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"Mr. Maxie P. to the Z to the Y Diddly" |
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21 Nov 2003 12:54:49 AM |
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Re: Was Jesus Christ a Buddhist? |
"penitent leper" <bastaschs@peak.org> wrote in message
news:mu4rrv8rn1pu1ualpi95gdhi4k49ekit9t@4ax.com...
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:51:30 -1000, "Mr. Maxie P. Diddly"
<maxie@diddly.com> wrote:
There is no evidence that Jesus ever existed, either.
Sure there is, indirectly. His brother James is well-attested as
the leader of the Jerusalem Jesus movement. So are Jesus' other
relatives who held that same office in later decades. And Paul
personally knew James, John, and Peter, who in turn knew Jesus and
witnessed his resurrection. Paul was aware of Jesus' historical
life
inasmuch as he could cite Jesus' example as one to follow. In fact
Paul mentions the historical Jesus' "meekness and simplicity" -
which
are psychological attributes of a mortal human being, not Paul's
risen
heavenly Christ. Paul also knew of Jesus' teaching on divorce,
which
he modified. All this and more points to JC's historicity.
These claims have all been debunked, numerous times. There is no
evidence that Jesus ever existed.
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| User: "penitent leper" |
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21 Nov 2003 01:36:53 AM |
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On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:54:49 -1000, "Mr. Maxie P. to the Z to the Y
Diddly" <p2thez1@okalydokalydidly.com> wrote:
"penitent leper" <bastaschs@peak.org> wrote in message
news:mu4rrv8rn1pu1ualpi95gdhi4k49ekit9t@4ax.com...
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:51:30 -1000, "Mr. Maxie P. Diddly"
<maxie@diddly.com> wrote:
There is no evidence that Jesus ever existed, either.
Sure there is, indirectly. His brother James is well-attested as
the leader of the Jerusalem Jesus movement. So are Jesus' other
relatives who held that same office in later decades. And Paul
personally knew James, John, and Peter, who in turn knew Jesus and
witnessed his resurrection. Paul was aware of Jesus' historical
life
inasmuch as he could cite Jesus' example as one to follow. In fact
Paul mentions the historical Jesus' "meekness and simplicity" -
which
are psychological attributes of a mortal human being, not Paul's
risen
heavenly Christ. Paul also knew of Jesus' teaching on divorce,
which
he modified. All this and more points to JC's historicity.
These claims have all been debunked, numerous times. There is no
evidence that Jesus ever existed.
These are not claims, nor have they been debunked. Not one of them.
You're seriously misinformed. I do note, however, that you don't have
any "debunking" data to refute these items point by point, you only
present overconfidence and unsubstantiated claims.
- pl -
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| User: "Mr. Max P. Diddy" |
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21 Nov 2003 01:42:32 AM |
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"penitent leper" <bastaschs@peak.org> wrote in message
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On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:54:49 -1000, "Mr. Maxie P. to the Z to the Y
Diddly" <p2thez1@okalydokalydidly.com> wrote:
"penitent leper" <bastaschs@peak.org> wrote in message
news:mu4rrv8rn1pu1ualpi95gdhi4k49ekit9t@4ax.com...
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:51:30 -1000, "Mr. Maxie P. Diddly"
<maxie@diddly.com> wrote:
There is no evidence that Jesus ever existed, either.
Sure there is, indirectly. His brother James is well-attested
as
the leader of the Jerusalem Jesus movement. So are Jesus' other
relatives who held that same office in later decades. And Paul
personally knew James, John, and Peter, who in turn knew Jesus
and
witnessed his resurrection. Paul was aware of Jesus' historical
life
inasmuch as he could cite Jesus' example as one to follow. In
fact
Paul mentions the historical Jesus' "meekness and simplicity" -
which
are psychological attributes of a mortal human being, not Paul's
risen
heavenly Christ. Paul also knew of Jesus' teaching on divorce,
which
he modified. All this and more points to JC's historicity.
These claims have all been debunked, numerous times. There is no
evidence that Jesus ever existed.
These are not claims, nor have they been debunked. Not one of
them.
All of those claims have been debunked. There is no evidence Jesus
ever existed.
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| User: "m" |
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21 Nov 2003 09:23:46 AM |
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Mr. Max P. Diddy wrote in message ...
All of those claims have been debunked. There is no evidence
Jesus
ever existed.
hmmm....
if you truly believed this, you would not persist in debating the
'fairy tale' of jesus.
your time would be better spent debunking your own 'fairy
tales'...
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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22 Nov 2003 01:21:35 AM |
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On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:23:46 -0500, "m" <m2o@memyself&eye.com> posted
in alt.atheism:
Mr. Max P. Diddy wrote in message ...
All of those claims have been debunked. There is no evidence Jesus
ever existed.
hmmm....
if you truly believed this
Until someone presents objective evidence that Jesus DID exist, all
rational people will "believe this".
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"A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education and social
ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he
had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death."
-Albert Einstein
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
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| User: "d c" |
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22 Nov 2003 02:04:14 AM |
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All of those claims have been debunked. There is no evidence Jesus
ever existed.
You know
You're gonna find out that He's the way
No matter which way you choose
But i pray you
Find out by His love for you
(Keith Green)
--
The Power House
http://www.cafeshops.com/powerpress
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| User: "Phylter" |
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22 Nov 2003 04:54:34 AM |
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"d c" <nospam@invalid.com> astounded us with: news:1MEvb.10951$yM6.3288
@lakeread06:
All of those claims have been debunked. There is no evidence Jesus
ever existed.
You know
You're gonna find out that He's the way
No matter which way you choose
But i pray you
Find out by His love for you
(Keith Green)
Yes, very good, got any more??
Sorry, I was overwhelmed by sarcasm just then.
--
Phylter
Denizen of Darkness #44 & AFJC Antipodean Attaché
http://www.rudraigh.com/afjc/regulars.html
Change "no-way" to "hotmail" to respond
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| User: "Nevermore" |
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22 Nov 2003 10:27:23 PM |
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In <1MEvb.10951$yM6.3288@lakeread06> d c wrote:
All of those claims have been debunked. There is no evidence Jesus
ever existed.
You know
You're gonna find out that He's the way
No matter which way you choose
But i pray you
Find out by His love for you
(Keith Green)
Roses are red
Violets are blue
If God's an omnipotent diety
Why does he issue threats thru you?
