| Topic: |
Religions > Atheism |
| User: |
"Dr Freud" |
| Date: |
01 Mar 2005 08:53:42 PM |
| Object: |
Re: THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE PIANO |
I have a little 8 year old pupil who is brought to her lesson each week by
her mother. A charming girl but not particularly gifted or physically well
adapted to learning a keyboard instrument.She always seemed to enjoy the
lessons and used to skip up the steps to the studio with a big smile on her
face.Over the last month I have noticed a change.She seems to have lost a
lot of confidence, is very tentative and doesn't smile.
Her mother supervises her practice sessions at home and it appears has
started screaming at her at the least sign of a slip or error.It also
appears that the mother learnt piano as a child and was taught by a Catholic
nun who used to hit her over the knuckles with a ruler whenever she made an
error or slip.The mother is STILL traumatised by these memories and seems to
be unaware that she is starting to replicate this behaviour with her little
girl.
In my long teaching career I must say that this is not the first time I have
come across this sort of thing.I have had quite a few mature-age students
who are returning to the piano after a long gap which was often the result
of giving up the piano because this sort of treatment by their catholic-nun
teachers caused them to loathe the piano and music generally.One pupil told
me that as well as screaming at her and hitting her over the knuckles the
nun strongly ( and erroneously) believed that it was important to hold the
wrists very high.To this end she used to hold a very sharp pencil under the
wrist of the girl and if the wrist dropped too low.......well, you know.It
was also difficult and time-consuming to get them to relax and ultimately
enjoy their new contact with the piano.
It must be said that I have come across the occasional excellent nun-teacher
who is loved by her students and does good work, but this is relatively rare
and is far outweighed by the negative phenomenon described above.
What is it about the Catholic church that produces this sort of abusive
behaviour and destroys the love for music and the piano of so many innocent
children?
Medical and psychiatric studies have shown that sexually repressed
nuns engage in this behavior because they suffer from neurosis and
psychosis due to suppression of the normal human libido.
Previously-virgin nuns who have left the convent to marry and have
children have shown remarkable improvement in these symptoms, which
demonstrates that the environment of abstinence and sacrifice and
self-flagelation as well as living together with other repressed
virgin females produces this type of dementia.
In other words, all they need is a good lay.
.
|
|
| User: "Tock" |
|
| Title: Re: THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE PIANO |
02 Mar 2005 01:24:25 AM |
|
|
"Dr Freud" <drfreud@tellmehowyoufeel.psy> wrote
In other words, all they need is a good lay.
In other words, they need to forget putting roses on their piano, and
instead put tulips on an organ . . .
-Tock
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Sparky" |
|
| Title: Re: THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE PIANO |
01 Mar 2005 09:02:37 PM |
|
|
"Dr Freud" <drfreud@tellmehowyoufeel.psy> wrote in message
Medical and psychiatric studies have shown that sexually repressed
nuns engage in this behavior because they suffer from neurosis and
psychosis due to suppression of the normal human libido.
Hmm. Nuns. Ain't got none. Don't want none. Never will get none.
Previously-virgin nuns who have left the convent to marry and have
children have shown remarkable improvement in these symptoms, which
demonstrates that the environment of abstinence and sacrifice and
self-flagelation as well as living together with other repressed
virgin females produces this type of dementia.
In other words, all they need is a good lay.
Who in their right mind would want to make love to some dried up old
hag with psychological problems?
.
|
|
|
| User: "christian" |
|
| Title: Re: THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE PIANO |
01 Mar 2005 10:32:25 PM |
|
|
"Sparky" <sparkles@techTT.com> wrote:
"Dr Freud" <drfreud@tellmehowyoufeel.psy> wrote in message
Medical and psychiatric studies have shown that sexually repressed
nuns engage in this behavior because they suffer from neurosis and
psychosis due to suppression of the normal human libido.
Hmm. Nuns. Ain't got none. Don't want none. Never will get none.
Previously-virgin nuns who have left the convent to marry and have
children have shown remarkable improvement in these symptoms, which
demonstrates that the environment of abstinence and sacrifice and
self-flagelation as well as living together with other repressed
virgin females produces this type of dementia.
In other words, all they need is a good lay.
Who in their right mind would want to make love to some dried up old
hag with psychological problems?
What makes you think they would want to make love to YOU??
