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"Therion Ware" |
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02 Jun 2004 05:53:24 AM |
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Re: The Inquisition |
On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 04:33:15 -0500 in
alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, duke (duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net>) said, directing the reply to
alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic
alt.atheism added for my convenience.
On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 17:17:33 -0500, DOC <DOC@idunno.net> wrote:
Indeed, the Inquisition WAS romanist-inspired.
Uh, actually no, doc. The inquisition was inspired by heresy against the Christian
Church.
Which is to say that Stalin's gulags were inspired by the quest for
the equitable distribution of wealth and social justice, and those who
ran Soviet Communism were blameless. Yet another triumph of moral
philosophy by Duke.... Brilliant.
Despite their denials, the disgusting, horrible methods of torture used
against those poor, innocent people had their origins in Satan.
Poor, innocent people - you are a riot, doc.
You only approve of torturing the guilty? Oh, that's OK then. And
presumably you know they're guilty because they confess under torture
- and besides why would God have put suspicion into the minds of the
inquisitors *unless* they were guilty?
You know, you really are a total moral imbecile, either that or you're
perhaps trying to slope into Heaven by persuading God that you're one
of the "invincibly ignorant".
How ANYONE could possibly WILLINGLY remain in the clutches of that
accursed, blood-stained thing is beyond all comprehension.
Obviously, they choose spiritual death over eternity with the Lord.
To reply to that above by Doc (and I'll dupe it to that message), one
imagines it more that people have a great capacity to
compartmentalise. There were no doubt a number of people who, for
example, knew of the Nazi death camps, took no personal hand in them,
who were pleasant people, kind to animals and children and so forth,
but who never-the-less continued to support the Nazi government.
Or more recently, I've read a number of posts by people in my "home"
newsgroups that seek to justify and minimise what went on in Abu
Ghraib prison for reasons that, IMO, have more to do with a variation
of the "halo effect[1]" than any continent moral position.
What it comes down to is this: "the group I give my allegiance to did
this, so there has to be a good reason for it".
And then of course, the various Protestant Christian sects have their
own cases to answer which while not undertaken by bodies as formalised
as those of the RCC, more than made up for this by their enthusiasm.
And of course, they've had less time to get on with it before the rise
of secular society began to circumscribe to power of the various
Churches.
In some senses I think apologists for the Inquisition and it's
informal Protestant analogues miss the fundamental point of mainstream
Christianity - which is important *because* the apologists are almost
without exception adherents to one or other of those sects: confess
your sins and endeavour to sin no more.
But then, as I understand Christian theology, we are prone to deny the
most grievous of our sins and frequently do not see them as sins at
all. Which, one presumes explains Duke's attitude, to a degree.
If you want to read something interesting about this, that goes into
the whole socio-religious context behind being "put to the question",
you might take a look at:
"Trial by Fire and Water - The Medieval Judicial Ordeal"
Hardcover 192 pages (October 16, 1986)
Publisher: Oxford University Press Reprints distributed by Sandpiper
Books ISBN: 0198219733
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0198219733
This is, IMO, very valuable if for no other reason than it goes to
some lengths to explain the social context where these things
happened.
[1]. This is worth looking up. It's a term used in psychology.
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| User: "Thomas P." |
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05 Jun 2004 03:10:10 AM |
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On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 17:37:01 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 22:42:12 +0200, Thomas P. <tonyofbexarremovethis@yahoo.dk> wrote:
And a heretic is the same thing as a dissident.
Uhhhhh, nooooooooo. A heretic professes a total untruth against God.
No, against your concept of god. A heretic is a dissident.
Noooooooo, a heretic is one that pushes a blasphemous idea, like denying the Holy Trinity
as revealed truth, for instance.
That is your concept of the truth. That does not make it true. It
does not give you or the Church the right to kill people.
Thomas P.
None of the Emperor's clothes had been so successful before.
"But he has got nothing on," said a little child.
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| User: "• R.L. Measures" |
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05 Jun 2004 08:48:08 AM |
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In article <49t2c01smag0kmhva6mg34oj71pdm3ohk6@4ax.com>, Thomas P.