Nevermore
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| User: "Hecate100" |
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23 Nov 2003 06:04:13 PM |
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"Nevermore" <burned@thestake.net> wrote in message
news:20031122232631982-0500@news.valley.net...
In <1MEvb.10951$yM6.3288@lakeread06> d c wrote:
All of those claims have been debunked. There is no evidence Jesus
ever existed.
You know
You're gonna find out that He's the way
No matter which way you choose
But i pray you
Find out by His love for you
(Keith Green)
Roses are red
Violets are blue
If God's an omnipotent diety
Why does he issue threats thru you?
Nevermore
Wow, that's better than all of Will/Ironywaves' ripe steamers. Maybe you
should tutor him? *evil cackle*
Love & Laughter,
Nightshade
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| User: "Shez" |
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23 Nov 2003 12:54:59 PM |
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In article <20031122232631982-0500@news.valley.net>, Nevermore
<burned@thestake.net> writes
In <1MEvb.10951$yM6.3288@lakeread06> d c wrote:
All of those claims have been debunked. There is no evidence Jesus
ever existed.
You know
You're gonna find out that He's the way
No matter which way you choose
But i pray you
Find out by His love for you
(Keith Green)
Roses are red
Violets are blue
If God's an omnipotent diety
Why does he issue threats thru you?
Nevermore
Hey, clap, clap, the poet laureate award is yours. :)
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Shez
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22 Nov 2003 11:30:44 AM |
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In article <1MEvb.10951$yM6.3288@lakeread06>, d c <nospam@invalid.com>
writes
All of those claims have been debunked. There is no evidence Jesus
ever existed.
You know
You're gonna find out that He's the way
No matter which way you choose
But i pray you
Find out by His love for you
(Keith Green)
Grow up, were not children to be frightened by the bogey man in heaven.
Most of us have a better understanding and have done far more research
on your religion than any of you Christians have, and we have found it
wanting, to say the least,
You believe your fairy tales, leave the real thinking to the adults.
--
Shez
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| User: "penitent leper" |
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22 Nov 2003 01:02:09 PM |
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On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:30:44 +0000, Shez <shez@oldcity.f2s.com> wrote:
In article <1MEvb.10951$yM6.3288@lakeread06>, d c <nospam@invalid.com>
writes
All of those claims have been debunked. There is no evidence Jesus
ever existed.
You know
You're gonna find out that He's the way
No matter which way you choose
But i pray you
Find out by His love for you
(Keith Green)
Grow up, were not children to be frightened by the bogey man in heaven.
Grow up, we are not children to be frightened by the Bogey Man Of
Skeptic Land (TM).
Most of us have a better understanding
Not you, for sure.
and have done far more research
None of which you display.
on your religion than any of you Christians have,
What Christians? I, for instance, belong to no religion, and it's
clear to me that JC existed.
And your Christian readers are expected to take it on faith alone
that you know more than they do?
and we have found it
wanting, to say the least,
Is "it" wanting, or is your education lacking and your research
inept?
You believe your fairy tales,
You believe in your skeptitard fairy tales,
leave the real thinking to the adults.
leave the real thinking to informed intellects.
It's always hilarious to read "skeptical
reductionist/rationalists" who accuse non-atheists of immaturity, when
in fact, it's so frequently the skeptos who are stuck in the
adolescent phase of mental development - complete with attitudes of
teenage rebellion.
- pl -
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| User: "Shez" |
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22 Nov 2003 03:18:09 PM |
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In article <t7cvrvc8vs1tgvfpvs8f9iq5cgjjosunek@4ax.com>, penitent leper
<bastaschs@peak.org> writes
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:30:44 +0000, Shez < > wrote:
In article <1MEvb.10951$yM6.3288@lakeread06>, d c <nospam@invalid.com>
writes
All of those claims have been debunked. There is no evidence Jesus
ever existed.
You know
You're gonna find out that He's the way
No matter which way you choose
But i pray you
Find out by His love for you
(Keith Green)
Grow up, were not children to be frightened by the bogey man in heaven.
Grow up, we are not children to be frightened by the Bogey Man Of
Skeptic Land (TM).
Most of us have a better understanding
Not you, for sure.
and have done far more research
None of which you display.
on your religion than any of you Christians have,
What Christians? I, for instance, belong to no religion, and it's
clear to me that JC existed.
And your Christian readers are expected to take it on faith alone
that you know more than they do?
and we have found it
wanting, to say the least,
Is "it" wanting, or is your education lacking and your research
inept?
You believe your fairy tales,
You believe in your skeptitard fairy tales,
leave the real thinking to the adults.
leave the real thinking to informed intellects.
It's always hilarious to read "skeptical
reductionist/rationalists" who accuse non-atheists of immaturity, when
in fact, it's so frequently the skeptos who are stuck in the
adolescent phase of mental development - complete with attitudes of
teenage rebellion.
- pl -
Oh you have made my day, I wont bother telling you how silly you are,
But I am posting from alt wicca, which might give you some idea.
Thank you for proving that stupidity is not dead. Its still living and
breeding in your house.
--
Shez
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| User: "penitent leper" |
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22 Nov 2003 08:01:43 PM |
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On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:18:09 +0000, Shez <shez@oldcity.f2s.com> wrote:
In article <t7cvrvc8vs1tgvfpvs8f9iq5cgjjosunek@4ax.com>, penitent leper
<bastaschs@peak.org> writes
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:30:44 +0000, Shez <shez@oldcity.f2s.com> wrote:
In article <1MEvb.10951$yM6.3288@lakeread06>, d c <nospam@invalid.com>
writes
All of those claims have been debunked. There is no evidence Jesus
ever existed.
You know
You're gonna find out that He's the way
No matter which way you choose
But i pray you
Find out by His love for you
(Keith Green)
Grow up, were not children to be frightened by the bogey man in heaven.
Grow up, we are not children to be frightened by the Bogey Man Of
Skeptic Land (TM).
Most of us have a better understanding
Not you, for sure.
and have done far more research
None of which you display.
on your religion than any of you Christians have,
What Christians? I, for instance, belong to no religion, and it's
clear to me that JC existed.
And your Christian readers are expected to take it on faith alone
that you know more than they do?
and we have found it
wanting, to say the least,
Is "it" wanting, or is your education lacking and your research
inept?