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "albert landa" |
|
| Title: Re: THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE PIANO |
01 Mar 2005 09:35:37 PM |
|
|
I'm certainly not an expert in this area but I have heard that it's a pretty
standard sexual fantasy That is, the violent rape of a
virginal,sexually-repressed, but secretly wildly libidinous nun.
albert landa
"Sparky" <sparkles@techTT.com> wrote in message
news:h1aVd.91941$Th1.9284@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
"Dr Freud" <drfreud@tellmehowyoufeel.psy> wrote in message
Medical and psychiatric studies have shown that sexually repressed
nuns engage in this behavior because they suffer from neurosis and
psychosis due to suppression of the normal human libido.
Hmm. Nuns. Ain't got none. Don't want none. Never will get none.
Previously-virgin nuns who have left the convent to marry and have
children have shown remarkable improvement in these symptoms, which
demonstrates that the environment of abstinence and sacrifice and
self-flagelation as well as living together with other repressed
virgin females produces this type of dementia.
In other words, all they need is a good lay.
Who in their right mind would want to make love to some dried up old
hag with psychological problems?
.
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "TDP" |
|
| Title: Re: THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE PIANO |
01 Mar 2005 09:03:11 PM |
|
|
In other words, all they need is a good lay.
Nice try but, uh uh!
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "christian" |
|
| Title: Re: THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE PIANO |
01 Mar 2005 10:28:37 PM |
|
|
Dr Freud <drfreud@tellmehowyoufeel.psy> wrote:
I have a little 8 year old pupil who is brought to her lesson each week by
her mother. A charming girl but not particularly gifted or physically well
adapted to learning a keyboard instrument.She always seemed to enjoy the
lessons and used to skip up the steps to the studio with a big smile on her
face.Over the last month I have noticed a change.She seems to have lost a
lot of confidence, is very tentative and doesn't smile.
Her mother supervises her practice sessions at home and it appears has
started screaming at her at the least sign of a slip or error.It also
appears that the mother learnt piano as a child and was taught by a Catholic
nun who used to hit her over the knuckles with a ruler whenever she made an
error or slip.The mother is STILL traumatised by these memories and seems to
be unaware that she is starting to replicate this behaviour with her little
girl.
In my long teaching career I must say that this is not the first time I have
come across this sort of thing.I have had quite a few mature-age students
who are returning to the piano after a long gap which was often the result
of giving up the piano because this sort of treatment by their catholic-nun
teachers caused them to loathe the piano and music generally.One pupil told
me that as well as screaming at her and hitting her over the knuckles the
nun strongly ( and erroneously) believed that it was important to hold the
wrists very high.To this end she used to hold a very sharp pencil under the
wrist of the girl and if the wrist dropped too low.......well, you know.It
was also difficult and time-consuming to get them to relax and ultimately
enjoy their new contact with the piano.
It must be said that I have come across the occasional excellent nun-teacher
who is loved by her students and does good work, but this is relatively rare
and is far outweighed by the negative phenomenon described above.
What is it about the Catholic church that produces this sort of abusive
behaviour and destroys the love for music and the piano of so many innocent
children?
Medical and psychiatric studies have shown that sexually repressed
nuns engage in this behavior because they suffer from neurosis and
psychosis due to suppression of the normal human libido.
Previously-virgin nuns who have left the convent to marry and have
children have shown remarkable improvement in these symptoms, which
demonstrates that the environment of abstinence and sacrifice and
self-flagelation as well as living together with other repressed
virgin females produces this type of dementia.
In other words, all they need is a good lay.
You people are insane. If it weren't for the Catholic Church millions
of people on earth would have never even received an education. Or a
hot meal. Or medical care.
At least when the Church was in charge we didn't have the cesspool
that is society today. Nothing but promiscuity, pornography,
abortion, gay marriage.
You should thank those wonderful nuns for rapping your knuckles with
their rulers. You can be sure there were ZERO abortions back then,
none of this gay lifestyle nonsense, and people were honest, decent,
and behaved in a moral way.
Bring back the nuns and the Catholic Church and let them flush out all
the raw sewage out of our schools and our society. Especially
abortion, which is the biggest evil of all, because it involves
killing other human beings. It's the biggest holocaust in the world.
God Bless
.
|
|
|
| User: "Tony Elka" |
|
| Title: Re: THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE PIANO |
01 Mar 2005 10:47:03 PM |
|
|
In article <2sfa21pu3142180lpll1tktg5v1qq7ipib@4ax.com>,
christian <for@the.love.of.god> wrote:
At least when the Church was in charge we didn't have the cesspool
that is society today. Nothing but promiscuity, pornography,
abortion, gay marriage.
