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Religions > Atheism |
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"Carol Lee Smith" |
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14 Aug 2003 02:54:35 AM |
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Re: Theocracy in America |
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Alberto Moreira wrote:
Said Carol Lee Smith <human@csd.uwm.edu> :
Do you really think a person's religion should be a test for office?
An elected official is a REPRESENTATIVE. If the majority is religious
and that elected official ain't, how can he or she be a representative
? So, there's no such a thing as "should" here - the world is what the
world is, we will choose people to represent us who are close enough
to us, to our values, to our ideology, to our morals, and to our
religion.
How do you explain Kennedy's election?
How do you explain Clinton's election?
Were they close in values and morals to everyone who voted for them?
That's the way the world works. The will of the people WILL ultimately
be the rule, or else we have oppression. Of the people, for the
people, by the people. Simple enough, eh ?
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| User: "Dr. Zarkov" |
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| Title: Re: Theocracy in America |
14 Aug 2003 11:42:23 AM |
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"Carol Lee Smith" <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.OSF.3.96.1030814025201.19430D-100000@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu...
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Alberto Moreira wrote:
Said Carol Lee Smith <human@csd.uwm.edu> :
Do you really think a person's religion should be a test for office?
An elected official is a REPRESENTATIVE. If the majority is religious
and that elected official ain't, how can he or she be a representative
? So, there's no such a thing as "should" here - the world is what the
world is, we will choose people to represent us who are close enough
to us, to our values, to our ideology, to our morals, and to our
religion.
How do you explain Kennedy's election?
How do you explain Clinton's election?
Were they close in values and morals to everyone who voted for them?
That's the way the world works. The will of the people WILL ultimately
be the rule, or else we have oppression. Of the people, for the
people, by the people. Simple enough, eh ?
I wonder if Jews, dissidents, and Gypsies in Nazi Germany felt that the will
of the people prevented oppression. Or if the slaves in America did.
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| User: "SReeseMe" |
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| Title: Re: Theocracy in America |
15 Aug 2003 06:58:27 AM |
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Do you really think a person's religion should be a test for office?
No that would be unconstitutional. See Article VI, paragraph 3 of the US
Constitution.
An elected official is a REPRESENTATIVE. If the majority is religious
and that elected official ain't, how can he or she be a representative
? So, there's no such a thing as "should" here - the world is what the
world is, we will choose people to represent us who are close enough
to us, to our values, to our ideology, to our morals, and to our
religion.
What part of: "...but no religious Test shall ever be required as a
Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States." don't
you understand?
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| User: "Beowulf" |
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| Title: Re: Theocracy in America |
22 Aug 2003 10:30:06 AM |
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On 15 Aug 2003 11:58:27 GMT, (SReeseMe) ejaculated:
Do you really think a person's religion should be a test for office?
No that would be unconstitutional. See Article VI, paragraph 3 of the US
Constitution.
An elected official is a REPRESENTATIVE. If the majority is religious
and that elected official ain't, how can he or she be a representative
? So, there's no such a thing as "should" here - the world is what the
world is, we will choose people to represent us who are close enough
to us, to our values, to our ideology, to our morals, and to our
religion.
What part of: "...but no religious Test shall ever be required as a
Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States." don't
you understand?
The OP is probably having difficulty understanding why anyone would
want to have an objective fair representative in government. How are
you going to ram your insane ideology down the throats of minorities
if your representative isn't as bigoted and shallow-minded as you are?
--
"Of all the systems of religion that ever were invented, there is no
more derogatory to the Almighty, more unedifiying to man, more repugnant
to reason, and more contradictory to itself than this thing called
Christianity."
--Thomas Paine (The Age of Reason)
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