You believe your fairy tales,
You believe in your skeptitard fairy tales,
leave the real thinking to the adults.
leave the real thinking to informed intellects.
It's always hilarious to read "skeptical
reductionist/rationalists" who accuse non-atheists of immaturity, when
in fact, it's so frequently the skeptos who are stuck in the
adolescent phase of mental development - complete with attitudes of
teenage rebellion.
- pl -
Oh you have made my day, I wont bother telling you how silly you are,
But I am posting from alt wicca, which might give you some idea.
Thank you for proving that stupidity is not dead. Its still living and
breeding in your house.
"Stupidity" makes your day, huh. That explains your reply.
PLONK.
- pl -
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| User: "Nevermore" |
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22 Nov 2003 10:20:41 PM |
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In <f650svoqd6rf1176i3be6rs7kbfn9o7nt5@4ax.com> penitent leper wrote:
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:18:09 +0000, Shez <shez@oldcity.f2s.com> wrote:
In article <t7cvrvc8vs1tgvfpvs8f9iq5cgjjosunek@4ax.com>, penitent
leper <bastaschs@peak.org> writes
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:30:44 +0000, Shez <shez@oldcity.f2s.com> wrote:
In article <1MEvb.10951$yM6.3288@lakeread06>, d c <nospam@invalid.
com> writes
All of those claims have been debunked. There is no evidence
Jesus ever existed.
You know
You're gonna find out that He's the way
No matter which way you choose
But i pray you
Find out by His love for you
(Keith Green)
Grow up, were not children to be frightened by the bogey man in
heaven.
Grow up, we are not children to be frightened by the Bogey Man Of
Skeptic Land (TM).
Most of us have a better understanding
Not you, for sure.
and have done far more research
None of which you display.
on your religion than any of you Christians have,
What Christians? I, for instance, belong to no religion, and it's
clear to me that JC existed.
And your Christian readers are expected to take it on faith alone
that you know more than they do?
and we have found it
wanting, to say the least,
Is "it" wanting, or is your education lacking and your research
inept?
You believe your fairy tales,
You believe in your skeptitard fairy tales,
leave the real thinking to the adults.
leave the real thinking to informed intellects.
It's always hilarious to read "skeptical
reductionist/rationalists" who accuse non-atheists of immaturity,
when in fact, it's so frequently the skeptos who are stuck in the
adolescent phase of mental development - complete with attitudes of
teenage rebellion.
- pl -
Oh you have made my day, I wont bother telling you how silly you are,
But I am posting from alt wicca, which might give you some idea.
Thank you for proving that stupidity is not dead. Its still living and
breeding in your house.
"Stupidity" makes your day, huh. That explains your reply.
PLONK.
- pl -
Good shot Shez!
The head of Penitent Leper is hereby awarded to Shez. Pike it proudly.
Nevermore (wondering how these idiots made it 2,000 years and then
remembering what a royal screw up it all actually was...)
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| User: "Shez" |
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23 Nov 2003 12:54:51 PM |
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In article <20031122231950229-0500@news.valley.net>, Nevermore
<burned@thestake.net> writes
In <f650svoqd6rf1176i3be6rs7kbfn9o7nt5@4ax.com> penitent leper wrote:
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 21:18:09 +0000, Shez < > wrote:
In article <t7cvrvc8vs1tgvfpvs8f9iq5cgjjosunek@4ax.com>, penitent
leper <bastaschs@peak.org> writes
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:30:44 +0000, Shez < > wrote:
In article <1MEvb.10951$yM6.3288@lakeread06>, d c <nospam@invalid.
com> writes
All of those claims have been debunked. There is no evidence
Jesus ever existed.
You know
You're gonna find out that He's the way
No matter which way you choose
But i pray you
Find out by His love for you
(Keith Green)
Grow up, were not children to be frightened by the bogey man in
heaven.
Grow up, we are not children to be frightened by the Bogey Man Of
Skeptic Land (TM).
Most of us have a better understanding
Not you, for sure.
and have done far more research
None of which you display.
on your religion than any of you Christians have,
What Christians? I, for instance, belong to no religion, and it's
clear to me that JC existed.
And your Christian readers are expected to take it on faith alone
that you know more than they do?
and we have found it
wanting, to say the least,
Is "it" wanting, or is your education lacking and your research
inept?
You believe your fairy tales,
You believe in your skeptitard fairy tales,
leave the real thinking to the adults.
leave the real thinking to informed intellects.
It's always hilarious to read "skeptical
reductionist/rationalists" who accuse non-atheists of immaturity,
when in fact, it's so frequently the skeptos who are stuck in the
adolescent phase of mental development - complete with attitudes of
teenage rebellion.
- pl -
Oh you have made my day, I wont bother telling you how silly you are,
But I am posting from alt wicca, which might give you some idea.
Thank you for proving that stupidity is not dead. Its still living and
breeding in your house.
"Stupidity" makes your day, huh. That explains your reply.
PLONK.
- pl -
Good shot Shez!
The head of Penitent Leper is hereby awarded to Shez. Pike it proudly.
Nevermore (wondering how these idiots made it 2,000 years and then
remembering what a royal screw up it all actually was...)
Wow two heads on pikes, I wont have any trouble with the missionary's
now, However I have had some trouble with dogs.. For some reason they
keep coming up and trying to pull the pike down, I don't know if they
want to bury the head or eat it :)
I wonder sometimes about the lack of intelligence these people show, is
it just inbreeding, or is it something in the bible that has the effect
of stupefying their brains.
--
Shez
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| User: "m" |
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22 Nov 2003 01:46:18 PM |
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penitent leper wrote in message ...
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:30:44 +0000, Shez <shez@oldcity.f2s.com>
wrote:
In article <1MEvb.10951$yM6.3288@lakeread06>, d c
<nospam@invalid.com>
writes
All of those claims have been debunked. There is no evidence
Jesus
ever existed.
You know
You're gonna find out that He's the way
No matter which way you choose
But i pray you
Find out by His love for you
(Keith Green)
Grow up, were not children to be frightened by the bogey man in
heaven.
Grow up, we are not children to be frightened by the Bogey Man
Of
Skeptic Land (TM).
Most of us have a better understanding
Not you, for sure.
and have done far more research
None of which you display.
on your religion than any of you Christians have,
What Christians? I, for instance, belong to no religion, and
it's
clear to me that JC existed.
