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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Kurt Gavin"
Date: 29 Jul 2006 12:35:39 PM
Object: Re: The amazing usage of Jesus.
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1154133483.065790.281620@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

Kurt Gavin wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam8@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1154129399.563824.123410@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

TigerLily wrote:

http://www.netcabal.com/auk/kookle.php?search=chung

they have a search engine, and anytime you want you can see chung's
qualifications


Actually, this is a tremendous blessing...

"Remember when they hate you, that they hated ME first." -- LORD Jesus
Christ

Yes, I know dear LORD... the closer I walk with you, the more they
hate me... they are in alot of trouble aren't they?


Yes, at bottom, it's all about YOU isn't it Andrew?


No.

There are many who have chosen to walk with Christ Jesus. It's all
about HIM.

Most of them keep their mythic supernaturalist fantasies out places it's not
wanted.
.

User: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

Title: The power of the Holy Spirit. 29 Jul 2006 12:43:43 PM
Kurt Gavin wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1154133483.065790.281620@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

Kurt Gavin wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam8@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1154129399.563824.123410@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

TigerLily wrote:

http://www.netcabal.com/auk/kookle.php?search=chung

they have a search engine, and anytime you want you can see chung's
qualifications


Actually, this is a tremendous blessing...

"Remember when they hate you, that they hated ME first." -- LORD Jesus
Christ

Yes, I know dear LORD... the closer I walk with you, the more they
hate me... they are in alot of trouble aren't they?


Yes, at bottom, it's all about YOU isn't it Andrew?


No.

There are many who have chosen to walk with Christ Jesus. It's all
about HIM.


Most of them keep their mythic supernaturalist fantasies out places it's not
wanted.

LORD Jesus Christ is not a myth.
The only fantasy here is yours that HE does not exist.
Indeed, you have witnessed things that are inexplicable without
knowledge of HIM.
Still praying for you, dear neighbor Kurt.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
Message for the wolves in sheepskin:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4f43855be1cfa795?
or
http://tinyurl.com/povfe (awaiting the continued frantic foot-stomping
antics of the anti-christ)
Message for my brethren:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/7bff7f0b57577900?
or
http://tinyurl.com/ng62u (expecting the anti-christ to eventually have
a coronary here)
Message for the anti-christ, who serves satan:
LORD GOD Almighty is the Source of all intelligence, which clearly HE
has dialed down in your case since you seem unable to realize that HE
has given me the stamina to outlast you.
.
User: "Kurt Gavin"

Title: Re: The power of bogus myths 29 Jul 2006 04:40:28 PM
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam9@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message


Most of them keep their mythic supernaturalist fantasies out places it's
not
wanted.


LORD Jesus Christ is not a myth.

Yes he is dummy. from http://home.inu.net/skeptic/exist.html
DID JESUS EVER LIVE?1
Was Jesus of Nazareth a real historical person? Today, we cannot give a
positive yes or no answer to this question. But after studying the evidence
it becomes highly plausible that, as portrayed in the New Testament gospels,
Jesus of Nazareth, hereinafter referred to as Jesus, is a myth and nothing
more. It is reasonable to speculate, however, that somewhere in the eastern
Mediterranean region of two thousand or more years ago a talented young
leader appeared preaching what was for those days a radical doctrine.
Although he in no way resembled the Jesus of the New Testament, he well
might have provided the inspiration for him, i.e., the kernel of truth out
of which grew the myth.
First, it is inconceivable that if a historical Jesus had actually founded a
world religion, Christianity, that there should be no contemporary record of
his activities. Surely one of the several important Jewish historians active
during that period would have at the very least mentioned him. But they
remained silent about him - a silence, it should be noted, which speaks
volumes. So in our search for Jesus we are restricted to the conflicting
depictions of the New Testament gospel writers who are themselves under
suspicion by modern Bible scholars2. Surely if such a person as Jesus had in
fact existed, the historians of his day would have recorded something of
his teachings, his alleged miracles, his doctrines as well as the many other
extraordinary events associated with his short life as recorded in the
gospels.
Preeminent among the Jewish historians of the first century is Philo Judaeus
of Alexandria. His dates, 30 BCE - 453, include Jesus' alleged life span.
Among his writings is a history of the Jewish people. It is still available
today. Philo was particularly interested in contemporary religious movements
and sects of which there were many. Yet he never once mentions Jesus or any
of the extraordinary events associated with him in the New Testament.
Justus of Tiberius, another contemporary Jewish historian, also wrote a
history of the Jewish people covering this period. Although the work is now
lost, we know that it was extant at least until 891 because Photius, the
Patriarch of Constantinople, read it and expressed astonishment that it
contained not one reference to Jesus (Photius' Bibliotheca, code 33)4 .
Flauvius Josephus (37-100?), an important first century Jewish historian,
wrote about Pontius Pilate in his important work, Antiquities of the Jews5.
It is unimaginable that he should not have mentioned the trial and
crucifixion of Jesus had they really occurred. It is evident that at an
early date Christians were painfully aware of this fatal omission and took
steps to correct it. Between sections two and four of chapter 3 of
Antiquities there appears a short section, appropriately titled section 3,
in which Jesus and the Christians are indeed mentioned. However, section 3
interrupts the natural flow of the text and appears to be out of place. When
section 3 is removed chapter 3 makes more sense. Section 3 is an
acknowledged interpolation6. Also, early Christian writers, such as Origen
and Tertullian, frequently referred to Josephus without once citing this
passage. They certainly would have done so had they been aware of it. Last,
but by no means least, the passage was obviously written by a Christian
which Josephus was not. It is interesting to note that in the sixteenth
century Vossius7 had a ancient manuscript of Josephus which does not contain
the passage in question.

