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Religions > Atheism |
| User: |
"Denis Loubet" |
| Date: |
16 Aug 2003 12:55:01 AM |
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Re: They love to say I am insane and call me a nut case. |
"LionOfJudah" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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There is a saying, the truth is stranger than fiction.
But perhaps not the way you think it is.
So when I know the truth and I tell them the truth, which really is
stranger
than fiction, they who consider themselves to be "normal", when in fact
they
are completely brainwashed into believing that a God is most Holy who is
jealous and hateful and who commands his prophets to murder even children
by
the edge of a sword and who also praises the son of his high priest for
thrusting a javelin through the belly of both a woman and a man who no
longer wanted to worship him, they start saying I'm insane because I
reasoned with them that such a Spirit which also speaks from the midst of
thick darkness isn't Holy, and then they call me a nutcase.
We'll be happy to call you a nutcase for fresh new reasons.
Someone else posted in a message in the guise of "wanting to learn", but
then resorted back to the very same game of pretentiousness and name
calling.
Well, if you're talking to christians, you have to expect that.
Well I realize that there are indeed newcomers who may be walking into the
middle of a brawl and not in posession of the facts of what transpired
before witnessing what they are. So for the benefit of this person, I am
going to show them where it all started, with this post.
You're going to try to convince atheists that you're right with BIBLE
QUOTES?
You might want to consider doing a little basic research on your audience.
And once more, in the spirit of Krishnamurti, I will repeat his words :
This is not starting out well...
"Rather than listen to me as if I'm trying to convince you of something,
give your attention with the understanding that I am merely pointing
certain
things for you to examine."
"Things for us to examine." This should be interesting.
Contrary to what others have implied, I did not invent any of these
atrocities which the God of Moses and the prophets committed, who the
present day Jews and Judaeo-Christians, as well as Muslims, all were
taught
to believe in from since they were children as they were unable to think
for
themselves and looked to their parents for guidance, who in turn were
taught
the same by their parents, and so on.
No, a bunch of bronze-age shysters invented it.
So here are comparisons between the Old Testament and New Testament
scriptures which prove beyond a doubt that Christ did not serve the OT
God,
then it analyses more closely the NT to show who the real Father of Christ
is, and who the God of the OT really is.
And here you lose the atheists. We give no more credence to the NT than we
do to the OT. They're both nonsense. There's no evidence that this christ of
yours even existed.
You are not presenting us with "things to examine", you're presenting us
with unsupported claims.
(snip fucking REAMS of bible crap)
Your idiotic scripture is not welcome here in alt atheism.
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "LionOfJudah" |
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| Title: Re: They love to say I am insane and call me a nut case. |
16 Aug 2003 11:06:35 AM |
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
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"LionOfJudah" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:41j%a.2035$sA4.300@fe02.atl2.webusenet.com...
There is a saying, the truth is stranger than fiction.
But perhaps not the way you think it is.
So when I know the truth and I tell them the truth, which really is
stranger
than fiction, they who consider themselves to be "normal", when in fact
they
are completely brainwashed into believing that a God is most Holy who is
jealous and hateful and who commands his prophets to murder even
children
by
the edge of a sword and who also praises the son of his high priest for
thrusting a javelin through the belly of both a woman and a man who no
longer wanted to worship him, they start saying I'm insane because I
reasoned with them that such a Spirit which also speaks from the midst
of
thick darkness isn't Holy, and then they call me a nutcase.
We'll be happy to call you a nutcase for fresh new reasons.
Someone else posted in a message in the guise of "wanting to learn", but
then resorted back to the very same game of pretentiousness and name
calling.
Well, if you're talking to christians, you have to expect that.
Well I realize that there are indeed newcomers who may be walking into
the
middle of a brawl and not in posession of the facts of what transpired
before witnessing what they are. So for the benefit of this person, I am
going to show them where it all started, with this post.
You're going to try to convince atheists that you're right with BIBLE
QUOTES?
You might want to consider doing a little basic research on your audience.
And once more, in the spirit of Krishnamurti, I will repeat his words :
This is not starting out well...
"Rather than listen to me as if I'm trying to convince you of something,
give your attention with the understanding that I am merely pointing
certain
things for you to examine."
"Things for us to examine." This should be interesting.
Contrary to what others have implied, I did not invent any of these
atrocities which the God of Moses and the prophets committed, who the
present day Jews and Judaeo-Christians, as well as Muslims, all were
taught
to believe in from since they were children as they were unable to think
for
themselves and looked to their parents for guidance, who in turn were
taught
the same by their parents, and so on.
No, a bunch of bronze-age shysters invented it.
So here are comparisons between the Old Testament and New Testament
scriptures which prove beyond a doubt that Christ did not serve the OT
God,
then it analyses more closely the NT to show who the real Father of
Christ
is, and who the God of the OT really is.
And here you lose the atheists. We give no more credence to the NT than we
do to the OT. They're both nonsense. There's no evidence that this christ
of
yours even existed.
You are not presenting us with "things to examine", you're presenting us
with unsupported claims.
(snip fucking REAMS of bible crap)
Your idiotic scripture is not welcome here in alt atheism.
Another coward!
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
.
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| User: "Daniel Kolle" |
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| Title: Re: They love to say I am insane and call me a nut case. |
16 Aug 2003 09:51:22 PM |
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> thought hard and said:
Coward?
Here's a question: If you could go back in time and successfully rescue
Jesus from the crucifixion, would you do it?
Why would they want to do that?
--
-Kolle; 15 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, and Gustav Mahler are my Gods.
Madly Insane EAC Scientist.
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| User: "LionOfJudah" |
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| Title: Re: They love to say I am insane and call me a nut case. |
16 Aug 2003 11:39:56 AM |
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
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"LionOfJudah" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
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"LionOfJudah" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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There is a saying, the truth is stranger than fiction.
But perhaps not the way you think it is.
