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"alen" |
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23 Nov 2005 02:50:28 PM |
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Re: To Believe In Jesus |
Bill wrote:
"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:uQxgf.4055$wf.2876@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
One must believe
that Jesus is LORD (not some lesser lord)
for salvation.
The Son is God, one with the Father.
Eternal life comes by believing in Jesus;
and to believe in Jesus is to believe
that Jesus is God and our eternal life
And your objective verifiable material evidence for these claims is???
Your 'question' is out of place, as usual, atheist. Take yourself
and your 'question' back to a scientific laboratory, where you
belong, and bolt the door, and throw the key out the window.
Alen
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| User: "Yournameheres personal Cthulhu" |
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| Title: Re: Re: To Believe In Jesus |
23 Nov 2005 04:25:04 PM |
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"alen" <alen1@westserv.net.au> suddenly spluttered:
Bill wrote:
"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:uQxgf.4055$wf.2876@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
One must believe
that Jesus is LORD (not some lesser lord)
for salvation.
The Son is God, one with the Father.
Eternal life comes by believing in Jesus;
and to believe in Jesus is to believe
that Jesus is God and our eternal life
And your objective verifiable material evidence for these claims is???
Your 'question' is out of place, as usual, atheist. Take yourself
and your 'question' back to a scientific laboratory, where you
belong, and bolt the door, and throw the key out the window.
Alen
Why is it out of place? Because your beliefs cannot stand up to any
kind of honest scrutiny, or because you don't give a flying ***** what
the truth is?
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Conflict over the exact will/purpose/nature of God cannot ever be
resolved, since there are no facts to go on.
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
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| User: "alen" |
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24 Nov 2005 01:41:50 PM |
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<Yournamehere>'s personal Cthulhu wrote:
"alen" <alen1@westserv.net.au> suddenly spluttered:
Bill wrote:
"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:uQxgf.4055$wf.2876@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
One must believe
that Jesus is LORD (not some lesser lord)
for salvation.
The Son is God, one with the Father.
Eternal life comes by believing in Jesus;
and to believe in Jesus is to believe
that Jesus is God and our eternal life
And your objective verifiable material evidence for these claims is???
Your 'question' is out of place, as usual, atheist. Take yourself
and your 'question' back to a scientific laboratory, where you
belong, and bolt the door, and throw the key out the window.
Alen
Why is it out of place? Because your beliefs cannot stand up to any
kind of honest scrutiny, or because you don't give a flying ***** what
the truth is?
Is that what you call it? I see no sign of honest scrutiny,
only atheistic prejudice, which allows all sorts of people to
have all sorts of views, beliefs, etc. about many things in
life, but never believers in a God. They alone must always
be chained by 'tangible evidence'. Such is the 'honest
scrutiny' of atheists.
Alen
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| User: "Yournameheres personal Cthulhu" |
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24 Nov 2005 05:31:30 PM |
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"alen" <alen1@westserv.net.au> 'im whine an' grine:
<Yournamehere>'s personal Cthulhu wrote:
"alen" <alen1@westserv.net.au> suddenly spluttered:
Bill wrote:
"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:uQxgf.4055$wf.2876@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
One must believe
that Jesus is LORD (not some lesser lord)
for salvation.
The Son is God, one with the Father.
Eternal life comes by believing in Jesus;
and to believe in Jesus is to believe
that Jesus is God and our eternal life
And your objective verifiable material evidence for these claims is???
Your 'question' is out of place, as usual, atheist. Take yourself
and your 'question' back to a scientific laboratory, where you
belong, and bolt the door, and throw the key out the window.
Alen
Why is it out of place? Because your beliefs cannot stand up to any
kind of honest scrutiny, or because you don't give a flying ***** what
the truth is?
Is that what you call it? I see no sign of honest scrutiny,
only atheistic prejudice, which allows all sorts of people to
have all sorts of views, beliefs, etc. about many things in
life, but never believers in a God. They alone must always
be chained by 'tangible evidence'. Such is the 'honest
scrutiny' of atheists.
