Religions > Atheism > Re: What prevented God from just saying; " I PARDON YOU.?"
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01 Apr 2004 04:58:22 AM |
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Re: What prevented God from just saying; " I PARDON YOU.?" |
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 15:50:35 +0000, Marguerita <marguerita@hottermail.co.uk>
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They were lying.
You got proof they were lying.
Yes. It is not physically possible for a man to come back to life
after he has been dead for 3 days.
Yet that's exactly what he did. And there's your proof he was God become man..
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| User: "Marguerita" |
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02 Apr 2004 08:18:51 AM |
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On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 04:58:22 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 15:50:35 +0000, Marguerita <marguerita@hottermail.co.uk>
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They were lying.
You got proof they were lying.
Yes. It is not physically possible for a man to come back to life
after he has been dead for 3 days.
Yet that's exactly what he did. And there's your proof he was God become man..
That's not proof. That's your opinion. Proof is more than that - it
requires you to show hard evidence that he came back to life.
Unfortunately for your opinion there is more evidence that he did not.
M
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| User: "duke" |
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02 Apr 2004 03:59:16 PM |
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On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 14:18:51 +0000, Marguerita <marguerita@hottermail.co.uk>
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Yet that's exactly what he did. And there's your proof he was God become man..
That's not proof. That's your opinion. Proof is more than that - it
requires you to show hard evidence that he came back to life.
Unfortunately for your opinion there is more evidence that he did not.
Me: win hopefully / no win. Atheist: lose / no win. No win comes into play
if there is no almighty God.
Actually there is not a shred of evidence that God does not exist. And there is
overflowing evidence that he does.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: What prevented God from just saying; " I PARDON YOU.?" |
02 Apr 2004 04:53:05 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 14:18:51 +0000, Marguerita
<marguerita@hottermail.co.uk>
wrote:
Yet that's exactly what he did. And there's your proof he was God
become man..
That's not proof. That's your opinion. Proof is more than that - it
requires you to show hard evidence that he came back to life.
Unfortunately for your opinion there is more evidence that he did not.
Me: win hopefully / no win. Atheist: lose / no win. No win comes into
play
if there is no almighty God.
Actually there is not a shred of evidence that God does not exist. And
there is
overflowing evidence that he does.
duke-your stupid.
there is NO evidence of any god-period.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: What prevented God from just saying; " I PARDON YOU.?" |
03 Apr 2004 06:25:04 AM |
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On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 22:53:05 GMT, "NUNIA@BUSSINESS.NET" <yea@right.net> wrote:
Actually there is not a shred of evidence that God does not exist. And
there is overflowing evidence that he does.
duke-your stupid.
there is NO evidence of any god-period.
Let's see your evidence for "no God".
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: What prevented God from just saying; " I PARDON YOU.?" |
03 Apr 2004 10:49:40 AM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 22:53:05 GMT, "NUNIA@BUSSINESS.NET" <yea@right.net>
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Actually there is not a shred of evidence that God does not exist. And
there is overflowing evidence that he does.
duke-your stupid.
there is NO evidence of any god-period.
Let's see your evidence for "no God".
your making the claim-you prove it-but you cant.
so there you go.
the bible is full of contradictions.
so there is proof as well.
your a caveman.
grow up.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: What prevented God from just saying; " I PARDON YOU.?" |
03 Apr 2004 12:16:03 PM |
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On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 16:49:40 GMT, "NUNIA@BUSSINESS.NET" <yea@right.net> wrote:
Let's see your evidence for "no God".
your making the claim-you prove it-but you cant.
so there you go.
the bible is full of contradictions.
so there is proof as well.
your a caveman.
grow up.
sorry nun, but you have fizzled out.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: What prevented God from just saying; " I PARDON YOU.?" |
03 Apr 2004 06:57:31 AM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
news:37bt60dsatdrnoquneo0n5anlsr0dd0i6r@4ax.com:
On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 22:53:05 GMT, "NUNIA@BUSSINESS.NET"
<yea@right.net> wrote:
Actually there is not a shred of evidence that God does not exist.
And
there is overflowing evidence that he does.
duke-your stupid.
there is NO evidence of any god-period.
Let's see your evidence for "no God".
The Bible is sufficient evidence that God doesn't exist.
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Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: What prevented God from just saying; " I PARDON YOU.?" |
03 Apr 2004 09:16:08 AM |
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On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 12:57:31 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
duke-your stupid.
there is NO evidence of any god-period.
Let's see your evidence for "no God".
The Bible is sufficient evidence that God doesn't exist.
So you have nothing for your beliefs.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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03 Apr 2004 10:30:55 AM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
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On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 12:57:31 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
duke-your stupid.
there is NO evidence of any god-period.
Let's see your evidence for "no God".
The Bible is sufficient evidence that God doesn't exist.
