Religions > Atheism > Re: Subject: Where is the URL for the article? 1975 for JWs
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05 Sep 2003 10:59:40 AM |
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Re: Subject: Where is the URL for the article? 1975 for JWs |
JW-SUSPECT "Nori Otaku" <nori_otaku@yahoo.spam> wrote...
[JW PIMP] BearMan wrote on Thu, 04 Sep 2003 21:42:53 +0000:
NoriOtaku:
If you postulate a position, you should be prepared to support it with
evidence. If your opponents believe you have insufficent evidence, as
we do, then *you* have the burden to provide more.
Actually that is not always true. Especially in this forum.
You ask a question, I answer it.
You don't like my answer, then either tell me what you disagree with or
present proofs to dispute my answer. Otherwise if you just ask the same
question, I'll give yout the same answer.
Example:
(simulated conversation on)
Nori> What color is the sky?
Bear> Blue.
Nori> No it's not. What color is the sky?
Bear> Blue
Nori> No it's not. What color is the sky?
Bear> Blue
Nori> No it's not. What color is the sky?
Bear> Blue
etc.
(simulated conversation off)
No. More like:
Nori> What color is the sky?
Bear> Blue.
Nori> I don't believe you, please provide proof!
Bear> It's blue because everyone knows it's blue.
Nori> That's insufficient proof. How do I know the sky is not "clear"?
Bear> Because, it's blue.
etc.
In reality, the sky has no color, but it *appears* blue because of
reflected light. But since you look up and see blue, you wouldn't be open
to further discussion.
No, Nori Otaku, you too are wrong (of course the jW-PIMP Bearman is wrong
too).
The sky appears blue because the intensity of sideways-SCATTERED light is
inversely proportional to the fourth power of its wavelength. Scattering
ain't reflecting. Hence the violet end (high frequency end of the visible
spectrum) is favored, and the weighted average is blue (near violet).
Go to sci.physics and check, if you wish. And copy it to sci.math, where I
am known as the topologist who, long ago, corrected the famed late Perrti
Lounesto (the Great Falsifier).
And - to save time - the Watchtower never absolutely explicitly said that
1975 would mark the end of this wicked system of things, without putting
some carefully-worded escape clause in a neighboring paragraph or nearby
sentence. But the number of times - and the vehemence - with which it
screamed "1975" is what counts.
I have never suggested otherwise. It makes the WT's crime more, not less.
It shows cunning and ruthlessness. The whole 1975 fiasco was a giant
membership drive dreamt up and masterminded by F.W.Franz. "Why Are You
Looking Forward To 1975?" indeed. Sure, they lost plenty in 1976, but far
fewer than they gained over 1969-1975.
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() The Watchtower and the Jehovah's Witnesses Cult ()
() is a CUNNING CONTRIVANCE, a FRAUD, a DIRTY LIE, ()
() a WOLFISH TRICK, a SCAM, a CRUEL HOAX, a WICKED ()
() CHEAT, the embodiment of SPIRITUAL PORNOGRAPHY, ()
() a PARADISE for FILTHY PEDOPHILES, a BLASPHEMOUS ()
() INSULT, an ABOMINATION, a DISGUSTING THING, the ()
() GREAT HARLOT OF BABYLON, an ANTICHRIST, a FALSE ()
() PROPHET, a HIGHLY DECEITFUL WITNESS, a SCANDAL, ()
() a DAMNED SATANIC OUTRAGE from start to finish.. ()
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And on the third day, God said:
"Let there be div(D)=Pf, div(B)=0, curl(E)=-dB/dt, curl(H)=jf+dD/dt."
And there was light."
Love
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Examples of FINE SPIRITUAL FOOD AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME FROM "THE SLAVE":
"We need not here repeat the evidences that the 'seventh trump' began its
sounding in A.D. 1840, and will continue until the end of the time of
trouble" {WT Nov 1880 p1}; "masturbation is no mere innocent pastime but
rather a practice that can lead to homosexual acts" {WT May 15 1970 p315;
also WT Oct 1 1970 p604}; "If heaven were made the receptacle of the
heathen, savages, barbarians, the idiotic, simple, insane and INFANTS, it
would cease to be heaven to a considerable extent, and become a pandemonium
.. billions of ignorant, imbecile and degraded .. never formed characters
[not] fit companions for saints" {WT Oct 15 1896 p245} Fine JW Wisdom!!