So when I know the truth and I tell them the truth, which really is
stranger
than fiction, they who consider themselves to be "normal", when in
fact
they
are completely brainwashed into believing that a God is most Holy
who
is
jealous and hateful and who commands his prophets to murder even
children
by
the edge of a sword and who also praises the son of his high priest
for
thrusting a javelin through the belly of both a woman and a man who
no
longer wanted to worship him, they start saying I'm insane because I
reasoned with them that such a Spirit which also speaks from the
midst
of
thick darkness isn't Holy, and then they call me a nutcase.
We'll be happy to call you a nutcase for fresh new reasons.
Someone else posted in a message in the guise of "wanting to learn",
but
then resorted back to the very same game of pretentiousness and name
calling.
Well, if you're talking to christians, you have to expect that.
Well I realize that there are indeed newcomers who may be walking
into
the
middle of a brawl and not in posession of the facts of what
transpired
before witnessing what they are. So for the benefit of this person,
I
am
going to show them where it all started, with this post.
You're going to try to convince atheists that you're right with BIBLE
QUOTES?
You might want to consider doing a little basic research on your
audience.
And once more, in the spirit of Krishnamurti, I will repeat his
words
:
This is not starting out well...
"Rather than listen to me as if I'm trying to convince you of
something,
give your attention with the understanding that I am merely pointing
certain
things for you to examine."
"Things for us to examine." This should be interesting.
Contrary to what others have implied, I did not invent any of these
atrocities which the God of Moses and the prophets committed, who
the
present day Jews and Judaeo-Christians, as well as Muslims, all were
taught
to believe in from since they were children as they were unable to
think
for
themselves and looked to their parents for guidance, who in turn
were
taught
the same by their parents, and so on.
No, a bunch of bronze-age shysters invented it.
So here are comparisons between the Old Testament and New Testament
scriptures which prove beyond a doubt that Christ did not serve the
OT
God,
then it analyses more closely the NT to show who the real Father of
Christ
is, and who the God of the OT really is.
And here you lose the atheists. We give no more credence to the NT
than
we
do to the OT. They're both nonsense. There's no evidence that this
christ
of
yours even existed.
You are not presenting us with "things to examine", you're presenting
us
with unsupported claims.
(snip fucking REAMS of bible crap)
Your idiotic scripture is not welcome here in alt atheism.
Another coward!
Coward?
Here's a question: If you could go back in time and successfully rescue
Jesus from the crucifixion, would you do it?
He could have saved himself from the crucifixion, but chose instead to carry
out his Father's will and to suffer at the hands of sinners, and to enter
thereafter into the glory of his Father.
Luke:24:26: Ought not Christ to have *suffered these things*, and *to enter
into his glory*?
John:7:37: In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and
cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.
38: He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly
shall flow rivers of living water.
39: (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should
receive: for the Holy Ghost was *not yet given*; because that Jesus *was not
yet glorified*.)
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
.
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| User: "LionOfJudah" |
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| Title: Re: They love to say I am insane and call me a nut case. |
16 Aug 2003 03:37:15 PM |
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
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"LionOfJudah" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
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"LionOfJudah" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
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"LionOfJudah" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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There is a saying, the truth is stranger than fiction.
But perhaps not the way you think it is.
So when I know the truth and I tell them the truth, which really
is
stranger
than fiction, they who consider themselves to be "normal", when
in
fact
they
are completely brainwashed into believing that a God is most
Holy
who
is
jealous and hateful and who commands his prophets to murder even
children
by
the edge of a sword and who also praises the son of his high
priest
for
thrusting a javelin through the belly of both a woman and a man
who
no
longer wanted to worship him, they start saying I'm insane
because
I
reasoned with them that such a Spirit which also speaks from the
midst
of
thick darkness isn't Holy, and then they call me a nutcase.
We'll be happy to call you a nutcase for fresh new reasons.
Someone else posted in a message in the guise of "wanting to
learn",
but
then resorted back to the very same game of pretentiousness and
name
calling.
Well, if you're talking to christians, you have to expect that.
Well I realize that there are indeed newcomers who may be
walking
into
the
middle of a brawl and not in posession of the facts of what
transpired
before witnessing what they are. So for the benefit of this
person,
I
am
going to show them where it all started, with this post.
You're going to try to convince atheists that you're right with
BIBLE
QUOTES?
You might want to consider doing a little basic research on your
audience.
And once more, in the spirit of Krishnamurti, I will repeat his
words
:
This is not starting out well...
"Rather than listen to me as if I'm trying to convince you of
something,
give your attention with the understanding that I am merely
pointing
certain
things for you to examine."
"Things for us to examine." This should be interesting.
Contrary to what others have implied, I did not invent any of
these
atrocities which the God of Moses and the prophets committed,
who
the
present day Jews and Judaeo-Christians, as well as Muslims, all
were
taught
to believe in from since they were children as they were unable
to
think
for
themselves and looked to their parents for guidance, who in turn
were
taught
the same by their parents, and so on.
No, a bunch of bronze-age shysters invented it.
So here are comparisons between the Old Testament and New
Testament
scriptures which prove beyond a doubt that Christ did not serve
the
OT
God,
then it analyses more closely the NT to show who the real Father
of
Christ
is, and who the God of the OT really is.
And here you lose the atheists. We give no more credence to the NT
than
we
do to the OT. They're both nonsense. There's no evidence that this
christ
of
yours even existed.
You are not presenting us with "things to examine", you're
presenting
us
with unsupported claims.
(snip fucking REAMS of bible crap)
Your idiotic scripture is not welcome here in alt atheism.
Another coward!
Coward?
Here's a question: If you could go back in time and successfully
rescue
Jesus from the crucifixion, would you do it?
He could have saved himself from the crucifixion, but chose instead to
carry
out his Father's will and to suffer at the hands of sinners, and to
enter
thereafter into the glory of his Father.
Luke:24:26: Ought not Christ to have *suffered these things*, and *to
enter
into his glory*?
John:7:37: In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and
cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.
38: He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his
belly
shall flow rivers of living water.
39: (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him
should
receive: for the Holy Ghost was *not yet given*; because that Jesus *was
not
yet glorified*.)
I'll take that as a no.