Alen
You made an assertion (see the deepest nested bit of this thread) of
fact. It warrants rational justification, otherwise you simply aren't
being honest. Now, stop whining and answer the question: On what
evidence is your belief based? Don't waste peoples time whining about
what anybody else said or did, here is your opportunity to justify
your beliefs:
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Conflict over the exact will/purpose/nature of God cannot ever be
resolved, since there are no facts to go on.
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
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| User: "alen" |
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27 Nov 2005 06:51:11 AM |
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<Yournamehere>'s personal Cthulhu wrote:
"alen" <alen1@westserv.net.au> 'im whine an' grine:
<Yournamehere>'s personal Cthulhu wrote:
"alen" <alen1@westserv.net.au> suddenly spluttered:
Bill wrote:
"Frank" <roines@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:uQxgf.4055$wf.2876@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
One must believe
that Jesus is LORD (not some lesser lord)
for salvation.
The Son is God, one with the Father.
Eternal life comes by believing in Jesus;
and to believe in Jesus is to believe
that Jesus is God and our eternal life
And your objective verifiable material evidence for these claims is???
Your 'question' is out of place, as usual, atheist. Take yourself
and your 'question' back to a scientific laboratory, where you
belong, and bolt the door, and throw the key out the window.
Alen
Why is it out of place? Because your beliefs cannot stand up to any
kind of honest scrutiny, or because you don't give a flying ***** what
the truth is?
Is that what you call it? I see no sign of honest scrutiny,
only atheistic prejudice, which allows all sorts of people to
have all sorts of views, beliefs, etc. about many things in
life, but never believers in a God. They alone must always
be chained by 'tangible evidence'. Such is the 'honest
scrutiny' of atheists.
Alen
You made an assertion (see the deepest nested bit of this thread) of
fact. It warrants rational justification, otherwise you simply aren't
being honest. Now, stop whining and answer the question: On what
evidence is your belief based? Don't waste peoples time whining about
what anybody else said or did, here is your opportunity to justify
your beliefs:
You like to prescribe rules for how other people express
their views, do you? Would you like to write my posts for
me, to ensure that they will say what you want to hear?
Do you need lessons in freedom of expression?
When I am expressing my views, it is I who decide what
warrants justification, what questions to answer or not answer,
and what evidence or arguments are appropriate.
Alen
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| User: "Yournameheres personal Cthulhu" |
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28 Nov 2005 01:10:01 PM |
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"alen" <alen1@westserv.net.au> 'im whine an' grine:
When I am expressing my views, it is I who decide what
warrants justification, what questions to answer or not answer,
and what evidence or arguments are appropriate.
Evasion noted. I suggest you never post to atheist newsgroups if you
don't want to be forced to justify your beliefs.
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Conflict over the exact will/purpose/nature of God cannot ever be
resolved, since there are no facts to go on.
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
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| User: "alen" |
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| Title: Re: To Believe In Jesus |
28 Nov 2005 03:08:17 PM |
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<Yournamehere>'s personal Cthulhu wrote:
"alen" <alen1@westserv.net.au> 'im whine an' grine:
When I am expressing my views, it is I who decide what
warrants justification, what questions to answer or not answer,
and what evidence or arguments are appropriate.
Evasion noted. I suggest you never post to atheist newsgroups if you
don't want to be forced to justify your beliefs.
I won't if atheists don't insist on dragging their physical,
scientific laboratory, as it were, into religious faith, where
it doesn't belong, as if all truth is only physical and
tangible.
Alen
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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28 Nov 2005 03:18:37 PM |
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On 28 Nov 2005 07:08:17 -0800, "alen" <alen1@westserv.net.au> wrote:
<Yournamehere>'s personal Cthulhu wrote:
"alen" <alen1@westserv.net.au> 'im whine an' grine:
When I am expressing my views, it is I who decide what
warrants justification, what questions to answer or not answer,
and what evidence or arguments are appropriate.
Evasion noted. I suggest you never post to atheist newsgroups if you
don't want to be forced to justify your beliefs.
I won't if atheists don't insist on dragging their physical,
scientific laboratory, as it were, into religious faith, where
it doesn't belong, as if all truth is only physical and
tangible.
They don't, moron.
