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User:	"Iainpenis angled at 100 degrees"
Date:	02 Feb 2005 10:11:06 AM
Object:	Re: What exactly is it that evolutionists object to in creationisim?

Pyroclastic wrote:

view, an emphisis on christian

WHY I OBJECT TO BIBLICAL CREATIONISM: It is malinspired, incorrect, and
useless.
1. It is MALINSPIRED, because the theory of evolution is correct:
a. It is a proven fact than life adapts to it's environment over
numerous generations.
b: Even without ANY fossil record, it is a hypothetical fact that
complex life can be forged naturally by environmental pressures of
millions of generations of an population of molecular replicators, and
that is it quite probable.
c: With point B in mind, the fossil record can be traced and compared
to environmental dynamics throughout the Earth's history -- and has,
very thoroughly.
2. It is INCORRECT: The Earth is not 6000 years old, this is quite
clear. Mankind's ancestors are not a single couple of Homo Sapiens
called Adam and Eve, because the number of generations doesn't match
migration patterns at all. The sky is not a former part of the sea,
although to a guesser, it might look like it(they meet in the horizon),
implying that biblical creationism is an elaborate wild guess evolved
from earlier creation myths, refined over centuries into folklore, and
finally, literature.
3. It is USELESS: Much has been gained from our knowledge of evolution
and in fact, it is actually so proven that if you chose to ignore it,
much of what we know about biology would become inexplicable once
more(even by creationism). "You can't take the benefits of science -
medicine, technology, chemistry, etc. - then deny results the same
methodology leads to, like evolution. It's a package deal." -- Bob
Dog.
~Iain
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User: "Bob"
Title: Re: What exactly is it that evolutionists object to in creationisim?	05 Feb 2005 06:10:25 AM

On 4 Feb 2005 23:54:43 -0800,

wrote:

First off, you need to distinguish between Microevolution (adaptation
caused by Natural Selection), and Macroevolution (new species).
Microevolution is something that can be observed, and there is nowhere
in the Bible that says that this doesn't happen, it is completely
compatible with the creation account in Genesis. Macroevolution on the
other hand cannot be proven.

WHY, oh WHY do creationists keeping dispensing this swill. SPECIATION
HAS BEEN OBSERVED! they pretend that, if they say it often enough,
species will un-evolve and go away. the world seldom works that wat.
There is no way to PROVE this. You do not

understand the Scientific Method if you believe that MACROEVOLUTION can
be proven. I am currently studying Anthropology, and the first thing
that my Anthropology Professor said is that in order to prove something
scientifically you MUST be able to REPRODUCE IT.

an observation is exactly that. it is useless to pretend something
does not happen when it's SEEN.

The reasons that I say your arguments are not well laid out is because
each one of them rests on a logical falicy. Point 1 assumes that
Evolution is correct without any evidence to back it up. This is called
Apealing to False authority.

evolution is done in the lab. it's reproducible.
The Authority here is the THEORY of

Evolution. (BTW, the Fosil Record is far from complete).

every transitional fossil discovered, so creationists think, creates 2
more gaps...
you're recycling tired, hoary creationist argument.
Point 2 again

makes points with no backing. Show me one shred of evidence that the
Bible is a wild guess at explaining the creation of the world.

you mean other than it appeals to authority? 'god said it, so it must
be so'?
You say

it evolved from earlier myths, show me the myths (if you do your
homework, you will find that the Genesis account is quite different
from anything else you will find). Point 3 is simply a bad point. Just
because it doesn't serve a purpose that you can see doesn't mean it is
useless. Like I said, the Genesis account is not intended to cure
disease, bring about world peace, or any of the other things you claim
we can credit to evolution.