The only fantasy here is yours that HE does not exist.

Your denial reminds me of an alcoholic when confronted with his addiction.

Indeed, you have witnessed things that are inexplicable without
knowledge of HIM.

No, not really.

Still praying for you, dear neighbor Kurt.

It's not working - my health is fine.
.
User: "Homer J Simpson"

Title: Re: The power of bogus myths 29 Jul 2006 04:50:12 PM
"Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com> wrote in message
news:gBQyg.1737$0e5.53@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...

Was Jesus of Nazareth a real historical person?

No. There was no Nazareth (or the Romans would have taxed it).
He was a Nazarene, not from Nazareth. If there were two cities in the USA,
one called Democratus and the other Republica, not all democrats and
republicans would be from one of those cities.
.

User: ""

Title: Re: The power of bogus myths 04 Aug 2006 05:04:06 PM
Kurt Gavin wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam9@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message

LORD Jesus Christ is not a myth.


Yes he is dummy. from http://home.inu.net/skeptic/exist.html

The credulity of atheists...

Justus of Tiberius, another contemporary Jewish historian, also wrote a
history of the Jewish people covering this period. Although the work is now
lost, we know that it was extant at least until 891 because Photius, the
Patriarch of Constantinople, read it and expressed astonishment that it
contained not one reference to Jesus (Photius' Bibliotheca, code 33)4 .

Very second hand. Photius, actually, does not express the slightest
astonishment! He says that the book is very brief, being Jewish
doesn't mention Christ, and is mostly fictitious. Isn't it interesting
that the author of this -- whom you credulously repeat -- didn't look
him up and see?

acknowledged interpolation6. Also, early Christian writers, such as Origen
and Tertullian, frequently referred to Josephus without once citing this
passage.

Tertullian refers to Josephus once -- and he NEVER refers to
Antiquities. Origen refers to Josephus FOUR times only; and in one of
them quotes the other passage about Christ.
Once again we see that the author -- whom you credulously repeat --
didn't check his facts.

which Josephus was not. It is interesting to note that in the sixteenth
century Vossius7 had a ancient manuscript of Josephus which does not contain
the passage in question.

No, Voss says no such thing. Once again the author -- whom you
unthinkingly repeat -- hasn't checked his facts.

The only fantasy here is yours that HE does not exist.


Your denial reminds me of an alcoholic when confronted with his addiction.

How unfortunate, given your inability to think for yourself.
Convenience -- your religion -- is a rotten religion.

Still praying for you, dear neighbor Kurt.


It's not working - my health is fine.

Brain damage clearly visible...
All the best,
Roger Pearse
.


User: "Free Lunch"

Title: Re: The power of the Holy Spirit. 29 Jul 2006 01:15:51 PM
On 29 Jul 2006 10:43:43 -0700, in alt.atheism
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam9@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
<1154195023.261890.230820@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>:

Kurt Gavin wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1154133483.065790.281620@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

Kurt Gavin wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam8@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1154129399.563824.123410@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

TigerLily wrote:

http://www.netcabal.com/auk/kookle.php?search=chung

they have a search engine, and anytime you want you can see chung's
qualifications


Actually, this is a tremendous blessing...

"Remember when they hate you, that they hated ME first." -- LORD Jesus
Christ

Yes, I know dear LORD... the closer I walk with you, the more they
hate me... they are in alot of trouble aren't they?


Yes, at bottom, it's all about YOU isn't it Andrew?


No.

There are many who have chosen to walk with Christ Jesus. It's all
about HIM.


Most of them keep their mythic supernaturalist fantasies out places it's not
wanted.


LORD Jesus Christ is not a myth.

The only fantasy here is yours that HE does not exist.

Indeed, you have witnessed things that are inexplicable without
knowledge of HIM.