Fine, so you wouldn't lift a finger to save the one you claim to love the
most from torture and death simply because you selfishly stand to gain
eternal life in heaven rather than the eternal suffering in hell that your
own god has judged you deserve for your sins.
And you call ME a coward?
I'm not the one glorying in the death of an innocent person for my own
personal gain, you are.
I'm not the one hiding behind the skirts the Jesus character to avoid the
punishments that the god character has decreed that I deserve, you are.
Me? I'd rescue the poor ***** without hesitation, even if I believed I'd
lose my Get Out of Hell Free card.
But that's because I have integrity, and you don't.
Yes, you have so much integrity that you are willing to ***** up the Father's
plan in some vain quest of heroism and glory while at the same time
destroying the chance for *millions* who would receive the gift of the
Father's Spirit without your interference. Now if the benefit of Christ
entering into his glory was only to you, then by all means you could spare
Christ his suffering. But the benfit was to millions, not just you. So you
are quite selfish to try to ***** up a plan that was to benefit millions, not
just you alone. It was the Son's choice to suffer at the hands of sinners.
He could have fled long before his betrayer turned him over into the hands
of sinners, but he preferred to carry out the will of his Father whose
authority he respected, because it knew that so many would be saved because
of his entering into the glory of his Father, whereby that boundless,
eternal, incorruptible Spirit is given to those who follow him.
.
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: They love to say I am insane and call me a nut case. |
17 Aug 2003 11:11:04 PM |
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"LionOfJudah" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
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"LionOfJudah" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
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"LionOfJudah" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
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"LionOfJudah" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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There is a saying, the truth is stranger than fiction.
But perhaps not the way you think it is.
So when I know the truth and I tell them the truth, which
really
is
stranger
than fiction, they who consider themselves to be "normal",
when
in
fact
they
are completely brainwashed into believing that a God is most
Holy
who
is
jealous and hateful and who commands his prophets to murder
even
children
by
the edge of a sword and who also praises the son of his high
priest
for
thrusting a javelin through the belly of both a woman and a
man
who
no
longer wanted to worship him, they start saying I'm insane
because
I
reasoned with them that such a Spirit which also speaks from
the
midst
of
thick darkness isn't Holy, and then they call me a nutcase.
We'll be happy to call you a nutcase for fresh new reasons.
Someone else posted in a message in the guise of "wanting to
learn",
but
then resorted back to the very same game of pretentiousness
and
name
calling.
Well, if you're talking to christians, you have to expect that.
Well I realize that there are indeed newcomers who may be
walking
into
the
middle of a brawl and not in posession of the facts of what
transpired
before witnessing what they are. So for the benefit of this
person,
I
am
going to show them where it all started, with this post.
You're going to try to convince atheists that you're right with
BIBLE
QUOTES?
You might want to consider doing a little basic research on your
audience.
And once more, in the spirit of Krishnamurti, I will repeat
his
words
:
This is not starting out well...
"Rather than listen to me as if I'm trying to convince you of
something,
give your attention with the understanding that I am merely
pointing
certain
things for you to examine."
"Things for us to examine." This should be interesting.
Contrary to what others have implied, I did not invent any of
these
atrocities which the God of Moses and the prophets committed,
who
the
present day Jews and Judaeo-Christians, as well as Muslims,
all
were
taught
to believe in from since they were children as they were
unable
to
think
for
themselves and looked to their parents for guidance, who in
turn
were
taught
the same by their parents, and so on.
No, a bunch of bronze-age shysters invented it.
So here are comparisons between the Old Testament and New
Testament
scriptures which prove beyond a doubt that Christ did not
serve
the
OT
God,
then it analyses more closely the NT to show who the real
Father
of
Christ
is, and who the God of the OT really is.
And here you lose the atheists. We give no more credence to the
NT
than
we
do to the OT. They're both nonsense. There's no evidence that
this
christ
of
yours even existed.
You are not presenting us with "things to examine", you're
presenting
us
with unsupported claims.
(snip fucking REAMS of bible crap)
Your idiotic scripture is not welcome here in alt atheism.
Another coward!
Coward?
Here's a question: If you could go back in time and successfully
rescue
Jesus from the crucifixion, would you do it?
He could have saved himself from the crucifixion, but chose instead to
carry
out his Father's will and to suffer at the hands of sinners, and to
enter
thereafter into the glory of his Father.
Luke:24:26: Ought not Christ to have *suffered these things*, and *to
enter
into his glory*?
John:7:37: In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood
and
cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.
38: He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his
belly
shall flow rivers of living water.
39: (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him
should
receive: for the Holy Ghost was *not yet given*; because that Jesus
*was
not
yet glorified*.)
I'll take that as a no.
Fine, so you wouldn't lift a finger to save the one you claim to love
the
most from torture and death simply because you selfishly stand to gain
eternal life in heaven rather than the eternal suffering in hell that
your
own god has judged you deserve for your sins.
And you call ME a coward?
I'm not the one glorying in the death of an innocent person for my own
personal gain, you are.
I'm not the one hiding behind the skirts the Jesus character to avoid
the
punishments that the god character has decreed that I deserve, you are.
Me? I'd rescue the poor ***** without hesitation, even if I believed
I'd
lose my Get Out of Hell Free card.
But that's because I have integrity, and you don't.
Yes, you have so much integrity that you are willing to ***** up the
Father's
plan in some vain quest of heroism and glory
So it's ok to allow the torture and death of an innocent person as long as
it's someone's plan?
Charming.
while at the same time
destroying the chance for *millions* who would receive the gift of the
Father's Spirit without your interference. Now if the benefit of Christ
entering into his glory was only to you, then by all means you could spare
Christ his suffering. But the benfit was to millions, not just you. So
you
are quite selfish to try to ***** up a plan that was to benefit millions,
not
just you alone.
I'm so relieved to know that you think it's ok to allow the torture and
death of an innocent person as long as it benefits a BUNCH of people who
think like you.
That's SO much better. Not.
It was the Son's choice to suffer at the hands of sinners.
You know, it's usually considered a moral thing to talk suicidal people out
of suicide.
Not for you, apparently.
