What I'd like to ask you - with all due respect - is what makes you so
confident that you rise majestically above this 'mob'? And don't you
think you're being biggoted in characterising ordinary people as a mob,
anyway? (The Great Unwashed is another derogatory term frequently used
by people foolish enough to count themselves 'superior')

Hellbound, no one said that democracy was perfect, but, as Ian pointed
out, it is the best workable solution for the moment, what, by the way,
would be you idea for a better solution, communism?

Whilst communism
sounds really nice in theory, it has proved itself time and time again
not to work, look at Russia, whilst the communists, (led by Lenin, and
later Stalin,) almost trebeled the industrial output of a country that,
before the communists came into power, had been a backward farming
nation,

they did so with an iron fist, they told the people exactly
what they wanted to hear,

(sounds alot like what Hitler did, doesnt it,)

and then when they got power, used it to their own ends, (absolute
power corrupts absolutely,)

the constitution of a democratic country,
lets use America for example, (not out of choice, can't stand america
in general, but because it's widely known,)

prevents any one person to
take control of a country, or at least make it very difficult to do so,
simply because the government is govened by both the constitution, as
well as courts of law, making it almost impossible for the government
to take control of the country, this same rule applies to each facet.
in short, whilst polititions lie, cheat and steal whilst thay are in
power, at least they arent knocking on my door because i'm writing
this, and torturing me into confessing something i never did. maybe now
you will understand why everyone is fighting for democracy, cos simply
put, it's worth fighting for.

The curfew had been lifted and the gamblin' wheel shut down, Anyone with
any sense had already left town. Yet Hellbound Alleee was standin' in the
doorway saying:

"Did you know that no two democracies have ever gone to war against
each other?"

With all due respect, that is the most idiotic statement I have seen in
a long time.

That depends entirely on how you define "democracy"

Mel wrote:

That's your considered opinion is it, fuckheads? Why do you expect
to
be taken seriously?

Mel wrote:

On 3 Jul 2005 23:57:19 -0700, "Ian Braidwood" <diri.gini@virgin.net> wrote

Mel wrote:

On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 21:18:32 -0400, "Greg Evans"

Elisabeth Müller wrote:

I thought you Americans all had false teeth.

No, what we have is a false *president*.

democracy doesn't work in ANY country.
you have Bush, SA has the ANC, Zim has Zanu-PF, the UK has Blair.
where exactly DOES democracy work????

It depends on what you mean by work. Did you know that no two
democracies have ever gone to war against each other? I'd count that as
working, if you consider the rest of history; espcially in Europe.

it's just a matter of time before democracies war against each other.

Perhaps you're right, nevertheless the amount of war is considerably
reduced between democratic countries and that makes it worth while.

I don't think your equivalence of the ANC and Blair(Why not New Labour,
btw?) with Zanu PF(Why not Mugabe?) is justified. In fact, I think
you've lost your sense of proprotion.

why Zanu-PF instead of Mugabe? Because Mugabe is not the only problem. The
entire Zanu-PF party is filled with fuckheads. ditto for the ANC.

That's your considered opinion is it, fuckheads?

Why do you expect to be taken seriously?

My dear Mel, so many oppinions, yet so little reearch,

why oh why is the anc a bunch of "fuckheads,"

the south african economy was going
south (excuse the pun) long before the anc was democratically voted in,
admitadly, they sped it up a bit, but when you have a people that have
been suppressed for over 500 years, that have had inferior educateion,
(dictated by the state,)

what do you expect, South Africa is indeed,
slowly but surley coming right again, which is more than i can say for
the previous dictators,

which is exactly what they were, they sought to
control the people pf south africa, using any means nesassary,

yes i
dont agree with all of the Honerable President Thabo Mbeki's
governments policies, but they are doing their best, and slowly getting
it right. the major problem with this country is people like you mel,

people that are still holding onto the past, hoping and praying for
another white ruler, who will lead the white south africans into
supremecy again, well here is a news flash buddy, thankfully people
like you are few and far between, in general, white south africans are
more than happy to work alongside our black brethren to make this
country a place that we can all be pround of, whilst u sit back and
complain bitterly anout the government, and yet are too lazy to do
anything about it, god bless, hope you have a wonderful day :-)