ROFLMAO!! no one claims anything for evolution other than the origin
of species.
It is there to recount the process in which

God created the earth. The Bible has given more people purpose in life
than Evolution ever could. If you ask me, evolution is worthless... if
you're ok being a random mutation with no purpose in life the so beit.
I'm sorry that you don't value yourself over a protazoa.

rarely has such little value been demostrated in a single post. true
creationist propaganda.
hope you're not planning on becoming an anthropologist.
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User: "Ernest Major"
Title: Re: What exactly is it that evolutionists object to in creationisim?	05 Feb 2005 07:44:18 AM

In article <4204b6a6.31001270@usenet.ptd.net>, Bob <wf3h@ptd.net> writes

I'd wish that the creationists that deny speciation and the creationists
who insist that of course creationists accept speciation would get
together and argue out a common position.
--
alias Ernest Major
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User: "Dubh Ghall"
Title: Re: What exactly is it that evolutionists object to in creationisim?	05 Feb 2005 01:15:35 PM

On 4 Feb 2005 23:54:43 -0800,

wrote:

I am currently studying Anthropology, and the first thing
that my Anthropology Professor said is that in order to prove something
scientifically you MUST be able to REPRODUCE IT.

This is the sort of garbage you are taught, in creationist collages.
--
Puck Greenman
The spelling Like any opinion stated here
purely my own
#162 BAAWA Knight.
Plonked by Rob Duncan

January 27th
Na bister 500,000
.

User: "wcb"
Title: Re: What exactly is it that evolutionists object to in creationisim?	05 Feb 2005 11:24:09 PM

Dubh Ghall wrote:

On 4 Feb 2005 23:54:43 -0800,

wrote:

I am currently studying Anthropology, and the first thing
that my Anthropology Professor said is that in order to prove something
scientifically you MUST be able to REPRODUCE IT.

This is the sort of garbage you are taught, in creationist colleges.

Its proved everyday by working scientists.
The problem is, the creationists won't look at the proof, the hard
evidence. Many of them are simply too stupid to deal with it anyway.
Cheerful Charlie
.

User: ""
Title: Re: What exactly is it that evolutionists object to in creationisim?	05 Feb 2005 01:55:42 AM

Oh yeah, I'm curious as to how many of you have actually studied the
Bible beyond a surface level? If you haven't studied it in at least a
college level course, then you haven't studied the Bible as much as I
have studied Evolution, and probably shouldn't be making claims about
something you have no real knowledge of.
.

User: "Deadrat"
Title: Re: What exactly is it that evolutionists object to in creationisim?	05 Feb 2005 03:32:48 AM

<T.Arsenal@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1107590142.615974.96030@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...

I'm curious, too. How is your Aramaic?
Deadrat
.

User: "John Wilkins"
Title: Re: What exactly is it that evolutionists object to in creationisim?	05 Feb 2005 04:28:27 AM

Deadrat <none@none.non> wrote:

<T.Arsenal@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1107590142.615974.96030@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...

I'm curious, too. How is your Aramaic?

Deadrat

Even his Koine? Or his Hebrew? Does he understand the Documentary
Hypothesis? Can he isolate DeuteroIsaiah from Isaiah? Does he understand
the importance of Q? Does he know the importance of Hittite treaty
language in Genesis? And so many more questions.
Of course I only did NT and OT at first year level...
--
John S. Wilkins

AA#2207
web: www.wilkins.id.au blog: evolvethought.blogspot.com
Fiat lunch!
.

User: "Stanley Friesen"
Title: Re: What exactly is it that evolutionists object to in creationisim?	05 Feb 2005 11:19:39 AM

(John Wilkins) wrote:

Deadrat <none@none.non> wrote:

<T.Arsenal@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1107590142.615974.96030@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...

I'm curious, too. How is your Aramaic?

Deadrat

Hmm, that last one is a new one to me.
[And I would probably have to look up the boundary between DeuteroIsaiah
and Isaiah].
--
The peace of God be with you.
Stanley Friesen
.

User: "Michael Siemon"
Title: Re: What exactly is it that evolutionists object to in creationisim?	05 Feb 2005 11:48:40 AM

In article <8uv901tjrmrhvm4cfd5qpisf449d0m7i19@4ax.com>,
Stanley Friesen <sarima@friesen.net> wrote:

johnSPAM@wilkins.id.au (John Wilkins) wrote:

Deadrat <none@none.non> wrote:

<T.Arsenal@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1107590142.615974.96030@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...

I'm curious, too. How is your Aramaic?

Deadrat

Hmm, that last one is a new one to me.

[And I would probably have to look up the boundary between DeuteroIsaiah
and Isaiah].

Look up "von Rad". Think "covenant".
.