<tonyofbexarremovethis@yahoo.dk> wrote:
On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 17:37:01 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 22:42:12 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofbexarremovethis@yahoo.dk> wrote:
And a heretic is the same thing as a dissident.
Uhhhhh, nooooooooo. A heretic professes a total untruth against God.
No, against your concept of god. A heretic is a dissident.
Noooooooo, a heretic is one that pushes a blasphemous idea, like
denying the Holy Trinity
as revealed truth, for instance.
That is your concept of the truth. That does not make it true. It
does not give you or the Church the right to kill people.
• Thomas P. -- The Church killed c. 330k, However, God himself killed
millions with his bubonic plague, so a few hundred thousand is no big
deal.
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| User: "Wag" |
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05 Jun 2004 12:54:45 PM |
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• Thomas P. -- The Church killed c. 330k, However, God himself
killed millions with his bubonic plague, so a few hundred thousand is
no big deal.
If you subscribed to the Old Testament, you see that so-called god
allegedly ordered the extermination of all non-believers in many cases.
Even got ***** at times when the order was carried out to the extent
demanded.
What pathetic loser of a god can't do his own dirty work but has to have
men do it for him? You'd think that if he wanted "his" people to remain
"pure," he wouldn't ask them to stain their hands with the blood of their
fellow earthly residents.
--Wag--
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| User: "• R.L. Measures" |
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05 Jun 2004 08:43:21 PM |
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In article <Xns94FF6EC70C5B1Wagnofuckingspamcom@69.9.246.4>, Wag
<Wag@nofuckingspam.com> wrote:
• Thomas P. -- The Church killed c. 330k, However, God himself
killed millions with his bubonic plague, so a few hundred thousand is
no big deal.
If you subscribed to the Old Testament, you see that so-called god
allegedly ordered the extermination of all non-believers in many cases.
Even got ***** at times when the order was carried out to the extent
demanded.
What pathetic loser of a god can't do his own dirty work but has to have
men do it for him? You'd think that if he wanted "his" people to remain
"pure," he wouldn't ask them to stain their hands with the blood of their
fellow earthly residents.
• The God of the OT has way too many human traits for me.
cheers, Wag
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| User: "duke" |
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05 Jun 2004 08:21:06 AM |
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On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 10:10:10 +0200, Thomas P. <tonyofbexarremovethis@yahoo.dk> wrote:
That is your concept of the truth. That does not make it true.
it does not give you or the Church the right to kill people.
That's right. The Church never killed anyone.
duke
*****
John 6
53Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, unless
you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his
blood, you have no life in you. 54Whoever eats my
flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I
will raise him up at the last day.
*****
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| User: "Thomas P." |
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05 Jun 2004 12:47:47 PM |
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On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 08:21:06 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 10:10:10 +0200, Thomas P. <tonyofbexarremovethis@yahoo.dk> wrote:
That is your concept of the truth. That does not make it true.
it does not give you or the Church the right to kill people.
That's right. The Church never killed anyone.
Pilate washed his hands, and Hitler never killed any Jews personally.
Your lame attempt to excuse the crime is noted. At least in Pilate's
case he was, according to the story, aware that an injustice was
taking place. The Church tries to rationalize its complicity in the
crime and only makes itself look worse in the process as do you.
Thomas P.
None of the Emperor's clothes had been so successful before.
"But he has got nothing on," said a little child.
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| User: "duke" |
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06 Jun 2004 07:11:51 AM |
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On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 19:47:47 +0200, Thomas P. <tonyofbexarremovethis@yahoo.dk> wrote:
That is your concept of the truth. That does not make it true.
it does not give you or the Church the right to kill people.
That's right. The Church never killed anyone.
Pilate washed his hands, and Hitler never killed any Jews personally.
Your lame attempt to excuse the crime is noted.
Sorry, but I'm not excusing any crime. Those crimes are committed by men in the Church.
The Church is the Body of Christ, and it kills no one.
At least in Pilate's
case he was, according to the story, aware that an injustice was
taking place. The Church tries to rationalize its complicity in the
crime and only makes itself look worse in the process as do you.