Please name some of these things. Explain why you assert that they are
inexplicable.
....
.
User: "David Rind"

Title: Bipolar disorder 29 Jul 2006 02:26:35 PM
A lot of what is being posted and crossposted is, of course, in
sci.med.cardiology, but many of those reading and writing do not have a
medical background.
I wonder if those doing so much of the poking and prodding might try
learning about bipolar disorder/delusional mania (there are many sites
you can find with Google), and think what it says about them to
viciously and repeatedly attack someone who is ill. You can't justify
attacking someone who is sick just because "he started it".
--
David Rind
drind@caregroup.harvard.edu
.
User: "Ma¢k"

Title: Re: Bipolar disorder 31 Jul 2006 03:02:00 PM
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 15:26:35 -0400, David Rind
<drind@caregroup.harvard.edu> Huffed and Puffed the following into the
madness of usenet:

A lot of what is being posted and crossposted is, of course, in
sci.med.cardiology, but many of those reading and writing do not have a
medical background.

I wonder if those doing so much of the poking and prodding might try
learning about bipolar disorder/delusional mania (there are many sites
you can find with Google), and think what it says about them to
viciously and repeatedly attack someone who is ill. You can't justify
attacking someone who is sick just because "he started it".

so someone from Harvard is saying that chung is bipolar
.

User: "Sanitys little helper"

Title: Re: Bipolar disorder 29 Jul 2006 03:51:47 PM
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 15:26:35 -0400, David Rind dropped their drawers in
alt.atheism,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.christnet.evangelical,alt.support.diabetes,sci.med.cardiology
and wrote:

A lot of what is being posted and crossposted is, of course, in
sci.med.cardiology, but many of those reading and writing do not have a
medical background.

I wonder if those doing so much of the poking and prodding might try
learning about bipolar disorder/delusional mania (there are many sites
you can find with Google), and think what it says about them to
viciously and repeatedly attack someone who is ill. You can't justify
attacking someone who is sick just because "he started it".

OK, so how do we help Andrew to accept that he is ill?
.
User: "Kurt Gavin"

Title: Re: Bipolar disorder 29 Jul 2006 05:03:15 PM
"Sanity's little helper" <elvish@noshpam.net> wrote in message
news:1qgfyl51fuo5o.4purg9pm8cy2.dlg@40tude.net...

On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 15:26:35 -0400, David Rind dropped their drawers in
alt.atheism,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.christnet.evangelical,alt.support.diabetes,sci.med.cardiology
and wrote:

A lot of what is being posted and crossposted is, of course, in
sci.med.cardiology, but many of those reading and writing do not have a
medical background.

I wonder if those doing so much of the poking and prodding might try
learning about bipolar disorder/delusional mania (there are many sites
you can find with Google), and think what it says about them to
viciously and repeatedly attack someone who is ill. You can't justify
attacking someone who is sick just because "he started it".


OK, so how do we help Andrew to accept that he is ill?

Have fun using him for entertainment and mirth. Particularly, aim your
jests at how xian fundamentalism is deterioating his intellectual
faculties - he still has some shreds of pride left in this area.
.

User: "bob young"

Title: Re: Bipolar disorder 29 Jul 2006 09:35:02 PM
Sanity's little helper wrote:

On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 15:26:35 -0400, David Rind dropped their drawers in
alt.atheism,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.christnet.evangelical,alt.support.diabetes,sci.med.cardiology
and wrote:

A lot of what is being posted and crossposted is, of course, in
sci.med.cardiology, but many of those reading and writing do not have a
medical background.

I wonder if those doing so much of the poking and prodding might try
learning about bipolar disorder/delusional mania (there are many sites
you can find with Google), and think what it says about them to
viciously and repeatedly attack someone who is ill. You can't justify
attacking someone who is sick just because "he started it".


OK, so how do we help Andrew to accept that he is ill?

Well tonight when he kneels down to talk to his Lord he could say
"Lord this time please show yourself in front of me or I will immediately convert to Islam"
.

User: "Susan"

Title: Re: Bipolar disorder 29 Jul 2006 03:55:24 PM
x-no-archive: yes
Sanity's little helper wrote:

OK, so how do we help Andrew to accept that he is ill?

You don't.
Susan
.
User: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

Title: Love thy untruthful neighbor. 30 Jul 2006 02:12:05 AM
Susan wrote:

Sanity's little helper wrote:

OK, so how do we help Andrew to accept that he is ill?


You don't.

Because it remains my choice to accept only the truth.
You should try it sometime.
Still praying for you, dear neighbor Susan.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
Message for the wolves in sheepskin:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4f43855be1cfa795?
or
http://tinyurl.com/povfe (awaiting the continued frantic foot-stomping
antics of the anti-christ)
Message for my brethren:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/7bff7f0b57577900?
or
http://tinyurl.com/ng62u (expecting the anti-christ to eventually have
a coronary here)
Message for the anti-christ, who serves satan:
LORD GOD Almighty is the Source of all intelligence, which clearly HE
has dialed down in your case since you seem unable to realize that HE
has given me the stamina to outlast you.
.
User: "Kurt Gavin"

Title: Re: have fun with thy deluded neighbor. 30 Jul 2006 09:20:07 AM
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam2@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1154243525.265031.237390@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

Susan wrote:

Sanity's little helper wrote:

OK, so how do we help Andrew to accept that he is ill?