User: "Stanley Friesen"
Title: Re: What exactly is it that evolutionists object to in creationisim?	05 Feb 2005 10:19:36 PM

Michael Siemon <mlsiemon@sonic.net> wrote:

In article <8uv901tjrmrhvm4cfd5qpisf449d0m7i19@4ax.com>,
Stanley Friesen <sarima@friesen.net> wrote:

johnSPAM@wilkins.id.au (John Wilkins) wrote:

Deadrat <none@none.non> wrote:

<T.Arsenal@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1107590142.615974.96030@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...

I'm curious, too. How is your Aramaic?

Deadrat

Hmm, that last one is a new one to me.

[And I would probably have to look up the boundary between DeuteroIsaiah
and Isaiah].

Look up "von Rad". Think "covenant".

Ah, covenant. Of course.
--
The peace of God be with you.
Stanley Friesen
.

User: "Mark Isaak"
Title: Re: What exactly is it that evolutionists object to in creationisim?	05 Feb 2005 02:19:08 PM

On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 09:19:39 -0800, Stanley Friesen
<sarima@friesen.net> wrote:

johnSPAM@wilkins.id.au (John Wilkins) wrote:

Deadrat <none@none.non> wrote:

<T.Arsenal@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1107590142.615974.96030@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...

I'm curious, too. How is your Aramaic?

Deadrat

Hmm, that last one is a new one to me.

Well, I can answer one of them. Q is important because he keeps
getting bored and leaving the Q continuum to harass the crew of the
Enterprise.
--
Mark Isaak eciton (at) earthlink (dot) net
"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of
the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are
being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and
exposing the country to danger." -- Hermann Goering
.

User: "John Wilkins"
Title: Re: What exactly is it that evolutionists object to in creationisim?	05 Feb 2005 05:48:24 PM

Stanley Friesen <sarima@friesen.net> wrote:

johnSPAM@wilkins.id.au (John Wilkins) wrote:

Deadrat <none@none.non> wrote:

<T.Arsenal@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1107590142.615974.96030@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...

I'm curious, too. How is your Aramaic?

Deadrat

Hmm, that last one is a new one to me.

Gerhard von Rad. Probably been overturned in the last 30 years.

[And I would probably have to look up the boundary between DeuteroIsaiah
and Isaiah].

Me too. Perhaps I should have said "knows about DeuteroIsaiah"...
--
John S. Wilkins

AA#2207
web: www.wilkins.id.au blog: evolvethought.blogspot.com
Fiat lunch!
.

User: "Stanley Friesen"
Title: Re: What exactly is it that evolutionists object to in creationisim?	05 Feb 2005 11:16:58 AM

wrote:

Oh yeah, I'm curious as to how many of you have actually studied the
Bible beyond a surface level?

Me. I have read large parts of it, as well as many commentaries, and
regularly attend bible studies and worship services. I have also know a
small amount of biblical Hebrew and Koine Greek, and have looked at some
short passages in the original languages.

If you haven't studied it in at least a
college level course, then you haven't studied the Bible as much as I
have studied Evolution, and probably shouldn't be making claims about
something you have no real knowledge of.

Hmm, well, I have a *degree* in evolutionary biology. And pretty much
everything you say about evolution is patently *incorrect*. I know
rather more about the Bible than you do about evolution.
--
The peace of God be with you.
Stanley Friesen
.

User: "Bob"
Title: Re: What exactly is it that evolutionists object to in creationisim?	05 Feb 2005 11:37:00 AM

On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 09:16:58 -0800, Stanley Friesen
<sarima@friesen.net> wrote:

T.Arsenal@gmail.com wrote:

Oh yeah, I'm curious as to how many of you have actually studied the
Bible beyond a surface level?

i'm always amazed at the arrogance of creationists who assume that
scientists have never read the bible. of course, if someone DOES read
the bible, believes it, but doesn't interpret it THEIR way (read
'other christians'), then they're atheists.
nice circular argument

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User: "wcb"
Title: Re: What exactly is it that evolutionists object to in creationisim?	05 Feb 2005 07:45:39 PM

Bob wrote:

On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 09:16:58 -0800, Stanley Friesen
<sarima@friesen.net> wrote:

T.Arsenal@gmail.com wrote:

Oh yeah, I'm curious as to how many of you have actually studied the
Bible beyond a surface level?