He could have fled long before his betrayer turned him over into the hands
of sinners, but he preferred to carry out the will of his Father whose
authority he respected, because it knew that so many would be saved
because
of his entering into the glory of his Father, whereby that boundless,
eternal, incorruptible Spirit is given to those who follow him.
Saved from what? What happens if we're not saved? Who decides what happens
to us if we're not saved?
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "LionOfJudah" |
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| Title: Re: They love to say I am insane and call me a nut case. |
17 Aug 2003 11:18:40 PM |
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
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"LionOfJudah" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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There is a saying, the truth is stranger than fiction.
But perhaps not the way you think it is.
So when I know the truth and I tell them the truth, which
really
is
stranger
than fiction, they who consider themselves to be "normal",
when
in
fact
they
are completely brainwashed into believing that a God is most
Holy
who
is
jealous and hateful and who commands his prophets to murder
even
children
by
the edge of a sword and who also praises the son of his high
priest
for
thrusting a javelin through the belly of both a woman and a
man
who
no
longer wanted to worship him, they start saying I'm insane
because
I
reasoned with them that such a Spirit which also speaks from
the
midst
of
thick darkness isn't Holy, and then they call me a nutcase.
We'll be happy to call you a nutcase for fresh new reasons.
Someone else posted in a message in the guise of "wanting to
learn",
but
then resorted back to the very same game of pretentiousness
and
name
calling.
Well, if you're talking to christians, you have to expect
that.
Well I realize that there are indeed newcomers who may be
walking
into
the
middle of a brawl and not in posession of the facts of what
transpired
before witnessing what they are. So for the benefit of this
person,
I
am
going to show them where it all started, with this post.
You're going to try to convince atheists that you're right
with
BIBLE
QUOTES?
You might want to consider doing a little basic research on
your
audience.
And once more, in the spirit of Krishnamurti, I will repeat
his
words
:
This is not starting out well...
"Rather than listen to me as if I'm trying to convince you
of
something,
give your attention with the understanding that I am merely
pointing
certain
things for you to examine."
"Things for us to examine." This should be interesting.
Contrary to what others have implied, I did not invent any
of
these
atrocities which the God of Moses and the prophets
committed,
who
the
present day Jews and Judaeo-Christians, as well as Muslims,
all
were
taught
to believe in from since they were children as they were
unable
to
think
for
themselves and looked to their parents for guidance, who in
turn
were
taught
the same by their parents, and so on.
No, a bunch of bronze-age shysters invented it.
So here are comparisons between the Old Testament and New
Testament
scriptures which prove beyond a doubt that Christ did not
serve
the
OT
God,
then it analyses more closely the NT to show who the real
Father
of
Christ
is, and who the God of the OT really is.
And here you lose the atheists. We give no more credence to
the
NT
than
we
do to the OT. They're both nonsense. There's no evidence that
this
christ
of
yours even existed.
You are not presenting us with "things to examine", you're
presenting
us
with unsupported claims.
(snip fucking REAMS of bible crap)
Your idiotic scripture is not welcome here in alt atheism.
Another coward!
Coward?
Here's a question: If you could go back in time and successfully
rescue
Jesus from the crucifixion, would you do it?
He could have saved himself from the crucifixion, but chose instead
to
carry
out his Father's will and to suffer at the hands of sinners, and to
enter
thereafter into the glory of his Father.
Luke:24:26: Ought not Christ to have *suffered these things*, and
*to
enter
into his glory*?
John:7:37: In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood
and
cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.
38: He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his
belly
shall flow rivers of living water.
39: (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him
should
receive: for the Holy Ghost was *not yet given*; because that Jesus
*was
not
yet glorified*.)
I'll take that as a no.
Fine, so you wouldn't lift a finger to save the one you claim to love
the
most from torture and death simply because you selfishly stand to gain
eternal life in heaven rather than the eternal suffering in hell that
your
own god has judged you deserve for your sins.
And you call ME a coward?
I'm not the one glorying in the death of an innocent person for my own
personal gain, you are.
I'm not the one hiding behind the skirts the Jesus character to avoid
the
punishments that the god character has decreed that I deserve, you
are.
Me? I'd rescue the poor ***** without hesitation, even if I believed
I'd
lose my Get Out of Hell Free card.
But that's because I have integrity, and you don't.
Yes, you have so much integrity that you are willing to ***** up the
Father's
plan in some vain quest of heroism and glory
So it's ok to allow the torture and death of an innocent person as long as
it's someone's plan?
Charming.
while at the same time
destroying the chance for *millions* who would receive the gift of the
Father's Spirit without your interference. Now if the benefit of Christ
entering into his glory was only to you, then by all means you could
spare
Christ his suffering. But the benfit was to millions, not just you. So
you
are quite selfish to try to ***** up a plan that was to benefit millions,
not
just you alone.
I'm so relieved to know that you think it's ok to allow the torture and
death of an innocent person as long as it benefits a BUNCH of people who
think like you.
That's SO much better. Not.
It was the Son's choice to suffer at the hands of sinners.
You know, it's usually considered a moral thing to talk suicidal people
out
of suicide.
Not for you, apparently.
He could have fled long before his betrayer turned him over into the
hands
of sinners, but he preferred to carry out the will of his Father whose
authority he respected, because it knew that so many would be saved
because
of his entering into the glory of his Father, whereby that boundless,
eternal, incorruptible Spirit is given to those who follow him.
Saved from what?
The endless cycle of birth, illness, old age, pain, death.
What happens if we're not saved?
The cycle continues, but the really important question is, what if the cycle
continues without a physical world such as this earth, to be reborn into?
Who decides what happens
to us if we're not saved?
Not who, but what. The law of cause and effect.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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"LionOfJudah" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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"LionOfJudah" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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There is a saying, the truth is stranger than fiction.
But perhaps not the way you think it is.