You don't.


Because it remains my choice to accept only the truth.

Because it remains your choice to accept only xian fundamentalist delusions.
.
User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: AA- Who's Converted by Chung!? Re: have fun with thy deluded neighbor. 31 Jul 2006 01:03:00 PM
"Stephen Knight" <wooly51@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:mhlqc21ciuudu6poekv400cgj5b93ljt37@4ax.com...

On 30 Jul 2006 14:18:22 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote:


The truth is not delusion.


The so called 'truth', IS a delusion when it conforms to
superstitious standards.

I don't see the difference between some half naked guy dancing
around a fire swinging a dead chicken or you on your knees casting
spells in front of a cadaver on a cross.

Now you can say the most useless words in the universe, 'you'll
pray for me'.

How many atheists have you converted so far? It's not as if you
haven't been trying.

HEY! Who's been converted!? Sound off! All you fence sitters out
there, is Chung compelling?

Sorry, but anyone who sprays nail polish remover on their food regularly is
NOT someone to be taken seriously ;)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
.

User: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

Title: Re: Chung the missionary 31 Jul 2006 04:41:50 PM
Kurt Gavin wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam3@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1154329467.061428.42290@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...

Stephen Knight wrote:

On 30 Jul 2006 14:18:22 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote:

The truth is not delusion.


The so called 'truth', IS a delusion when it conforms to
superstitious standards.


Not for the discerning.

The LORD's purpose for me here remains to inform and not convert.


There's no information in your posts.

Not for the discerning.
In truth, you could not have paid me a higher compliment in the subject
line.
Laus Deo !
Marana tha !
Still praying for you, dear neighbor Kurt.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
Messages for the wolves in sheepskin:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4f43855be1cfa795?
or
http://tinyurl.com/povfe (awaiting the continued frantic foot-stomping
antics of the anti-christ)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/46204a10b967b1a1?
or
http://tinyurl.com/mm58k (awaiting the bluster of the anti-christ)
Message for my brethren (there is unity in the Holy Spirit):
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/7bff7f0b57577900?
or
http://tinyurl.com/ng62u (expecting the anti-christ to eventually have
a coronary here)
Message for the agnostics, who are automatically without the Holy
Spirit:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.christianlife/msg/3682d1982b5c0a09?
or
http://tinyurl.com/nvhoe (expecting the anti-christ to suffer a cardiac
arrest here)
Message for the anti-christ, who serves satan:
LORD GOD Almighty is the Source of all intelligence, which clearly HE
has dialed down in your case since you seem unable to realize that HE
has given me the stamina to outlast you.
.
User: "Kurt Gavin"

Title: Re: Chung the missionary 31 Jul 2006 05:02:55 PM
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam2@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1154382110.231923.23420@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

Kurt Gavin wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam3@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1154329467.061428.42290@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...

Stephen Knight wrote:

On 30 Jul 2006 14:18:22 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote:

The truth is not delusion.


The so called 'truth', IS a delusion when it conforms to
superstitious standards.


Not for the discerning.

The LORD's purpose for me here remains to inform and not convert.


There's no information in your posts.


Not for the discerning.

Correct - there's no information in your posts for the discerning.

In truth, you could not have paid me a higher compliment in the subject
line.

Then you are contradicting yourself AGAIN. You say above: "The LORD's
purpose for me here remains to inform and not convert".
A sharp mind, regardless of "beliefs", doesn't make the kind of mistakes
you regularly make. That should tell you something.

Laus Deo !

Marana tha !

Uh huh, sure...

Still praying for you, dear neighbor Kurt.

It's not working, my health is fine.
.
User: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

Title: Re: Chung the missionary 31 Jul 2006 05:31:21 PM
Kurt Gavin wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam2@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1154382110.231923.23420@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

Kurt Gavin wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam3@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1154329467.061428.42290@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...

Stephen Knight wrote:

On 30 Jul 2006 14:18:22 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote:

The truth is not delusion.


The so called 'truth', IS a delusion when it conforms to
superstitious standards.


Not for the discerning.

The LORD's purpose for me here remains to inform and not convert.


There's no information in your posts.


Not for the discerning.