Don't forget all those people they burned at the stake. If you think
that's OK, but pornography is bad, I hate to think what you jerk off to.
Tony
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
|
| Title: Re: THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE PIANO |
01 Mar 2005 10:51:43 PM |
|
|
On 01 Mar 2005, christian dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
You people are insane. If it weren't for the Catholic Church millions
of people on earth would have never even received an education. Or a
hot meal. Or medical care.
Or a good pre-teen fucking. Up the ***** if you were lucky.
At least when the Church was in charge we didn't have the cesspool
that is society today. Nothing but promiscuity, pornography,
abortion, gay marriage.
No, we had witch burnings, torture, the Dark Ages, and the Spanish
Inquisition. Much better, don't you think?
You should thank those wonderful nuns for rapping your knuckles with
their rulers. You can be sure there were ZERO abortions back then,
none of this gay lifestyle nonsense, and people were honest, decent,
and behaved in a moral way.
Yup. And if you didn't, you could look forward to being hung by your
wrists on a concrete wall until you die.
Bring back the nuns and the Catholic Church and let them flush out all
the raw sewage out of our schools and our society. Especially
abortion, which is the biggest evil of all, because it involves
killing other human beings. It's the biggest holocaust in the world.
God Bless
This is a parody, right?
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
______________
As you were, I was. As I am, you will be.
--- Hunter S. Thompson
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Attila" |
|
| Title: Re: THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE PIANO |
02 Mar 2005 07:35:11 AM |
|
|
On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 23:28:37 -0500, christian <for@the.love.of.god> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<2sfa21pu3142180lpll1tktg5v1qq7ipib@4ax.com> wrote:
You people are insane. If it weren't for the Catholic Church millions
of people on earth would have never even received an education.
Including indoctrination and brain washing.
Or a
hot meal. Or medical care.
Only if that medical care is in line with the church.
At least when the Church was in charge we didn't have the cesspool
that is society today. Nothing but promiscuity, pornography,
abortion, gay marriage.
Just witch burnings, and persecution of anyone who did not support the
church in every way.
You should thank those wonderful nuns for rapping your knuckles with
their rulers. You can be sure there were ZERO abortions back then,
Sorry. There have been abortions for as far back as history goes.
none of this gay lifestyle nonsense, and people were honest, decent,
and behaved in a moral way.
Almost everybody who refers to "moral"
means "what I think that you should do".
Bring back the nuns and the Catholic Church and let them flush out all
the raw sewage out of our schools and our society.
How about those of us who want nothing to do with your church or the
life it demands?
Especially
abortion, which is the biggest evil of all, because it involves
killing other human beings.
No, it doesn't. And what gives you the right to demand others live
according to your opinions?
It's the biggest holocaust in the world.
Nope.
God Bless
Which god? Prove it exists.
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Chris Thompson" |
|
| Title: Re: THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE PIANO |
01 Mar 2005 11:19:09 PM |
|
|
christian <for@the.love.of.god> wrote in
news:2sfa21pu3142180lpll1tktg5v1qq7ipib@4ax.com:
Dr Freud <drfreud@tellmehowyoufeel.psy> wrote:
I have a little 8 year old pupil who is brought to her lesson each
week by her mother. A charming girl but not particularly gifted or
physically well adapted to learning a keyboard instrument.She always
seemed to enjoy the lessons and used to skip up the steps to the
studio with a big smile on her face.Over the last month I have
noticed a change.She seems to have lost a lot of confidence, is very
tentative and doesn't smile.
Her mother supervises her practice sessions at home and it appears
has started screaming at her at the least sign of a slip or error.It
also appears that the mother learnt piano as a child and was taught
by a Catholic nun who used to hit her over the knuckles with a ruler
whenever she made an error or slip.The mother is STILL traumatised by
these memories and seems to be unaware that she is starting to
replicate this behaviour with her little girl.
In my long teaching career I must say that this is not the first time
I have come across this sort of thing.I have had quite a few
mature-age students who are returning to the piano after a long gap
which was often the result of giving up the piano because this sort
of treatment by their catholic-nun teachers caused them to loathe the
piano and music generally.One pupil told me that as well as screaming
at her and hitting her over the knuckles the nun strongly ( and
erroneously) believed that it was important to hold the wrists very
high.To this end she used to hold a very sharp pencil under the wrist
of the girl and if the wrist dropped too low.......well, you know.It
was also difficult and time-consuming to get them to relax and
ultimately enjoy their new contact with the piano.
