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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "JaBrIoL"
Date: 25 Sep 2003 06:29:48 AM
Object: Re: The Cambrian Outburst
John Harshman <jharshman.diespamdie@pacbell.net> wrote in message news:<3F71E9C6.8020702@pacbell.net>...

P Bowles wrote:

In article <3F71D60F.4030408@pacbell.net>, John Harshman
<jharshman.diespamdie@pacbell.net> writes:


All except for being wrong. Chlorophyll does have magnesium in it, and
it is very similar to heme (not hemoglobin)


As I said, it's a pigment rather than a protein, as is heme, while haemoglobin
is a protein. The difference in structure is crucial, as it is the globin and
cyanin components in blood-transport systems that bind the oxygen,



Beg pardon? It's the heme that binds the oxygen. That's what it's for.
The globin is just there to increase specificity and alter the binding
properties so the heme binds and lets go at the right times.

leading to
the next point: chlorophyll is not an oxygen transport mechanism, but a light
absorber that forms one link in the electron transport system, a very different
function. I'll admiot that I wasn't aware of the magnesium component, but based
on its very different properties and structure the essential point that
chlorophyll is not a 'plant equivalent' of haemoglobin remains valid.



Its structure is almost identical to heme. It's very likely that the
metabolic pathways by which they are produced are descended from the
same ancestral pathways, so in some weird sense chlorphyll and heme are
"paralogs".

Look. Jabriol was wrong about much of what he said. But so are you.
Jabriol was right about a few things. You are probably right about more
things, though I haven't counted. But you need to acknowledge errors here.

Disagreements among scientists on usenet.. nahhhhhhhhhhh
Jabriol right about anything? NNNNNNNNNAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
at least that is the popular view on things :-)
.

User: "Kermit"

Title: Re: The Cambrian Outburst 26 Sep 2003 12:48:03 AM
buddy...no one is a complete idiot...not even u :0)
Steve
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User: "[|] jpturcaud"

Title: Re: The Cambrian Outburst 29 Sep 2003 03:15:50 PM
~~Ignorance Is The Cosmic Sin, The One Never Forgiven ! ~~
"JaBrIoL" <Jabriol@excite.com> a écrit dans le message de
news:d222de3e.0309250329.6aa66e34@posting.google.com...


Its structure is almost identical to heme. It's very likely that the
metabolic pathways by which they are produced are descended from the
same ancestral pathways, so in some weird sense chlorphyll and heme are
"paralogs".

This is interesting and this is the story I have always heard !
Best
jp
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User: "John Harshman"

Title: Re: The Cambrian Outburst 29 Sep 2003 03:38:34 PM
[|] jpturcaud wrote:

~~Ignorance Is The Cosmic Sin, The One Never Forgiven ! ~~

Then you're in big trouble.


"JaBrIoL" <Jabriol@excite.com> a écrit dans le message de
news:d222de3e.0309250329.6aa66e34@posting.google.com...

Its structure is almost identical to heme. It's very likely that the
metabolic pathways by which they are produced are descended from the
same ancestral pathways, so in some weird sense chlorphyll and heme are
"paralogs".


This is interesting and this is the story I have always heard !

Jabbers didn't say that. I said it. Get your attributions right. You
were also wrong about all sorts of things you said, for instance your
claim that chlorophyll binds oxygen. Try getting your facts straight.
.



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