Correct

Glad you agree.
May GOD continue to keep you healthy so you will be able to learn about
HIM in these usenet newsgroups, dear neighbor Kurt, in Jesus' most
precious and holy name.
Amen !
Laus Deo !
Marana tha !
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
Messages for the wolves in sheepskin:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4f43855be1cfa795?
or
http://tinyurl.com/povfe (awaiting the continued frantic foot-stomping
antics of the anti-christ)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/46204a10b967b1a1?
or
http://tinyurl.com/mm58k (awaiting the bluster of the anti-christ)
Message for my brethren (there is unity in the Holy Spirit):
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/7bff7f0b57577900?
or
http://tinyurl.com/ng62u (expecting the anti-christ to eventually have
a coronary here)
Message for the agnostics, who are automatically without the Holy
Spirit:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.christianlife/msg/3682d1982b5c0a09?
or
http://tinyurl.com/nvhoe (expecting the anti-christ to suffer a cardiac
arrest here)
Message for the anti-christ, who serves satan:
LORD GOD Almighty is the Source of all intelligence, which clearly HE
has dialed down in your case since you seem unable to realize that HE
has given me the stamina to outlast you.
.
User: "Kurt Gavin"

Title: Re: Chung the cribbing missionary 31 Jul 2006 06:38:48 PM
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1154385080.957891.119450@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...

Kurt Gavin wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam2@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1154382110.231923.23420@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

Kurt Gavin wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam3@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1154329467.061428.42290@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...

Stephen Knight wrote:

On 30 Jul 2006 14:18:22 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote:

The truth is not delusion.


The so called 'truth', IS a delusion when it conforms to
superstitious standards.


Not for the discerning.

The LORD's purpose for me here remains to inform and not convert.


There's no information in your posts.


Not for the discerning.


Correct


Glad you agree.

You snipped out the part of my reply that you didn't like.
How like a xian fundie!
You have to snip out most of the reality in the world in order to maintain
your xian fantasies.
L O L
.
User: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

Title: Love thy atheist neighbor. 31 Jul 2006 10:06:48 PM
Kurt Gavin wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1154385080.957891.119450@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...

Kurt Gavin wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam2@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1154382110.231923.23420@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

Kurt Gavin wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam3@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1154329467.061428.42290@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...

Stephen Knight wrote:

On 30 Jul 2006 14:18:22 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote:

The truth is not delusion.


The so called 'truth', IS a delusion when it conforms to
superstitious standards.


Not for the discerning.

The LORD's purpose for me here remains to inform and not convert.


There's no information in your posts.


Not for the discerning.


Correct


Glad you agree.


You snipped out the part of my reply that you didn't like.

It remains my choice to cross only the bridges I get to.
Still praying for you, dear neighbor Kurt.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
Messages for the wolves in sheepskin:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4f43855be1cfa795?
or
http://tinyurl.com/povfe (awaiting the continued frantic foot-stomping
antics of the anti-christ)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/46204a10b967b1a1?
or
http://tinyurl.com/mm58k (awaiting the bluster of the anti-christ)
Message for my brethren (there is unity in the Holy Spirit):
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/7bff7f0b57577900?
or
http://tinyurl.com/ng62u (expecting the anti-christ to eventually have
a coronary here)
Message for the agnostics, who are automatically without the Holy
Spirit:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.christianlife/msg/3682d1982b5c0a09?
or
http://tinyurl.com/nvhoe (expecting the anti-christ to suffer a cardiac
arrest here)
Message for the anti-christ, who serves satan:
LORD GOD Almighty is the Source of all intelligence, which clearly HE
has dialed down in your case since you seem unable to realize that HE
has given me the stamina to outlast you.
.
User: "Kurt Gavin"

Title: Re: laff at thy xian fantasist 01 Aug 2006 12:14:36 PM
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1154401608.565185.6200@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...

Kurt Gavin wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1154385080.957891.119450@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...

Kurt Gavin wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam2@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1154382110.231923.23420@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

Kurt Gavin wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam3@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1154329467.061428.42290@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...

Stephen Knight wrote:

On 30 Jul 2006 14:18:22 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote:

The truth is not delusion.


The so called 'truth', IS a delusion when it conforms to
superstitious standards.


Not for the discerning.

The LORD's purpose for me here remains to inform and not convert.


There's no information in your posts.


Not for the discerning.


Correct


Glad you agree.


You snipped out the part of my reply that you didn't like.


It remains my choice to cross only the bridges I get to.

That vacuous reply is symptomatic of your entire vacuous hypocritical
fantasy system.
.
User: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

Title: Re: laff at thy xian fantasist 01 Aug 2006 02:24:31 PM
Kurt Gavin wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1154401608.565185.6200@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...

Kurt Gavin wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1154385080.957891.119450@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...

Kurt Gavin wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam2@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1154382110.231923.23420@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

Kurt Gavin wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam3@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1154329467.061428.42290@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...

Stephen Knight wrote:

On 30 Jul 2006 14:18:22 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote:

The truth is not delusion.


The so called 'truth', IS a delusion when it conforms to
superstitious standards.


Not for the discerning.

The LORD's purpose for me here remains to inform and not convert.


There's no information in your posts.


Not for the discerning.


Correct


Glad you agree.


You snipped out the part of my reply that you didn't like.


