might choose to criticise Marx for some of his ideas but definitely
not for this one!
Great, so let's start off with the Muslims since they're the ones doing
all the damage!
Says who? A xtian?
Mate, understand this: as far as the whole of society is concerned the
differences among the different relions are minimal. Which is the most
annoying one at a given point is time is just a detail question. The
annoyance factor is very dynamic and shifts randomly among the
different flavours of religions.
The best religion is no religion at all.
Ordog
"Beware of the man whose God is in the skies." Bernard Shaw
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