So when I know the truth and I tell them the truth, which
really
is
stranger
than fiction, they who consider themselves to be "normal",
when
in
fact
they
are completely brainwashed into believing that a God is
most
Holy
who
is
jealous and hateful and who commands his prophets to
murder
even
children
by
the edge of a sword and who also praises the son of his
high
priest
for
thrusting a javelin through the belly of both a woman and
a
man
who
no
longer wanted to worship him, they start saying I'm insane
because
I
reasoned with them that such a Spirit which also speaks
from
the
midst
of
thick darkness isn't Holy, and then they call me a
nutcase.
We'll be happy to call you a nutcase for fresh new reasons.
Someone else posted in a message in the guise of "wanting
to
learn",
but
then resorted back to the very same game of
pretentiousness
and
name
calling.
Well, if you're talking to christians, you have to expect
that.
Well I realize that there are indeed newcomers who may be
walking
into
the
middle of a brawl and not in posession of the facts of
what
transpired
before witnessing what they are. So for the benefit of
this
person,
I
am
going to show them where it all started, with this post.
You're going to try to convince atheists that you're right
with
BIBLE
QUOTES?
You might want to consider doing a little basic research on
your
audience.
And once more, in the spirit of Krishnamurti, I will
repeat
his
words
:
This is not starting out well...
"Rather than listen to me as if I'm trying to convince you
of
something,
give your attention with the understanding that I am
merely
pointing
certain
things for you to examine."
"Things for us to examine." This should be interesting.
Contrary to what others have implied, I did not invent any
of
these
atrocities which the God of Moses and the prophets
committed,
who
the
present day Jews and Judaeo-Christians, as well as
Muslims,
all
were
taught
to believe in from since they were children as they were
unable
to
think
for
themselves and looked to their parents for guidance, who
in
turn
were
taught
the same by their parents, and so on.
No, a bunch of bronze-age shysters invented it.
So here are comparisons between the Old Testament and New
Testament
scriptures which prove beyond a doubt that Christ did not
serve
the
OT
God,
then it analyses more closely the NT to show who the real
Father
of
Christ
is, and who the God of the OT really is.
And here you lose the atheists. We give no more credence to
the
NT
than
we
do to the OT. They're both nonsense. There's no evidence
that
this
christ
of
yours even existed.
You are not presenting us with "things to examine", you're
presenting
us
with unsupported claims.
(snip fucking REAMS of bible crap)
Your idiotic scripture is not welcome here in alt atheism.
Another coward!
Coward?
Here's a question: If you could go back in time and successfully
rescue
Jesus from the crucifixion, would you do it?
He could have saved himself from the crucifixion, but chose
instead
to
carry
out his Father's will and to suffer at the hands of sinners, and
to
enter
thereafter into the glory of his Father.
Luke:24:26: Ought not Christ to have *suffered these things*, and
*to
enter
into his glory*?
John:7:37: In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus
stood
and
cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.
38: He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of
his
belly
shall flow rivers of living water.
39: (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on
him
should
receive: for the Holy Ghost was *not yet given*; because that
Jesus
*was
not
yet glorified*.)
I'll take that as a no.
Fine, so you wouldn't lift a finger to save the one you claim to
love
the
most from torture and death simply because you selfishly stand to
gain
eternal life in heaven rather than the eternal suffering in hell
that
your
own god has judged you deserve for your sins.
And you call ME a coward?
I'm not the one glorying in the death of an innocent person for my
own
personal gain, you are.
I'm not the one hiding behind the skirts the Jesus character to
avoid
the
punishments that the god character has decreed that I deserve, you
are.
Me? I'd rescue the poor ***** without hesitation, even if I
believed
I'd
lose my Get Out of Hell Free card.
But that's because I have integrity, and you don't.
Yes, you have so much integrity that you are willing to ***** up the
Father's
plan in some vain quest of heroism and glory
So it's ok to allow the torture and death of an innocent person as long
as
it's someone's plan?
Charming.
while at the same time
destroying the chance for *millions* who would receive the gift of the
Father's Spirit without your interference. Now if the benefit of
Christ
entering into his glory was only to you, then by all means you could
spare
Christ his suffering. But the benfit was to millions, not just you.
So
you
are quite selfish to try to ***** up a plan that was to benefit
millions,
not
just you alone.
I'm so relieved to know that you think it's ok to allow the torture and
death of an innocent person as long as it benefits a BUNCH of people who
think like you.
That's SO much better. Not.
It was the Son's choice to suffer at the hands of sinners.
You know, it's usually considered a moral thing to talk suicidal people
out
of suicide.
Not for you, apparently.
He could have fled long before his betrayer turned him over into the
hands
of sinners, but he preferred to carry out the will of his Father whose
authority he respected, because it knew that so many would be saved
because
of his entering into the glory of his Father, whereby that boundless,
eternal, incorruptible Spirit is given to those who follow him.
Saved from what?
The endless cycle of birth, illness, old age, pain, death.
Saved from birth? You believe birth is bad, or at least unfortunate?
It seems you believe that life sucks. That explains a lot.
What happens if we're not saved?
The cycle continues, but the really important question is, what if the
cycle
continues without a physical world such as this earth, to be reborn into?
No, the really important question is whether the Incredible Hulk could beat
Superman.
Oops, sorry, they're actually both stupid questions.
Who decides what happens
to us if we're not saved?
Not who, but what. The law of cause and effect.
So the gods you're talking about didn't create the universe? Because if
they did, then cause and effect is just a policy THEY set up.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "LionOfJudah" |
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16 Aug 2003 03:20:43 PM |
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
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"LionOfJudah" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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"LionOfJudah" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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There is a saying, the truth is stranger than fiction.
But perhaps not the way you think it is.
So when I know the truth and I tell them the truth, which really
is
stranger
than fiction, they who consider themselves to be "normal", when
in
fact
they
are completely brainwashed into believing that a God is most
Holy
who
is
jealous and hateful and who commands his prophets to murder even
children
by
the edge of a sword and who also praises the son of his high
priest
for
thrusting a javelin through the belly of both a woman and a man
who
no
longer wanted to worship him, they start saying I'm insane
because
I
reasoned with them that such a Spirit which also speaks from the
midst
of
thick darkness isn't Holy, and then they call me a nutcase.
We'll be happy to call you a nutcase for fresh new reasons.