It must be said that I have come across the occasional excellent
nun-teacher who is loved by her students and does good work, but this
is relatively rare and is far outweighed by the negative phenomenon
described above.
What is it about the Catholic church that produces this sort of
abusive behaviour and destroys the love for music and the piano of so
many innocent children?
Medical and psychiatric studies have shown that sexually repressed
nuns engage in this behavior because they suffer from neurosis and
psychosis due to suppression of the normal human libido.
Previously-virgin nuns who have left the convent to marry and have
children have shown remarkable improvement in these symptoms, which
demonstrates that the environment of abstinence and sacrifice and
self-flagelation as well as living together with other repressed
virgin females produces this type of dementia.
In other words, all they need is a good lay.
You people are insane. If it weren't for the Catholic Church millions
of people on earth would have never even received an education. Or a
hot meal. Or medical care.
At least when the Church was in charge we didn't have the cesspool
that is society today. Nothing but promiscuity, pornography,
abortion, gay marriage.
You should thank those wonderful nuns for rapping your knuckles with
their rulers. You can be sure there were ZERO abortions back then,
none of this gay lifestyle nonsense, and people were honest, decent,
and behaved in a moral way.
Bring back the nuns and the Catholic Church and let them flush out all
the raw sewage out of our schools and our society. Especially
abortion, which is the biggest evil of all, because it involves
killing other human beings. It's the biggest holocaust in the world.
God Bless
Woohoo! If this was talk.origins (where I usually hang out) I would hand
this a 9.6 on the Loki-O-meter.
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Dave" |
|
| Title: Re: THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE PIANO |
02 Mar 2005 03:44:42 PM |
|
|
christian wrote:
You people are insane. If it weren't for the Catholic Church
millions of people on earth would have never even received an
education. Or a hot meal. Or medical care.
Or been fed lies and then used.
At least when the Church was in charge we didn't have the
cesspool that is society today. Nothing but promiscuity,
pornography, abortion, gay marriage.
None of which would bother you if you'd just MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS.
.
|
|
|
| User: "Johnny" |
|
| Title: Re: THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE PIANO |
02 Mar 2005 05:02:15 PM |
|
|
"Dave" <galt_57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1109799882.047160.191460@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
christian wrote:
You people are insane. If it weren't for the Catholic Church
millions of people on earth would have never even received an
education. Or a hot meal. Or medical care.
Or been fed lies and then used.
What lies?
At least when the Church was in charge we didn't have the
cesspool that is society today. Nothing but promiscuity,
pornography, abortion, gay marriage.
None of which would bother you if you'd just MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS.
Ridiculous.
.
|
|
|
| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
|
| Title: Re: THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE PIANO |
02 Mar 2005 11:53:59 PM |
|
|
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Dave" <galt_57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1109799882.047160.191460@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
christian wrote:
You people are insane. If it weren't for the Catholic Church
millions of people on earth would have never even received an
education. Or a hot meal. Or medical care.
Or been fed lies and then used.
What lies?
Go out and find out for yourself.
At least when the Church was in charge we didn't have the
cesspool that is society today. Nothing but promiscuity,
pornography, abortion, gay marriage.
None of which would bother you if you'd just MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS.
Ridiculous.
Really? Try minding someone else's business without their consent and see how
long you're allowed out in society.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 2, San Antonio 0 (March 2)
NEXT GAME: Thursday, March 3 at San Antonio, 7:05
.
|
|
|
| User: "Johnny" |
|
| Title: Re: THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE PIANO |
03 Mar 2005 07:37:08 AM |
|
|
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkd5uhgtqg.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Dave" <galt_57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1109799882.047160.191460@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
christian wrote:
You people are insane. If it weren't for the Catholic Church
millions of people on earth would have never even received an
education. Or a hot meal. Or medical care.
Or been fed lies and then used.
What lies?
Go out and find out for yourself.
Nah. Anyone who asserts to me anything to be true or false should be
prepared to demonstrate to me the validity of their assertion without
telling me to do anything.
At least when the Church was in charge we didn't have the
cesspool that is society today. Nothing but promiscuity,
pornography, abortion, gay marriage.
None of which would bother you if you'd just MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS.
Ridiculous.
Really?
Very much so, and quite hypocritical.
