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Religions > Atheism |
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"Skepticus" |
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05 Apr 2004 11:01:19 AM |
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Re: The burden of proof |
Chris S. wrote:
Skepticus wrote:
KISS. To keep it simple, thests just have an unsupported belief that a
magic invisible sky pixie might exist anyway, even though there is no
evidence of it.
And I disagreed with this how?
By saying that theism is identical to atheism, in that it is an absence
of belief. You said, "Christians have the absence of belief in the
nonexistence of god."
The problem with that is nobody has a "belief in the nonexistence of
god," since there is no god. Atheism is simply an absence of the belief
in the existencee of gods that theists have.
Also, to keep it simple, "There is no god" is not a claim, it is the
denial of one, and the burden of proof cannot be shifted to the denial.
Shifting the burden of proof is the fallacy of putting the burden of
proof on the person who denies or questions the assertion in question.
The source of the fallacy is the assumption that the assertion is true
unless proven otherwise.
http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#shifting
denial : the negation in logic [www.m-w.com] [dictionary.reference.com]
denial : synonym negation [www.m-w.com/thesaurus]
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| User: "Virgil" |
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| Title: Re: The burden of proof |
05 Apr 2004 12:49:36 PM |
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In article <jpfcc.73579$gA5.893658@attbi_s03>,
Skepticus <skep@theatheism.web> wrote:
Chris S. wrote:
Skepticus wrote:
KISS. To keep it simple, thests just have an unsupported belief that a
magic invisible sky pixie might exist anyway, even though there is no
evidence of it.
And I disagreed with this how?
By saying that theism is identical to atheism, in that it is an absence
of belief. You said, "Christians have the absence of belief in the
nonexistence of god."
The problem with that is nobody has a "belief in the nonexistence of
god," since there is no god.
That sentence demonstrates perfectly the oxymoronic logic of Septic
Capon, the Simple Pimple.
The statement "there is no god" expresses exactly the belief that god is
non-existent.
Atheism is simply an absence of the belief
in the existencee of gods that theists have.
Also, to keep it simple [ and false ], "There is no god" is not a claim, it is the
denial of one, and the burden of proof cannot be shifted to the denial.
This falsehood Septic Capon, the Simple Pimple, repeats like a mantra,
hoping to make the truth go away.
One can properly deny that the existence of any god has been proved, but
one cannot properly assert that the impossibility of any gods has been
proved until such proof has been produced.
But Septic Capon, the Simple Pimple, in his oxymoronic way, keeps
commiting exactly that sin against logic.
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