Anybody who calls his religious belief "truth" is a liar.
Alen
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| User: "Daniel Jackson" |
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28 Nov 2005 03:21:13 PM |
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"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:vs7mo15f9jlbttdjhttbg59pr12rmh4s6f@4ax.com...
On 28 Nov 2005 07:08:17 -0800, "alen" <alen1@westserv.net.au> wrote:
<Yournamehere>'s personal Cthulhu wrote:
"alen" <alen1@westserv.net.au> 'im whine an' grine:
When I am expressing my views, it is I who decide what
warrants justification, what questions to answer or not answer,
and what evidence or arguments are appropriate.
Evasion noted. I suggest you never post to atheist newsgroups if you
don't want to be forced to justify your beliefs.
I won't if atheists don't insist on dragging their physical,
scientific laboratory, as it were, into religious faith, where
it doesn't belong, as if all truth is only physical and
tangible.
They don't, moron.
Anybody who calls his religious belief "truth" is a liar.
Alen
Any of you atheists that call yourselves "open-minded" are liars.
And your religion, atheism, is not only truth to you, but your guiding star,
for without it you would be lost at sea.
*****
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| User: "Bear" |
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28 Nov 2005 05:09:09 PM |
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"Daniel Jackson" wrote
: Any of you atheists that call yourselves "open-minded" are liars.
: And your religion, atheism, is not only truth to you, but your guiding
star,
: for without it you would be lost at sea.
It is easy to see that you don't know what you are talking about, or that
you are lying. Either way you are wrong!
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| User: "Mark Fergerson" |
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| Title: Re: To Believe In Jesus |
30 Nov 2005 11:28:52 PM |
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Daniel Jackson wrote:
<snip to the crash>
your religion, atheism, is not only truth to you, but your guiding star,
I have to ask; why do you call atheism a religion?
Mark L. Fergerson
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| User: "Marc Goodman" |
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01 Dec 2005 10:30:34 AM |
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Mark Fergerson wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
<snip to the crash>
your religion, atheism, is not only truth to you, but your guiding star,
I have to ask; why do you call atheism a religion?
Because it really, really pisses off the athiests. Duh.
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| User: "Mark South" |
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01 Dec 2005 11:41:42 AM |
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On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 05:30:34 -0500, Marc Goodman wrote:
Mark Fergerson wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
<snip to the crash>
your religion, atheism, is not only truth to you, but your guiding star,
I have to ask; why do you call atheism a religion?
Because it really, really pisses off the athiests. Duh.
I'm mostly atheist, and I'd like atheism to be a religion. Cos then I
could become High Pontiff of the Atheist Church and we could get tax
breaks and naked chyxx^W^Whigh priestesses and have barbecues and
orgies and stuff.
Do you BELIEVE in Atheism? DO YA?!
--
mark south: world citizen, net denizen
echo znexfbhgu2000@lnubb.pb.hx|tr a-z n-za-m
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| User: "Ananias917" |
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01 Dec 2005 01:02:07 PM |
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On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 12:41:42 +0100, Mark South
<mark.south@null.invalid> spake thusly:
On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 05:30:34 -0500, Marc Goodman wrote:
Mark Fergerson wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
<snip to the crash>
your religion, atheism, is not only truth to you, but your guiding star,
I have to ask; why do you call atheism a religion?
Because it really, really pisses off the athiests. Duh.
I'm mostly atheist, and I'd like atheism to be a religion. Cos then I
could become High Pontiff of the Atheist Church and we could get tax
breaks and naked chyxx^W^Whigh priestesses and have barbecues and
orgies and stuff.
Yes, I'm sure being "mostly atheist" you would be
elected.
--
"And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house;
and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the
Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way
as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest
receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost."
- Acts 9:17
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| User: "Mark South" |
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01 Dec 2005 03:35:52 PM |
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On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 13:02:07 +0000, Ananias917 wrote:
On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 12:41:42 +0100, Mark South
<mark.south@null.invalid> spake thusly:
On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 05:30:34 -0500, Marc Goodman wrote:
Mark Fergerson wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
<snip to the crash>
your religion, atheism, is not only truth to you, but your guiding star,
I have to ask; why do you call atheism a religion?