And your Christian readers are expected to take it on faith
alone
that you know more than they do?
and we have found it
wanting, to say the least,
Is "it" wanting, or is your education lacking and your
research
inept?
You believe your fairy tales,
You believe in your skeptitard fairy tales,
leave the real thinking to the adults.
leave the real thinking to informed intellects.
It's always hilarious to read "skeptical
reductionist/rationalists" who accuse non-atheists of
immaturity, when
in fact, it's so frequently the skeptos who are stuck in the
adolescent phase of mental development - complete with attitudes
of
teenage rebellion.
he is none better than the 'christians' which he is driven to
despise... attempting to force his own delusions onto others...
hiding behind thinly particulated 'research'.
'self hatred' appears to be his curse...
- pl -
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| User: "Shez" |
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22 Nov 2003 03:17:40 PM |
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In article <3fbfbd1c_1@news.iglou.com>, m <m2o@memyself&eye.com> writes
penitent leper wrote in message ...
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:30:44 +0000, Shez < >
wrote:
In article <1MEvb.10951$yM6.3288@lakeread06>, d c
<nospam@invalid.com>
writes
All of those claims have been debunked. There is no evidence
Jesus
ever existed.
You know
You're gonna find out that He's the way
No matter which way you choose
But i pray you
Find out by His love for you
(Keith Green)
Grow up, were not children to be frightened by the bogey man in
heaven.
Grow up, we are not children to be frightened by the Bogey Man
Of
Skeptic Land (TM).
Most of us have a better understanding
Not you, for sure.
and have done far more research
None of which you display.
on your religion than any of you Christians have,
What Christians? I, for instance, belong to no religion, and
it's
clear to me that JC existed.
And your Christian readers are expected to take it on faith
alone
that you know more than they do?
and we have found it
wanting, to say the least,
Is "it" wanting, or is your education lacking and your
research
inept?
You believe your fairy tales,
You believe in your skeptitard fairy tales,
leave the real thinking to the adults.
leave the real thinking to informed intellects.
It's always hilarious to read "skeptical
reductionist/rationalists" who accuse non-atheists of
immaturity, when
in fact, it's so frequently the skeptos who are stuck in the
adolescent phase of mental development - complete with attitudes
of
teenage rebellion.
he is none better than the 'christians' which he is driven to
despise... attempting to force his own delusions onto others...
hiding behind thinly particulated 'research'.
'self hatred' appears to be his curse...
Have you considered education... it might in fact help you to articulate
some of your childish ideas.
- pl -
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Shez
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| User: "m" |
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22 Nov 2003 04:01:22 PM |
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Shez wrote in message ...
In article <3fbfbd1c_1@news.iglou.com>, m <m2o@memyself&eye.com>
writes
penitent leper wrote in message ...
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:30:44 +0000, Shez
<shez@oldcity.f2s.com>
wrote:
In article <1MEvb.10951$yM6.3288@lakeread06>, d c
<nospam@invalid.com>
writes
All of those claims have been debunked. There is no
evidence
Jesus
ever existed.
You know
You're gonna find out that He's the way
No matter which way you choose
But i pray you
Find out by His love for you
(Keith Green)
Grow up, were not children to be frightened by the bogey man
in
heaven.
Grow up, we are not children to be frightened by the Bogey
Man
Of
Skeptic Land (TM).
Most of us have a better understanding
Not you, for sure.
and have done far more research
None of which you display.
on your religion than any of you Christians have,
What Christians? I, for instance, belong to no religion,
and
it's
clear to me that JC existed.
And your Christian readers are expected to take it on faith
alone
that you know more than they do?
and we have found it
wanting, to say the least,
Is "it" wanting, or is your education lacking and your
research
inept?
You believe your fairy tales,
You believe in your skeptitard fairy tales,
leave the real thinking to the adults.
leave the real thinking to informed intellects.
It's always hilarious to read "skeptical
reductionist/rationalists" who accuse non-atheists of
immaturity, when
in fact, it's so frequently the skeptos who are stuck in the
adolescent phase of mental development - complete with
attitudes
of
teenage rebellion.
he is none better than the 'christians' which he is driven to
despise... attempting to force his own delusions onto others...
hiding behind thinly particulated 'research'.
'self hatred' appears to be his curse...
Have you considered education... it might in fact help you to
articulate
some of your childish ideas.
thank you, my 'wiccan' friend.
since you appear to find my articulations lacking.... i would
first point out ... upon immediate observation... that you, in
all probability are the one lacking in proper education as i
described with precise, straightforward, unadulterated english my
direct perceptions based on the extremely subjective nature of
the subject at hand.
.
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| User: "Shez" |
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| Title: Re: self hatred....(Re: Was Jesus Christ a fairy tale? |
22 Nov 2003 04:59:35 PM |
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In article <3fbfdcc7_1@news.iglou.com>, m <m2o@memyself&eye.com> writes
Shez wrote in message ...
In article <3fbfbd1c_1@news.iglou.com>, m <m2o@memyself&eye.com>
writes
penitent leper wrote in message ...
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:30:44 +0000, Shez
< >
wrote:
In article <1MEvb.10951$yM6.3288@lakeread06>, d c
<nospam@invalid.com>
writes
All of those claims have been debunked. There is no
evidence
Jesus
ever existed.
You know
You're gonna find out that He's the way
No matter which way you choose
But i pray you
Find out by His love for you
(Keith Green)
Grow up, were not children to be frightened by the bogey man
in
heaven.
Grow up, we are not children to be frightened by the Bogey
Man
Of
Skeptic Land (TM).
Most of us have a better understanding
Not you, for sure.
and have done far more research
None of which you display.
on your religion than any of you Christians have,
What Christians? I, for instance, belong to no religion,
and
it's
clear to me that JC existed.
And your Christian readers are expected to take it on faith
alone
that you know more than they do?
and we have found it
wanting, to say the least,
Is "it" wanting, or is your education lacking and your
research
inept?
You believe your fairy tales,
You believe in your skeptitard fairy tales,
leave the real thinking to the adults.
leave the real thinking to informed intellects.
