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"david ford" |
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09 Nov 2004 06:19:05 AM |
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Re: Wanted: Book Recommendations |
AC <mightymartianca@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<slrncp0iur.3rj.mightymartianca@aaronclausen.alberni.net>...
On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 david ford <dford3@gl.umbc.edu> wrote:
robschebel@yahoo.com (Rob) wrote in message news:<940b268a.0410310923.5aa85bd9@posting.google.com>...
Greetings, everyone.
I'm a 33 year-old English teacher with degrees in English Literature
and Philosophy. I'm also a Scientific Humanist with strong interests
in cosmology, astronomy, and other sciences.
I've had a look around your website, and I want to give kudos to those
of you who played a role in the creation of the various FAQs. These
FAQs have recently provided me with some much-needed ammunition
against a rather obnoxious creationist chemistry teacher at my school.
In any case, my understanding of evolutionary biology and the
arguments against ID theory is still a bit weak. I know enough to
expose, for example, the ridiculous creationist use of the 2nd law in
arguing against evolution.
[RS]"I'm also a Scientific Humanist with strong interests in
cosmology, astronomy, and other sciences."
Do you [RS]"know enough to expose... the ridiculous creationist use
of" the big bang [RS]"in arguing against" atheism?
The Search for a Loophole to the Beginning of the Universe
in the Big Bang and to the Seeming-Design of Physics
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.LNX.4.10A.B3.10005292327160.25513-100000%40jabba.gl.umbc.edu
Einstein thought a super-intelligence designed physics
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.SGI.3.96A.980828014215.21206A-100000%40umbc8.umbc.edu
Genesis might mention the expanding universe
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.SGI.3.96.980711003240.23871B-100000%40umbc8.umbc.edu
Ignore David. He's addicted to self-referential links, and rarely actually
has anything to say, save to spew out strawmen or crap he's unabashedly
cribbed from a Holocaust denier.
[AC]"a Holocaust denier"
Aaron refers to Yahya in
Yahya and Koster on the use of fear and force
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=b1c67abe.0407030811.4e8cd1bd%40posting.google.com
[AC]"Ignore David. He's addicted to self-referential links"
To illustrate, see
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-b1c67abe.0409080358.1d05e64c%40posting.google.com
Rob, do you have an answer to these questions?:
Yockey, Hubert P. 1974. "An Application of Information Theory to the
Central Dogma and the Sequence Hypothesis" _Journal of Theoretical
Biology_ 46: 369-406. On 371:
The vast majority of the sequences in the ensemble of all sequences
of length _N_, of letters of a written language have no assigned
meaning or specificity. The same is true of sequences of digits
zero through nine and of musical notes. However, embedded in the
ensemble of all such sequences are, say, a play by Sophocles, the
lost works of Aristotle.... By the same token the protein
sequences of length _N_, which carry specificity, are embedded in
the ensemble of all amino acids sequences of length _N_. Those
sequences which carry specificity are a tiny fraction of the
ensemble.
Statement: "Those amino acid sequences of length N=101 thru N=1010
that carry specificity are a tiny fraction of the ensemble of all
amino acid sequences of length N=101 thru N=1010." Ballpark answers
to the questions below would help me determine the validity of this
statement.
Of all possible amino acid sequences of length 101, what proportion of
those sequences will be functional proteins of some sort? 1/9th? 1
out of every 2,000? 1/10^17th? 1 out of every 10^24? 1/10^80th?
What?
Same question, this time for amino acid sequences of length 202?
Of length 303?
Of length 404?
Of length 505?
Of length 606?
Of length 707?
Of length 808?
Of length 909?
Of length 1010?
Also, how long is the biggest functional amino acid sequence of which
you're aware?; of all possible amino acid sequences of that length,
what proportion of those sequences will be functional proteins of some
sort?
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| User: "Malcolm" |
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| Title: Re: Wanted: Book Recommendations |
10 Nov 2004 03:58:06 AM |
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(david ford) wrote in message news:<dford3-b1c67abe.0411090429.7faaed9f@posting.google.com>...
AC <mightymartianca@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<slrncp0iur.3rj.mightymartianca@aaronclausen.alberni.net>...
On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 david ford < > wrote:
robschebel@yahoo.com (Rob) wrote in message news:<940b268a.0410310923.5aa85bd9@posting.google.com>...
Greetings, everyone.
I'm a 33 year-old English teacher with degrees in English Literature
and Philosophy. I'm also a Scientific Humanist with strong interests
in cosmology, astronomy, and other sciences.
....
FAQs have recently provided me with some much-needed ammunition
against a rather obnoxious creationist chemistry teacher at my school.
....
Do you [RS]"know enough to expose... the ridiculous creationist use
of" the big bang [RS]"in arguing against" atheism?
The wonderful atheist George Gamow used his excellent sense of humour
to take on the Pope when he tried to usurp Big Bang cosmology in the
RC cause. A full account of this, and much else myth-bashing material
in:
http://www.321books.co.uk/reviews/big-bang-simon-singh.htm
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| User: "david ford" |
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| Title: Re: Wanted: Book Recommendations |
10 Nov 2004 08:19:34 PM |
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(Malcolm) wrote in message news:<b9ce2bbb.0411100209.35677b77@posting.google.com>...
dford3@gl.umbc.edu (david ford) wrote in message news:<dford3-b1c67abe.0411090429.7faaed9f@posting.google.com>...
AC <mightymartianca@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<slrncp0iur.3rj.mightymartianca@aaronclausen.alberni.net>...
On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 david ford <dford3@gl.umbc.edu> wrote:
robschebel@yahoo.com (Rob) wrote in message news:<940b268a.0410310923.5aa85bd9@posting.google.com>...
Greetings, everyone.
I'm a 33 year-old English teacher with degrees in English Literature
and Philosophy. I'm also a Scientific Humanist with strong interests
in cosmology, astronomy, and other sciences.
...
FAQs have recently provided me with some much-needed ammunition
against a rather obnoxious creationist chemistry teacher at my school.
...
Do you [RS]"know enough to expose... the ridiculous creationist use
of" the big bang [RS]"in arguing against" atheism?
The wonderful atheist George Gamow used his excellent sense of humour
to take on the Pope when he tried to usurp Big Bang cosmology in the
RC cause.
How about taking me on.
The Search for a Loophole to the Beginning of the Universe
in the Big Bang and to the Seeming-Design of Physics
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.LNX.4.10A.B3.10005292327160.25513-100000%40jabba.gl.umbc.edu
A full account of this, and much else myth-bashing material
in:
http://www.321books.co.uk/reviews/big-bang-simon-singh.htm
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| User: "Malcolm" |
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| Title: Re: Wanted: Book Recommendations |
12 Nov 2004 09:30:38 AM |
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How about taking me on.
The Search for a Loophole to the Beginning of the Universe
in the Big Bang and to the Seeming-Design of Physics
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.LNX.4.10A.B3.10005292327160.25513-100000%40jabba.gl.umbc.edu
Sorry I'm reading Penrose's "Road To Reality", which is quite enough
hard reading for the moment:
http://www.321books.co.uk/reviews/the-road-to-reality-by-roger-penrose.htm
A full account of this, and much else myth-bashing material
in:
http://www.321books.co.uk/reviews/big-bang-simon-singh.htm
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