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Date: 14 Jan 2004 04:06:48 PM
Object: Re: Today's Founder Quote: States have every right to honor God within their public places
(M. Clark) wrote:

:|What do you mean he "felt"? Thomas Jefferson is not your finger puppet.
:|SHOW ME where he wrote that the states having the power to address
:|religious issues was wrong.

SCREW YOU troll, you have been shown all that needs be shown to you.
You are a troll and are going to troll so long as anyone is silly enough to
reply to you.
You don't even have a minor clue to Jefferson's position on church state.
He was a STRICT SEPARATIONIST. Something you do not understand.

:|> >> >Again, I have been pointing out inconsistencies in Court opinions but
:|> >> >you're stubbornly ignoring them.
:|> >>
:|> >> So take a case to the USSC and convince THEM that you are smarter than
:|> >> all of them collectively. Until then, you lose.
:|> >
:|> >It's not an issue of smart or stupid. It's a case of the Court
:|> >inadvertently not digging deeply enough into Jefferson's writings and
:|> >consequently putting too much emphasis on an unrepresentative Jefferson
:|> >writing.
:|>
:|> It takes considerable hubris to think that you in your spare time have
:|> done more digging than professionals getting paid the big bucks to do
:|> so. Someone like jalison might be likely to pull it off, but he
:|> spends as much time at it as many professionals, maybe more.
:|
:|How many times do I have to note that there was no such thing as a
:|computer search when the Court decided key church/state separation
:|cases?

NOTE AWAY troll. It is totally irrelevant.

:|The Court had to do a paper search and key Jefferson writings
:|evidently got overlooked.

Proof it, You claim it, but never offer any evidence.
BTW, Legal and historical research is quite easy to do WITHOUT COMPUTERS
for anyone who knows what they are doing.
But enough:
Everyone of your positions are exposed as the flawed troll bait that they
really are in the following. Nothing else needs be said or added, it is
completely covered in the following:
14th Amendment Torcaso v. Watkins, Everson. McCollum v. Board of
Education, 333 U.S. 203,
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl2990399584d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=7t0000pmh6knn32adqitccvo5vhosc4oea%404ax.com
http://makeashorterlink.com/?T12D34017
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14th Amendment, Incorporation, Free Exercise, Establishment Clauses
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl299344391d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=0oi800pv8m71ttacsqe95r7d2g35coa79k%404ax.com
http://makeashorterlink.com/?M49622117
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From Benjamin Rush to Jefferson Philadelphia October 6th 1800
I agree with you likewise in your wishes to keep religion and
government independant of each other.
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ADDRESSING RELIGIOUS PROCLAMATIONS UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
WRITTEN BY THOMAS JEFFERSON TO THE REV. Mr. MILLAR
Washington, Jan. 23, 1808 AS WELL AS OTHER THINGS
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Addressing idontreply completely with regards to Jefferson, Everson,
courts, separation of church and state, etc.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl4022340726d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=qtvnvvo7r1veiplqbv8hpeu1f4s17c9k9g%404ax.com
or
http://makeashorterlink.com/?Y28E12FF6
and
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl4022340726d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=pt3ovv0d71c4kme4u5aucg02gfjs8p6s4c%404ax.com
or
http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1AE12FF6
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* Christian Orthodoxy And The Founders
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/orthodox.htm
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* Fourteenth Amendment
http://candst.tripod.com/14thamend.htm
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