It remains my choice to cross only the bridges I get to.


That vacuous reply is symptomatic of your entire vacuous hypocritical
fantasy system.

Actually, replies are not symptoms. On the other hand, your inability
to comprehend what is plainly written and your perserveration are
symptoms of OBS. Would suggest you inform your doctor(s) about your
symptoms.
Still praying for you, dear neighbor Kurt.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
Messages for the wolves in sheepskin:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4f43855be1cfa795?
or
http://tinyurl.com/povfe (awaiting the continued frantic foot-stomping
antics of the anti-christ)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/46204a10b967b1a1?
or
http://tinyurl.com/mm58k (awaiting the bluster of the anti-christ)
Message for my brethren (there is unity in the Holy Spirit):
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/7bff7f0b57577900?
or
http://tinyurl.com/ng62u (expecting the anti-christ to eventually have
a coronary here)
Message for the agnostics, who are automatically without the Holy
Spirit:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.christianlife/msg/3682d1982b5c0a09?
or
http://tinyurl.com/nvhoe (expecting the anti-christ to suffer a cardiac
arrest here)
Message for the anti-christ, who serves satan:
LORD GOD Almighty is the Source of all intelligence, which clearly HE
has dialed down in your case since you seem unable to realize that HE
has given me the stamina to outlast you.
.
User: "Kurt Gavin"

Title: Re: laff at thy xian fantasist 01 Aug 2006 03:06:25 PM
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message


You snipped out the part of my reply that you didn't like.


It remains my choice to cross only the bridges I get to.


That vacuous reply is symptomatic of your entire vacuous hypocritical
fantasy system.


Actually, replies are not symptoms. On the other hand, your inability
to comprehend what is plainly written and your perserveration are
symptoms of OBS. Would suggest you inform your doctor(s) about your
symptoms.

Another indication of your deteriorating mind. Xian fundamentalism is
removing what little intellect you have left.
Replies are very often "symptoms". If an MD presses on your ribs after an
accident and asks if it hurts, your reply will tell him something.
If a psychiatrist asks you if you have delusions of receiving messages from
supernatural beings, your reply will tell him something.
You post a LOT of things on here that indicate a brain going dead.


Still praying for you, dear neighbor Kurt.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

Messages for the wolves in sheepskin:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4f43855be1cfa795?
or
http://tinyurl.com/povfe (awaiting the continued frantic foot-stomping
antics of the anti-christ)

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/46204a10b967b1a1?
or
http://tinyurl.com/mm58k (awaiting the bluster of the anti-christ)

Message for my brethren (there is unity in the Holy Spirit):
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/7bff7f0b57577900?
or
http://tinyurl.com/ng62u (expecting the anti-christ to eventually have
a coronary here)

Message for the agnostics, who are automatically without the Holy
Spirit:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.christianlife/msg/3682d1982b5c0a09?
or
http://tinyurl.com/nvhoe (expecting the anti-christ to suffer a cardiac
arrest here)

Message for the anti-christ, who serves satan:
LORD GOD Almighty is the Source of all intelligence, which clearly HE
has dialed down in your case since you seem unable to realize that HE
has given me the stamina to outlast you.

.
User: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

Title: Kurt Gavin acknowledges that he has OBS. 01 Aug 2006 05:55:19 PM
Kurt Gavin wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message


You snipped out the part of my reply that you didn't like.


It remains my choice to cross only the bridges I get to.


That vacuous reply is symptomatic of your entire vacuous hypocritical
fantasy system.


Actually, replies are not symptoms. On the other hand, your inability
to comprehend what is plainly written and your perserveration are
symptoms of OBS. Would suggest you inform your doctor(s) about your
symptoms.


Another indication of your deteriorating mind.

These symptoms are yours and not mine. Indeed, OBS will lead to
cognitive deterioration.

Xian fundamentalism is removing what little intellect you have left.

It remains my choice to receive guidance from the Holy Spirit rather
than from anything of this world whether you call them doctrines or
"fundamentals."

Replies are very often "symptoms".

Incorrect.

If an MD presses on your ribs after an
accident and asks if it hurts, your reply will tell him something.

However, the replies themselves will not be described as symptoms.
Instead, the symptom will be rib tenderness and not verbalization of
same.

If a psychiatrist asks you if you have delusions of receiving messages from
supernatural beings, your reply will tell him something.

However, the replies themselves will not be described as symptoms.
Instead, the symptom will be auditory hallucinations and not
verbalization of same.

You post a LOT of things on here that indicate a brain going dead.

