On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 06:51:25 -0800 (PST), Muslim With Mission





<muslim.with.miss...@gmail.com> wrote:

The Story of Creation

There are several places where the Qur'an describes aspects of the
creation.

The Bible describes the creation as having taken place in six days
followed by a day of rest. In the Bible a 'day' is explicitly the
interval between two successive sunrises or sunsets. There can be no
question that this story is wrong. The very mechanism of the Earth
rotating around its axis was not fixed in the earliest stages of
creation as were described in the Bible.

In contrast to this the Qur'an while also describing creation as
taking place in 6 'days' never connects this word with a set period.
In fact, in the Qur'an a day in the sight of Allah (in this instance
judgement day) is described as 50,000 human years. (Surah 70: Verse 4)
The use of the word yawm in Arabic can equally well 'mean period of
time' as it can mean 'day'.

A significant passage of the Qur'an is Surah 41, Verses 9 to 12:

(Muhammad Asad translation)

"Say: Would you indeed deny Him who has created the earth in two
aeons? And do you claim that there is any power that could rival Him,
The Sustainer of all the worlds?"

For He [it is who after creating the earth,] placed firm Mountains on
it [towering] above its surface, and bestowed [so many] blessings on
it, and equitably apportioned its means of subsistence to all who
would seek it: [and all this He created] in four aeons.

And He [it is who] applied His design to the skies, which were [yet
but] smoke; and He [it is who] said to them and to the earth, "come
willingly or unwillingly!" - to which both responded, We do come in
obedience."

To me this is obviously a reference to the fact that we are in the
second cycle of solar evolution. The earth is made up of material that
resulted from the first life cycle of a sun and our sun is a 'second
generation' sun- two periods. The last of the verses quoted above
confirms this point by referring to the what the sky and earth was
made from - smoke. A simple but absolutely accurate description of the
remains of the burnt out first generation sun!

"Smoke" is an accurate description of the residue of a supernova? Are
you kidding, or are you just *really* fucking stupid?

On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 06:51:25 -0800 (PST), Muslim With Mission
<muslim.with.mission@gmail.com> wrote:

The Story of Creation

There are several places where the Qur'an describes aspects of the
creation.

The Bible describes the creation as having taken place in six days
followed by a day of rest. In the Bible a 'day' is explicitly the
interval between two successive sunrises or sunsets. There can be no
question that this story is wrong. The very mechanism of the Earth
rotating around its axis was not fixed in the earliest stages of
creation as were described in the Bible.

In contrast to this the Qur'an while also describing creation as taking
place in 6 'days' never connects this word with a set period. In fact,
in the Qur'an a day in the sight of Allah (in this instance judgement
day) is described as 50,000 human years. (Surah 70: Verse 4) The use of
the word yawm in Arabic can equally well 'mean period of time' as it can
mean 'day'.

A significant passage of the Qur'an is Surah 41, Verses 9 to 12:

(Muhammad Asad translation)

"Say: Would you indeed deny Him who has created the earth in two aeons?
And do you claim that there is any power that could rival Him, The
Sustainer of all the worlds?"

For He [it is who after creating the earth,] placed firm Mountains on it
[towering] above its surface, and bestowed [so many] blessings on it,
and equitably apportioned its means of subsistence to all who would seek
it: [and all this He created] in four aeons.

And He [it is who] applied His design to the skies, which were [yet but]
smoke; and He [it is who] said to them and to the earth, "come willingly
or unwillingly!" - to which both responded, We do come in obedience."

To me this is obviously a reference to the fact that we are in the
second cycle of solar evolution. The earth is made up of material that
resulted from the first life cycle of a sun and our sun is a 'second
generation' sun- two periods. The last of the verses quoted above
confirms this point by referring to the what the sky and earth was made
from - smoke. A simple but absolutely accurate description of the
remains of the burnt out first generation sun!

"Smoke" is an accurate description of the residue of a supernova? Are
you kidding, or are you just *really* fucking stupid? ---