It's always hilarious to read "skeptical
reductionist/rationalists" who accuse non-atheists of
immaturity, when
in fact, it's so frequently the skeptos who are stuck in the
adolescent phase of mental development - complete with
attitudes
of
teenage rebellion.
he is none better than the 'christians' which he is driven to
despise... attempting to force his own delusions onto others...
hiding behind thinly particulated 'research'.
'self hatred' appears to be his curse...
Have you considered education... it might in fact help you to
articulate
some of your childish ideas.
thank you, my 'wiccan' friend.
since you appear to find my articulations lacking.... i would
first point out ... upon immediate observation... that you, in
all probability are the one lacking in proper education as i
described with precise, straightforward, unadulterated english my
direct perceptions based on the extremely subjective nature of
the subject at hand.
(Chuckle) I am not wiccan, want to guess again... you get three and then
I turn you into a Brussels sprout.
Don't swallow a dictionary next time you reply it begins to look a
little obvious.
Unadulterated English... my that is comical.....how many other tongues
were involved in creating the English language do you suppose.
English in the twenty first century is full of bit and odds and ends
from just about every country on earth, from Char... India, to Home boy,
America... adulterated would be nearer the mark.
No one speaks unadulterated English, it doesn't actually exist. :)
--
Shez
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| User: "m" |
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| Title: Re: self hatred....(Re: Was Jesus Christ a fairy tale? |
22 Nov 2003 05:25:34 PM |
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Shez wrote in message ...
In article <3fbfdcc7_1@news.iglou.com>, m <m2o@memyself&eye.com>
writes
Shez wrote in message ...
In article <3fbfbd1c_1@news.iglou.com>, m
<m2o@memyself&eye.com>
writes
penitent leper wrote in message ...
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:30:44 +0000, Shez
<shez@oldcity.f2s.com>
wrote:
In article <1MEvb.10951$yM6.3288@lakeread06>, d c
<nospam@invalid.com>
writes
All of those claims have been debunked. There is no
evidence
Jesus
ever existed.
You know
You're gonna find out that He's the way
No matter which way you choose
But i pray you
Find out by His love for you
(Keith Green)
Grow up, were not children to be frightened by the bogey
man
in
heaven.
Grow up, we are not children to be frightened by the Bogey
Man
Of
Skeptic Land (TM).
Most of us have a better understanding
Not you, for sure.
and have done far more research
None of which you display.
on your religion than any of you Christians have,
What Christians? I, for instance, belong to no religion,
and
it's
clear to me that JC existed.
And your Christian readers are expected to take it on
faith
alone
that you know more than they do?
and we have found it
wanting, to say the least,
Is "it" wanting, or is your education lacking and your
research
inept?
You believe your fairy tales,
You believe in your skeptitard fairy tales,
leave the real thinking to the adults.
leave the real thinking to informed intellects.
It's always hilarious to read "skeptical
reductionist/rationalists" who accuse non-atheists of
immaturity, when
in fact, it's so frequently the skeptos who are stuck in the
adolescent phase of mental development - complete with
attitudes
of
teenage rebellion.
he is none better than the 'christians' which he is driven to
despise... attempting to force his own delusions onto
others...
hiding behind thinly particulated 'research'.
'self hatred' appears to be his curse...
Have you considered education... it might in fact help you to
articulate
some of your childish ideas.
thank you, my 'wiccan' friend.
since you appear to find my articulations lacking.... i would
first point out ... upon immediate observation... that you, in
all probability are the one lacking in proper education as i
described with precise, straightforward, unadulterated english
my
direct perceptions based on the extremely subjective nature of
the subject at hand.
(Chuckle) I am not wiccan, want to guess again... you get three
and then
I turn you into a Brussels sprout.
Don't swallow a dictionary next time you reply it begins to look
a
little obvious.
Unadulterated English... my that is comical.....how many other
tongues
were involved in creating the English language do you suppose.
English in the twenty first century is full of bit and odds and
ends
from just about every country on earth, from Char... India, to
Home boy,
America... adulterated would be nearer the mark.
No one speaks unadulterated English, it doesn't actually exist.
:)
well, at least you have a sense of humor. :)
but you're mistaken about one thing in particular...
i don' need no steenkin' dictionary to throw such simple words to
you.
maybe it's you that needs one... to comprehend what i say?
don't make me turn you into an english teacher...
:)
.
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| User: "Shez" |
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| Title: Re: self hatred....(Re: Was Jesus Christ a fairy tale? |
22 Nov 2003 06:47:46 PM |
|
|
In article <3fbff080_1@news.iglou.com>, m <m2o@memyself&eye.com> writes
Shez wrote in message ...
In article <3fbfdcc7_1@news.iglou.com>, m <m2o@memyself&eye.com>
writes
Shez wrote in message ...
In article <3fbfbd1c_1@news.iglou.com>, m
<m2o@memyself&eye.com>
writes
penitent leper wrote in message ...
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:30:44 +0000, Shez
< >
wrote:
In article <1MEvb.10951$yM6.3288@lakeread06>, d c
<nospam@invalid.com>
writes
All of those claims have been debunked. There is no
evidence
Jesus
ever existed.
You know
You're gonna find out that He's the way
No matter which way you choose
But i pray you
Find out by His love for you
(Keith Green)
Grow up, were not children to be frightened by the bogey
man
in
heaven.
Grow up, we are not children to be frightened by the Bogey
Man
Of
Skeptic Land (TM).
Most of us have a better understanding
Not you, for sure.
and have done far more research
None of which you display.
on your religion than any of you Christians have,
What Christians? I, for instance, belong to no religion,
and
it's
clear to me that JC existed.
And your Christian readers are expected to take it on
faith
alone
that you know more than they do?
and we have found it
wanting, to say the least,
Is "it" wanting, or is your education lacking and your
research
inept?
You believe your fairy tales,
You believe in your skeptitard fairy tales,
leave the real thinking to the adults.
leave the real thinking to informed intellects.
It's always hilarious to read "skeptical
reductionist/rationalists" who accuse non-atheists of
immaturity, when
in fact, it's so frequently the skeptos who are stuck in the
adolescent phase of mental development - complete with
attitudes
of
teenage rebellion.
he is none better than the 'christians' which he is driven to
despise... attempting to force his own delusions onto
others...
hiding behind thinly particulated 'research'.
'self hatred' appears to be his curse...