Because it really, really pisses off the athiests. Duh.
I'm mostly atheist, and I'd like atheism to be a religion. Cos then I
could become High Pontiff of the Atheist Church and we could get tax
breaks and naked chyxx^W^Whigh priestesses and have barbecues and
orgies and stuff.
Yes, I'm sure being "mostly atheist" you would be
elected.
Yeah, right, like any church I run is going to have elections.
Oh, you should duck when you hear the whooshing sound, y'know.
--
mark south: world citizen, net denizen
echo znexfbhgu2000@lnubb.pb.hx|tr a-z n-za-m
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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01 Dec 2005 11:57:40 PM |
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On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 12:41:42 +0100, Mark South
<mark.south@null.invalid> wrote:
On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 05:30:34 -0500, Marc Goodman wrote:
Mark Fergerson wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
<snip to the crash>
your religion, atheism, is not only truth to you, but your guiding star,
I have to ask; why do you call atheism a religion?
Because it really, really pisses off the athiests. Duh.
I'm mostly atheist, and I'd like atheism to be a religion. Cos then I
could become High Pontiff of the Atheist Church and we could get tax
breaks and naked chyxx^W^Whigh priestesses and have barbecues and
orgies and stuff.
Do you BELIEVE in Atheism? DO YA?!
Then join the Church of the most Holy Flying Spaghetti Monster!
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| User: "Kevin S. Wilson" |
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01 Dec 2005 12:15:23 AM |
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On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 16:28:52 -0700, Mark Fergerson <nunya@biz.ness>
wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
<snip to the crash>
your religion, atheism, is not only truth to you, but your guiding star,
I have to ask; why do you call atheism a religion?
GRRRR! NO. YOU. DO. NOT. HAVE. TO. ASK.
Now go stand in the corner until the ranting subsides.
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| User: "Mark Fergerson" |
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02 Dec 2005 07:27:58 AM |
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Kevin S. Wilson imitated a Dalek on Thorazine thusly:
On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 16:28:52 -0700, Mark Fergerson <nunya@biz.ness>
wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
<snip to the crash>
your religion, atheism, is not only truth to you, but your guiding star,
I have to ask; why do you call atheism a religion?
GRRRR! NO. YOU. DO. NOT. HAVE. TO. ASK.
Now go stand in the corner until the ranting subsides.
I find it mildly strange that damn near everybody BUT You Know
Who responded, and with their interpretations of What He Would Have
Said at that. I really do want to know why he said that though.
I asked because I've heard this claim from lots42 of Xtians, but
no justification of it; I have to assume that since religion is such
a major part of their lives they assume everybody _has_ to have a
religion, so atheism must be a religion too. Since that makes no
sense at all to my admittedly logic-biased mind, and at least some
Xtians are capable of logic, I was hoping that somebody (if not YKW)
would come up with an explainaition that could hold water or at
least stay strong when moist.
If anybody cares, I used to call myself an atheist but lately
I've decided I'm an apatheist; I don't really care whether or not a
god or gods exist since I have to deal directly with people, and
deities are notably standoffish (at least lately; historically you
couldn't turn around without bumping into two or three of them).
In other news nobody cares about, I'm trying to revamp the
Millenium Falcon as if Starfleet had awarded the Corellian
Engineering Corporation a contract to build a Trekkish warp-capable
fast torpedo boat based on a YT-1300 hull. So far just a fairly cool
..bmp but I plan to eventually build a physical cardmodel.
(I mention this only because I'm fairly sure that such TrekWars
heresy will bring forth more, and better quality, rants than any
petty religious squabble.)
Mark L. Fergerson
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| User: "Lars Eighner" |
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02 Dec 2005 08:21:29 AM |
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In our last episode, <DHSjf.494$La5.155@fed1read01>, the lovely
and talented Mark Fergerson broadcast on alt.atheism:
I find it mildly strange that damn near everybody BUT You Know
Who responded, and with their interpretations of What He Would Have
Said at that. I really do want to know why he said that though.
Okay, I'll bite.