Someone else posted in a message in the guise of "wanting to
learn",
but
then resorted back to the very same game of pretentiousness and
name
calling.
Well, if you're talking to christians, you have to expect that.
Well I realize that there are indeed newcomers who may be
walking
into
the
middle of a brawl and not in posession of the facts of what
transpired
before witnessing what they are. So for the benefit of this
person,
I
am
going to show them where it all started, with this post.
You're going to try to convince atheists that you're right with
BIBLE
QUOTES?
You might want to consider doing a little basic research on your
audience.
And once more, in the spirit of Krishnamurti, I will repeat his
words
:
This is not starting out well...
"Rather than listen to me as if I'm trying to convince you of
something,
give your attention with the understanding that I am merely
pointing
certain
things for you to examine."
"Things for us to examine." This should be interesting.
Contrary to what others have implied, I did not invent any of
these
atrocities which the God of Moses and the prophets committed,
who
the
present day Jews and Judaeo-Christians, as well as Muslims, all
were
taught
to believe in from since they were children as they were unable
to
think
for
themselves and looked to their parents for guidance, who in turn
were
taught
the same by their parents, and so on.
No, a bunch of bronze-age shysters invented it.
So here are comparisons between the Old Testament and New
Testament
scriptures which prove beyond a doubt that Christ did not serve
the
OT
God,
then it analyses more closely the NT to show who the real Father
of
Christ
is, and who the God of the OT really is.
And here you lose the atheists. We give no more credence to the NT
than
we
do to the OT. They're both nonsense. There's no evidence that this
christ
of
yours even existed.
You are not presenting us with "things to examine", you're
presenting
us
with unsupported claims.
(snip fucking REAMS of bible crap)
Your idiotic scripture is not welcome here in alt atheism.
Another coward!
Coward?
Here's a question: If you could go back in time and successfully
rescue
Jesus from the crucifixion, would you do it?
He could have saved himself from the crucifixion, but chose instead to
carry
out his Father's will and to suffer at the hands of sinners, and to
enter
thereafter into the glory of his Father.
Luke:24:26: Ought not Christ to have *suffered these things*, and *to
enter
into his glory*?
John:7:37: In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and
cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.
38: He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his
belly
shall flow rivers of living water.
39: (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him
should
receive: for the Holy Ghost was *not yet given*; because that Jesus *was
not
yet glorified*.)
I'll take that as a no.
Correct. I am not greater than the authority of the unsurpassed wisdom whose
will it was that Jesus suffered to enter into his glory.
Fine, so you wouldn't lift a finger to save the one you claim to love the
most from torture and death
It was never up to me. Jesus didn't have to stick around when he knew his
betrayer was about to play his card, but he stayed on and awaited his fate,
preferring instead to carry out the will of his Father which was to the
benefit of the millions who now follow Christ.
simply because you selfishly stand to gain
eternal life in heaven.
First of all, the offer was made to us by Christ and his Father. His Father
knew the benefit of Jesus entering into his glory would bring to millions
who now follow Christ.
rather than the eternal suffering in hell that your
own god has judged you deserve for your sins.
I don't knwo what god you are referring to. My God is the unsurpassed wisdom
of the Buddha. He hasn't judged that I deserve eternal hell (which is
precisely what the eternal cycle of rebirth and death is) but rather he has
made it possible for all who follow the Son of the Blessed One to share in
the Son's inheritance of all that is the Father -- that boundless, deathless
and incorruptible Spirit whose glory fadeth not away.
And you call ME a coward?
Now I call you also ignorant and arrogant.
I'm not the one glorying in the death of an innocent person for my own
personal gain, you are.
It was the will of the Father that the Son suffered and entered into his
glory whereby now is given the gift of his Father's Holy Ghost.
The unsurpassed wisdom of the Father is the authority which Jesus served,
and so do I.
I'm not the one hiding behind the skirts the Jesus character to avoid the
punishments that the god character has decreed that I deserve, you are.
Which god character is that? The god of the Jews? I told you before, my God
is the unsurpassed wisdom, the Buddha, the Holy Ghost. Not the God of the
Jews.
Me? I'd rescue the poor ***** without hesitation, even if I believed I'd
lose my Get Out of Hell Free card.
I'll bet you were indeed there. And you were calling for his death along
with the other bunch of jealous morons. And that explains why at present you
are both ignorant and arrogant and totally clueless of what it is the Father
accomplished in the Son.
Tsk, tsk.
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17 Aug 2003 01:46:01 PM |
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"LionOfJudah" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in
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He could have saved himself from the crucifi<RESET>
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're just the Atari 2600 version of Pac Man, 8-
Bit Brian--cheap graphics, cheap sounds, and slow as hell. I'll put the
stand-up arcade version up against you any time.
--
Dr. Smartass
BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
"And the knowledge that they fear
Is a weapon to be used against them."
--Rush, "The Weapon"
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| User: "LionOfJudah" |
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17 Aug 2003 02:57:42 PM |
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"Dr. Smartass" <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote in message
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"LionOfJudah" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:80t%a.1152$mE5.211@fe05.atl2.webusenet.com:
He could have saved himself from the crucifi<RESET>
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're just the Atari 2600
I'd prefer if you said I was the Atari 800 version. The Atari 800 was the
first computer I owned and I wrote games for it as a hobby.
http://www.atarimagazines.com/v7n7/DimentionWizards.html
Also note that I am from Trinidad named after the Father in the Holy
Trinity, where I came from.
:)
version of Pac Man, 8-
Bit Brian--cheap graphics, cheap sounds, and slow as hell. I'll put the
stand-up arcade version up against you any time.
--
Dr. Smartass
BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
"And the knowledge that they fear
Is a weapon to be used against them."
--Rush, "The Weapon"
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| User: "LionOfJudah" |
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17 Aug 2003 11:01:29 AM |
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"MarkA" <nobiz@ofyours.com> wrote in message
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LionOfJudah wrote:
Here's a question: If you could go back in time and successfully rescue
Jesus from the crucifixion, would you do it?