Sorry, but trying to find the Church complicit is like trying to blame the trigger on the
gun rather than the finger on the trigger. The Church is led by the Holy Spirit, and the
Church is made of the people, all sinners. A person in the Church does the deed, not the
Church. The Church, founded by Christ and led by the Holy Spirit, is founded in full
truth and love.
You'll figure it out one day, tp.
duke
*****
John 6
53Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, unless
you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his
blood, you have no life in you. 54Whoever eats my
flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I
will raise him up at the last day.
*****
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| User: "Thomas P." |
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06 Jun 2004 10:51:02 PM |
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On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 07:11:51 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 19:47:47 +0200, Thomas P. <tonyofbexarremovethis@yahoo.dk> wrote:
That is your concept of the truth. That does not make it true.
it does not give you or the Church the right to kill people.
That's right. The Church never killed anyone.
Pilate washed his hands, and Hitler never killed any Jews personally.
Your lame attempt to excuse the crime is noted.
Sorry, but I'm not excusing any crime. Those crimes are committed by men in the Church.
The Church is the Body of Christ, and it kills no one.
What a convenient sense of morality you have. When the Church does
something you like, you claim it is evidence of god's guidance. When
it does something bad, it is not the Church at all.
At least in Pilate's
case he was, according to the story, aware that an injustice was
taking place. The Church tries to rationalize its complicity in the
crime and only makes itself look worse in the process as do you.
Sorry, but trying to find the Church complicit is like trying to blame the trigger on the
gun rather than the finger on the trigger. The Church is led by the Holy Spirit, and the
Church is made of the people, all sinners. A person in the Church does the deed, not the
Church. The Church, founded by Christ and led by the Holy Spirit, is founded in full
truth and love.
The Church is led by the Holy Spirit, but only when it does good.
When it does bad things, it is not being led by the Holy Spirit.
You are babbling worse than ever.
Thomas P.
None of the Emperor's clothes had been so successful before.
"But he has got nothing on," said a little child.
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05 Jun 2004 09:48:03 AM |
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On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 08:21:06 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
That's right. The Church never killed anyone.
False.
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Alan "Ferrit" Ferris
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| User: "• R.L. Measures" |
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05 Jun 2004 10:01:09 AM |
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In article <v8n3c0dokism9bsc6mdqc0n5qeb0cchmtt@4ax.com>, Alan Ferris
<alan@spamddandd.com> wrote:
On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 08:21:06 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
That's right. The Church never killed anyone.
False.
• 'Tis true. Bad men like Torquemada did it -- and they were always
under government control.
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| User: "Alan Ferris" |
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05 Jun 2004 10:21:10 AM |
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On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 08:01:09 -0700, +r@somis.org (• R.L. Measures)
wrote:
In article <v8n3c0dokism9bsc6mdqc0n5qeb0cchmtt@4ax.com>, Alan Ferris
<alan@spamddandd.com> wrote:
On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 08:21:06 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
That's right. The Church never killed anyone.
False.
• 'Tis true. Bad men like Torquemada did it -- and they were always
under government control.
If you sentence a man to death, but leave the state to actually kill
him, you are just as guilty of his death as the state.
--
Alan "Ferrit" Ferris
()'.'.'()
( (T) )
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| User: "• R.L. Measures" |
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05 Jun 2004 11:07:04 AM |
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In article <36p3c0hb6i81upnnuc65d3hotu5prt8ekg@4ax.com>, Alan Ferris
<alan@spamddandd.com> wrote:
On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 08:01:09 -0700, +r@somis.org (• R.L. Measures)
wrote:
In article <v8n3c0dokism9bsc6mdqc0n5qeb0cchmtt@4ax.com>, Alan Ferris
<alan@spamddandd.com> wrote:
On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 08:21:06 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
That's right. The Church never killed anyone.
False.
• 'Tis true. Bad men like Torquemada did it -- and they were always
under government control.
If you sentence a man to death, but leave the state to actually kill
him, you are just as guilty of his death as the state.
• good point, Alan, however "Act of Faith" celebrations were Sunday
murders in public put on by the Church. Joan of Arc was one victim.