I asked because I've heard this claim from lots42 of Xtians, but
no justification of it; I have to assume that since religion is such
a major part of their lives they assume everybody _has_ to have a
religion, so atheism must be a religion too. Since that makes no
sense at all to my admittedly logic-biased mind, and at least some
Xtians are capable of logic, I was hoping that somebody (if not YKW)
would come up with an explainaition that could hold water or at
least stay strong when moist.
That's giving them the benefit of the doubt sincerity-wise.
In many cases it is a not very subtle attempt to frame a debate
in terms they feel they have a chance of winning.
The first sleight of hand is shifting the definition of atheism
from "not having a belief in god" to "having a belief that there
is no god."
This is an attempt to shift the burden of proof, because they
then claim "a belief that there is no god" is either taken on
faith (i.e. is unsupported by evidence) or is supported by
evidence. Now in fact, by some definitions of "god," it can be
proven there is not god (as defined) because the definition
of that god is self-contradictory. You don't have to search
through the universe to prove that there is no round square
because a round square is contradictory. It cannot exist
because it is impossible by its own terms. Likewise, an
all-knowing, all-creating, all-good god cannot exist because
there are contradictions inherent in those attributes.
But in general is not possible to prove a "god" does not exist.
We simply cannot prove there are no water sprites or wood
nymphs. We could search every creek and tree and still not be
sure that we did not overlook one that did exist. So although
we can prove that the Christian God cannot possibly exist, we
cannot prove, in general, that other kinds of gods - gods with
more limited attributes - do not exist. If Christians only
claimed that their god was very powerful, very wise, fairly
good, and knew a lot, we could not disprove it existed. But
since they claim that their god is perfect in all those
attributes, we can show it is logically impossible for it to
exist. Most of the gods that humans have ever believed in (so
far as we know), were of the more limited kind. So if we
claimed "there is no god" (which most of us don't), that would
have to be taken on faith. Therefore, we would have a religion
- so this false argument goes.
People who claim "there is no god" are called strong atheists,
and there are hardly any of them, and even fewer who hold that
belief as an article of faith irrefutable by evidence. Almost
all of us here "have no belief in (a) god(s)." Almost all of us
are willing to entertain evidence of the existence of god(s), if
any is ever presented, and so "having no belief in (a) god(s)" is
not an article of faith: it is the failure of those who make the
positive claim "There is/are (a) god(s)" to produce any
evidence. That puts the burden of proof where it belongs.
If anybody cares, I used to call myself an atheist but lately
I've decided I'm an apatheist; I don't really care whether or not a
god or gods exist since I have to deal directly with people, and
deities are notably standoffish (at least lately; historically you
couldn't turn around without bumping into two or three of them).
In fact there are kinds of gods, those described by deists and
pantheists, for which believing in them is utterly without
consequence. Some pantheists describe their god in such a way
that it is one and the same with what we call the universe,
neither more nor less. If they want to call what we call the
universe god, I don't see the point in arguing with them. The
deist god has no interest in humankind, no commandments, isn't
flattered by human praise, has no promise of heaven, no threat
of hell, no plan for human kind, doesn't hear prayers, and
doesn't intervene in human affairs. It doesn't seem to me
worthwhile to wonder whether to believe in such a god or not as
believing in that sort of god has absolutely no consequence.
--
Rev. Lars Eighner, ULC http://www.larseighner.com/
The Mint Jelly of God® -- The World's Best Atheist -- Unholier Than Thou
First Church of Electro-Baptism ***Atheist #1965*** One Short Circuit to Jesus
"Religion is the last refuge of human savagery." --Alfred North Whitehead
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| User: "Glenn Knickerbocker" |
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02 Dec 2005 01:45:40 PM |
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On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 00:27:58 -0700, Mark Fergerson <nunya@biz.ness>
wrote:
I find it mildly strange that damn near everybody BUT You Know
Who responded,
Wait, you do realize that You Know Who is just a character in a series of
children's books, not a real live leader of an evil organization engaged
in real-world witchcraft, don't you? And that that's not actually his
name, and even his name isn't his real name?