Have you considered education... it might in fact help you to
articulate
some of your childish ideas.
thank you, my 'wiccan' friend.
since you appear to find my articulations lacking.... i would
first point out ... upon immediate observation... that you, in
all probability are the one lacking in proper education as i
described with precise, straightforward, unadulterated english
my
direct perceptions based on the extremely subjective nature of
the subject at hand.
(Chuckle) I am not wiccan, want to guess again... you get three
and then
I turn you into a Brussels sprout.
Don't swallow a dictionary next time you reply it begins to look
a
little obvious.
Unadulterated English... my that is comical.....how many other
tongues
were involved in creating the English language do you suppose.
English in the twenty first century is full of bit and odds and
ends
from just about every country on earth, from Char... India, to
Home boy,
America... adulterated would be nearer the mark.
No one speaks unadulterated English, it doesn't actually exist.
:)
well, at least you have a sense of humor. :)
but you're mistaken about one thing in particular...
i don' need no steenkin' dictionary to throw such simple words to
you.
maybe it's you that needs one... to comprehend what i say?
don't make me turn you into an english teacher...
:)
Turn me into an English teacher, me the terror of English teachers,
not a chance, I would sooner be a nun....
Hmmm don't they have to be virgins...
Temple dancer then. :)
--
Shez
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| User: "m" |
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| Title: Re: self hatred....(Re: Was Jesus Christ a fairy tale? |
22 Nov 2003 07:09:42 PM |
|
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Shez wrote in message ...
In article <3fbff080_1@news.iglou.com>, m <m2o@memyself&eye.com>
writes
Shez wrote in message ...
In article <3fbfdcc7_1@news.iglou.com>, m
<m2o@memyself&eye.com>
writes
Shez wrote in message ...
In article <3fbfbd1c_1@news.iglou.com>, m
<m2o@memyself&eye.com>
writes
penitent leper wrote in message ...
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:30:44 +0000, Shez
< >
wrote:
In article <1MEvb.10951$yM6.3288@lakeread06>, d c
<nospam@invalid.com>
writes
All of those claims have been debunked. There is no
evidence
Jesus
ever existed.
You know
You're gonna find out that He's the way
No matter which way you choose
But i pray you
Find out by His love for you
(Keith Green)
Grow up, were not children to be frightened by the bogey
man
in
heaven.
Grow up, we are not children to be frightened by the
Bogey
Man
Of
Skeptic Land (TM).
Most of us have a better understanding
Not you, for sure.
and have done far more research
None of which you display.
on your religion than any of you Christians have,
What Christians? I, for instance, belong to no
religion,
and
it's
clear to me that JC existed.
And your Christian readers are expected to take it on
faith
alone
that you know more than they do?
and we have found it
wanting, to say the least,
Is "it" wanting, or is your education lacking and your
research
inept?
You believe your fairy tales,
You believe in your skeptitard fairy tales,
leave the real thinking to the adults.
leave the real thinking to informed intellects.
It's always hilarious to read "skeptical
reductionist/rationalists" who accuse non-atheists of
immaturity, when
in fact, it's so frequently the skeptos who are stuck in
the
adolescent phase of mental development - complete with
attitudes
of
teenage rebellion.
he is none better than the 'christians' which he is driven
to
despise... attempting to force his own delusions onto
others...
hiding behind thinly particulated 'research'.
'self hatred' appears to be his curse...
Have you considered education... it might in fact help you
to
articulate
some of your childish ideas.
thank you, my 'wiccan' friend.
since you appear to find my articulations lacking.... i would
first point out ... upon immediate observation... that you,
in
all probability are the one lacking in proper education as i
described with precise, straightforward, unadulterated
english
my
direct perceptions based on the extremely subjective nature
of
the subject at hand.
(Chuckle) I am not wiccan, want to guess again... you get
three
and then
I turn you into a Brussels sprout.
Don't swallow a dictionary next time you reply it begins to
look
a
little obvious.
Unadulterated English... my that is comical.....how many other
tongues
were involved in creating the English language do you suppose.
English in the twenty first century is full of bit and odds
and
ends
from just about every country on earth, from Char... India, to
Home boy,
America... adulterated would be nearer the mark.
No one speaks unadulterated English, it doesn't actually
exist.
:)
well, at least you have a sense of humor. :)
but you're mistaken about one thing in particular...
i don' need no steenkin' dictionary to throw such simple words
to
you.
maybe it's you that needs one... to comprehend what i say?
don't make me turn you into an english teacher...
:)
Turn me into an English teacher, me the terror of English
teachers,
not a chance, I would sooner be a nun....
Hmmm don't they have to be virgins...
Temple dancer then. :)
ok.. you're a temple dancer!
and a fine one at that...
:)
--
Shez
.
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| User: "Shez" |
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| Title: Re: self hatred....(Re: Was Jesus Christ a fairy tale? |
22 Nov 2003 07:18:36 PM |
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In article <3fc008e8_1@news.iglou.com>, m <m2o@memyself&eye.com> writes
Shez wrote in message ...
In article <3fbff080_1@news.iglou.com>, m <m2o@memyself&eye.com>
writes
Shez wrote in message ...
In article <3fbfdcc7_1@news.iglou.com>, m
<m2o@memyself&eye.com>
writes
Shez wrote in message ...
In article <3fbfbd1c_1@news.iglou.com>, m
<m2o@memyself&eye.com>
writes
penitent leper wrote in message ...
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:30:44 +0000, Shez
< >
wrote:
In article <1MEvb.10951$yM6.3288@lakeread06>, d c
<nospam@invalid.com>
writes
All of those claims have been debunked. There is no
evidence
Jesus
ever existed.
You know
You're gonna find out that He's the way
No matter which way you choose
But i pray you
Find out by His love for you
(Keith Green)
Grow up, were not children to be frightened by the bogey
man
in
heaven.
Grow up, we are not children to be frightened by the
Bogey
Man
Of
Skeptic Land (TM).
Most of us have a better understanding
Not you, for sure.
and have done far more research
None of which you display.
on your religion than any of you Christians have,
What Christians? I, for instance, belong to no
religion,
and
it's
clear to me that JC existed.
And your Christian readers are expected to take it on
faith
alone
that you know more than they do?
and we have found it
wanting, to say the least,
Is "it" wanting, or is your education lacking and your
research
inept?
You believe your fairy tales,
You believe in your skeptitard fairy tales,
leave the real thinking to the adults.
leave the real thinking to informed intellects.