Try minding someone else's business without their consent and see how
long you're allowed out in society.
Tell that to the GOD DAMNABLY unjust people in government who are sticking
their nose into my business and everyone else's business via their GOD
DAMNABLY unjust usuriousness and shove it down the throat same-sex marriage
and abortion on demand agendas.
.
|
|
|
| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
|
| Title: Re: THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE PIANO |
03 Mar 2005 11:28:21 PM |
|
|
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkd5uhgtqg.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Dave" <galt_57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1109799882.047160.191460@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
christian wrote:
You people are insane. If it weren't for the Catholic Church
millions of people on earth would have never even received an
education. Or a hot meal. Or medical care.
Or been fed lies and then used.
What lies?
Go out and find out for yourself.
Nah. Anyone who asserts to me anything to be true or false should be
prepared to demonstrate to me the validity of their assertion without
telling me to do anything.
Idiot. I didn't make the assertion that's got your knickers in a knot. Maybe
you should get your handlers to count the little chevrons for you and point
out to you precisely who made that statement.
At least when the Church was in charge we didn't have the
cesspool that is society today. Nothing but promiscuity,
pornography, abortion, gay marriage.
None of which would bother you if you'd just MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS.
Ridiculous.
Really?
Very much so, and quite hypocritical.
It's hypocritical for *you* to mind your own business? I'd say it's more an
issue of whether you want to live longer or not.
Try minding someone else's business without their consent and see how
long you're allowed out in society.
Tell that to the GOD DAMNABLY unjust people in government who are sticking
their nose into my business and everyone else's business via their GOD
DAMNABLY unjust usuriousness and shove it down the throat same-sex marriage
and abortion on demand agendas.
Is anyone forcing you to be gay, or abort? No? Then kindly find something
else to be obsessed with, or else the state MHMRA (or its South Carolina
equivalent) will have to haul you back in again.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: San Antonio 4, Houston 3 (OT) (March 3)
NEXT GAME: Friday, March 4 vs. Hartford, 7:35
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Attila" |
|
| Title: Re: THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE PIANO |
03 Mar 2005 10:56:59 AM |
|
|
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 08:37:08 -0500, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<3lEVd.28314$hd6.22023@bignews1.bellsouth.net> wrote:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkd5uhgtqg.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Dave" <galt_57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1109799882.047160.191460@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
christian wrote:
You people are insane. If it weren't for the Catholic Church
millions of people on earth would have never even received an
education. Or a hot meal. Or medical care.
Or been fed lies and then used.
What lies?
Go out and find out for yourself.
Nah. Anyone who asserts to me anything to be true or false should be
prepared to demonstrate to me the validity of their assertion without
telling me to do anything.
At least when the Church was in charge we didn't have the
cesspool that is society today. Nothing but promiscuity,
pornography, abortion, gay marriage.
None of which would bother you if you'd just MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS.
Ridiculous.
Really?
Very much so, and quite hypocritical.
Try minding someone else's business without their consent and see how
long you're allowed out in society.
Tell that to the GOD DAMNABLY unjust people
Prove these people are unjust.
in government who are sticking
their nose into my business and everyone else's business
Not mine, therefore you statement is false.
via their GOD
DAMNABLY unjust usuriousness and shove it down the throat same-sex marriage
and abortion on demand agendas.
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Somewriter" |
|
| Title: Re: THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE PIANO |
03 Mar 2005 08:18:40 AM |
|
|
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 08:37:08 -0500, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkd5uhgtqg.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Dave" <galt_57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1109799882.047160.191460@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
christian wrote:
You people are insane. If it weren't for the Catholic Church
millions of people on earth would have never even received an
education. Or a hot meal. Or medical care.
Or been fed lies and then used.
What lies?
Go out and find out for yourself.
Nah. Anyone who asserts to me anything to be true or false should be
prepared to demonstrate to me the validity of their assertion without
telling me to do anything.
Can you provide me of an example of what god has done for you, in
return for your alleged dedication to him?
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Somewriter" |
|
| Title: Re: THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE PIANO |
03 Mar 2005 07:48:47 AM |
|
|
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 08:37:08 -0500, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkd5uhgtqg.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Dave" <galt_57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1109799882.047160.191460@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
christian wrote:
You people are insane. If it weren't for the Catholic Church
millions of people on earth would have never even received an
education. Or a hot meal. Or medical care.
Or been fed lies and then used.
What lies?