¬R http://users.bestweb.net/~notr How much must it suck to be the
world superstar at something that no one cares about? --Marc Goodman
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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01 Dec 2005 12:43:24 AM |
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On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 16:28:52 -0700, Mark Fergerson <nunya@biz.ness>
wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
<snip to the crash>
your religion, atheism, is not only truth to you, but your guiding star,
I have to ask; why do you call atheism a religion?
Because he's a button-pushing, bigoted liar.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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01 Dec 2005 03:29:36 AM |
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On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 19:43:24 -0500, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 16:28:52 -0700, Mark Fergerson <nunya@biz.ness>
wrote:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
<snip to the crash>
your religion, atheism, is not only truth to you, but your guiding star,
I have to ask; why do you call atheism a religion?
Because he's a button-pushing, bigoted liar.
And they are his BEST qualities.
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| User: "Mark Edwards" |
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01 Dec 2005 03:49:06 AM |
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[snips]
Mark Fergerson <nunya@biz.ness> wrote:
I have to ask; why do you call atheism a religion?
No cluons were harmed when Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net>
wrote:
Because he's a button-pushing, bigoted liar.
Hey! Leo does *not* push buttons.
Mark Edwards
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Proof of Sanity Forged Upon Request
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| User: "David Jensen" |
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01 Dec 2005 01:24:19 AM |
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On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 16:28:52 -0700, in alt.atheism
Mark Fergerson <nunya@biz.ness> wrote in <kAqjf.292$La5.114@fed1read01>:
Daniel Jackson wrote:
<snip to the crash>
your religion, atheism, is not only truth to you, but your guiding star,
I have to ask; why do you call atheism a religion?
Because functioning in the real world is very difficult for him.
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| User: "twillis" |
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28 Nov 2005 05:14:37 PM |
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Daniel Jackson wrote:
Any of you atheists that call yourselves "open-minded" are liars.
And your religion, atheism, is not only truth to you, but your guiding star,
for without it you would be lost at sea.
*****
Well, dang, dude, now you are starting to hurt my feelings.
Such as they are.
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| User: "Otto Bahn" |
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| Title: Re: To Believe In Jesus |
28 Nov 2005 05:32:54 PM |
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"twillis" <tdwillis@earthlink.net> wrote
Any of you atheists that call yourselves "open-minded" are liars.
And your religion, atheism, is not only truth to you, but your guiding star,
for without it you would be lost at sea.
*****
Well, dang, dude, now you are starting to hurt my feelings.
Set your mind adrift and go wherever current events
take you.
Such as they are.
Such as they were.
--oTTo--
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| User: "twillis" |
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| Title: Re: To Believe In Jesus |
28 Nov 2005 05:35:39 PM |
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Otto Bahn wrote:
"twillis" <tdwillis@earthlink.net> wrote
Any of you atheists that call yourselves "open-minded" are liars.
And your religion, atheism, is not only truth to you, but your guiding star,
for without it you would be lost at sea.
*****
Well, dang, dude, now you are starting to hurt my feelings.
Set your mind adrift and go wherever current events
take you.
You bastid, how to you think I ended up here in the first place?
Such as they are.
Such as they were.
Such as they shall be.
homina homina homina
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| User: "Otto Bahn" |
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| Title: Re: To Believe In Jesus |
28 Nov 2005 07:26:00 PM |
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"twillis" <tdwillis@earthlink.net> wrote
Any of you atheists that call yourselves "open-minded" are liars.
And your religion, atheism, is not only truth to you, but your guiding star,
for without it you would be lost at sea.
*****
Well, dang, dude, now you are starting to hurt my feelings.
Set your mind adrift and go wherever current events
take you.
You bastid, how to you think I ended up here in the first place?
Ah, the old proverbial ark.
Such as they are.
Such as they were.
Such as they shall be.
homina homina homina
Is that the befuddled Ralph Kramden "homina", or the lustful
Eddie Murphy one?
--oTTo--
Trading places
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| User: "Theresa Willis" |
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| Title: Re: To Believe In Jesus |
29 Nov 2005 03:34:30 AM |
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On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 14:26:00 -0500, "Otto Bahn"
<GoAheadKissMyAss@Blew.Devels.com> wrote:
"twillis" <tdwillis@earthlink.net> wrote
Any of you atheists that call yourselves "open-minded" are liars.