In one word:
Projection.
Still praying for you, dear neighbor Kurt.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
Messages for the wolves in sheepskin:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4f43855be1cfa795?
or
http://tinyurl.com/povfe (awaiting the continued frantic foot-stomping
antics of the anti-christ)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/46204a10b967b1a1?
or
http://tinyurl.com/mm58k (awaiting the bluster of the anti-christ)
Message for my brethren (there is unity in the Holy Spirit):
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/7bff7f0b57577900?
or
http://tinyurl.com/ng62u (expecting the anti-christ to eventually have
a coronary here)
Message for the agnostics, who are automatically without the Holy
Spirit:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.christianlife/msg/3682d1982b5c0a09?
or
http://tinyurl.com/nvhoe (expecting the anti-christ to suffer a cardiac
arrest here)
Message for the anti-christ, who serves satan:
LORD GOD Almighty is the Source of all intelligence, which clearly HE
has dialed down in your case since you seem unable to realize that HE
has given me the stamina to outlast you.
.
User: "Kurt Gavin"

Title: You're in denial, Andrew, in denial. 01 Aug 2006 07:00:03 PM
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1154472918.958574.87620@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Kurt Gavin wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message


You snipped out the part of my reply that you didn't like.


It remains my choice to cross only the bridges I get to.


That vacuous reply is symptomatic of your entire vacuous hypocritical
fantasy system.


Actually, replies are not symptoms. On the other hand, your inability
to comprehend what is plainly written and your perserveration are
symptoms of OBS. Would suggest you inform your doctor(s) about your
symptoms.


Another indication of your deteriorating mind.


These symptoms are yours and not mine. Indeed, OBS will lead to
cognitive deterioration.

I don't think so. It's you posts things about supernatural beings, and makes
one nonsensical argument after another.


Xian fundamentalism is removing what little intellect you have left.


It remains my choice to receive guidance from the Holy Spirit rather
than from anything of this world whether you call them doctrines or
"fundamentals."

See? You're not receiving guidance through your tin foil hat - it's voices
in your head.

Replies are very often "symptoms".


Incorrect.

To a psychiatrist, your replies are most certainly symptoms.

If an MD presses on your ribs after an
accident and asks if it hurts, your reply will tell him something.


However, the replies themselves will not be described as symptoms.
Instead, the symptom will be rib tenderness and not verbalization of
same.

Splitting hairs. The patient has to communicate the symptoms.

If a psychiatrist asks you if you have delusions of receiving messages
from
supernatural beings, your reply will tell him something.


However, the replies themselves will not be described as symptoms.
Instead, the symptom will be auditory hallucinations and not
verbalization of same.

Wrong. The stuff you say and write has allowed numerous people to diagnose
you as a wacko.


You post a LOT of things on here that indicate a brain going dead.


In one word:

Projection.

I doooooooon't think so.
You're in denial, Andrew, in denial.
.

User: "Stephen Knight"

Title: Re: Kurt Gavin acknowledges that he has OBS. 01 Aug 2006 09:29:47 PM
On 1 Aug 2006 15:55:19 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote:

It remains my choice to receive guidance from the Holy Spirit rather
than from anything of this world whether you call them doctrines or
"fundamentals."

Since there is no 'Holy Spirit', you are clearly insane.
Aside from that, how do you have 'choice' if you know you're
getting guidance from the Pixie? You're so brainwashed you think the
voices in your head are choices? Like you know it is the Pixie
speaking and you have options?
Wacky.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
.
User: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

Title: Re: Kurt Gavin acknowledges that he has OBS. 01 Aug 2006 09:43:09 PM
Stephen Knight wrote:

On 1 Aug 2006 15:55:19 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote:

It remains my choice to receive guidance from the Holy Spirit rather
than from anything of this world whether you call them doctrines or
"fundamentals."


Since there is no 'Holy Spirit', you are clearly insane.

Not for the discerning.
Still praying for you, dear neighbor Steve.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
Messages for the wolves in sheepskin:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4f43855be1cfa795?
or
http://tinyurl.com/povfe (awaiting the continued frantic foot-stomping
antics of the anti-christ)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/46204a10b967b1a1?
or
http://tinyurl.com/mm58k (awaiting the bluster of the anti-christ)
Messages for my brethren (there is unity in the Holy Spirit):
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/7bff7f0b57577900?
or
http://tinyurl.com/ng62u (expecting the anti-christ to eventually have
a coronary here)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/522dcd6b0572ffcf?
or
http://tinyurl.com/j3pka (expecting the anti-christ to despair)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0870348449f859c1?
or
http://tinyurl.com/j9jeg (expecting the anti-christ to panic)
Messages for the agnostics, who are automatically without the Holy
Spirit:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.christianlife/msg/3682d1982b5c0a09?
or
http://tinyurl.com/nvhoe (expecting the anti-christ to suffer a cardiac
arrest here)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3c57889fb4fb7f7b?
or
http://tinyurl.com/gem5k (expecting the anti-christ gets tossed into
the lake of fire)
Message for the anti-christ, who serves satan:
LORD GOD Almighty is the Source of all intelligence, which clearly HE
has dialed down in your case since you seem unable to realize that HE
has given me the stamina to outlast you.
.
User: "Stephen Knight"

Title: Re: Kurt Gavin acknowledges that he has OBS. 02 Aug 2006 10:15:13 PM
On 1 Aug 2006 19:43:09 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<nospam2@heartmdphd.com> wrote:

Stephen Knight wrote:

On 1 Aug 2006 15:55:19 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote:

It remains my choice to receive guidance from the Holy Spirit rather
than from anything of this world whether you call them doctrines or
"fundamentals."