When I were a lad, and I took historical geology in college,
we started with the biblical creation and were taken along
the course of early geologists, Hutton et al, how they discovered
the vast age of the earth, and how the bible was debunked
as not having much to do with with science.
We were told about people like Ussher who 'proved'
that creation happened in 4004 BCE, October 9th, on a
Saturday and the two accopunts of creation in Genesis.
Basically, most scientists early on, have to come to grips
with the fact that science didn't just drop from the skies and that
in the early 1800's science started from scratch and rapidly
displace the bible as an authority for very sound reasons.
Few scientists don't know the basic history oftheir own fields
of study. Its hard not to learn that when learning the basics.
Most scientists are very well aware of the bible in pre-scientific
ages which historically speaking, wasn't that long ago.
If any bible goons think scientists know nothing
of the bible, they are very,very much mistaken.
--
Cheerful Charlie
.

User: "Rump Ranger"
Title: Re: What exactly is it that evolutionists object to in creationisim?	05 Feb 2005 01:28:28 PM

wrote:

I did read the whole thing at least twice. Once as a kid (because my
father, who gave up Christianity, said I should read it to know what
the book's about to make up my own mind) and another time while in OSUT
in the US Army (because outside of the Soldier's Handbook and letters
from home, the Bible was the only book we were allowed to read in the
little spare time we got. I went to church on Sundays during those 15
weeks, but like most guys, we did it to get away from it all for a
couple hours on Sunday and because the Pentacostal churches had cookies
and gospel music which was a nice break from cadences). As for
"studying it", there's no need. It's not a science book nor does it
look like a book for God to be the "omnibenevolent" being that thumpers
purport him to be. Number 31 proves quite clearly that if the Biblical
God does exist, he's a vile *****.
.

User: "Budikka666"
Title: Re: What exactly is it that evolutionists object to in creationisim?	06 Feb 2005 07:11:49 AM

wrote:

Your do not show any evidence whatsoever of having studied evolution,
first of all.
Secondly, are you saying that college professors are better at
revealing the Bible than your god is? That's quite a statement to
make. I'd be interested in seeing you back it up with some logic.
Budikka
.

User: "Don Kresch"
Title: Re: What exactly is it that evolutionists object to in creationisim?	05 Feb 2005 09:38:25 AM

In alt.atheism on 4 Feb 2005 23:55:42 -0800,

let
us all know that:

IOW: you're just trying to deflect the problems.
Don
---
aa #51, Knight of BAAWA, DNRC o-, Member of the [H]orde
Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
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Picard to Data/Graves "The Schizoid Man"
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User: "Ernest Major"
Title: Re: What exactly is it that evolutionists object to in creationisim?	05 Feb 2005 03:10:50 AM

In article <1107590142.615974.96030@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
T.Arsenal@gmail.com writes

How did you manage to take a college level course in evolution and be
unaware the speciation has been observed?
--
alias Ernest Major
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User: "Al Klein"
Title: Re: What exactly is it that evolutionists object to in creationisim?	05 Feb 2005 01:42:53 PM

On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 09:10:50 +0000, Ernest Major
<{$to$}@meden.demon.co.uk> said in alt.atheism:

How did you manage to take a college level course in evolution and be
unaware the speciation has been observed?

Think "Bible College course in 'Evolution'".
--
"I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is
a childlike one. You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the
crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due
to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious
indoctrination received in youth. I prefer an attitude of humility
corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of
nature and of our own being."
- Albert Einstein to Guy H. Raner Jr., Sept. 28, 1949, from article by
Michael R. Gilmore in Skeptic magazine, Vol. 5, No. 2, 1997
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User: "Al Klein"
Title: Re: What exactly is it that evolutionists object to in creationisim?	05 Feb 2005 01:41:42 PM

On 4 Feb 2005 23:55:42 -0800,

said in alt.atheism:

Oh yeah, I'm curious as to how many of you have actually studied the
Bible beyond a surface level?

Probably most of us have studied more bibles, more times and at deeper
levels, than you have.

The bible is a piece of literature. It can be studied as any other
piece of literature. Any claims to the contrary are special pleading.
--
"I can't activate two neurons simultaneously, and I vote"
- The theistic majority
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rukbat at verizon dot net
.