It's always hilarious to read "skeptical
reductionist/rationalists" who accuse non-atheists of
immaturity, when
in fact, it's so frequently the skeptos who are stuck in
the
adolescent phase of mental development - complete with
attitudes
of
teenage rebellion.
he is none better than the 'christians' which he is driven
to
despise... attempting to force his own delusions onto
others...
hiding behind thinly particulated 'research'.
'self hatred' appears to be his curse...
Have you considered education... it might in fact help you
to
articulate
some of your childish ideas.
thank you, my 'wiccan' friend.
since you appear to find my articulations lacking.... i would
first point out ... upon immediate observation... that you,
in
all probability are the one lacking in proper education as i
described with precise, straightforward, unadulterated
english
my
direct perceptions based on the extremely subjective nature
of
the subject at hand.
(Chuckle) I am not wiccan, want to guess again... you get
three
and then
I turn you into a Brussels sprout.
Don't swallow a dictionary next time you reply it begins to
look
a
little obvious.
Unadulterated English... my that is comical.....how many other
tongues
were involved in creating the English language do you suppose.
English in the twenty first century is full of bit and odds
and
ends
from just about every country on earth, from Char... India, to
Home boy,
America... adulterated would be nearer the mark.
No one speaks unadulterated English, it doesn't actually
exist.
:)
well, at least you have a sense of humor. :)
but you're mistaken about one thing in particular...
i don' need no steenkin' dictionary to throw such simple words
to
you.
maybe it's you that needs one... to comprehend what i say?
don't make me turn you into an english teacher...
:)
Turn me into an English teacher, me the terror of English
teachers,
not a chance, I would sooner be a nun....
Hmmm don't they have to be virgins...
Temple dancer then. :)
ok.. you're a temple dancer!
and a fine one at that...
:)
Naturally, ..... :)
--
Shez
--
Shez
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| User: "Chan Fu" |
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| Title: Re: self hatred....(Re: Was Jesus Christ a fairy tale? |
22 Nov 2003 07:20:23 PM |
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m wrote:
Shez wrote in message ...
<riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiP!>
Turn me into an English teacher, me the terror of English
teachers,
not a chance, I would sooner be a nun....
Hmmm don't they have to be virgins...
Temple dancer then. :)
ok.. you're a temple dancer!
and a fine one at that...
:)
cat burglar?
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| User: "penitent leper" |
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| Title: Re: self hatred....(Re: Was Jesus Christ a fairy tale? |
22 Nov 2003 08:06:41 PM |
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On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:01:22 -0500, "m" <m2o@memyself&eye.com> wrote:
Shez wrote in message ...
In article <3fbfbd1c_1@news.iglou.com>, m <m2o@memyself&eye.com>
writes
penitent leper wrote in message ...
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:30:44 +0000, Shez
<shez@oldcity.f2s.com>
wrote:
In article <1MEvb.10951$yM6.3288@lakeread06>, d c
<nospam@invalid.com>
writes
All of those claims have been debunked. There is no
evidence
Jesus
ever existed.
You know
You're gonna find out that He's the way
No matter which way you choose
But i pray you
Find out by His love for you
(Keith Green)
Grow up, were not children to be frightened by the bogey man
in
heaven.
Grow up, we are not children to be frightened by the Bogey
Man
Of
Skeptic Land (TM).
Most of us have a better understanding
Not you, for sure.
and have done far more research
None of which you display.
on your religion than any of you Christians have,
What Christians? I, for instance, belong to no religion,
and
it's
clear to me that JC existed.
And your Christian readers are expected to take it on faith
alone
that you know more than they do?
and we have found it
wanting, to say the least,
Is "it" wanting, or is your education lacking and your
research
inept?
You believe your fairy tales,
You believe in your skeptitard fairy tales,
leave the real thinking to the adults.
leave the real thinking to informed intellects.
It's always hilarious to read "skeptical
reductionist/rationalists" who accuse non-atheists of
immaturity, when
in fact, it's so frequently the skeptos who are stuck in the
adolescent phase of mental development - complete with
attitudes
of
teenage rebellion.
he is none better than the 'christians' which he is driven to
despise... attempting to force his own delusions onto others...
hiding behind thinly particulated 'research'.
'self hatred' appears to be his curse...
Have you considered education... it might in fact help you to
articulate
some of your childish ideas.
thank you, my 'wiccan' friend.
since you appear to find my articulations lacking.... i would
first point out ... upon immediate observation... that you, in
all probability are the one lacking in proper education as i
described with precise, straightforward, unadulterated english my
direct perceptions based on the extremely subjective nature of
the subject at hand.
Shez's brain has been subsumed into the grosser hormonal functions.
Since Shez has no valid critique to offer, only nasty ad hominems, why
bother to reply? I've happily killfiled the silly git. No loss. Out
of sight, out of mind.
- pl -
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| User: "Shez" |
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| Title: Re: self hatred....(Re: Was Jesus Christ a fairy tale? |
22 Nov 2003 08:47:51 PM |
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In article <ac50svgmf6s6c0o65msqcijjo0reb10c31@4ax.com>, penitent leper
<bastaschs@peak.org> writes
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:01:22 -0500, "m" <m2o@memyself&eye.com> wrote:
Shez wrote in message ...
In article <3fbfbd1c_1@news.iglou.com>, m <m2o@memyself&eye.com>
writes
penitent leper wrote in message ...
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:30:44 +0000, Shez
< >
wrote:
In article <1MEvb.10951$yM6.3288@lakeread06>, d c
<nospam@invalid.com>
writes
All of those claims have been debunked. There is no
evidence
Jesus
ever existed.
You know
You're gonna find out that He's the way
No matter which way you choose
But i pray you
Find out by His love for you
(Keith Green)
Grow up, were not children to be frightened by the bogey man
in
heaven.
Grow up, we are not children to be frightened by the Bogey
Man
Of
Skeptic Land (TM).
Most of us have a better understanding
Not you, for sure.
and have done far more research
None of which you display.
on your religion than any of you Christians have,
What Christians? I, for instance, belong to no religion,
and
it's
clear to me that JC existed.
And your Christian readers are expected to take it on faith
alone
that you know more than they do?
and we have found it
wanting, to say the least,
Is "it" wanting, or is your education lacking and your
research
inept?
