"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote:
:|
:|<Laff@Pajamaloon> wrote in message
:|news:4alq41p69qesbss4vagot4eog6hf1pp9uq@4ax.com...
:|> On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 08:55:05 -0800, "Jeff Strickland"
:|> <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote:
:|>
:|> >An elective class would not necessarily be a bad thing.
:|>
:|> Government cannot promote religion
:|>
:|> Schools are "government"
:|>
:|> It's a disguise for "promoting"
:|>
:|
:|
:|It appears that you have not read the original post.
Nor have you apparently. But that is par for the course with you.
:|
:|The topic - this is a remedial class for the comprehension challenged - is
:|that a school district is exploring the idea of offering an ELECTIVE class
:|that will discuss the influence of religion on various areas of human
:|culture. The class isn't on religion per se but on the influence it has had
:|throughout human history. There is no plan to equip the classroom with a
:|Bible and have the kids pray for 50 minutes each day. The idea is to explore
:|tradition and culture, and how these things have been influenced by various
:|religions throughout the ages.
Where did you get the above information?
Here is the original post
From: "Maverick" <justgopub...@nomail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.usa.constitution
Subject: The marriage of church and state.
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:35:32 GMT
ODESSA, Texas, March 30 (UPI) -- A West Texas school
district is considering a Bible-based class as an elective in high
school.
A presentation on the proposed class received a standing
ovation Tuesday at the Ector County school board meeting, the Odessa
American reported.
Board President Randy Rives said the board would study the
proposal, but the decision may not be made anytime soon.
"It would be beneath us to not ever address this again," he
said. "But, we want to take our time and ask some questions."
The board heard a presentation by Mike Johnson who
represents the National Council on Bible Curriculum in Public
Schools. He said the course designed by his group is not about
proselytizing or preaching.
"Our course is done in a very objective fashion," he said.
"We understand that you can teach the students, but not preach to
them."
Johnson said the course would include the Bible's impact on
America's founding fathers, the geography of Middle Eastern
countries and the influence of the Bible in art and culture.
There is no mention of the following in it
:|
:|The topic - this is a remedial class for the comprehension challenged - is
:|that a school district is exploring the idea of offering an ELECTIVE class
:|that will discuss the influence of religion on various areas of human
:|culture. The class isn't on religion per se but on the influence it has had
:|throughout human history. There is no plan to equip the classroom with a
:|Bible and have the kids pray for 50 minutes each day. The idea is to explore
:|tradition and culture, and how these things have been influenced by various
:|religions throughout the ages.
Where did you come up with it being a remedial class?
In doing a search on the net I only found the following
(1)
http://www.washtimes.com/upi-breaking/20050330-121129-2624r.htm
(2)
http://pub50.bravenet.com/news/4289455392/31916/1
Texas school district weighs Bible class
ODESSA, Texas, March 30 (UPI) --
A West Texas school district is considering a Bible-based class as an
elective in high school.
A presentation on the proposed class received a standing ovation Tuesday at
the Ector County school board meeting, the Odessa American reported.
Board President Randy Rives said the board would study the proposal, but
the decision may not be made anytime soon.
It would be beneath us to not ever address this again, he said. But, we
want to take our time and ask some questions.
The board heard a presentation by Mike Johnson who represents the National
Council on Bible Curriculum in Public Schools. He said the course designed
by his group is not about proselytizing or preaching.
Our course is done in a very objective fashion, he said. We understand that
you can teach the students, but not preach to them.
Johnson said the course would include the Bible's impact on America's
founding fathers, the geography of Middle Eastern countries and the
influence of the Bible in art and culture.
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No mention there about it being a remedial class .
BTW, has the Bible ever been qualified as a remedial reading. reading
comprehension textbook?
:|
:|If there were such a class, and it explored several of the world's major
:|religions, then a student might have a better understanding of the world and
:|the people around him. I am hard pressed to find the downside in such a
:|plan.
You have always been hard pressed to find anything wrong with anything the
religious right wants, probably because you support everything they want.
The person your replied to said it was a disguise for "promoting" which is
exactly what it is.
You accused him of not reading the original post and preceded to make some
pretty outlandish comments, which are not part of the original post and
which you didn't bother to document or cite.
Are you back to making it up as you go again, jeffy?
You have been caught doing that many times in the past, ya know.
:| I happen to agree with you in so far as there is a potential for
:|abuse, but if the school goes into this specifically seeking to avoid said
:|abuses then it should be able to pull the idea off successfully. If we watch
:|for the abuses to occur, and challenge them at that time, we might find that
:|the abuses never occur and the education a child gets will be well worth the
:|risk.
Yea right, and who is going to be doing this watching? Who are they going
to report abuse to? Who is behind this? What organization is pushing for
these classes, who sponsors them or provides the course outline, etc?
Do you even know?
:|Or, we could run around screaming, "the sky is falling."
Oh, there is evidence of those things you like to label as the sky is
falling, you are just too much in agreement with what is happening to see
what really is happening.
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