He could have saved himself from the crucifixion, but chose instead to
carry
out his Father's will and to suffer at the hands of sinners, and to
enter
thereafter into the glory of his Father.
Luke:24:26: Ought not Christ to have *suffered these things*, and *to
enter
into his glory*?
John:7:37: In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and
cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.
38: He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his
belly
shall flow rivers of living water.
39: (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him
should
receive: for the Holy Ghost was *not yet given*; because that Jesus *was
not
yet glorified*.)
As the saying (around here) goes, "Jesus was temporarily inconvenienced
for your sins."
And I'm saying that's a very negative way to look at it. The positive way to
look at it would be to say Jesus was temporarily inconvenienced to make it
possible for those who follow him to abide with him in his Father's kingdom
where there is no more illness, pain, or death but only peace and joy in his
Father's Holy Ghost.
MarkA
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| User: "Ghost Rider" |
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16 Aug 2003 01:16:04 PM |
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One fine day in alt.atheism, LionOfJudah fired a few neurons and wrote
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
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Coward?
Here's a question: If you could go back in time and successfully
rescue Jesus from the crucifixion, would you do it?
He could have saved himself from the crucifixion, but chose instead to
carry out his Father's will and to suffer at the hands of sinners, and
to enter thereafter into the glory of his Father.
<snip bibblebabble>
And there's the infamous christian dodge, a headfirst dive into the book-o-
lies to find the answer to a question he cannot answer himself.
Answer the fucking question, moron.
--
Ghost Rider
aa # 2011
EAC Nonexistent Director of Alcohol, Tobacco and Bad Puns
"How can you just obey?"
[Greg Lake, "Infinite Space" - Emerson, Lake & Palmer]
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| User: "LionOfJudah" |
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16 Aug 2003 03:07:04 PM |
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"Ghost Rider" <ghostman@ghost.com> wrote in message
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One fine day in alt.atheism, LionOfJudah fired a few neurons and wrote
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
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Coward?
Here's a question: If you could go back in time and successfully
rescue Jesus from the crucifixion, would you do it?
He could have saved himself from the crucifixion, but chose instead to
carry out his Father's will and to suffer at the hands of sinners, and
to enter thereafter into the glory of his Father.
<snip bibblebabble>
And there's the infamous christian dodge, a headfirst dive into the
book-o-
lies to find the answer to a question he cannot answer himself.
Answer the fucking question, moron.
At this moment the question I'm trying to answer is, what sort of completely
fucked up karma did you have to become totally ignorant cunts like the lot
of you atheists?
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Ghost Rider
aa # 2011
EAC Nonexistent Director of Alcohol, Tobacco and Bad Puns
"How can you just obey?"
[Greg Lake, "Infinite Space" - Emerson, Lake & Palmer]
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16 Aug 2003 09:56:23 PM |
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"LionOfJudah" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> thought hard and said:
At this moment the question I'm trying to answer is, what sort of completely
fucked up karma did you have to become totally ignorant cunts like the lot
of you atheists?
There are three stages of a Xian troll.
Stage One: They charge in, throwing Bible quotes left and right.
Insults to the Xian ensue.
Stage Two: Now frustrated, the Xian throws insults left and right.
More insults to the Xian ensue.
Stage Three: The Xian runs like a whipped dog and declares victory.
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-Kolle; 15 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, and Gustav Mahler are my Gods.
Madly Insane EAC Scientist.
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16 Aug 2003 09:58:59 PM |
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"Daniel Kolle" <DKolle@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"LionOfJudah" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> thought hard and said:
At this moment the question I'm trying to answer is, what sort of
completely
fucked up karma did you have to become totally ignorant cunts like the
lot
of you atheists?
There are three stages of a Xian troll.
Stage One: They charge in, throwing Bible quotes left and right.
Insults to the Xian ensue.
Stage Two: Now frustrated, the Xian throws insults left and right.
More insults to the Xian ensue.
Stage Three: The Xian runs like a whipped dog and declares victory.
Very interesting :)
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-Kolle; 15 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, and Gustav Mahler are my Gods.
Madly Insane EAC Scientist.
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17 Aug 2003 08:39:01 PM |
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On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 21:56:23 -0500, Daniel Kolle <DKolle@hotmail.com>
posted in alt.atheism:
"LionOfJudah" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> thought hard and said:
At this moment the question I'm trying to answer is, what sort of completely
fucked up karma did you have to become totally ignorant cunts like the lot
of you atheists?
There are three stages of a Xian troll.
Stage One: They charge in, throwing Bible quotes left and right.
Insults to the Xian ensue.
Stage Two: Now frustrated, the Xian throws insults left and right.
More insults to the Xian ensue.
Stage Three: The Xian runs like a whipped dog and declares victory.
You have the order reversed on that last one.
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"Damn. Looks like all of usenet agrees that you don't have the logical
faculties to prove the statement 'dogshit is not peanut butter' if we
gave you a jar of each and a box of crackers" - John Hattan to Tic
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
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17 Aug 2003 08:43:39 PM |
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 21:56:23 -0500, Daniel Kolle <DKolle@hotmail.com>
posted in alt.atheism:
"LionOfJudah" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> thought hard and said:
At this moment the question I'm trying to answer is, what sort of
completely
fucked up karma did you have to become totally ignorant cunts like the
lot
of you atheists?
There are three stages of a Xian troll.
Stage One: They charge in, throwing Bible quotes left and right.
Insults to the Xian ensue.
Stage Two: Now frustrated, the Xian throws insults left and right.
More insults to the Xian ensue.
Stage Three: The Xian runs like a whipped dog and declares victory.
He wouldn't declare victory unless they finally understood his message and
even then the victory wouldn't be his but theirs.
You have the order reversed on that last one.
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"Damn. Looks like all of usenet agrees that you don't have the logical
faculties to prove the statement 'dogshit is not peanut butter' if we
gave you a jar of each and a box of crackers" - John Hattan to Tic
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
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17 Aug 2003 02:31:57 PM |
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Stage three? You are quite the optimist.
Stage three reads more like: Repeat stage two until the Xian dies of
extreme old age.
