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" bozak" |
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02 Aug 2007 06:42:10 PM |
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Re: Very Impressive |
"Arkansan_Raider" <Arkansan_Raider@yomama.com> wrote in message
news:fOlsi.46761$YL5.14398@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
Wow. Talk about improvise, adapt and overcome! These U.S. Marine amputees are running
mini-triathlons!
"Five Marines were saved," he said. "This is why God put me in the Marine Corps."
let me get this straight, god wants americans to die in a war for profit to fatten
up the pockets of bushco???
i mean i know the presidunce told people he talked to god and god told him to go
to war, but i didnt really think people believed that *****...
im often amazed at the gullibility of people who think some sky god actually wants
people to die for morons... makes no sense at all...
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| User: "Richo" |
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| Title: Re: Very Impressive |
08 Aug 2007 10:03:37 PM |
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On Aug 9, 8:25 am, Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarna...@gmail.com> wrote:
[snips]
On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 20:46:41 -0400, Al Klein wrote:
The dictionary exaggerates? (The dictionary shows how the
English-speaking world uses a word.)
Yet most of 'em get many things wrong - check the definition of "atheist"
in any of a half-dozen of 'em.
Duelling dictionaries is a no-win game.
Absolutely.
Mark.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Very Impressive |
09 Aug 2007 04:46:10 PM |
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On Wed, 8 Aug 2007 15:25:56 -0700, Kelsey Bjarnason
<kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote:
[snips]
On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 20:46:41 -0400, Al Klein wrote:
The dictionary exaggerates? (The dictionary shows how the
English-speaking world uses a word.)
Yet most of 'em get many things wrong - check the definition of "atheist"
in any of a half-dozen of 'em.
Most dictionaries get the common usage of "atheist" correct. It's not
the dictionaries that are wrong, it's the people who have no idea what
the word *means* who are *using it* wrong.
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| User: "Kelsey Bjarnason" |
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| Title: Re: Very Impressive |
09 Aug 2007 08:08:03 PM |
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On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 17:46:10 -0400, Al Klein wrote:
On Wed, 8 Aug 2007 15:25:56 -0700, Kelsey Bjarnason
<kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote:
[snips]
On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 20:46:41 -0400, Al Klein wrote:
The dictionary exaggerates? (The dictionary shows how the
English-speaking world uses a word.)
Yet most of 'em get many things wrong - check the definition of
"atheist" in any of a half-dozen of 'em.
Most dictionaries get the common usage of "atheist" correct. It's not
the dictionaries that are wrong, it's the people who have no idea what
the word *means* who are *using it* wrong.
Most of the dictionaries I've seen define "atheist" as something akin to
"antitheist" - positive belief in the non-existence of deities, that sort
of thing.
Fodder for the ignorant, but nothing approaching a correct usage.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Very Impressive |
09 Aug 2007 10:13:41 PM |
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On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 01:08:03 GMT, Kelsey Bjarnason
<kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote:
Most of the dictionaries I've seen define "atheist" as something akin to
"antitheist" - positive belief in the non-existence of deities, that sort
of thing.
Fodder for the ignorant, but nothing approaching a correct usage.
They're merely reporting how the ignorant (and majority) are using it.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Very Impressive |
10 Aug 2007 04:29:02 AM |
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On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 23:13:41 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 01:08:03 GMT, Kelsey Bjarnason
<kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote:
Most of the dictionaries I've seen define "atheist" as something akin to
"antitheist" - positive belief in the non-existence of deities, that sort
of thing.
Fodder for the ignorant, but nothing approaching a correct usage.
They're merely reporting how the ignorant (and majority) are using it.
It is a little more subtle than that.
Most, if not all, English dictionary compilers and editors have and
are reasonably memetically infected Christians.
This colours all entries in the tomes, not just those concerned with
theism, and its lack.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Very Impressive |
10 Aug 2007 04:26:45 AM |
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On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 01:08:03 GMT, Kelsey Bjarnason
<kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 17:46:10 -0400, Al Klein wrote:
On Wed, 8 Aug 2007 15:25:56 -0700, Kelsey Bjarnason
<kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote:
[snips]
On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 20:46:41 -0400, Al Klein wrote:
The dictionary exaggerates? (The dictionary shows how the
English-speaking world uses a word.)
Yet most of 'em get many things wrong - check the definition of
"atheist" in any of a half-dozen of 'em.
Most dictionaries get the common usage of "atheist" correct. It's not
the dictionaries that are wrong, it's the people who have no idea what
the word *means* who are *using it* wrong.
Most of the dictionaries I've seen define "atheist" as something akin to
"antitheist" - positive belief in the non-existence of deities, that sort
of thing.
Fodder for the ignorant, but nothing approaching a correct usage.
It is a subset of the encompassing defintion of 'without theism'.
Antitheists are also atheist.
But to equate or conflate the two is clearly an elementary scholastic
error.
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| User: "Christopher A.Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Very Impressive |
10 Aug 2007 05:25:33 AM |
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On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 18:56:45 +0930, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 01:08:03 GMT, Kelsey Bjarnason
<kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 17:46:10 -0400, Al Klein wrote:
On Wed, 8 Aug 2007 15:25:56 -0700, Kelsey Bjarnason
<kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote:
[snips]
On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 20:46:41 -0400, Al Klein wrote:
The dictionary exaggerates? (The dictionary shows how the
English-speaking world uses a word.)
Yet most of 'em get many things wrong - check the definition of
"atheist" in any of a half-dozen of 'em.
Most dictionaries get the common usage of "atheist" correct. It's not
the dictionaries that are wrong, it's the people who have no idea what
the word *means* who are *using it* wrong.
Most of the dictionaries I've seen define "atheist" as something akin to
"antitheist" - positive belief in the non-existence of deities, that sort
of thing.
Fodder for the ignorant, but nothing approaching a correct usage.
It is a subset of the encompassing defintion of 'without theism'.
Antitheists are also atheist.
But to equate or conflate the two is clearly an elementary scholastic
error.
They are incapable of grasping our actual POV because it gets filtered
through their religious presumptions. They can't think outside the box
because in their psychosis there is no "outside the box".
At some level they might grasp basic logic, but to them it's like
arguing the difference between not believing in the planet Earth, and
believing the planet Earth doesn't exist - both are totally
unreasonable and there's very little difference emotionally to
somebody who knows it does.
But it is impossible to break through their psychosis to explain
anything outside their box.
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| User: "Arkansan_Raider" |
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| Title: Re: Very Impressive |
02 Aug 2007 11:28:16 PM |
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It did to yo mama last night. She was screamin' it.
---Jeff
Al Klein wrote:
Religion never makes sense.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Very Impressive |
03 Aug 2007 07:43:25 AM |
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On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 23:28:16 -0500, Arkansan_Raider
<Arkansan_Raider@yomama.com> wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
Religion never makes sense.
It did to yo mama last night. She was screamin' it.
You were in her grave? Stay there.
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