So you have nothing for your beliefs.
There's nothing to believe.
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Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: What prevented God from just saying; " I PARDON YOU.?" |
03 Apr 2004 12:15:15 PM |
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On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 16:30:55 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
news:l8lt60poumjd446ksiimpqmu6r90ipf998@4ax.com:
On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 12:57:31 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
duke-your stupid.
there is NO evidence of any god-period.
Let's see your evidence for "no God".
The Bible is sufficient evidence that God doesn't exist.
So you have nothing for your beliefs.
There's nothing to believe.
Well, it's your eternal future that you are throwing up for grabs, not mine.
I believe.
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| User: "Ash" |
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| Title: Re: What prevented God from just saying; " I PARDON YOU.?" |
03 Apr 2004 03:55:25 PM |
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duke wrote:
Well, it's your eternal future that you are throwing up for grabs, not mine.
As there is no such thing as an eternal future, it isn't anyone's
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Not BAAWA
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: What prevented God from just saying; " I PARDON YOU.?" |
04 Apr 2004 09:01:23 AM |
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On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 22:55:25 +0100, Ash <Ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk>
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Well, it's your eternal future that you are throwing up for grabs, not mine.
As there is no such thing as an eternal future, it isn't anyone's
God says you're wrong.
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| User: "Don calldonREMOVE IT @something.net" |
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| Title: Re: What prevented God from just saying; " I PARDON YOU.?" |
05 Apr 2004 04:17:34 AM |
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On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 09:01:23 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 22:55:25 +0100, Ash <Ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk>
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Well, it's your eternal future that you are throwing up for grabs, not mine.
As there is no such thing as an eternal future, it isn't anyone's
God says you're wrong.
Which God? The one you can't define?
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: What prevented God from just saying; " I PARDON YOU.?" |
05 Apr 2004 05:58:59 AM |
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On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 04:17:34 -0500, Don < calldonREMOVE IT
@something.net> wrote:
On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 09:01:23 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 22:55:25 +0100, Ash <Ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:
Well, it's your eternal future that you are throwing up for grabs, not mine.
As there is no such thing as an eternal future, it isn't anyone's
God says you're wrong.
Which God? The one you can't define?
There is only one supreme being, d.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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04 Apr 2004 09:37:09 AM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
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On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 22:55:25 +0100, Ash
<Ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
Well, it's your eternal future that you are throwing up for grabs,
not mine.
As there is no such thing as an eternal future, it isn't anyone's
God says you're wrong.
No, that's duke talking, not God.
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Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: What prevented God from just saying; " I PARDON YOU.?" |
04 Apr 2004 01:52:19 PM |
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On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 14:37:09 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
As there is no such thing as an eternal future, it isn't anyone's
God says you're wrong.
No, that's duke talking, not God.
Well, you and I are betting our eternal future on our being right. I elated
with my decision.
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| User: "Don calldonREMOVE IT @something.net" |
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05 Apr 2004 04:18:25 AM |
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On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 13:52:19 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 14:37:09 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
As there is no such thing as an eternal future, it isn't anyone's
God says you're wrong.
No, that's duke talking, not God.
Well, you and I are betting our eternal future on our being right. I elated
with my decision.
That's easy to say when you have created God in your own image.
D*
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| User: "Skepticus" |
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04 Apr 2004 10:45:08 AM |
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duke wrote:
On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 22:55:25 +0100, Ash <Ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:
Well, it's your eternal future that you are throwing up for grabs, not mine.
As there is no such thing as an eternal future, it isn't anyone's
God says you're wrong.
There is no God, and cannot possibly be, due to the fatal problem with
the very idea of God pointed out by Bertrand Russell:
"The argument that there must be a first cause is one that cannot have
any validity. If anything must have a cause, then God must have a cause.
If there can be anything without a cause, it may just as well be the
world [universe, everything that exists] as God." -- Lord Bertrand
Russell (1872 - 1970)
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| User: "Gomez Addams" |
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04 Apr 2004 12:38:57 PM |
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"Skepticus" <skep@theatheism.web> wrote
There is no God, and cannot possibly be, due to the fatal problem with
the very idea of God pointed out by Bertrand Russell:
Thank you for letting us know that the Divine Name is "Bertrand
Russell". We will all scratch out "God" in our Bibles and write in "Bertrand
Russell". The service you have rendered mankind is immense!
<plonk>
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Gomez Addams
"No one has ever changed their mind in the history of Usenet."
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| User: "Don calldonREMOVE IT @something.net" |
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05 Apr 2004 04:22:09 AM |
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On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 17:38:57 GMT, "Gomez Addams"
<Gomez&Morticia@Thing.con> wrote:
"Skepticus" <skep@theatheism.web> wrote
There is no God, and cannot possibly be, due to the fatal problem with
the very idea of God pointed out by Bertrand Russell:
Thank you for letting us know that the Divine Name is "Bertrand
Russell". We will all scratch out "God" in our Bibles and write in "Bertrand
Russell". The service you have rendered mankind is immense!