User: "Bob"
Title: Re: What exactly is it that evolutionists object to in creationisim?	05 Feb 2005 06:11:57 AM

On 4 Feb 2005 23:55:42 -0800,

wrote:

Oh yeah, I'm curious as to how many of you have actually studied the
Bible beyond a surface level?

<waving hand wildly> OOH! OOH!! OOH! I HAVE, I HAVE!!!
If you haven't studied it in at least a

college level course, then you haven't studied the Bible as much as I
have studied Evolution, and probably shouldn't be making claims about
something you have no real knowledge of.

gee...millions of xtians study the bible with no formal training at
all. and if you're a creationist you know zip about science.
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User: "Deadrat"
Title: Re: What exactly is it that evolutionists object to in creationisim?	05 Feb 2005 12:05:30 PM

"Bob" <wf3h@ptd.net> wrote in message
news:4204b7cd.31296688@usenet.ptd.net...

On 4 Feb 2005 23:55:42 -0800,

wrote:

Oh yeah, I'm curious as to how many of you have actually studied the
Bible beyond a surface level?

<waving hand wildly> OOH! OOH!! OOH! I HAVE, I HAVE!!!

*sigh* Must we always see the same hands? Some of you are unprepared.
Again.
And you know whom I'm talking about.
And I understand that some of you have brought a theory of creation. Did
you bring
enough to share with everybody?
Oh, by the way. If I catch the person who wrote "Evolution is wrong because
Darwin
was a dootyhead"
Deadrat
.

User: "Richard Forrest"
Title: Re: What exactly is it that evolutionists object to in creationisim?	05 Feb 2005 12:21:26 PM

You want to congratulate the creationist who wrote it because it is the
best argument against evolution they have yet managed to muster?
RF
.

User: "Jos Flachs"
Title: Re: What exactly is it that evolutionists object to in creationisim?	05 Feb 2005 06:01:32 PM

On 4 Feb 2005 23:55:42 -0800,

wrote:

Had you studied evolution (no need for capitals here) you wouldn't
need to make a fool of yourself in public.
.

User: "Mike Dunford"
Title: Re: What exactly is it that evolutionists object to in creationisim?	05 Feb 2005 02:29:11 AM

On 4 Feb 2005 23:55:42 -0800,

wrote:

There are at least a few people in talk.origins that I know for a fact
have at least some formal background in theology. Speaking personally,
I have taken a number of courses in theology and scripture at the
college level. In fact, it's entirely possible that I have studied
both the Bible and Evolution more than you have. But that really
doesn't mean much. After all, as far as I can tell, the fact that you
claim to have taken a college level course in evolution doesn't appear
to have prevented you from making claims about something that you have
no real knowledge of.
--Mike Dunford
.

User: "Mark Isaak"
Title: Re: What exactly is it that evolutionists object to in creationisim?	05 Feb 2005 02:32:49 PM

On 4 Feb 2005 23:55:42 -0800,

wrote:

Well, I have read the entire Bible. Also the Apocrypha, Koran, Enuma
Elish, Gilgamesh epic, Egyptian Book of the Dead, Zend Avesta,
Kalevala, Prose Edda, Mabinogi, Iliad, Odyssey, Hesiod's Theogeny,
Shah Nama, Rig Veda, Mahabharata, Ramayana, various Upanishads,
Kojiki, Kumulipau, Popol Vuh, Huarochiri Manuscript, Mwindo Epic, and
creation myths from at least a hundred additional cultures. So I
consider myself qualified to discuss creationism. Are you qualified?
--
Mark Isaak eciton (at) earthlink (dot) net
"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of
the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are
being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and
exposing the country to danger." -- Hermann Goering
.

User: "Hiero5ant"
Title: Re: What exactly is it that evolutionists object to in creationisim?	05 Feb 2005 06:54:10 PM

"Mark Isaak" <eciton@earthlinkNOSPAM.next> wrote in message
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On 4 Feb 2005 23:55:42 -0800,

wrote:

"Well, I attended Julliard, I'm a graduate of the Harvard Business School,
I travel quite extensively, I lived through the Black Plague and I had a
pretty good time during that, I've seen The Exorcist 167 times and it keeps
gettin funnier every single time I see it, not to mention the fact that
you're talking to a dead guy!!! Now whatta you think? Do you think I'm
qualified?"