And your religion, atheism, is not only truth to you, but your guiding star,
for without it you would be lost at sea.
*****
Well, dang, dude, now you are starting to hurt my feelings.
Set your mind adrift and go wherever current events
take you.
You bastid, how to you think I ended up here in the first place?
Ah, the old proverbial ark.
Such as they are.
Such as they were.
Such as they shall be.
homina homina homina
Is that the befuddled Ralph Kramden "homina", or the lustful
Eddie Murphy one?
That is best left as an exercise for the student.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: To Believe In Jesus |
28 Nov 2005 03:26:49 PM |
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On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 10:21:13 -0500, "Daniel Jackson"
<Jackson_SG-1@comcast.net> wrote:
"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:vs7mo15f9jlbttdjhttbg59pr12rmh4s6f@4ax.com...
On 28 Nov 2005 07:08:17 -0800, "alen" <alen1@westserv.net.au> wrote:
<Yournamehere>'s personal Cthulhu wrote:
"alen" <alen1@westserv.net.au> 'im whine an' grine:
When I am expressing my views, it is I who decide what
warrants justification, what questions to answer or not answer,
and what evidence or arguments are appropriate.
Evasion noted. I suggest you never post to atheist newsgroups if you
don't want to be forced to justify your beliefs.
I won't if atheists don't insist on dragging their physical,
scientific laboratory, as it were, into religious faith, where
it doesn't belong, as if all truth is only physical and
tangible.
They don't, moron.
Anybody who calls his religious belief "truth" is a liar.
Alen
Any of you atheists that call yourselves "open-minded" are liars.
Yet another lying theist who is too stupid to grasp that not believing
in his deity, is no different than not believing in Santa Claus, and
also too stupid to realise that his god-belief is not substantively
different than Zeus-belief, Mithras-belief, Odin-belief etc.
And your religion, atheism, is not only truth to you, but your guiding star,
What "religion, atheism:, liar? Is not believing in Santa Claus a
religion on your planet? What colour is the sky there?
for without it you would be lost at sea.
*****
Typical nasty, stupid, in-your face, lying Christian.
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| User: "Daniel Jackson" |
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| Title: Re: To Believe In Jesus |
28 Nov 2005 03:29:57 PM |
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"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:a48mo11migidh2qqnfebo0mmpvuk92rlrn@4ax.com...
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 10:21:13 -0500, "Daniel Jackson"
<Jackson_SG-1@comcast.net> wrote:
"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:vs7mo15f9jlbttdjhttbg59pr12rmh4s6f@4ax.com...
On 28 Nov 2005 07:08:17 -0800, "alen" <alen1@westserv.net.au> wrote:
<Yournamehere>'s personal Cthulhu wrote:
"alen" <alen1@westserv.net.au> 'im whine an' grine:
When I am expressing my views, it is I who decide what
warrants justification, what questions to answer or not answer,
and what evidence or arguments are appropriate.
Evasion noted. I suggest you never post to atheist newsgroups if you
don't want to be forced to justify your beliefs.
I won't if atheists don't insist on dragging their physical,
scientific laboratory, as it were, into religious faith, where
it doesn't belong, as if all truth is only physical and
tangible.
They don't, moron.
Anybody who calls his religious belief "truth" is a liar.
Alen
Any of you atheists that call yourselves "open-minded" are liars.
Yet another lying theist who is too stupid to grasp that not believing
in his deity, is no different than not believing in Santa Claus, and
also too stupid to realise that his god-belief is not substantively
different than Zeus-belief, Mithras-belief, Odin-belief etc.
And your religion, atheism, is not only truth to you, but your guiding
star,
What "religion, atheism:, liar? Is not believing in Santa Claus a
religion on your planet? What colour is the sky there?
for without it you would be lost at sea.
*****
Typical nasty, stupid, in-your face, lying
cite one lie.
ONE
Christian.
Talk about nasty, you and your pack of feral minks are the nastiest bunch of
slack-jawed family I have ever heard of.
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