However, the infallible Church admitted error 490 years later and made
Joan a saint -- curiously, after the Hollywood movie came out.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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05 Jun 2004 10:14:50 AM |
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On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 08:01:09 -0700, +r@somis.org (• R.L. Measures)
wrote:
In article <v8n3c0dokism9bsc6mdqc0n5qeb0cchmtt@4ax.com>, Alan Ferris
<alan@spamddandd.com> wrote:
On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 08:21:06 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
That's right. The Church never killed anyone.
False.
• 'Tis true. Bad men like Torquemada did it -- and they were always
under government control.
Which meant church control.
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| User: "• R.L. Measures" |
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05 Jun 2004 10:56:51 AM |
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In article <jro3c0hg6duj9g71rdic4e29isgvv4vesi@4ax.com>, Christopher A.
Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 08:01:09 -0700, +r@somis.org (• R.L. Measures)
wrote:
In article <v8n3c0dokism9bsc6mdqc0n5qeb0cchmtt@4ax.com>, Alan Ferris
<alan@spamddandd.com> wrote:
On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 08:21:06 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
That's right. The Church never killed anyone.
False.
• 'Tis true. Bad men like Torquemada did it -- and they were always
under government control.
Which meant church control.
• But of course.
- "The church became the gilded crutch of absolutism."
- historian John Acton
The Inquisition of 1487 - 1830 is like unto a great millstone around the
org's bloody neck.
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| User: "duke" |
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06 Jun 2004 07:06:02 AM |
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On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 15:48:03 +0100, Alan Ferris <alan@spamddandd.com> wrote:
On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 08:21:06 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
That's right. The Church never killed anyone.
False.
Go play with your rubber duckies, stinky.
duke
*****
John 6
53Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, unless
you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his
blood, you have no life in you. 54Whoever eats my
flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I
will raise him up at the last day.
*****
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| User: "Thomas P." |
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06 Jun 2004 10:51:01 PM |
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On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 07:06:02 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 15:48:03 +0100, Alan Ferris <alan@spamddandd.com> wrote:
On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 08:21:06 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
That's right. The Church never killed anyone.
False.
Go play with your rubber duckies, stinky.
It was rude of him to disturb you with facts from the real world.
Thomas P.
None of the Emperor's clothes had been so successful before.
"But he has got nothing on," said a little child.
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| User: "Budikka" |
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02 Jun 2004 09:42:51 PM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message news:<sbmsb0lvfl7850b4e7035d493dm3p5taco@4ax.com>...
[Another clueless, thoughtless, mindless response from the biggest
idiot on the Internet deleted]
Still waiting on your evidence that there was a Jesus. Or a god.
Oh yeah, and your responses to four different threads you ran away
from:
http://tinyurl.com/yw3tz
http://tinyurl.com/3xo82
http://tinyurl.com/yq6a8
http://tinyurl.com/2qmyz
Oh yeah, and your answers to 45 questions you ran away from:
http://tinyurl.com/2d89j
Oh yeah, and your response to the flood debate challenge you ran away
from.
http://tinyurl.com/3cw9t
Budikka
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| User: "duke" |
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03 Jun 2004 04:35:14 AM |
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On 2 Jun 2004 19:42:51 -0700, (Budikka) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message news:<sbmsb0lvfl7850b4e7035d493dm3p5taco@4ax.com>...
[Another clueless, thoughtless, mindless response from the biggest
idiot on the Internet deleted]
Yet I'm the one that offers the evidence, bud, not you.
Still waiting on your evidence that there was a Jesus. Or a god.
You got it. Still waiting for our evidence that there is no God.
Oh yeah, and your responses to four different threads you ran away
http://tinyurl.com/yw3tz
http://tinyurl.com/3xo82
http://tinyurl.com/yq6a8
http://tinyurl.com/2qmyz
Well, the first two said nothing.
Oh yeah, and your answers to 45 questions you ran away from:
http://tinyurl.com/2d89j
The ones that showed intelligence were answered.
Oh yeah, and your response to the flood debate challenge you ran away
from.
http://tinyurl.com/3cw9t
Budikka
bud, I've been over these time and time again. You atheists get your silly questions from
the same book.
duke
*****
John 6
53Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, unless
you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his
blood, you have no life in you. 54Whoever eats my
flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I
will raise him up at the last day.