.

User: ""
Title: Re: What exactly is it that evolutionists object to in creationisim?	06 Feb 2005 04:20:03 AM

Hiero5ant wrote:

"Mark Isaak" <eciton@earthlinkNOSPAM.next> wrote in message
news:suaa019lltl4lpgt1tg2ppdcfdtom4me47@4ax.com...

On 4 Feb 2005 23:55:42 -0800,

wrote:

Oh yeah, I'm curious as to how many of you have actually studied

the

Bible beyond a surface level? If you haven't studied it in at least

college level course, then you haven't studied the Bible as much as

have studied Evolution, and probably shouldn't be making claims

about

something you have no real knowledge of.

Well, I have read the entire Bible. Also the Apocrypha, Koran,

Enuma

Elish, Gilgamesh epic, Egyptian Book of the Dead, Zend Avesta,
Kalevala, Prose Edda, Mabinogi, Iliad, Odyssey, Hesiod's Theogeny,
Shah Nama, Rig Veda, Mahabharata, Ramayana, various Upanishads,
Kojiki, Kumulipau, Popol Vuh, Huarochiri Manuscript, Mwindo Epic,

and

creation myths from at least a hundred additional cultures. So I
consider myself qualified to discuss creationism. Are you

qualified?

"Well, I attended Julliard, I'm a graduate of the Harvard Business

School,

I travel quite extensively, I lived through the Black Plague and I

had a

pretty good time during that, I've seen The Exorcist 167 times and it

keeps

gettin funnier every single time I see it, not to mention the fact

that

you're talking to a dead guy!!! Now whatta you think? Do you think

I'm

qualified?"

Not as much as *I* am! I was born about 10,000 years ago, and there
ain't nothing in this world that I don't know. I saw Peter, Paul and
Moses playing ring-around-the-roses, and I can whup the guy who says it
isn't so.
.

User: "John Wilkins"
Title: Re: What exactly is it that evolutionists object to in creationisim?	06 Feb 2005 05:56:00 AM

<cubist@aol.com> wrote:

Hiero5ant wrote:

"Mark Isaak" <eciton@earthlinkNOSPAM.next> wrote in message
news:suaa019lltl4lpgt1tg2ppdcfdtom4me47@4ax.com...

On 4 Feb 2005 23:55:42 -0800,

wrote:

Oh yeah, I'm curious as to how many of you have actually studied

the

Bible beyond a surface level? If you haven't studied it in at least

college level course, then you haven't studied the Bible as much as

have studied Evolution, and probably shouldn't be making claims

about

something you have no real knowledge of.

Well, I have read the entire Bible. Also the Apocrypha, Koran,

Enuma

and

creation myths from at least a hundred additional cultures. So I
consider myself qualified to discuss creationism. Are you

qualified?

"Well, I attended Julliard, I'm a graduate of the Harvard Business

School,

I travel quite extensively, I lived through the Black Plague and I

had a

pretty good time during that, I've seen The Exorcist 167 times and it

keeps

gettin funnier every single time I see it, not to mention the fact

that

you're talking to a dead guy!!! Now whatta you think? Do you think

I'm

qualified?"

You're not a Tom Waits fan, by any chance?
--
John S. Wilkins

AA#2207
web: www.wilkins.id.au blog: evolvethought.blogspot.com
Fiat lunch!
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1. CAN YOU FIND A MORE EXCELLENT OBJECT FOR YOUR LOVE THAN JESUS? If you search through the whole creation, could you find any like him? Are riches, honors, pleasures, or other relationships comparable to Jesus, whom you ought to love supremely? Shou
George Berkeley: What allows an idea to represent a material object?
"Pledge fight to return to S.F. courtroom; Atheists object to 'under God' phrase"
Parents object to newborn tests because of religion
Object off Alaska coast may be WWII sub Family of USS Grunion commander undertake undersea investigation

Which Celestial Object is It?
Family Members Object to Rosa Parks' Will
NEWS FLASH: Pussies object to vagina!
Massachusetts Democrats Object to Stem Cell Research Ban
As shyly as Ramzi blesses, you can object the socialism much more never.
Liberalism Is A Real Mental Disorder. ==> CRIMINAL Aliens Object to Being Called ILLEGAL
OT: What is this mechancial object

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