<plonk>
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Gomez Addams
"No one has ever changed their mind in the history of Usenet."
I don't see anything in the above quote that could possibly imply that
Bertrand Russell is replacing God. Why the attack? Why not read
Russell's quote and try to understand it? I don't think you do yet.
D*
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| User: "Optional" |
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04 Apr 2004 10:52:24 AM |
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On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 15:45:08 GMT, Skepticus <skep@theatheism.web>
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duke wrote:
On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 22:55:25 +0100, Ash <Ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:
Well, it's your eternal future that you are throwing up for grabs, not mine.
As there is no such thing as an eternal future, it isn't anyone's
God says you're wrong.
There is no God, and cannot possibly be, due to the fatal problem with
the very idea of God pointed out by Bertrand Russell:
< SLAP>
God gave all men the opportunity to repent. When they didn't, they got
a
< SLAP>
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| User: "L.S.L" |
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04 Apr 2004 12:59:33 PM |
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On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 17:40:08 GMT, "Gomez Addams"
<Gomez&Morticia@Thing.con> wrote:
"Optional" <optional@optional.com> wrote
God gave all men the opportunity to repent. When they didn't, they got
a
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LOL!!! Preach on!
I shall my child, alt.atheism will soon be singing the praises of God.
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| User: "duke" |
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04 Apr 2004 01:54:22 PM |
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On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 15:45:08 GMT, Skepticus <skep@theatheism.web> wrote:
There is no God, and cannot possibly be, due to the fatal problem with
the very idea of God pointed out by Bertrand Russell:
"The argument that there must be a first cause is one that cannot have
any validity. If anything must have a cause, then God must have a cause.
If there can be anything without a cause, it may just as well be the
world [universe, everything that exists] as God." -- Lord Bertrand
Russell (1872 - 1970)
And what makes br right?
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| User: "RetroProphet" |
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02 Apr 2004 07:49:34 PM |
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Me: win hopefully / no win. Atheist: lose / no win. No win comes into play
if there is no almighty God.
What if God values a good atheist
but has no use for a odds-figuring believer?
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"To you I'm an atheist; to God,
I'm the Loyal Opposition."
-Woody Allen
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: What prevented God from just saying; " I PARDON YOU.?" |
03 Apr 2004 06:29:10 AM |
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On 2 Apr 2004 17:49:34 -0800, RetroProphet <RetroProphet_member@newsguy.com>
wrote:
Me: win hopefully / no win. Atheist: lose / no win. No win comes into play
if there is no almighty God.
What if God values a good atheist
but has no use for a odds-figuring believer?
Not his stated intent.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: What prevented God from just saying; " I PARDON YOU.?" |
03 Apr 2004 06:56:12 AM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
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On 2 Apr 2004 17:49:34 -0800, RetroProphet
<RetroProphet_member@newsguy.com> wrote:
Me: win hopefully / no win. Atheist: lose / no win. No win comes
into play if there is no almighty God.
What if God values a good atheist
but has no use for a odds-figuring believer?
Not his stated intent.
So he lied.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: What prevented God from just saying; " I PARDON YOU.?" |
03 Apr 2004 09:16:46 AM |
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On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 12:56:12 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
What if God values a good atheist
but has no use for a odds-figuring believer?
Not his stated intent.
So he lied.
Why would he do that?
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: What prevented God from just saying; " I PARDON YOU.?" |
03 Apr 2004 10:31:28 AM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
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On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 12:56:12 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
What if God values a good atheist
but has no use for a odds-figuring believer?
Not his stated intent.
So he lied.
Why would he do that?
Why would any author write something that isn't true?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: What prevented God from just saying; " I PARDON YOU.?" |
03 Apr 2004 12:16:46 PM |
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On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 16:31:28 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
news:balt60t6p3ufdvnr2pcr5fmqrfrabu4nma@4ax.com:
On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 12:56:12 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
What if God values a good atheist
but has no use for a odds-figuring believer?
Not his stated intent.
So he lied.
Why would he do that?
Why would any author write something that isn't true?
What did God write that isn't true?
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: What prevented God from just saying; " I PARDON YOU.?" |
03 Apr 2004 01:35:15 PM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
news:rrvt601opjp4qge1ta6ka9d3jmqobaor02@4ax.com:
On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 16:31:28 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
news:balt60t6p3ufdvnr2pcr5fmqrfrabu4nma@4ax.com:
On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 12:56:12 GMT, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
What if God values a good atheist
but has no use for a odds-figuring believer?
Not his stated intent.
So he lied.
Why would he do that?
Why would any author write something that isn't true?
What did God write that isn't true?
God didn't write anything.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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