*****
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| User: "Thomas P." |
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03 Jun 2004 02:30:08 PM |
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On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 04:35:14 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On 2 Jun 2004 19:42:51 -0700, (Budikka) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message news:<sbmsb0lvfl7850b4e7035d493dm3p5taco@4ax.com>...
[Another clueless, thoughtless, mindless response from the biggest
idiot on the Internet deleted]
Yet I'm the one that offers the evidence, bud, not you.
It is amazing that Duke is still making that silly claim. I think he
really believes it.
Thomas P.
None of the Emperor's clothes had been so successful before.
"But he has got nothing on," said a little child.
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| User: "duke" |
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04 Jun 2004 04:53:29 AM |
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On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 21:30:08 +0200, Thomas P. <tonyofbexarremovethis@yahoo.dk> wrote:
Yet I'm the one that offers the evidence, bud, not you.
It is amazing that Duke is still making that silly claim. I think he
really believes it.
Why would I stray from the truth?
duke
*****
John 6
53Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, unless
you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his
blood, you have no life in you. 54Whoever eats my
flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I
will raise him up at the last day.
*****
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| User: "Thomas P." |
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04 Jun 2004 03:42:10 PM |
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On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 04:53:29 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 21:30:08 +0200, Thomas P. <tonyofbexarremovethis@yahoo.dk> wrote:
Yet I'm the one that offers the evidence, bud, not you.
It is amazing that Duke is still making that silly claim. I think he
really believes it.
Why would I stray from the truth?
I don't know. Why do you do it? As I said, it is possible that you
really believe the nonsense you claim about evidence.
Thomas P.
None of the Emperor's clothes had been so successful before.
"But he has got nothing on," said a little child.
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| User: "duke" |
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04 Jun 2004 05:34:43 PM |
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On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 22:42:10 +0200, Thomas P. <tonyofbexarremovethis@yahoo.dk> wrote:
Yet I'm the one that offers the evidence, bud, not you.
It is amazing that Duke is still making that silly claim. I think he
really believes it.
Why would I stray from the truth?
I don't know. Why do you do it?
I don't. I only tell the truth.
As I said, it is possible that you
really believe the nonsense you claim about evidence.
Of course I do. It's factual.
duke
*****
John 6
53Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, unless
you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his
blood, you have no life in you. 54Whoever eats my
flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I
will raise him up at the last day.
*****
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| User: "Thomas P." |
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05 Jun 2004 03:10:09 AM |
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On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 17:34:43 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 22:42:10 +0200, Thomas P. <tonyofbexarremovethis@yahoo.dk> wrote:
Yet I'm the one that offers the evidence, bud, not you.
It is amazing that Duke is still making that silly claim. I think he
really believes it.
Why would I stray from the truth?
I don't know. Why do you do it?
I don't. I only tell the truth.
As I said, it is possible that you
really believe the nonsense you claim about evidence.
Of course I do. It's factual.
Guffaw!
Thomas P.
None of the Emperor's clothes had been so successful before.
"But he has got nothing on," said a little child.
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05 Jun 2004 08:16:36 AM |
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On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 10:10:09 +0200, Thomas P. <tonyofbexarremovethis@yahoo.dk> wrote:
As I said, it is possible that you
really believe the nonsense you claim about evidence.
Of course I do. It's factual.
Guffaw!
Now that's what I call a nonresponse.
duke
*****
John 6
53Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, unless
you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his
blood, you have no life in you. 54Whoever eats my
flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I
will raise him up at the last day.
*****
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| Title: Re: The Inquisition |
05 Jun 2004 12:47:46 PM |
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On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 08:16:36 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 10:10:09 +0200, Thomas P. <tonyofbexarremovethis@yahoo.dk> wrote:
As I said, it is possible that you
really believe the nonsense you claim about evidence.
Of course I do. It's factual.
Guffaw!
Now that's what I call a nonresponse.
You would be wrong, but you usually are.
Thomas P.
None of the Emperor's clothes had been so successful before.
"But he has got nothing on," said a little child.