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THE LIST OF AMAZING JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES' CLAIMS, BELIEFS & PREDICTIONS
Prepared by MYSELF may be found at the following websites:-
http://www.freeminds.org/history/part1.htm
http://www1.tip.nl/~t661020/wtcitaten/part1.htm
http://localsonly.wilmington.net/jmalik/TheList.zip
http://www.concordance.com/watchtower.htm
It is FULLY IN ACCORDANCE with the teachings of the WATCHTOWER Bible &
Tract Society (WTBTS) for every member of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES to Carefully
Study the LIST mentioned above, which comprises truly fine scriptural food
from its own publications. Remember the WTBTS told you to confirm whether
what was taught by the WTBTS was in harmony with the Bible - and if not,
not to circulate it {WT Mar 1 1894 repr p1629}, to confirm WT teachings
against the Bible {WT May 1 1934 p131}, to invite critical examination of
your faith {WT Aug 15 1950 p263}, that, far from being wrong, it is your
duty to examine religion to see if it is true or false {WT Nov 15 1963
p688}, that you should actively examine your own religion {The Truth That
Leads To Eternal Life 1968 p13, a WTBTS publication}, that you should check
and examine BOTH sides of a matter {Awake! Oct 22 1973 p6}, that your
religion was in no way afraid of being exposed to scrutiny {WT Aug 1 1978
p12}, that you should to be willing to submit everything to scrutiny
{Awake! Aug 22 1984 p22/28}, that you should not have a closed mind {WT Nov
22 1984 p3-4}, that you should actively refer to the older publications {WT
Jun 15 1985 p12}, that all people are encouraged to examine other religions
and with an open mind {WT Apr 1 1991 p17} and that you are encouraged to
exhibit freedom of thought {Awake! Jun 8 1994 p21}. So, please follow this
advice of the WTBTS, and study that LIST very carefully. "You will know the
Truth and the Truth will set you free."(John 8:32). Fine advice indeed!
THE LIST IS PRODUCED IN DIRECT RESPONSE TO A RECENT REQUEST BY THE WTBTS in
{WT Dec 1 1990 p19}, where it quotes {WT Dec 15 1914 p377-8}: "If any one
knows anything better, let him take it. If any of you ever find anything
better, we hope you will tell us." Kindly, Prominent Bethelite has duly
obliged. Having read it, if you find the WTBTS has ever told falsehoods,
follow the WTBTS advice clearly given in {WT Dec 1 1991 p7} "A religion
that teaches lies cannot be true."; if you find the WTBTS has even made one
false prophecy, follow the WTBTS advice clearly given in {WT Feb 1 1992 p3}
"Beware of False Prophets!" - and cut yourself off from these Foul Cheats.
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| Title: Re: Subject: Where is the URL for the article? 1975 for JWs |
05 Sep 2003 03:49:04 PM |
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Prominent Bethelite wrote on Fri, 05 Sep 2003 17:59:40 +0200:
JW-SUSPECT "Nori Otaku" <nori_otaku@yahoo.spam> wrote...
[JW PIMP] BearMan wrote on Thu, 04 Sep 2003 21:42:53 +0000:
NoriOtaku:
If you postulate a position, you should be prepared to support it with
evidence. If your opponents believe you have insufficent evidence, as
we do, then *you* have the burden to provide more.
Actually that is not always true. Especially in this forum. You ask a
question, I answer it.
You don't like my answer, then either tell me what you disagree with or
present proofs to dispute my answer. Otherwise if you just ask the same
question, I'll give yout the same answer.
Example:
(simulated conversation on)
Nori> What color is the sky?
Bear> Blue.
Nori> No it's not. What color is the sky? Bear> Blue
Nori> No it's not. What color is the sky? Bear> Blue
Nori> No it's not. What color is the sky? Bear> Blue
etc.
(simulated conversation off)
No. More like:
Nori> What color is the sky?
Bear> Blue.
Nori> I don't believe you, please provide proof! Bear> It's blue because
everyone knows it's blue. Nori> That's insufficient proof. How do I know
the sky is not "clear"? Bear> Because, it's blue.
etc.
In reality, the sky has no color, but it *appears* blue because of
reflected light. But since you look up and see blue, you wouldn't be
open to further discussion.
No, Nori Otaku, you too are wrong (of course the jW-PIMP Bearman is wrong
too).
The sky appears blue because the intensity of sideways-SCATTERED light is
inversely proportional to the fourth power of its wavelength. Scattering
ain't reflecting. Hence the violet end (high frequency end of the visible
spectrum) is favored, and the weighted average is blue (near violet).
Pedant. :P
Go to sci.physics and check, if you wish. And copy it to sci.math, where I
am known as the topologist who, long ago, corrected the famed late Perrti
Lounesto (the Great Falsifier).
You are right about the sky being blue, of course -- I was being
simplistic, and you are being pedantic. Not that I mind..
And - to save time - the Watchtower never absolutely explicitly said that
1975 would mark the end of this wicked system of things, without putting
some carefully-worded escape clause in a neighboring paragraph or nearby
sentence. But the number of times - and the vehemence - with which it
screamed "1975" is what counts.
EXACTLY my point.
--
NoriOtaku :: Change 'spam' to 'com' to send mail
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