Daniel Kolle wrote:
"LionOfJudah" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> thought hard and said:
At this moment the question I'm trying to answer is, what sort of completely
fucked up karma did you have to become totally ignorant cunts like the lot
of you atheists?
There are three stages of a Xian troll.
Stage One: They charge in, throwing Bible quotes left and right.
Insults to the Xian ensue.
Stage Two: Now frustrated, the Xian throws insults left and right.
More insults to the Xian ensue.
Stage Three: The Xian runs like a whipped dog and declares victory.
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-Kolle; 15 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, and Gustav Mahler are my Gods.
Madly Insane EAC Scientist.
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17 Aug 2003 01:48:00 PM |
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"LionOfJudah" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in
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"Ghost Rider" <ghostman@ghost.com> wrote in message
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One fine day in alt.atheism, LionOfJudah fired a few neurons and
wrote
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
news:TTs%a.168099$TJ.9948809@twister.austin.rr.com...
Coward?
Here's a question: If you could go back in time and successfully
rescue Jesus from the crucifixion, would you do it?
He could have saved himself from the crucifixion, but chose instead
to carry out his Father's will and to suffer at the hands of
sinners, and to enter thereafter into the glory of his Father.
<snip bibblebabble>
And there's the infamous christian dodge, a headfirst dive into the
book-o-
lies to find the answer to a question he cannot answer himself.
Answer the fucking question, moron.
At this moment the question I'm trying to answer is, what sort of
completely fucked up karma did you have to become totally ignorant
cunts like the lot of you atheists?
Another dodge from Brian "Low-Rez" Cozier!
The ghosts are flashing blue-and-white now, Brian. Won't be long before
they come for you. Eat fast. Wakka-wakka.
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Dr. Smartass
BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
"And the knowledge that they fear
Is a weapon to be used against them."
--Rush, "The Weapon"
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16 Aug 2003 07:49:32 PM |
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"LionOfJudah" <bcozier@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:<%Yv%a.2664$sA4.659@fe02.atl2.webusenet.com>...
"Ghost Rider" <ghostman@ghost.com> wrote in message
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One fine day in alt.atheism, LionOfJudah fired a few neurons and wrote
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
news:TTs%a.168099$TJ.9948809@twister.austin.rr.com...
Coward?
Here's a question: If you could go back in time and successfully
rescue Jesus from the crucifixion, would you do it?
He could have saved himself from the crucifixion, but chose instead to
carry out his Father's will and to suffer at the hands of sinners, and
to enter thereafter into the glory of his Father.
<snip bibblebabble>
And there's the infamous christian dodge, a headfirst dive into the
book-o-
lies to find the answer to a question he cannot answer himself.
Answer the fucking question, moron.
At this moment the question I'm trying to answer is, what sort of completely
fucked up karma did you have to become totally ignorant cunts like the lot
of you atheists?
--
Ghost Rider
aa # 2011
EAC Nonexistent Director of Alcohol, Tobacco and Bad Puns
"How can you just obey?"
[Greg Lake, "Infinite Space" - Emerson, Lake & Palmer]
So, apparently spokesmen for God use crude epithets for females as the
ultimate insult. But we knew that already.
And what's your test for ignorance - agreeing with you?
--- Kermit
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16 Aug 2003 07:53:48 PM |
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One fine day in alt.atheism, LionOfJudah fired a few neurons and wrote
"Ghost Rider" <ghostman@ghost.com> wrote in message
news:Xns93D97366D58C6ghostmanghostcom@127.0.0.1...
One fine day in alt.atheism, LionOfJudah fired a few neurons and
wrote
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
news:TTs%a.168099$TJ.9948809@twister.austin.rr.com...
Coward?
Here's a question: If you could go back in time and successfully
rescue Jesus from the crucifixion, would you do it?
He could have saved himself from the crucifixion, but chose instead
to carry out his Father's will and to suffer at the hands of
sinners, and to enter thereafter into the glory of his Father.
<snip bibblebabble>
And there's the infamous christian dodge, a headfirst dive into the
book-o-
lies to find the answer to a question he cannot answer himself.
Answer the fucking question, moron.
At this moment the question I'm trying to answer is, what sort of
completely fucked up karma did you have to become totally ignorant
cunts like the lot of you atheists?
Another dodge. Come back when you have an answer. In the meantime,
consider this one. Do you pray to Jesus with that mouth?
--
Ghost Rider
aa # 2011
EAC Nonexistent Director of Alcohol, Tobacco and Bad Puns
"How can you just obey?"
[Greg Lake, "Infinite Space" - Emerson, Lake & Palmer]
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16 Aug 2003 07:59:43 PM |
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"Ghost Rider" <ghostman@ghost.com> wrote in message
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One fine day in alt.atheism, LionOfJudah fired a few neurons and wrote
"Ghost Rider" <ghostman@ghost.com> wrote in message
news:Xns93D97366D58C6ghostmanghostcom@127.0.0.1...
One fine day in alt.atheism, LionOfJudah fired a few neurons and
wrote
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
news:TTs%a.168099$TJ.9948809@twister.austin.rr.com...
Coward?
Here's a question: If you could go back in time and successfully
rescue Jesus from the crucifixion, would you do it?
He could have saved himself from the crucifixion, but chose instead
to carry out his Father's will and to suffer at the hands of
sinners, and to enter thereafter into the glory of his Father.
<snip bibblebabble>
And there's the infamous christian dodge, a headfirst dive into the
book-o-
lies to find the answer to a question he cannot answer himself.
Answer the fucking question, moron.
At this moment the question I'm trying to answer is, what sort of
completely fucked up karma did you have to become totally ignorant
cunts like the lot of you atheists?
Another dodge. Come back when you have an answer. In the meantime,
consider this one. Do you pray to Jesus with that mouth?
Matthew:22:8: Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they
which were bidden were not worthy.
You people have some really fucked up karma.
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Ghost Rider
aa # 2011
EAC Nonexistent Director of Alcohol, Tobacco and Bad Puns
"How can you just obey?"
[Greg Lake, "Infinite Space" - Emerson, Lake & Palmer]
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