You believe your fairy tales,
You believe in your skeptitard fairy tales,
leave the real thinking to the adults.
leave the real thinking to informed intellects.
It's always hilarious to read "skeptical
reductionist/rationalists" who accuse non-atheists of
immaturity, when
in fact, it's so frequently the skeptos who are stuck in the
adolescent phase of mental development - complete with
attitudes
of
teenage rebellion.
he is none better than the 'christians' which he is driven to
despise... attempting to force his own delusions onto others...
hiding behind thinly particulated 'research'.
'self hatred' appears to be his curse...
Have you considered education... it might in fact help you to
articulate
some of your childish ideas.
thank you, my 'wiccan' friend.
since you appear to find my articulations lacking.... i would
first point out ... upon immediate observation... that you, in
all probability are the one lacking in proper education as i
described with precise, straightforward, unadulterated english my
direct perceptions based on the extremely subjective nature of
the subject at hand.
Shez's brain has been subsumed into the grosser hormonal functions.
Since Shez has no valid critique to offer, only nasty ad hominems, why
bother to reply? I've happily killfiled the silly git. No loss. Out
of sight, out of mind.
- pl -
Sounds good to me, the sooner your out of my mind and sight the better,
I enjoy talking to someone with a sense of humour, it shows their is
humanity their, and a willingness to laugh at oneself.
You on the other hand don't seem to understand what the word humour
means and without humour their is no true humanity,
You take yourself so seriously that all the rest of us little humans can
only sit back and laugh.
--
Shez
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| User: "penitent leper" |
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| Title: Re: self hatred....(Re: Was Jesus Christ a fairy tale? |
22 Nov 2003 02:10:52 PM |
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On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:46:18 -0500, "m" <m2o@memyself&eye.com> wrote:
penitent leper wrote in message ...
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 17:30:44 +0000, Shez <shez@oldcity.f2s.com>
wrote:
In article <1MEvb.10951$yM6.3288@lakeread06>, d c
<nospam@invalid.com>
writes
All of those claims have been debunked. There is no evidence
Jesus
ever existed.
You know
You're gonna find out that He's the way
No matter which way you choose
But i pray you
Find out by His love for you
(Keith Green)
Grow up, were not children to be frightened by the bogey man in
heaven.
Grow up, we are not children to be frightened by the Bogey Man
Of
Skeptic Land (TM).
Most of us have a better understanding
Not you, for sure.
and have done far more research
None of which you display.
on your religion than any of you Christians have,
What Christians? I, for instance, belong to no religion, and
it's
clear to me that JC existed.
And your Christian readers are expected to take it on faith
alone
that you know more than they do?
and we have found it
wanting, to say the least,
Is "it" wanting, or is your education lacking and your
research
inept?
You believe your fairy tales,
You believe in your skeptitard fairy tales,
leave the real thinking to the adults.
leave the real thinking to informed intellects.
It's always hilarious to read "skeptical
reductionist/rationalists" who accuse non-atheists of
immaturity, when
in fact, it's so frequently the skeptos who are stuck in the
adolescent phase of mental development - complete with attitudes
of
teenage rebellion.
he is none better than the 'christians' which he is driven to
despise... attempting to force his own delusions onto others...
hiding behind thinly particulated 'research'.
'self hatred' appears to be his curse...
It could be self-hatred. Or maybe he was wounded or thinks he was
wounded by non-theists and he's carrying a grudge. Or maybe it's just
that his education isn't state-of-the-art.
- pl -
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Was Jesus Christ a fairy tale? |
23 Nov 2003 04:44:03 PM |
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On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 03:04:14 -0500, "d c" <nospam@invalid.com> posted
in alt.atheism:
You know
You're gonna find out that He's the way
No matter which way you choose
But i pray you
We'll think for you.
--
"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid
consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and
ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who
works on the basis of reward and punishment. "
- Letter to M. Berkowitz, October 25, 1950; Einstein Archive 59-215
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
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| User: "Jos Flachs" |
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| Title: Re: Was Jesus Christ a fairy tale? |
22 Nov 2003 10:31:35 PM |
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On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 03:04:14 -0500, "d c" <nospam@invalid.com> wrote:
All of those claims have been debunked. There is no evidence Jesus
ever existed.
You know
You're gonna find out that He's the way
No matter which way you choose
But i pray you
Find out by His love for you
(Keith Green)
How moving...
What superiour poetry...
On par with the bible...
WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
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| User: "m" |
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| Title: Re: Was Jesus Christ a fairy tale? |
22 Nov 2003 08:57:05 AM |
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Al Klein wrote in message ...
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:23:46 -0500, "m" <m2o@memyself&eye.com>
posted
in alt.atheism:
Mr. Max P. Diddy wrote in message ...
All of those claims have been debunked. There is no evidence
Jesus
ever existed.
hmmm....
if you truly believed this
Until someone presents objective evidence that Jesus DID exist,
all
rational people will "believe this".
Excerpt from a Letter from Pontius Pilate to his friend Seneca
concerning the trial and execution of Jesus:
Jerusalem
'I must complete the letter which I began this morning.
Immediately after
despatching Krito, I confirmed with Marcius the military
arrangements for the
Passover, which begins tomorrow. I heard reports from Joseph, who
thinks that
acts of violence against individuals amongst the ruling Sadducees
will grow.
In his opinion it does not much matter whether the province is as
quiet as I
contrive to keep it or whether there is constant friction between
us and the
Jews; his feeling is that the extreme men are tired of peace.
Afterwards I
tried and condemned the prisoner Jesus. He was crucified at once
along with
some other prisoners who were awaiting execution. It is not a bad
thing to
have an object lesson of this kind on the eve of the Passover
because, in such
a nondescript gathering as we have here, there must always be
dangerous
characters who have exceptional opportunities for their special
qualities. By
this time Jesus is buried. It is their custom to bury an executed
offender the
same day and, besides, the Sabbath begins at sunset - has,
indeed, already
begun. The Sanhedrim asked permission to bury the body this
afternoon. It
suits them, having got Jesus out of their way, to dispose of the
whole matter
before the Passover begins and so to damp down any discussion
which might
arise, especially after the inscription that I ordered to be
attached to the
prisoner, about which more presently. '
the question is not wether Jesus existed but wether or not was he
the messiah...
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