Go out and find out for yourself.
Nah. Anyone who asserts to me anything to be true or false should be
prepared to demonstrate to me the validity of their assertion without
telling me to do anything.
Can you provide me of an example of what god has done to you, in
return for your alleged dedication to him?
.
|
|
|
| User: "Johnny" |
|
| Title: Re: THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE PIANO |
03 Mar 2005 08:11:01 AM |
|
|
"Somewriter" <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message
news:ec5e21d443gl939nara1moo050rd9qfgge@4ax.com...
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 08:37:08 -0500, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkd5uhgtqg.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Dave" <galt_57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1109799882.047160.191460@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
christian wrote:
You people are insane. If it weren't for the Catholic Church
millions of people on earth would have never even received an
education. Or a hot meal. Or medical care.
Or been fed lies and then used.
What lies?
Go out and find out for yourself.
Nah. Anyone who asserts to me anything to be true or false should be
prepared to demonstrate to me the validity of their assertion without
telling me to do anything.
Can you provide me of an example of what god has done to you, in
return for your alleged dedication to him?
Is that the question at hand?
No, it isn't.
.
|
|
|
| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
|
| Title: Re: THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE PIANO |
03 Mar 2005 11:30:31 PM |
|
|
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Somewriter" <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message
news:ec5e21d443gl939nara1moo050rd9qfgge@4ax.com...
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 08:37:08 -0500, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkd5uhgtqg.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Dave" <galt_57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1109799882.047160.191460@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
christian wrote:
You people are insane. If it weren't for the Catholic Church
millions of people on earth would have never even received an
education. Or a hot meal. Or medical care.
Or been fed lies and then used.
What lies?
Go out and find out for yourself.
Nah. Anyone who asserts to me anything to be true or false should be
prepared to demonstrate to me the validity of their assertion without
telling me to do anything.
Can you provide me of an example of what god has done to you, in
return for your alleged dedication to him?
Is that the question at hand? No, it isn't.
Are you continuing to refuse to answer simple questions as to your
motivations? Yes, you are.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: San Antonio 4, Houston 3 (OT) (March 3)
NEXT GAME: Friday, March 4 vs. Hartford, 7:35
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Somewriter" |
|
| Title: Re: THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE PIANO |
03 Mar 2005 09:20:11 AM |
|
|
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 09:11:01 -0500, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
"Somewriter" <sappywriter@poetic.com> wrote in message
news:ec5e21d443gl939nara1moo050rd9qfgge@4ax.com...
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 08:37:08 -0500, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkd5uhgtqg.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Dave" <galt_57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1109799882.047160.191460@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
christian wrote:
You people are insane. If it weren't for the Catholic Church
millions of people on earth would have never even received an
education. Or a hot meal. Or medical care.
Or been fed lies and then used.
What lies?
Go out and find out for yourself.
Nah. Anyone who asserts to me anything to be true or false should be
prepared to demonstrate to me the validity of their assertion without
telling me to do anything.
Can you provide me of an example of what god has done to you, in
return for your alleged dedication to him?
Is that the question...
Yes???
.
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "Attila" |
|
| Title: Re: THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE PIANO |
03 Mar 2005 10:57:37 AM |
|
|
On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 08:48:47 -0500, Somewriter
<sappywriter@poetic.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<ec5e21d443gl939nara1moo050rd9qfgge@4ax.com> wrote:
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 08:37:08 -0500, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkd5uhgtqg.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Dave" <galt_57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1109799882.047160.191460@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
christian wrote:
You people are insane. If it weren't for the Catholic Church
millions of people on earth would have never even received an
education. Or a hot meal. Or medical care.
Or been fed lies and then used.
What lies?
Go out and find out for yourself.
Nah. Anyone who asserts to me anything to be true or false should be
prepared to demonstrate to me the validity of their assertion without
telling me to do anything.
Can you provide me of an example of what god has done to you, in
return for your alleged dedication to him?
That is a clear assertion that a god exists. Prove it.
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Patrick Lee Humphrey" |
|
| Title: Re: THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE PIANO |
03 Mar 2005 11:29:22 PM |
|
|
Somewriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> writes:
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 08:37:08 -0500, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkd5uhgtqg.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Dave" <galt_57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1109799882.047160.191460@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
christian wrote:
You people are insane. If it weren't for the Catholic Church
millions of people on earth would have never even received an
education. Or a hot meal. Or medical care.