Since there is no 'Holy Spirit', you are clearly insane.


Not for the discerning.

I don't understand. What does that mean?
Are you warping the word 'discerning' in an attempt to pervert it
to mean something poignant to explain insanity and superstition?
Insane people are classic at redefining definitions and they don't
even know it.
Once again.... I'm asking you to define what you've said. Something
concrete, not ethereal, vague or the (typical for you) Sock Puppet
response.
I'm betting I've made more christians worry about their faith than
you've made atheists worry about being non-believers.
Are you going to answer or ignore?
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
.







User: ""

Title: Re: Love thy atheist neighbor. 31 Jul 2006 10:30:22 PM
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

Kurt Gavin wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1154385080.957891.119450@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...

Kurt Gavin wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam2@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1154382110.231923.23420@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

Kurt Gavin wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam3@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1154329467.061428.42290@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...

Stephen Knight wrote:

On 30 Jul 2006 14:18:22 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote:

The truth is not delusion.


The so called 'truth', IS a delusion when it conforms to
superstitious standards.


Not for the discerning.

The LORD's purpose for me here remains to inform and not convert.


There's no information in your posts.


Not for the discerning.


Correct


Glad you agree.


You snipped out the part of my reply that you didn't like.


It remains my choice to cross only the bridges I get to.

That's because you're not intelligent enough to address the points he's
made, you ignorant coward. Drop dead, you lying piece of trash.
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Martian Commander
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
.
User: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

Title: Re: Love thy atheist neighbor. 01 Aug 2006 07:36:18 AM
wrote:

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

Kurt Gavin wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1154385080.957891.119450@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...

Kurt Gavin wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam2@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1154382110.231923.23420@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

Kurt Gavin wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam3@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1154329467.061428.42290@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...

Stephen Knight wrote:

On 30 Jul 2006 14:18:22 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote:

The truth is not delusion.


The so called 'truth', IS a delusion when it conforms to
superstitious standards.


Not for the discerning.

The LORD's purpose for me here remains to inform and not convert.


There's no information in your posts.


Not for the discerning.


Correct


Glad you agree.


You snipped out the part of my reply that you didn't like.


It remains my choice to cross only the bridges I get to.


That's because you're not intelligent enough to address the points he's
made, you ignorant coward. Drop dead, you lying piece of trash.

Sorry my choice bothers you so terribly. Please forgive all my
iniquities.
Still praying for you, dear neighbor Floyd.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
Messages for the wolves in sheepskin:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/4f43855be1cfa795?
or
http://tinyurl.com/povfe (awaiting the continued frantic foot-stomping
antics of the anti-christ)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/46204a10b967b1a1?
or
http://tinyurl.com/mm58k (awaiting the bluster of the anti-christ)
Message for my brethren (there is unity in the Holy Spirit):
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/7bff7f0b57577900?
or
http://tinyurl.com/ng62u (expecting the anti-christ to eventually have
a coronary here)
Message for the agnostics, who are automatically without the Holy
Spirit:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.christnet.christianlife/msg/3682d1982b5c0a09?
or
http://tinyurl.com/nvhoe (expecting the anti-christ to suffer a cardiac
arrest here)
Message for the anti-christ, who serves satan:
LORD GOD Almighty is the Source of all intelligence, which clearly HE
has dialed down in your case since you seem unable to realize that HE
has given me the stamina to outlast you.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Love thy atheist neighbor. 01 Aug 2006 08:39:36 PM
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

panamfloyd@hotmail.com wrote:

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

Kurt Gavin wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1154385080.957891.119450@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...

Kurt Gavin wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam2@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1154382110.231923.23420@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

Kurt Gavin wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam3@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1154329467.061428.42290@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...

Stephen Knight wrote:

On 30 Jul 2006 14:18:22 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote:

The truth is not delusion.


The so called 'truth', IS a delusion when it conforms to
superstitious standards.


Not for the discerning.

The LORD's purpose for me here remains to inform and not convert.


There's no information in your posts.


Not for the discerning.


Correct


Glad you agree.


You snipped out the part of my reply that you didn't like.


It remains my choice to cross only the bridges I get to.


That's because you're not intelligent enough to address the points he's
made, you ignorant coward. Drop dead, you lying piece of trash.


Sorry my choice bothers you so terribly. Please forgive all my
iniquities.

No.
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Martian Commander
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
.
















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