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| User: "duke" |
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06 Jun 2004 07:05:17 AM |
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On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 19:47:46 +0200, Thomas P. <tonyofbexarremovethis@yahoo.dk> wrote:
On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 08:16:36 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 10:10:09 +0200, Thomas P. <tonyofbexarremovethis@yahoo.dk> wrote:
As I said, it is possible that you
really believe the nonsense you claim about evidence.
Of course I do. It's factual.
Guffaw!
Now that's what I call a nonresponse.
You would be wrong, but you usually are.
Sorry, but I'm usually right on, and I support it with factual evidence. As usual, you
say silly things like that, and then pretend you know what you're saying - especially when
you offer nothing to show you right and me wrong.
duke
*****
John 6
53Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, unless
you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his
blood, you have no life in you. 54Whoever eats my
flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I
will raise him up at the last day.
*****
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| User: "Thomas P." |
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| Title: Re: The Inquisition |
06 Jun 2004 10:51:01 PM |
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On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 07:05:17 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 19:47:46 +0200, Thomas P. <tonyofbexarremovethis@yahoo.dk> wrote:
On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 08:16:36 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 10:10:09 +0200, Thomas P. <tonyofbexarremovethis@yahoo.dk> wrote:
As I said, it is possible that you
really believe the nonsense you claim about evidence.
Of course I do. It's factual.
Guffaw!
Now that's what I call a nonresponse.
You would be wrong, but you usually are.
Sorry, but I'm usually right on, and I support it with factual evidence.
That would be the factual evidence nobody has seen. You are babbling
again.
As usual, you
say silly things like that, and then pretend you know what you're saying - especially when
you offer nothing to show you right and me wrong.
Sorry boobie but you do not get to judge. Even the Church would agree
with me on some of the points discussed here.
Thomas P.
None of the Emperor's clothes had been so successful before.
"But he has got nothing on," said a little child.
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| User: "duke" |
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07 Jun 2004 05:36:39 PM |
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On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 05:51:01 +0200, Thomas P. <tonyofbexarremovethis@yahoo.dk> wrote:
Sorry, but I'm usually right on, and I support it with factual evidence.
That would be the factual evidence nobody has seen. You are babbling
again.
Everybody's seen it, including you.
As usual, you
say silly things like that, and then pretend you know what you're saying - especially when
you offer nothing to show you right and me wrong.
Sorry boobie but you do not get to judge. Even the Church would agree
with me on some of the points discussed here.
Only if you're agreeing with me. You don't know anything about the Church as you clearly
reflect.
duke
*****
I have much more to tell you, but you cannot bear
it now. When he comes, the Holy Spirit will declare
to you the things that are coming. John 16:12-15.
*****
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: The Inquisition |
07 Jun 2004 06:31:49 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:bcr9c05elrum3ips07b4rtg5qald1dqg75@4ax.com...
On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 05:51:01 +0200, Thomas P.
<tonyofbexarremovethis@yahoo.dk> wrote:
Sorry, but I'm usually right on, and I support it with factual evidence.
That would be the factual evidence nobody has seen. You are babbling
again.
Everybody's seen it, including you.
As usual, you
say silly things like that, and then pretend you know what you're
saying - especially when
you offer nothing to show you right and me wrong.
Sorry boobie but you do not get to judge. Even the Church would agree
with me on some of the points discussed here.
Only if you're agreeing with me. You don't know anything about the
Church as you clearly
reflect.
Earl refuses to do anything except post one liners.
This one is amusing as his ideas about the RCC might have gotten him burned
back when the church that can do "no wrong" was burning people.
Once he makes a statement he will deny being wrong even when his catechism
is directly quoted.
I say might have since he is afraid to bring his priest in on the
discussions so in the good old days he would never have spoken openly of his
heresy.
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| User: "Budikka" |
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| Title: Re: The Inquisition |
10 Jun 2004 06:38:14 PM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message news:<bcr9c05elrum3ips07b4rtg5qald1dqg75@4ax.com>...
On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 05:51:01 +0200, Thomas P. <tonyofbexarremovethis@yahoo.dk> wrote:
Sorry, but I'm usually right on, and I support it with factual evidence.
That would be the factual evidence nobody has seen. You are babbling
again.
Everybody's seen it, including you.
The only thing we've seen is absolutely convincing proof that you're
incompetent and stupid. Case closed.
Budikka
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