Or been fed lies and then used.
What lies?
Go out and find out for yourself.
Nah. Anyone who asserts to me anything to be true or false should be
prepared to demonstrate to me the validity of their assertion without
telling me to do anything.
Can you provide me of an example of what god has done to you, in
return for your alleged dedication to him?
If there is one, I'd believe he's using Johnny as the quintessential bad
example. ;-)
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: San Antonio 4, Houston 3 (OT) (March 3)
NEXT GAME: Friday, March 4 vs. Hartford, 7:35
.
|
|
|
| User: "Somewriter" |
|
| Title: Re: THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE PIANO |
04 Mar 2005 07:28:03 AM |
|
|
On 03 Mar 2005 23:29:22 -0600, Patrick Lee Humphrey <patrick@io.com>
wrote:
Somewriter <sappywriter@poetic.com> writes:
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 08:37:08 -0500, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
wrote:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkd5uhgtqg.fsf@eris.io.com...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> writes:
"Dave" <galt_57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1109799882.047160.191460@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
christian wrote:
You people are insane. If it weren't for the Catholic Church
millions of people on earth would have never even received an
education. Or a hot meal. Or medical care.
Or been fed lies and then used.
What lies?
Go out and find out for yourself.
Nah. Anyone who asserts to me anything to be true or false should be
prepared to demonstrate to me the validity of their assertion without
telling me to do anything.
Can you provide me of an example of what god has done to you, in
return for your alleged dedication to him?
If there is one, I'd believe he's using Johnny as the quintessential bad
example. ;-)
God is awesome...
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "Attila" |
|
| Title: Re: THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE PIANO |
02 Mar 2005 05:45:05 PM |
|
|
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 18:02:15 -0500, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<VwrVd.26963$hd6.15650@bignews1.bellsouth.net> wrote:
"Dave" <galt_57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1109799882.047160.191460@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
christian wrote:
You people are insane. If it weren't for the Catholic Church
millions of people on earth would have never even received an
education. Or a hot meal. Or medical care.
Or been fed lies and then used.
What lies?
Religious indoctrination.
At least when the Church was in charge we didn't have the
cesspool that is society today. Nothing but promiscuity,
pornography, abortion, gay marriage.
None of which would bother you if you'd just MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS.
Ridiculous.
.
|
|
|
| User: "Johnny" |
|
| Title: Re: THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE PIANO |
02 Mar 2005 06:00:56 PM |
|
|
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:gvjc21djur6voqbh0va1v6gu9k0ougj7dd@4ax.com...
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 18:02:15 -0500, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<VwrVd.26963$hd6.15650@bignews1.bellsouth.net> wrote:
"Dave" <galt_57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1109799882.047160.191460@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
christian wrote:
You people are insane. If it weren't for the Catholic Church
millions of people on earth would have never even received an
education. Or a hot meal. Or medical care.
Or been fed lies and then used.
What lies?
Religious indoctrination.
What lies though?
Just as you ask for proof that God exists, you are required to prove that
any religious doctrine is a lie.
Otherwise, your answer is unproven.
.
|
|
|
| User: "BOB" |
|
| Title: Re: THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE PIANO |
02 Mar 2005 06:08:35 PM |
|
|
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in
news:UnsVd.26996$hd6.12455@bignews1.bellsouth.net:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:gvjc21djur6voqbh0va1v6gu9k0ougj7dd@4ax.com...
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 18:02:15 -0500, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<VwrVd.26963$hd6.15650@bignews1.bellsouth.net> wrote:
"Dave" <galt_57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1109799882.047160.191460@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
christian wrote:
You people are insane. If it weren't for the Catholic Church
millions of people on earth would have never even received an
education. Or a hot meal. Or medical care.
Or been fed lies and then used.
What lies?
Religious indoctrination.
What lies though?
Just as you ask for proof that God exists, you are required to prove
that any religious doctrine is a lie.
Otherwise, your answer is unproven.
OK, start with the original lie where you claim your "god" exists without
being able to prove it.
.
|
|
|
| User: "Johnny" |
|
| Title: Re: THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE PIANO |
02 Mar 2005 06:16:53 PM |
|
|
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns960DA42D77F7DSD@68.6.19.6...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in
news:UnsVd.26996$hd6.12455@bignews1.bellsouth.net:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:gvjc21djur6voqbh0va1v6gu9k0ougj7dd@4ax.com...
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 18:02:15 -0500, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<VwrVd.26963$hd6.15650@bignews1.bellsouth.net> wrote:
"Dave" <galt_57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1109799882.047160.191460@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
christian wrote:
You people are insane. If it weren't for the Catholic Church
millions of people on earth would have never even received an
education. Or a hot meal. Or medical care.
Or been fed lies and then used.
What lies?
Religious indoctrination.
What lies though?
Just as you ask for proof that God exists, you are required to prove
that any religious doctrine is a lie.
Otherwise, your answer is unproven.
OK, start with the original lie
What lie?
You must prove it to be a lie somehow or your assertion is not proved.
where you claim your "god" exists without
being able to prove it.
Where I claimed something?
The question is about religious indoctrination, it is NOT about me.
You are 'required' to prove that any religious indoctrination is a lie,
otherwise your premise is invalid.
.
|
|
|
| User: "BOB" |
|
| Title: Re: THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE PIANO |
02 Mar 2005 07:01:07 PM |
|
|
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in news:RCsVd.27001$hd6.1350
@bignews1.bellsouth.net:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns960DA42D77F7DSD@68.6.19.6...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in
news:UnsVd.26996$hd6.12455@bignews1.bellsouth.net:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:gvjc21djur6voqbh0va1v6gu9k0ougj7dd@4ax.com...
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 18:02:15 -0500, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<VwrVd.26963$hd6.15650@bignews1.bellsouth.net> wrote:
"Dave" <galt_57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1109799882.047160.191460@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
christian wrote:
You people are insane. If it weren't for the Catholic Church
millions of people on earth would have never even received an
education. Or a hot meal. Or medical care.
Or been fed lies and then used.
What lies?
Religious indoctrination.
What lies though?
Just as you ask for proof that God exists, you are required to prove
that any religious doctrine is a lie.
Otherwise, your answer is unproven.
OK, start with the original lie
What lie?
That there is a supernatural "god".
You must prove it to be a lie somehow or your assertion is not proved.
You are evading. Do you claim that there is, or is not, a supernatural
"god"?
where you claim your "god" exists without being able to prove it.
Where I claimed something?
The question is about religious indoctrination, it is NOT about me.
You are 'required' to prove that any religious indoctrination is a lie,
otherwise your premise is invalid.
Religious indoctrination claims that there is a supernatural "god". Is
that claim a "truth" or a lie?
.
|
|
|
| User: "Johnny" |
|
| Title: Re: THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE PIANO |
02 Mar 2005 07:20:24 PM |
|
|
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns960DAD15ABCD0SD@68.6.19.6...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in news:RCsVd.27001$hd6.1350
@bignews1.bellsouth.net:
"BOB" <sd@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns960DA42D77F7DSD@68.6.19.6...
"Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com> wrote in
news:UnsVd.26996$hd6.12455@bignews1.bellsouth.net:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:gvjc21djur6voqbh0va1v6gu9k0ougj7dd@4ax.com...
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 18:02:15 -0500, "Johnny" <wxpprofessional@msn.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<VwrVd.26963$hd6.15650@bignews1.bellsouth.net> wrote:
"Dave" <galt_57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1109799882.047160.191460@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
christian wrote:
You people are insane. If it weren't for the Catholic Church
millions of people on earth would have never even received an
education. Or a hot meal. Or medical care.
Or been fed lies and then used.
What lies?
Religious indoctrination.
What lies though?
Just as you ask for proof that God exists, you are required to prove
that any religious doctrine is a lie.
Otherwise, your answer is unproven.
OK, start with the original lie
What lie?
That there is a supernatural "god".
Prove it.
You are who is making the assertion, so prove it.
You must prove it to be a lie somehow or your assertion is not proved.
You are evading.
You are evading.
The question is upon you, the accuser.
The burden of proof is upon you, the accuser.
Do you claim that there is, or is not, a supernatural
"god"?
You are evading.
Prove the assertion you made or stop posting.
where you claim your "god" exists without being able to prove it.
Where I claimed something?
The question is about religious indoctrination, it is NOT about me.
You are 'required' to prove that any religious indoctrination is a lie,
otherwise your premise is invalid.
Religious indoctrination claims that there is a supernatural "god". Is
that claim a "truth" or a lie?
You are asserting it to be a lie, so you do the proof.
You are evading the original challenge that was posed which requires proof
that religious indoctrination is lies.
I will not lower myself to your evil trickery.
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Related Articles |
|
|
